Andrew Wilson Watches Destiny Watching Andrew's Debate w/ Comic Dave Smith

[@Thebloodynerve]

When do we get to see Destiny watching Andrew Wilson watching Destiny Watching Andrew Wilson?

[@abdc2990]

Probably very soon. He's streaming right now on yt/kick. Maybe you can catch it live. He's not doing it yet.

[@shanmank]

You can get a good look at your butcher…

[@Tacoking1]

Lol, I came here from Destiny's reddit. This video is linked there. 😅

[@aSSGoblin1488]

😂 three levels of autism

[@EdBate]

knowing destiny this is all but a guarantee he watches at least 10 mins of it

[@loganblackwood2922]

Dave did own himself. Just not in the way he would like. 😂

[@Ja_Wick4]

😂😂😂

[@johncassell3362]

In all fairness just because Dave didn't have a good answer doesn't mean Andrew had a good one either. Dave appealing to conscience as opposed to The Bible isn't a slam dunk for Andrew 😅. Maybe to Christians it is

[@sswenr567]

Perfect comment

[@deucebigalow8784]

@@johncassell3362Andrew didn’t have to make many arguments because Dave was lost in semantics…..

[@JTNugget]

@@deucebigalow8784 I'm still confused as to how the lack of self ownership is an argument for government.

[@MsEldorado]

Andrew and Destiny agreeing is my favorite hero-villain temporary team-up moment.

[@JorgeAlbertoJerez]

So true

[@ataridc]

i wish they could at least be cordial with each other. Their interactions/debates are honestly some of the best. Andrew is also a pretty funny guy.

[@jamesnite2157]

@@ataridc Are they no longer cordial? Every debate I've seen has them being pretty cordial with good debates.

[@rra41]

@@jamesnite2157nah they’re not because Destiny is butt hurt about Andrew bringing up the Lauren Southern theory about Destiny cheating on Melina with her. He says that it’s about Andrew spreading “Gossip” and so he doesn’t want to engage with Andrew anymore but I think the real reason is that the gremlin just wants an excuse to avoid Andrew because he recognizes that he’s one of the best debaters he’s ever come across and is scared shitless from being embarrassed by him again (look towards the group debates he had with Tiny in the past for confirmation on how he made Destiny look like a complete fool with regards to how people use economic history to make prediction and men being the sole appliers of force for laws and rights in society - available on Andrew’s channel)

[@charismatic9467]

They're both legitemately sociopaths so it makes sense they'd link up so well. Terrible people and debaters.

[@tedgallegos6512]

Seeing Andrew appreciating Destiny's analysis is wholesome

[@JTNugget]

God, you coomer fans are so lame.

[@TheRingKeeper]

So wholesome

[@TheRingKeeper]

@@pwrnthevrse thanks for your half whit analysis. Could care less, but thanks anyway.

[@TheRingKeeper]

Do you just wake up angry you can’t get laid…? Like chill dude lol

[@Goodpointtips]

@@pwrnthevrse wait are you a liberations

[@loganlee5875]

If Dave Smith does a reaction video to this, it will in fact tear a hole in spacetime.

[@blackhaze8233]

Boardwalk villages what the following year

[@blackhaze8233]

A boy guy gardening and name boycott

[@Franklinms]

Was going to say

[@chuckb8877]

Then if they did a live stream debate about it...full circle

[@thomas_dries]

Nah, the dimensional rift doesn’t happen until Destiny reacts to Dave Smith reacting to Andrew Wilson reacting to Destiny reacting to the Dave Smith and Andrew Wilson debate.

[@higherleveling]

Andrew and Destiny should start a Stardew Valley farm together. 🐮🐮

[@theoreticalapproach5666]

I guess Destiny will try to min/max like crazy

[@skllgrmssn]

The banter would be hilarious lol

[@AJ........]

Ya that won't happen. I don't think Destiny likes Andrew, he just hates Dave

[@higherleveling]

​@@AJ........Imagine a stardew valley team competition. 2v2v2v2 Andrew + Destiny VS. Vaush + Hasan VS. Sneako + Fuentez... too much potential content for everyone that it would be dumb to turn it down. fourth team, bonus i havent really thought it through,.. someone else suggest a duo. I think the teams dislike each other enough that they will stick w their partner

[@plaguemouse5549]

@@AJ........ Don't think that's a problem since every time I open Destiny's streams he's talking to someone he dislikes. He surrounds himself with them.

[@cornpopwasabaddude6270]

Both right and left shit on libertarians, happy to see it

[@veln74]

And Libertarians shit on the right and left like you because you're both wrong lol. What's your point. Not an argument.

[@TheRealKaveman]

It’s because big L Libertarians (party members) try to thread needles that lack holes. Libertarian thought isn’t a political ideology, but they try to make it that way. The reason Dave comes across as retarded this entire debate is because he ostensibly believes in self-ownership, but rejects that said autonomy would lead to allowing things like same-sex marriage and abortion. However, Dave purports to believe in NAP but wants the govt to stop people from being gay or getting abortions, which is in open conflict with said libertarian principles.

[@FreeMenDieFree]

The right and left who caused all our problems don't like the libertarians who understand the right and left caused them all? Hilarious.

[@seanmurphy2365]

Destiny is against Smith because he mocked his lifestyle

[@roymarshall_]

I feel like a central point revealed in this debate is that Dave Smith isn't a libertarian

[@tripplejaz]

I've been watching Destiny for about 3 years. I'm a Christian who fundamentally disagrees with Destiny, but it's like watching Sam Harris meets TLC. The consistent rhetoric, thought processes and schizo atmosphere are my reality TV. I appreciate Andrew because he IS like Destiny and equally aggressive to boot, but we would probably agree on 95% of our worldview. Also, Coomer Gremlin is a perfect nickname for Tiny.

[@NoInfoNecessary]

You sound like a loser lol

[@No_OneV]

I never imagined Dave was this shallow. He even made Andrew and Destiny to agree on something 😂

[@Rakschas666]

Destiny has criticized (mostly the left, but this applies universaly) people for not having principles but rather being attached to outcomes rather than underlying principles and epistiomology. Thats why they are so lost and hostile when sound principles produce outcomes that can be occasionaly at odds. Especially when diverging from the orthodoxy (which are entirely focused on outcomes not process) is often viciously punished.

[@aureum7479]

Both the right and left criticise libertarians It reminds me of that scene from Ted 2 when the neighbours are arguing 😂

[@ephre]

Dave Smith is only the smartest person in the room when the other person is Louis J. Gomez.

[@735337707]

​@@ephreor other comedians/influencers/celebrities in general.

[@jaredmello]

@@ephrevery true

[@coachcoopfitness]

Petition to call libertarian prattle “NAP yap”

[@pbot6593]

Signed

[@sauravbohora2728]

Signed

[@david_n_nettey]

Signed

[@denismonterodiaz476]

Signed (I’m a libertarian)

[@Unknown-qp9ur]

The main issue is most libertarians believe the NAP is self evident and not just a moral/philosophical position.

[@Koncs86]

This has to be the most meta video... 😂

[@JesusIsAlphaOmega001]

😂😂 great comment

[@titaniumheart9645]

Not until destiny reacts to this

[@Jake-sg1xr]

First Andrew defends Biden and now Destiny is defending Andrew? Wtf is happening lmao

[@Jake-sg1xr]

(I know Andrew wasn’t actually defending Biden)

[@channelBRC]

destiny isnt really defending andrew hes just being honest with his analysis. he hates both of them lol

[@off6848]

@@Jake-sg1xrwe should be defending Hunter Bidens illegal gun charges

[@friendlyghostkinda]

@@channelBRCbut Andrew is using his direct opposite to smash a person will real life norms of decency than both of them. Isn’t helping Andrew’s cause to climb that ladder. Just helping destiny and destroying future debates. Just my two cents. Enough breakdowns. It’s petty.

[@ZombieLincoln666]

Welcome to the world of nuance

[@jakecolvin3167]

Arguing with someone dumber than you is like playing chess with a pigeon. He's going to s*** all over the board. Knock over the pieces and still strut around like he won.

[@jordanwhite8718]

I think the pigeon would just be confused as to what’s going on. You can’t play chess with somebody if they don’t know what chess is.

[@JonRodGod]

Bro talked about incest for an hour. What a weirdo. Dave was just trying to have a normal people conversation.😂

[@maynardtrendle820]

​@@JonRodGodDave was absolutely pummeled. He clearly doesn't see his own failures of logic.

[@Wallyworld30]

​@@JonRodGodCope more bru. Dave is a fool.

[@JonRodGod]

@maynardtrendle820 yea being normal and not wanting to talk about incest for an hour is being pummeled.

[@n64p3]

I feel like Andrew and Destiny would get along well if Andrew didn’t hate his lifestyle so much

[@83leela]

Definitely not. Destiny is one of the most beta and lame excuse of a man.

[@Dgriffin425]

​@@83leela soooo in other words. His lifestyle?

[@83leela]

@Dgriffin425 not just his lifestyle. Destiny is literally just an person. But yes part of it is his life style.

[@plaguemouse5549]

"Destiny is literally just an person" The kind of intellectual pearls we get from Destiny haters.

[@pawed.7512]

@@plaguemouse5549 Remind me, what did Destiny get banned from Twitch again?

[@Magni87]

What a sentence to end it on. "You don't want to bite the bullet in that circumstance, cause next you'll be biting the pillow."

[@Misha0013]

i dont get it :)

[@williamfowl8670]

​Pillow biter means gay bottom, ​@@Misha0013. Means Dave is getting sodo mis ed by Andrew.

[@anubisgod23]

seeing andrew and destiny be on the same side is WILD

[@AJ........]

It's only cuz Destiny hates Dave. Dave's taken a couple shots at Destiny, so Destiny gonna try and make Dave look as bad as possible

[@Just_Cameron]

​@@AJ........It's Dave's fault for making dumb arguments

[@ZombieLincoln666]

@@AJ........I mean it’s true, he is majorly biased against Dave, his analysis was still ultimately correct.

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

@@AJ........ It's because Dave is objectively dumb and both Destiny and Andrew can recognize it as smart people.

[@LibertyPlusTV]

Why, they both don't care about your liberty lol

[@jocapi87]

Destiny broke down this debate so well it felt like he watched the video ahead of time! DAMN it was so good

[@goldbyrd3667]

As a destiny fan Andrew's shit talk is hilarious 😂

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

Andrew is a bit of a sperg and def an ass, but he's funny (and funny in a clever way) as hell.

[@Quado0s]

"destiny fan" holy shit, get canadian healthcare

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

Destiny and Andrew are probably the best representatives of the left and the right when it comes to internet debate. Both are respectable rhetorically in my opinion. I happen to agree more with Destiny, but a lot of people agree way more with Andrew. It's fine. I think it's important that the sides get competently represented before people decide what to support.

[@akurti1079]

What in particular do you agree more with Destiny about?

[@eldenringisgud6022]

​@@akurti1079That your mom is a good lay

[@akurti1079]

@@eldenringisgud6022 Something that her and your sister have in common, then

[@mroctober3583]

Yea i agree they both debate without having to be bad faith to win an argument, the Internet needs more of these type of guys

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

​@@akurti1079 I don't like to base my world-view on Christian ethics. While I like some things in my life organized kind of similarly to the Christian way, because my own ethics happen to be kinda similar in some ways, I tend to come from slightly different assumptions and ground rules, which is why I find myself in a position similar to Destiny, who basically also argues his subjective ethics, although Destiny's ultimate lifestyle is not necessarily what I would choose to go for. I don't like seing the world as being determined by a higher being, because it largely takes away the ability of one to give others credit and judge others, cause everything is ultimately kind of predetermined by the creator of each individual actor. That bothers me a lot about the Christian pow. I also care way more about my children than I would care about the overall prosperity of society. And from what I can tell, Christian doctrines usually put the prosperity of society as the primary goal, and only then as a byproduct comes the prosperity of any individual. I reject this order of priority.

[@hayvenb]

God these comments...just because Destiny or Andrew can agree on ONE thing doesnt mean either of them will start wholy defending each other on every issue.

[@carteljameson8395]

They don't have respect for each other's world views but they do have respect for each other as a debater. Debate is really the only thing they have in common.

[@novembermike512]

@@carteljameson8395 They're both intellectually tall enough that they can see the food on the table. Dave clearly needs a high chair.

[@Wallyworld30]

@@novembermike512 Dave needs to realize HE'S THE FOOD!

[@AionAndroid]

I think they've had civil convos before especially after the Milo debate

[@VA-gu1jq]

Has even one person in comments actually suggested that to be the case? You’re complaining about a non issue

[@FtmoGo]

Coomer Gremlin is wild 😂

[@Archonus]

It's the most accurate description of anything I've ever heard.

[@chasep9440]

He literally is a gremlin though its hilarious

[@carteljameson8395]

It's not that wild. Destiny has been called far worse tbh.

[@chasep9440]

@@carteljameson8395 yeah but nothing so descriptively perfect

[@christopher7692]

Even destiny would prolly agree tbh

[@ignotuscapillary8313]

As a Destiny fan, it's wild seeing him and Andrew agreeing on literally anything.

[@KNEESBEFORETHEFEET]

What exact attributes of destiny are you a fan of? Genuinely curious.

[@ignotuscapillary8313]

@@KNEESBEFORETHEFEET I agree with most of his opinions, I think he's smart and articulate and I appreciate that he doesn't fall victim to audience capture or appealing to political narratives.

[@tygr6701]

@@KNEESBEFORETHEFEET I would also consider myself a destiny fan. I follow him because I believe he has the strongest arguments based in logic.

[@Liberal_pan]

@@KNEESBEFORETHEFEETi think he actually believes the things that he says. He argues for liberal values better than anyone else on the internet and he's trying to promote trust in institutions which are the backbone of the country.

[@shockwavesyndrome6433]

@@ignotuscapillary8313do you like it when he moves left or right depending on who he’s taking to? He’ll defend right wingers are just normal people when he debates commies but when he’s debating a centrist suddenly all right wingers are fascists who think dinosaurs are fake

[@TheLastEmperorXiXinPig]

I didn't know this could become even funnier, already watched this on Destiny's channel.

[@thejamboy3556]

I fucking choked and spat water out of my nose when he called destiny “coomer gremlin”

[@orcanimal]

What's the point of calling Destiny names like "coommer gremlin" when he's being incredibly polite and even complimentary of Andrew in this entire video? It feels very immature. You don't need to agree with someone to respect them, and using these little name-calling jabs is very childish and only makes Andrew look bad, while it makes Destiny look like an adult capable of giving respect despite disagreeing with a person's ideology. Destiny never once calls Andrew any names or mocks him for anything, yet Andrew feels the need to use middle-school insults, even when he agrees with Destiny. Kind of sad to behave this way imo

[@shazeal1293]

It just shows who is infront. They are all online workers trying to get a bigger fan base. Dont pay to much attention to it.

[@blaccpanther8715]

Nah that's light, Coomer Gremlin is nothing. Also Destiny is not a polite person, he would see 'coomer gremlin' as fair game

[@jasonosunkoya]

Destiny himself would admit to being a coomer gremlin 😂

[@iconicfury]

As a destiny fan (who has enjoyed a bit of Andrew's content after being exposed to it by Destiny's) I thought his name calling and minor shots were very much in line with the way Destiny behaves on stream. Some mild shots to keep it spicy and funny, but nothing slanderous or bad faith. And no cry bullying! That's the big one I respect - having banter with someone you dislike/disagree with without resorting to cry bullying

[@bellyjuul]

Yap

[@CultureBoxing]

Where’s the full thing?

[@groverrogers6916]

I disagree with Andrew on self ownership. But the way he dismantled dave smith without trying was reminiscent of joe rogan dismantling candace owens by happenstance.

[@truthtopower420]

Lets go, Andrew Wilson Top G debater, S class. Special ability: use logic. Destiny lets go man!!! Making things easy to understand

[@Jaryism]

Andrew watching Destiny watching Andrew watching Dave watching his chat...

[@rewhans]

The end times are here folks. Destiny defends Andrew and Andrew said Destiny is right. Welp, good luck everybody.

[@Constantinch]

Even though Destiny and Andrew hate each other, they both have underlying values which guide their worldview. Dave Smith has nothing

[@themossad]

Poor Dave. He is always the same no matter the topic. He throws a barrage of hollow talking point which he has never really thought about for more than three seconds.

[@shadowbanned340]

mossaddid911

[@themossad]

@@shadowbanned340 so funny. No wonder you lose.

[@themossad]

@@shadowbanned340 we did everything including create Christianity. We wrote your bible. Cope.

[@themossad]

@@shadowbanned340 wedidyourmomandshebeggedformore

[@shadowbanned340]

@themossad but mossad did do 911? they also knew of 0ct 7th. they killed their own civilians for an excuse to invade gaza. They do it to you too, because youre expendable to them too.

[@tuckerk9480]

The comment about Andrew Wilson being Batman and Destiny is joker is the best analogy of their relationship. so funny

[@seaofseeof]

Dave Smith has always been really surface level in his understanding of core ideas. But the guy is so stuck in his ideological echo chamber, that he isn't used to having to defend them. So when he receives real pushback, he totally crumbles. Some of Andrew's responses actually weren't that strong and could have easily been countered by Dave Smith, but by that point Wilson was already dominating the entire debate. Super cringe-inducing to watch.

[@joshuajohnson1411]

You couldn't be further from the truth. Dave Smith has a deep understanding on quite a bit of topics and clearly no one won that debate. Andrew is an absolute arrogant prideful and who just uses circular reasoning by pretending he won a point. Just like destiny they're not looking for honest conversation but you win a game. They don't care about truth but they're pride only

[@joshuajohnson1411]

@Onthebrink5 get over yourself. Says a lot when you just want to insult someone as your argument. If you couldn't perceive the circular reasoning and ridiculous notions that he kept repeating like one of those arrogant Street preachers who insert what the other person believes, then I can't help you. There's nothing true or honest with these type of Bloodsport games are the sole intention just to make the other person look bad. They could care less about what's actually true. Andrew and destiny do it all the time and have a basic understanding on so many issues. pretty cringe. It's hilarious that this debate out of all of Dave's is the one criticized. Again Dave has a very deep understanding on quite a bit issues. I highly suggest you would look further before commenting. We're not going to convince each other though on here. good luck

[@seaofseeof]

@@joshuajohnson1411 he's always been a most yawn-inducing guest on the Tom Woods show. He has never shown any ability to deeply understand deep topics, he merely references them. A total wet blanket. Andrew Wilson has a tendency of just stating an argument, covering his ears and essentially go "la la la, I can't hear you" and then restating his argument again. And he actually offered up a few pretty weak responses. And yet, Dave caved under no pressure because of his inability to grasp the concepts he's debating.

[@joshuajohnson1411]

@@seaofseeof yep that's exactly what happened he just said la la la la la don't let me hear it. At this point you guys are just making up stuff. Again Andrew was arguing just to argue something dave was never against. Andrew isn't very bright so he resorts to bloodsports. You can keep pretending Dave has a surface level understanding but anyone who's interested in the deeper subjects knows Dave has done his homework. I highly suggest you take a little bit more time before commenting on something you don't know of someone. Again let's be adults, wrestle ideas and try to be honest looking for truth instead of just insulting to win a damn point. It's embarrassing and unproductive. This is the last time I'm replying.

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

​@@joshuajohnson1411he literally conceded the whole foundation of all his political opinions in the first 15 minutes of the conversation by rejection of the NAP (which isn't just a political and pragmatic position, but a moral one). Dave also failed to understand hypothetical, the reasons they were being given and the addendum to them to make them even more clear (ex non reproduction incest). Furthermore anytime he was asked to justify foundational questions he just ran to giving the platitudes truism of libertarianism,l; I don't like bombings in the middle east and too much government taxes ect ect. Someone else pointed out Dave isn't even an actual libertarian, he's a conservative type that has a deeper mistrust of the state than Andrew. That's not actually the philosophical basis of libertarianism. When they moved on from the axoims part of the conversation, Dave may have performed just fine btw (I didn't listen that far in, Andrew apparently said so himself in twitter), but here, no Dave crashed and burned and never even realized what happened.

[@ChiefBinChicken]

Yo, I'm a Destiny fan, enjoy watching you two chat shit and appreciated watching him go over your debate live and side with you every step of the way Take or leave this suggestion; when reacting to a video, if you pause to talk for more than 5-10 seconds, just rewind the video 5 seconds. For viewers it helps internalise the point you made by re-listening to the point you just reacted to, and it helps people who aren't 100% focused to keep track of what's going on in the video that you are reacting to. It's something that I 100% appreciate Destiny for doing

[@chrisbartolini1508]

Andrew and Destiny is the ultimate will they, won’t they?

[@NH22585]

They already have

[@channelBRC]

they've only had one 1on1 debate and destiny won it. theyve been on like 3 panels together though

[@Publiette]

Are you referencing the debate with them where the end was Andrew repeatedly badgering Destiny about his fake abortion with Lauren Southern? 😅 LMAO is that the only debate they have been 1 on 1? I didn't realize that was the only 1 on 1 if so , just wondering

[@EnglishUbermensch]

@@channelBRClmao Andrew has spanked destiny like 4 times already. The hell are you talking about?

[@bigfloppa9594]

​@@EnglishUbermenschare you regarded? Lmao

[@heat.death_999]

Where can i watch this whole reaction?

[@Wallyworld30]

On destiny's channel

[@kingdodgearcane]

Lol where do you think

[@sovereign257]

Thanks!

[@ineternitypast]

Dave the dictionarian

[@TheShahOfIran2005]

Nice to see destiny giving props to Andrew

[@tristenatorplaysgames6833]

Watching dave smith squirm in his chair and melt his brain was too funny

[@davidlopan7152]

Destiny and TomFoolery fan here. I do like watching Andrew wipe the floor with dummies.

[@shadowbanned340]

saying you're a destiny fan is very brave. like admitting some degenerate taboo fetish in public. i admire your confidence.

[@davidlopan7152]

nah. He's cool. He is on a bit of an anti-conservative arc right now, but I understand how he got there. I'm watching more of my Shaprio for the time being while he gets it out of his system. lol

[@billybrown9401]

Maybe you should show destiny the same level of respect he showed to you.

[@xJayhawkFANx]

He showed more respect to destiny here than he does to most people

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

They don't respect each other. They actually by all appearance dislike each other on a personal level. They just both can recognize the strengths of each other, and can give credit when it's obviously just true.

[@shadowbanned340]

why would you respect someone when their entire gimmic is mastery of obfuscation? destinys entire persona is to be contrarian while being paid to push agendas to his braindead following of which he probably hypocritically calls idiotic off stream. destiny is smart, but his character is repulsive.

[@GrizzlyGaz]

I watch both Andrew and Destiny, not for their political stances but for how they think. I can agree and disagree with points on both sides... Like Andrew said, they both have a very similar thought process where critical thinking and the search for the truth is paramount. Most other 'debate bro' types just rattle off buzzwords with little to no understanding of anything other than surface level talking points. I'm learning a lot from them both

[@boredom5132]

I would love to see some sort of ideological reversal debate between Andrew and Destiny, have Andrew argue from the left and Destiny argue from the right.

[@MsEldorado]

Yes! Totally would watch that

[@kingdodgearcane]

Steven would have the advantage since he used to be a Catholic right winger and isn't really that far left right now

[@wizardddy3023]

​@@kingdodgearcane Until he realises he's wrong about transing the kids, he is and always will be a far left radical. That position is incompatible with calling yourself anything else.

[@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY]

One good example of the referencing the dictionary thing. It's like when someone is debating a feminist on whether or not feminism is truly a movement for equality, and they point to the dictionary definition and declare victory. That is what we're debating. You can't win the debate by saying "uh uh uh, but the dictionary literally says that's what it is. Checkmate".

[@MATCHLESS789]

North Korea is a democracy, it's in the name.

[@DanielSandhu-jo4jj]

I was hoping you would do a react to this. I like listening to both of you, wish you would do more content together even if it’s the hostile type

[@HellaSayHella]

Andrew and Smith are both cringe as fuck, but Jesus Christ did Andrew give Smith that work. I very much enjoyed this shitshow. This was reminiscent of days of old bloodsports.

[@joshswanstrom5849]

Destiny's take on this debate was far better than the debate itself. I do wish people like Destiny and Andrew would do a better job of, for lack of a better word, dumbing things down in debates. We spent so much valuable time spinning our wheels over morality, and no time talking about the core breakdown, which seems to be when we should have government enforcing morality.

[@pbot6593]

This wass a good example of why I have respect for Destiny. People think I'm crazy to say so, but the fact of the matter is he fails in his premises, not his argumentation. He is sound but not valid. In a nutshell, he has an almost axiomatic good faith belief in the major institutions and the system at large. While he will easily admit corruption and failure of any given institution concerning a specific event when evidence is presented, his 30 thousand foot view is the manufacturered "this is the best we can do, we're only human, bad events and actors are inevitable, and no grand scheme steering society could even be possible because people can't keep secrets...and also, appeals to authority and popularity" Secularism fails in application because it applies linear logic when induction is necessary... In other words, according to materialists, there couldn't possibly be a thing such as a police detective, and, ironically, neither could one come up with a meaningful scientific hypothesis. Linear logic is like the sharpened edge of an inductive knife... They're all edge and no blade

[@JackSack-w5h]

Pretty sure failing in your premises but not your logical reasoning, means you lack soundness, not validity

[@pbot6593]

@@JackSack-w5h Yes I said it backwards, my apologies

[@Bouncebeatz1]

Good summary and I agree it is very interesting to hear the extreme counter examples and applying critical thinking which alot of people don't, most people just take the thing at face value or read a headline and repeat it. Do your own research and identify good and bad news or biases

[@torhast]

You said it yourself. He agrees when there are facts to show corruption or a conspiracy. The reason why he doesn't agree with you on the other things... is because you DON'T have evidence. This shit about "induction" vs. "linear logic" is just your cope to justify believing conspiracy theories with no evidence other than disconnected events and out of context quotes.

[@danielrivera1833]

“Damn it the coomer is right again!” Lol love both of you guys

[@alexkirigiya6765]

is there a full vod reaction somewhere?

[@cpussandfudgy]

Regarding debate skills, Destiny and Andrew (as well as Noerr) are on equal footing in my opinion. Who won their debates really comes down to who the viewer agrees with going in. Doubt many minds are changed. Dave Smith is not in the same league. He is somewhere between Cenk and Candace Owens. This debate was brutal.

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

Damn I've never thought of it that was,, but yeah Dave is absolutely cenk and Owen's teir.

[@lordycastle7177]

This was highly entertaining to watch

[@chickenporkadob0]

i want to see destiny watching Andrew watching destiny watching andrew

[@andyk3514]

Diehard Destiny fan but the debate, review and review review made me a fan of Andrew too

[@jumpandshootman5390]

The fact that Andrew would characterize being divorced as a trait of someone on the left even for a joke just goes to show at least in my view he shouldn't be taken seriously. I get bad faith juvenile jokes work for 15 year olds but as an adult where is the sensible commentary?

[@ShephardWilkinson]

Wee woo wee woo the fun police are here, someone call a wambulance for backup

[@grymjaw]

I have to disagree. I do see where you’re coming from, as someone from the left, but a joke should remain a joke.

[@chrtravels]

I agree with you he’s not dumb, but somehow he got himself in trouble with this whole Trump situation. He wasn’t able to separate himself from his emotions and he went off the deep end. I kind of feel like you have to be pretty emotion-based to arrive at some of the conclusions that he has though.

[@MolochTheOwl]

I'm making a mini doc on dumb dumb David and his flawed thinking stay tuned folks

[@bstaff812]

Can you do more of this please? Inlove to see both sides analyze.

[@traxagenda3445]

And now we wait for Destiny's response

[@TrideepNagg]

Link to the full Andrews reaction video

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

leaving a tactical comment here

[@IllD.]

You have to pay for membership on his crucible video

[@IliterateAshole]

@@IllD.awww

[@HimScary]

Destiny sucks other men off, he loses life's debate

[@Sentinel82]

Based AF. 😂

[@ellencaroline2065]

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[@MrLilpaul3]

Does it say that in the dictionary? 😅

[@leradmuiel7634]

This is true.

[@stratisclouds]

Non sequitur

[@DavidGFalzarano]

Where was this streamed

[@pchris6662]

What happened to the mock debate yesterday? It just disappeared on my screen while I was watching it. KZbin yanked it?

[@JesusIsAlphaOmega001]

😂😂😂 I was watching that too!! Hilarious!

[@b-ry3545]

Happened to me as well. I’m usually a little behind on his livestreams and it always gets pulled while I’m still watching. Anywho..Rob has the debate up still on his YT page.

[@pchris6662]

@@b-ry3545 I’m thinking maybe Andrew pulled it so people didn’t edit and make a bunch of ruthless clips out of context. So fun watching him take potshots at conservatives!

[@chadprinceton6475]

Seeing three pause buttons trips me out because of how far entertainment has come.

[@charismatic9467]

Andrew got embarrassed in that debate when it came to taxes and conscription

[@jonstryvez]

21:15 - 21:30 I love how Andrews pimp accent is basically "the count" from sesame street. 1 slap, Ahahah, 2 slap, AhAhAhah!

[@360Fov]

I so desperately want to see Dave react to this.

[@rouninpanda6318]

Next up, "Andrew Watches Destiny Watching Adrew Watch Destiny's debate with Adrew while watching Destiny on Whatever".

[@masterfire523]

Dave got shit on. Really sad showing from Dave.

[@beyoncehadoneofthebest]

is there a longer version of this

[@NordicVigilante]

lmao "The coomer gremlin" I love it

[@mbrown7325]

Holy are we about to get politics review inceptions? The genre I didn’t know we needed.

[@elvis0609]

“The coomcible” 😂😂😂😂

[@firefly9838]

Bro😂😭

[@Thomas-OToole]

Destiny and Andrew would make great team when Andrew gets over the fact that Destiny smashing Lauren Southern

[@michaellowe2305]

From a secular view I lost all hope for libertarians, they (as a group) have an unachievable purity test. And it's unachievable because no one can follow the philosophy without breaking it. Once I became 100% Christian, I can't even take it serious. And I've lost hope for every party. But that's kinda the point, we are all flawed and only God's commands are timeless

[@blackhaze8233]

I didn't realize thay were so regarded hounestly lol.

[@JTNugget]

If that's your philosophy it makes no sense that you aren't libertarian.

[@Evergy_fan]

How can you take christianity 100% serious? You are throwing logic to the wind and putting faith in its place. Andrew destroys his argument for christian ethics every time he talks. Christ is a social construct😂

[@blackhaze8233]

@@Evergy_fan why do talk about logic as something that is real when you can't see touch smell or hear it?.

[@blackhaze8233]

@@Evergy_fan Also prove Jesus Christ is a social construct.

[@evianGOWlover]

Big difference between the two of you is your religious beliefs. That’s why you come to wildly different conclusions you’re a God fearing man Destiny is not. Love your content

[@zvonomirzuboronovic8662]

Why does Destiny keep calling Andrew Wilson by his full name? lol

[@kingdodgearcane]

Why do you keep calling him Destiny?

[@xJayhawkFANx]

​@@kingdodgearcanemaybe because he GOES by destiny. Andrew doesn't go by "Andrew Wilson" he just goes by Andrew.

[@firefly9838]

@@kingdodgearcane its coomer gremlin... listen more

[@onbored9627]

I watch Destiny and Andrew, they both seem to be the best representatives of their sides (though Andrew does like to focus on the philosophical underpinnings of arguments and Destiny focuses on pragmatics). It's great to hear rational arguments from as many different viewpoints as you can.

[@JTNugget]

Destiny on the side of Andrew makes me now believe Dave won the debate.

[@blackhaze8233]

I see it more as. When two ppl that fundamentally disagree with one another on everything and for the most part dislike each other can see eye to eye and stand next to one another because of u. Than ur probably extremely regarded lol.

[@JTNugget]

@@blackhaze8233 It was a pretty tongue in cheek comment. However, I saw this coming. Destiny recently had a very heated debate with Dave and Dave openly trashed him at some event so there is bad blood between them that is far more recent than any bad blood between Destiny and Andrew.

[@sherazkamran642]

to appear objective, so your point is take seriously, especially for people who kind of do want atleast some minimum size of audience to take them authentic, can do things like this. No matter how disingenuous the person really is.

[@blackhaze8233]

@@JTNugget non the less. It still doesn't change the fact that Andrew embarrassed Dave pretty bad in this debate. I wasn't fully aware of what libertarians believe and thought before this. I had no idea that Thay were this F****NG regarded. No wonder it's a irrelevant political party.

[@JTNugget]

@@blackhaze8233 Bro you can't even type out a coherent sentence, you shouldn't be judging anyone as mentally inferior.

[@hardcore907]

I love how you two agree on nearly everything when it comes to understanding how debates work/should work, despite using self-beneficial tactics during your debates and disagreeing on everything lol You two really are made for one another 😂

[@mikeperez8]

Andrew & Destiny are like Goku & Vegeta 😂

[@No_OneV]

Accurate.

[@wizardddy3023]

Not really. In the end, both Goku and Vegita have the same goal. Protecting the Earth and fighting evil. Destiny is promoting evil.

[@mikeperez8]

@@wizardddy3023 dude….. laugh. It’s really ok.

[@Truth_Seeker_TV]

Where can i get this full video. This was amazing. This is going to be nerdy but this was like stone cold and The Rock teaming up to Beat the crap out of Batista.

[@bmacccccc]

first comment 🤙 much love from ct!

[@beastlamone8811]

Where do I find the original stream of this? Looked on crucible channel and can't find it.

[@owmypinkytoe6907]

These videos are an interesting glaze session

[@jenniefriedman258]

This WAS so satisfying. Please debate The Kumar Gremlin more often.

[@mrdinkelpuss4000]

Andrew vs Destiny. Its what the people need!!!!!

[@williamcopper4214]

Andrew on bridges?

[@Bjkbruh]

Dave and andrew never agreed on a premise for this debate. Dave seemed to be coming from the weakness of legislating morality more than debating the morality itself.

[@Canbilly2]

I want a Destiny and Andrew talk.

[@lucasgoncalvesdefaria7121]

They have debated before quite a bit

[@thomaswalmsley8959]

There's quite a few out there at this point. If you want a fun one, find the one with destiny, Wilson and grace Thorpe. Not substantial, but entertainment factor is strong there.

[@Canbilly2]

@@lucasgoncalvesdefaria7121 ty

[@Canbilly2]

@@thomaswalmsley8959 ty

[@NickMachado]

Streamception. A stream within a stream within a stream.

[@zkring]

This was great. Need to see a Destiny viewing of an Andrew critique of a Destiny debate now.

[@firepitch5113]

Why the fuck is this behind a paywall XD

[@Jo-ym6id]

how do i find the full version? is there a members only link for this?

[@eriklucasmusic]

This is so meta

[@jkonrad]

Where could I have watched this stream live? I don’t see any live streams on Bloodsport’s YT lists.

[@leradmuiel7634]

The Crucible Andrew’s main channel.

[@jkonrad]

@@leradmuiel7634 Thanks!

[@LawOfNonContradiction]

@@leradmuiel7634 don't see it on his "the crucible" channel. under live, it isn't there either...

[@leradmuiel7634]

The Dave debate is there. The one where Andrew is reacting to destiny went private as soon as it was done.

[@LawOfNonContradiction]

@@leradmuiel7634 will it be become public?

[@coachcoopfitness]

Andrewception

[@Lucabran9093]

Destiny and Andrew are just so enjoyable together.