Be sure to check out Kye Bull's channel for more amp nerdery! Get the gear we used here: Ibanez RGDMS8: sweetwater.sjv.io/Nk63MK Orange OR30: sweetwater.sjv.io/751XBY Blackstar St James: sweetwater.sjv.io/rQJE1j Blackstar HT Stage 100 Mark III: sweetwater.sjv.io/eKkn51
@mana20 Жыл бұрын
Against all the evils that Hell can conjure, All the wickedness that mankind can produce, We will send unto them... Only you. Tone Shaper!
@andreslefttesticle Жыл бұрын
Djent and chug until it is done
@reubenk7331 Жыл бұрын
"Wow that's crazy" 🤣 Cool stuff guys! I also wanted to tell you seeing Carcosa and Angelmaker at Preserving Underground was so awesome! You guys killed it, and the clarity of your sound was awesome. It was really cool meeting you and Johnny too.
@BaenaCarcosa Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for coming to a show! Happy you had a good time
@reubenk7331 Жыл бұрын
@@BaenaCarcosa For sure! It was also my first Deathcore show ever. Definitely an awesome experience. When I saw Carcosa and Angelmaker I had to go!
@SoopaGaming Жыл бұрын
yooo I was at that show too, was a great time and was able to get a photo with Andrew :D
@reubenk7331 Жыл бұрын
@@SoopaGaming Yeah it was freaking awesome! I didn't get to hang around after everyone played, but I still got to see Andrew and Johnny by the merch tables.
@alrecks619 Жыл бұрын
that fuzzy quality of the orange amps somehow work well with 8 and 9 strings, as long as you can make the low end appropriate for different genres.
@DCJayhawk57 Жыл бұрын
I think it lends itself to more stoner/doom rather than syncopated djenty stuff. I have an Orange Rocker 15 Terror and rarely use it for modern metal, but if I'm playing Mastodon? Hell yeah. I have a Fortin 33 pedal, haven't tried yet in front of the Orange (I mostly play 8 string through my Mesa Triple Crown 100W), so I'm curious if it would tighten it up enough. The Orange has so much low end compared to the Mesa, so wonder if it would balance it out.
@SplotchTheCatThing Жыл бұрын
I bought an OR15 with my 8-string (because I played something like it in the store and really liked how it sounded in spite of that bassiness) and the best trick I've found so far is putting a DS-1 in the effects loop, and splitting the amount of gain I want between the amp's drive and the pedal's distortion knob -- it doesn't affect the timbre of the distortion very much but if I put the pedal's tone knob anywhere around center it really tightens up the sound and cleans up that bottom end. Only downside in my bedroom is it gets a little bit tricky to control the volume :D
@CorbenEdward Жыл бұрын
Imagine sitting in a room in GERMANY with an 8 string multiscale ibanez, filled with fricken ENGL amps and being forced to play through an OR-30 lol. Comedy gold, sounded badass and crunchy when dialed in with lower gain.
@higler. Жыл бұрын
This was fucking awesome. Hope we get to see more of you two together!
@belligerentamateur Жыл бұрын
He's gonna stay the night next week if my mom says it's ok
@higler. Жыл бұрын
@@belligerentamateur Hope mom is cool about it!
@amirtak9886 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see the boyzz linking up !!
@TobyKBTY Жыл бұрын
BRO it's two of my favorite belligerent chug monkeys. Despite playing completely different metal styles, you both are among my top metal channels
@belligerentamateur Жыл бұрын
My guy
@halsinden3 ай бұрын
seriously? is NOBODY going to mention the clear & present effect on tone that such *short* shorts have? major leg-room.
@TheNorthernJake Жыл бұрын
Kyle would be amazing as an amp tech on the road, he seems so knowledgeable, and he has a great ear!
@belligerentamateur Жыл бұрын
Would be V sick, but also, I don't know SHIT about repairing amplifiers. 😂😂
@thehunter7422 Жыл бұрын
Came across your channel recently and couple others and Been binge watching some vids last couple days lol you earned a new sub and also you and couple other people sold me on getting not only a 7 String but also an 8 String guitar. Cant freaking wait to try these out. Ordered a Satin Black Amaranth 7 String Jackson JS Series Dinky Arch Top JS22-7 DKA HT and an 8 string White Ibanez RG8WH with IBZ Humbuckers. Both look beautiful and price wise after seeing and watching reviews of it, look like an awesome great starter cheap 7 and 8 string guitars. These 2 are definitely gonna be my most quality wise guitars i have lol. 2 electric guitars i have are off branded . The 4 string bass guitar i have so far is the most expensive thing i have guitar wise , an Ibanez bass ( forgot the name of it lol but it looks beautiful and it costs over 300 Canadian dollars, i think nearly 400) excited to test these guitars out. Dipping my toes in new territories here lol and I'm all here for it. Hopefully can master some Meshuggah songs is my goal in the next couple months. Wish me luck when they arrive, thank you for the awesome vids in convincing me to get an 8 and 7 string guitar
@misfitwookiee3177 Жыл бұрын
You guys rock together, and the chemistry is real! 😂 Seriously, having just a couple points of reference can be awesome just because of the differences of approach - in this example, tone. I appreciate you two allowing us to join you on this experience! Thought I was subbed to you, Andrew, and rectified that now! May not always be my style, but I grow by learning from others outside my wheelhouse!
@belligerentamateur Жыл бұрын
If only you could see our behind the scenes conversations. Good, moral people would hate us.
@misfitwookiee3177 Жыл бұрын
@@belligerentamateur Dude, make it a PPV! Or maybe for Patreon peeps - "Kyle Bull: Belligerent & Uncensored!
@belligerentamateur Жыл бұрын
I legitimately didnt even know you played a DOOM riff during this video. I was too deep on the tone zone, baby.
@BaenaCarcosa Жыл бұрын
😎😎😎
@themightymcb7310 Жыл бұрын
I think what all three of these amps needed was an EQ pedal in front, in the fx loop, or both.
@danmaycock9238 Жыл бұрын
Post distortion is massively underrated.
@chrisshanteau5353 Жыл бұрын
Just met you in Seattle, said lemme see this baby when you opened your case and said man no killswitch in drop c today?? You used my shoulder to get on the stage edge.. legebdary
@boohoo7565 Жыл бұрын
I was at an afterparty a few weekends ago where a group of musicians were talking about this guy. They kept referring to him as Kyle BS which is funny now that i know his actual name.
@josearjona3728 Жыл бұрын
That Orange wipes the floor with the other two amps
@andrefludd Жыл бұрын
Okay, I'm watching and taking notes because I have no clue how to get heavy tones. Thank boys.
@cultistsash Жыл бұрын
I want a 4 string guitar like PotUSoA play, but only the top two and bottom two strings from an 8 string guitar.
@cynicalsaint5690 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing mine with a PRS MT15 and its been perfect for the job because its such a tight and articulate high gain amp.
@dreammachine86 Жыл бұрын
Very tempted to get one of those MT15s, they seem incredible value for money and ideal for modern metal. Although 8 strings can be a challenge so that's even more impressive that it handles one of those Ibanez 8 strings well.
@cynicalsaint5690 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using a solar A1.8 instead of the Ibanez but regardless of the brand I highly recommend you try out an mt15 for your 8 string. The dirty channel almost feels so tight and so laser focused high gain that it almost reacts like a plug-in. Very brutal
@mattypoptarts Жыл бұрын
He hit him with the “thats crazy” 😂
@josephofschlagenheim1971 Жыл бұрын
This is so smart, exactly what a lot of us new 8-stringers need to know. Thanks to both of you.
@ethanjenkins81213 күн бұрын
I love orange amps so much, they respond so well to any style and/or pedals
@actuallyasriel Жыл бұрын
"and if not, I'm gonna throw it out the f*u*cking window" I died thank you forever
@chandlerdant8088 Жыл бұрын
Even though 8 strings is a ridiculous amount, you cannot deny that it sounds absolutely brutal. (NO hate)
@TheWRCS Жыл бұрын
Watching you mess around with the guitar tones takes me back to the days of seeing local shows at the VFW.
@ultratacoRX7 Жыл бұрын
I would have liked to hear those engls too
@macklehnertmusic Жыл бұрын
The Revv Generator 7-40 in the background kills them all!
@jrlee243 Жыл бұрын
I have an OR50, and I really dig it with a 7 string. I use a dirty tree and sometimes a guptech PTSD. But I have to run the guptech in the front because those amps have no fx loop. I just digg the orange tone.
@TStop52 Жыл бұрын
I’m so curious about choosing the Ibanez for touring. On previous reviews, he stated a string preference for the neutral fret to be lower, around 7 or 9. AFAIK Ibanez always sets theirs at 12. Wouldn’t that be way less comfortable for touring? Wondering what else that guitar offers that led to that change in preference.
@JohnnyTwuft Жыл бұрын
Baena in Erie?!
@Samuraijake93 Жыл бұрын
This is a cool video Kyle is awesome
@absence7445 Жыл бұрын
Pleasantly surprised by how good the Orange sounded. The St. James was decent, but god that HT Stage was atrocious, even with all the tweaking. Great video overall!
@josearjona3728 Жыл бұрын
Blackstar never fails to dessapoint 😆
@JohnWiku Жыл бұрын
The new blackstars sound worse than the cheapest chinese distortion pedal, what are they even doing? I love it that these amps are being shown as the next Jesus coming 😂😂😂 Money talks, money buys opinions, but all that won't make me buy any blackstar amp EVER, I'm not sure if I'd keep it even given for free!
@JaredMuskego4490 Жыл бұрын
You and Kyle are awesome shit rock on guys
@belligerentamateur Жыл бұрын
We love shit rock!
@Cmac0099 Жыл бұрын
Kyle convinced me to buy a silver stripe peavey bandit! Awesome amp for home or small gigs.
@spongebob66648 ай бұрын
“We are almost out of gain” ☠️☠️
@fatsuperfly Жыл бұрын
Lol! This is a funny cool idea vid, love both your guys vids. Much Mahalos
@allanpatterson6741 Жыл бұрын
I got this Chancellor bass crybaby wah with fuzz builtnin it, I use when playing 8 string. Shit sounds morbid
@TobyKBTY Жыл бұрын
As someone who plays a 27' scale baritone in drop F# through a Rockerverb, that Orange tone is definitely up my alley. I gotta try an OR30
@Fistful0fSteel Жыл бұрын
I use gauge .80 on 27" and my low string is really loose...I dont know how you people do it 😀
@TobyKBTY Жыл бұрын
@@Fistful0fSteel Admittedly I'm a fan of being on the slinkier side and boosting loose amps. I use a 10-74 in drop F# and it's ideal for what I like LOL. It's pretty loose, but with the right setup still sounds snappy and brutal.
@Fistful0fSteel Жыл бұрын
@@TobyKBTY awesome!!!
@Fistful0fSteel Жыл бұрын
@@TobyKBTY Im turning 40 next September and will have a perfect argument as ammo for my lady to buy another guitar. This one is def gonna have an Evertune in it. Just gonna see which pickups and which guitar maker... ;-)
@acidpancakes420 Жыл бұрын
@@Fistful0fSteel how??? My .74 in F# on 26.5 is plenty tight
@saberreiter8569 Жыл бұрын
yoooo, Kyle in the house !
@jasonbates2687 Жыл бұрын
I take it that Kyle and Andrew are roughly the same age but Kyle is definitely more old school which is more relatable to me, there is no substitute for a big hot tube amp. As for 8 string guitars, I suppose they have their place if played well but everyone I have heard sounds like a dump truck falling down a mountain, random noise.
@idiosyncraticmushroom30305 күн бұрын
I think the or30 is untapped for sludge metal potential.
@ericskinner7355 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like when I put new strings on my bass before I tune it up...🤘
@kennethsmith5383 Жыл бұрын
Andrew Baena: *says name* Captions: Andrew B*ner
@rr-fn5bs Жыл бұрын
Kyle is my buddy. We're getting bunk beds.
@Fistful0fSteel Жыл бұрын
That low E string has to be cooked spaghetti with 27"
@thanebear Жыл бұрын
Nah Bru it's just a bass string. 😆
@Fistful0fSteel Жыл бұрын
@@thanebear I have an .80 on my 27”. Drop E it’s just too floppy
@thanebear Жыл бұрын
@@Fistful0fSteel I mean. . I used to use .75 for drop B(when I was younger and dumber haha) I'd say you need bigger ones. Never played in double drop e tho. Sheeesh
@Fistful0fSteel Жыл бұрын
@@thanebear normal drop E. I don’t play anything double whatever 🤣🤣
@thanebear Жыл бұрын
@@Fistful0fSteel yeah I was making a joke because there is nothing normal about E-0, my guy.
@getgoblin8 ай бұрын
Dude just reminds me of Matt Damon in every video!
@bengreenbank Жыл бұрын
All of them sounded good once dialed in. But imo nothing sounds better than a 5150. Yeah everyone uses them but they just sound the best.
@ErikAnders Жыл бұрын
Good one
@connorpayne267111 ай бұрын
"8 string guitar tones are dumb" Really? Right in front of my Ibanez RGDMS8?
@towerofresonance4877 Жыл бұрын
Mastodon feel in a way!
@ChernobylAudio666 Жыл бұрын
Can confirm. Sack is getting saggy.
@BaenaCarcosa Жыл бұрын
Happens to the best of us
@belligerentamateur Жыл бұрын
Your sack is sagging to meet the rest of your meat suit
@Durkhead Жыл бұрын
You should make t-shirts that say just buy a bass
@Razrback Жыл бұрын
What do you mean it sounded good im pretty sure Kyle would beg to differ
@TheMirrorify Жыл бұрын
Kyle has 13.5 amps for every string on your guitar.
@belligerentamateur Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you noticing
@TheMirrorify Жыл бұрын
@@belligerentamateur and I appreciate the amp demos 😁
@Turboy65 Жыл бұрын
I agree, that sounds dumb. Fanned frets are also dumb.
@drew004jc Жыл бұрын
8 strings are great, you can break 2 of your strings and it wont even affect your playing
@ericdravenX00X Жыл бұрын
It sounded good.💀🤘
@DavidAllenMD Жыл бұрын
Bro kyles funny as shit yo turned everything down lmao
@wyldeslash2003 Жыл бұрын
Good oinky tone tho!
@markscohier9308 Жыл бұрын
That 8 string sounds like sheeeeutttttt
@davidburgess5689 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe anyone takes Kyle Bullshit seriously.
@savoirfaire8979 Жыл бұрын
*Kyle needs to stop skipping leg days.*
@dadoffour Жыл бұрын
Ye 8 strings in general are dumb
@palanthis Жыл бұрын
"Cut out some of those low end frequencies." You do understand the point of an 8-string, right? It has two LOWER strings. They are supposed to be prominent in the tone. Not gansta rap level bass, but the chugs should thump. Or the breakdown will just be silly.
@belligerentamateur Жыл бұрын
I don't think he gets it, he never really plays those.
@adamsteelproducer Жыл бұрын
Yeah nah. Not how it works.
@Durkhead Жыл бұрын
I'm so confused
@belligerentamateur Жыл бұрын
@@Durkhead me too. I don't even work here.
@Durkhead Жыл бұрын
@@belligerentamateur "I'm not even supposed to be here today!"
@davidencoification Жыл бұрын
I hate when people, especially you, call 8 string guitars dumb, since you're one of the biggest 8 string advocates on youtube. It's the best thing to happen to metal in more recent times. Why center your entire channel around extended range guitars when you constantly call them dumb? I know you don't actually feel that way because I've been following your channel for many years. Every instrument has "ups and downs" but calling extended range guitars and their tones dumb, is dumb within itself.
@BaenaCarcosa Жыл бұрын
It’s just a video title 🤷♂️ obviously I don’t think they’re dumb but you gotta play KZbin’s game if you want people to click
@crankymcgee Жыл бұрын
@@BaenaCarcosa I dunno man, I’m looking into 8 string guitars and your titles in the search results are off-putting. Once I watched a video I realized you like them, but I was looking for any and all opinions on 8 strings anyway. You’ve probably missed out on views from 8 string fans with no knowledge of your actual stance. What motive would they have to want to click? What is your thought process? Are you trying to get views from 8 string haters? Most people don’t go out of their way to focus on something they don’t like…