Andrew L. Seidel and Dr. Jerry Coyne discuss The Founding Myth - Hemant Mehta emcees

[@mildredmartinez8843]

I am so glad Andrew is gaining recognition as a lawyer, author and activist for rhe separation of church and State. Right on Andrew.

[@doneestoner9945]

He's a cool guy.

[@d.e.t4147]

I can listen to Andrew speak on this topic all day.

[@scottplumer3668]

I missed my commuter train stop this morning because I was so engrossed in Andrew's book. It's really great! Thanks for signing it!

[@isaacmathews4693]

Wow, this is an amazing discussion about a very important topic! EVERYONE needs to know the information covered in Andrew Seidel's book. Theocracy is such a real threat to human rights and freedoms.

[@breeze787]

Thank you for doing this Andrew. You are an important voice for humanity.

[@elainejohnson6955]

Andrew Seidel is awesome!

[@danielhawkes7170]

The Founding Myth is a brilliant book with properly researched material, balanced arguments and an important work of reference.

[@richardlewin9282]

This is fascinating, mostly because it's true.

[@emmym1912]

I just received my book yesterday. I look forward to read it. One of my favorite activists , Aron Ra featured this book in a recent discussion with the author.

[@missylee3022]

I was extremely impressed that he said he'd ask Washington about slavery.

[@HiDeguild]

So disappointed that I missed this! I hope Andrew can come back to Chicago again soon.

[@LouisGedo]

Brilliant analysis by Andrew

[@lloydchristmas4547]

Go vegan atheist!

[@roxvid2]

I love this thank you!

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Claiming that America is a Christian country is a flat out lie, and unconstitutional. The First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." The First Amendment forbids Congress from favoring any particular religion. This includes Christianity.

[@godlessblessings7020]

I bought a copy already WOW what an eye opener!!!

[@doneestoner9945]

It's a wonderful book.

[@JP-JustSayin]

1:09:19 Bumper sticker quote ... "Patriotism has no religion."

[@jasoncarpp7742]

I'm reading *"The Founding Myth, Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American."* I still have a long way to go. But I'm already learning a lot.

[@gregforse2563]

Fantastic book. I'm not even American and it was totally engrossing.

[@cindywelch2108]

That was extremely educational. Seidel is a sharp cookie. If Christians care about being allowed to practice their version of Christianity, then they should care to keep church and state separate. They would rebel if Mormons became the norm and were voting/passing laws to benefit their beliefs....or Muslims. Our laws cannot reflect religion. It doesn't matter if you're an atheist, Christian, Muslim, if we don't keep it separate then all will suffer consequences. After all, leaving God out of constitution IS the original American Experiment!

[@JAZJ]

I would really like to see a discussion between Andrew L. Seidel and renown conservative podcast personality Ben Shapiro or "Christian" pseudo-historian David Barton on this topic. Shapiro on his podcast has stated America was founded on "Judeo-Christian Principles". David Barton has been known to make shit up, lie about the Founding Fathers so-called "faith". Can you put it together?

[@Onlythezander]

This was very informative! I loved it

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Regardless of any religious beliefs the Founding Fathers may have held, in no way does it impact on me, or give Congress the right to pass laws promoting or suppressing religious belief, or the absence thereof.

[@colclark107]

One cannot underestimate the influence of the insidious "Family" and Douglas Coe when one discusses christian nationalism in the US.

[@roxvid2]

“Governments are ordained by god, and yet we were established to break away from Britain...I am the lord your god, you shall have no other gods before me....and yet it would very unamerican to write a law that doesn't contradict that sentence." This is my favorite part.

[@JB-xx3vp]

Listening to this after thousands of entitled Christian nationalists just ransacked our Capitol buildings... he is spot on about so many things in this presentation. Wait... does that make him a prophet?! 🤭😅

[@jannacoyote4246]

It’s horrendously sad that this is still a problem, and actually getting worse, three years later. 💔🇺🇸💔

[@jamescampbell2521]

How much longer will we have to swear on the bible in courts or to serve in public office. Why hasn’t this practice gone away ?

[@patriklindholm7576]

I'm a police officer in southern Finland. Though our country is mostly secular, when summoned to court we're still expected to swear on a bible before the judge when giving witness testimonies or take an as pointless ceremonial oath to tell the truth. I've several times declined and invoked my right to give my word instead as a measure of my honour. When asked for justification I've argued it not serving any purpose if the goal initially is to merely invoke fear of some retribution manifested in a supernatural intervention, since it then only would apply on believers and superstitious in particular, thus justice not being uniform to everyone. It has every time been approved of and I intend to urge this as a common practice nation wide.

[@doctorshell7118]

At 12:40 you mentioned “transference”. I think you mean to say Identification with the Aggressor. Don’t we have standing on the day of prayer if our elected officials aren’t working in our best interests all day? I think our beliefs shape nearly everyone’s opinions and actions and SCOTUS is no different. RBG was probably informed by her beliefs. Excellent interview, and I love both your work. You changed my mind on lifetime appointments.

[@franstein9277]

I just subscribed. Thanks!

[@richardlewin9282]

Alternative facts and alternative realitys. The Ark encounter is a testament to how out of touch with reality these people are.

[@scienceownsimposters2142]

We had to have a spiritual awakening to discover the truth/real history.Rejoice awake brothers and sisters.

[@hrh4961]

So, Andrew Seidel isn't just eye candy. The boy has balls: those red socks rock.

[@doneestoner9945]

I love him 💜

[@LittleImpaler]

I wouldn't take "in our year of lord" seriously. It's just fancy way of saying the date.

[@jpgduff]

No. It's just an sneaky way to smuggle belief in.

[@mugglescakesniffer3943]

The Handmaid's tale helps to give fear to Christian Nationalism.

[@mikebailey519]

Crawling on the planet’s face. Some insects call the human race. Lost in time, lost in space and meaning.

[@LittleImpaler]

Is this really a discussion on why America is secular or talking about anything under the sun.

[@brigham2250]

I find it interesting that people who are here on earth for only a finite amount of time want to use that time to gain power over others (political and religious) when in the end, everyone ends up dust and bones anyway (as sad as that is to reflect upon). I have a difficult time understanding that motivation because I don't share it. As for religion and its place in the USA, the best way to ensure religious freedom is to live in a secular society. For many, that statement sounds counter-intuitive. You can practice your religion, you just can't practice it on me. It is so simple. What's the problem? By keeping it out of the public square you never have to worry about another religion competing with yours for dominance. What's not to like about that? Religion is great at scare tactics. "Christianity is under attack." No, it's not. You've overreached and we're trying to even the playing field and get you to play nice. Go to church, pray on your time at home, at church, even walking down the street (just do it quietly to yourself). I read Andrew's book and recommend it. I'm not saying that I agree with every detail (I read it a few months ago so it is not fresh in my mind to give specifics) but it is certainly highly recommended.

[@ominous-omnipresent-they]

The forefathers were a mix of theists, deists, and a couple of atheists if I'm not mistaken. Although, what truly matters is what's in the Constitution, particularly the First Amendment.

[@dwendt44]

Latest surveys show that 'christianity' in America is ~60%.

[@johnlinden7398]

When people call or refer to themselves by a certain brand of religion ( ie ; Anglican) do they really know what they seem to identify with and why and the real differences between theirs and the other brands ? These unfounded and nonsensical superstitious beliefs are such a waste of time, energy and human resources !

[@rickhebert1600]

One Nation under God... wait.. indivisible? uhh, but all the divided churches.. um revision... One Nation Divided by God, Individual With Liberty and Justice for Us.

[@LittleImpaler]

Being desist is not athestism. Desist have their own beliefs about God or gods. Their beliefs are not stuck on any established religion. An atheist is someone who believes in no god or religion. The Founders were individuals some where Christian not in Christian sense but deist sense. My father is a deist he believes there is a god or gods controlling something.

[@germansurdey6525]

it is not DESIST. it is DEIST !

[@Thewerwolf]

The goal is to make white evangelical a favored class

[@Thewerwolf]

Yes Jefferson was a coward that the best statement and I would add hypocrite

[@rasat4829]

Trump was the chosen one, he was supposed to bring manna from heaven for them

[@PqV72MT4]

Boooooo.

[@henochparks]

these guys are liars. The founding fathers got their ideas on the freedoms from Christian ministers like John Lathrop. In 1632 Lathrop preached the Separation of Church and State. It meant the government has no right interfere in the religious affairs of citizens. It meant citizens can practice their beliefs anywhere, anytime, anyplace they choose. He preached the freedom of speech, freedom of the press. Freedom of religion. Etc. It was the foundation of the Bill of Rights. It was based on the belief that men had God given rights....never truth an Atheist....never.

[@dmayer7024]

You are very ignorant.