This Champion Needs Our Help! (Paladins)

[@Cypisowki45]

Hello, Imani main here. Thanks for bringing attention to all her bugs, Ik the devs really pay attention to you so I hope they will do something about her. Here are some additional things I think you'd like to know 1. Ice bolts like to noreg in matches 2. Splitting ice doesn't proc on most deployables, excluding luna and ying clones and has really low range, making it really not that useful 3. I think Imani's glide is decent. Ik it won't help you during the fights, but it's a decent escape tool and allows you to abuse high grounds more than most champions. 4. Fire cannon is absolutely trash. Defo agree with all you said, but you skipped one important thing. No matter how much swift sear you have in your deck, you lose all momentum if any aoe champion with knock ack on primary hits you. This means, that if you fight against ash and she shoots you, you just hang in one place. 5. Dragon likes to get stuck on doors and not go down when pressing down inputs, on top of being genuinely awful 6. Falloff on dragon was acknowledged by devs when the bugged patch released. Didn't do anything about it yet tho :V Thx for making vid again, hope they do something to fix her :P

[@wlaba272]

Yeah I really like to play her, didn't notice some of the bugs you say but for me the share fact that she doesn't register on daily Quests for me is enough to abandon her :C

[@BrambleJam]

I've had many many issues with the frost bomb not hitting anyone that is clearly in its range, and not rooting either.

[@JABRIEL251]

Her Dragon also sometimes flies into the sky and cannot descend. Seems map dependent

[@respawn_6678]

From an imani main her inferno cannon isn’t trash stfu

[@respawn_6678]

From an imani main her inferno cannon isn’t trash stfu

[@mortada566]

Imani was one of my favourite champions back when i was new to game but i played her less and less because of frustration of her many bugs and sadly her bugs are not just visual ,its game breaking 💔

[@acolonheidern5419]

As an Imani main since 2019, this video is almost 100% right She's currently like a more awkward sha lin, but with some AOE dmg Buffs to her inferno cannon and maybe reducing the minimum range for max frost bomb dmg would honestly be enough to help her especially when dueling flanks But I'm just glad someone is raising awareness around just how many issues there are with the champ coz she definitely needs some love from the devs lol

[@JoyBGaming]

Imani is still my main and I love her! She should deal burn damage with her fire IMO.

[@RandomAnimalsFacts]

Hi! It's great to see this issue being addressed, haha. I absolutely love Imani and her kit, just as you do. However, as you mentioned, she could use some attention in terms of reworks and buffs. I firmly believe that Frost Bomb stands out as her most impressive ability. Not only does it offer a root effect, but the damage it deals is also remarkable, especially when enemies are grouped up - it can amass damage comparable to an ultimate ability. On the other hand, her ultimate is unfortunately lacking in utility. While it might work in casual matches against lower Elo or new players who might not target your vulnerable body after the split, facing more experienced opponents renders her ultimate almost useless. In such situations, relying on a teammate to protect you throughout the duration hardly seems worthwhile. Speaking of her movement ability, I agree with your observation that it's nearly impossible to dodge. Despite appearances of evasive maneuvers, the movement tends to be quite linear, often just shifting left and right without significant dodging. It's clear that her optimal talent is Splitting Ice - I've exclusively used this talent and don't foresee situations where the others would be advantageous, unfortunately. Turning to her cards, you're absolutely right that they need adjustment. While they marginally enhance mana generation and ability cooldowns, they fail to substantially increase damage output or speed up ability deployment. It's baffling that some cards even introduce a cooldown of their own. It might sound like I've had a tough time with Imani, but truth be told, I enjoy playing her a lot. However, I do shy away from using her in ranked matches, fearing I'll be outplayed by proficient flankers. Additionally, picking Wrecker with Imani feels counterproductive due to her relatively lower DPS. When she's the sole damage champion and needs to choose Wrecker, it doesn't hold up against the performance of other damage champions with higher damage potential.

[@SlipTheRacc]

Lian's abilities apply cauterize

[@dza_kicuf]

Imani was one of the 3 champions I put in the feedback survey. She is my favorite champion and her current state is sad.

[@EggMixValid]

The bugs part are true tho it sux the dragon gets bugged a LOT, but the inferno cannon rarely gets bugged for me. Other than that ya gonna make me OP LoL. PS: The fall off on dragon has been there for a while LoL it's dumb.

[@Triple__O]

Imani main here and I personally feel like she does deserve some buffs hear are my thoughts. Frostbolt dps increased to 500. Pyromania dps increased from 800 to 900 with a 50 damage burn, so overall 950. Inferno Cannon now applies caut. And tbh I'd fix the reveal and fall off dps problem on the dragon. Then buff that things hp to 10k. What do ya'll think?

[@potato927]

10k hp on dragon would be awful, sure you could get bulldozer, but thats 900 credits gone for one ult counter that isnt even guaranteed to happen. Now, yes, Imanis dragon has a huge hitbox, and it gets shredded from a distance, but thats the point, your supposed to ult when you get the opportunity

[@axs_denied100]

All are great ideas except the 10k hp. Thats too much cheif

[@clowny_thunder]

As a person who got a skin for her during the anniversary. YES, I want to use it T-T

[@mikehawk1856]

It’s kinda crazy to me to read online where people seem to think Imani is fine where she just because she can root people 😶 Her root gets hard countered by resil and has difficulty getting uptime due to the internal CD. And it doesn’t change the fact that she’s very buggy and is extremely outclasses by even healers

[@biobio5837]

I used to play her a lot! She eventually got worse and worse with the bugs, making her really difficult to play..

[@luciusmorgan-gt8hn]

The crazy thing is that Pyromania deals 800dmg every 1.2 seconds. By default, Imani’s frost bolts deal 440 every 0.5 seconds. So, by the time you have fired 2 frost bolts you will have dealt 880dmg. With splitting ice, you will have dealt that dmg on top of 2 splitting ice procks, which is 450dmg. The exact same as Pyromania’s explosion radius, But with 80 more dmg and faster by 0.2 seconds, which is a minuscule difference but it’s there.

[@williamkimbel6622]

Imani was one of my favorite and most played champions. Her bugs really just ruin her. One of the biggest bugs that annoys me I never see anyone mention. When you cancel her dragon it will switch my keybindings of the glide and element shift until you go back to the keybindings page. My bindings are the following: E=glide Shift= switch Q= ultimate So annoying to cancel dragon when in danger then just change element instead of glide since the keybindings are then different.

[@AndrewChicken]

Wow, I didn't know that was a bug as I've never encountered it myself! Another bug that someone brought up in the comments was that if you get even the slightest knockback while using inferno cannon with swift sear, you'll basically become rooted. It destroys all momentum, and is really bad!

[@jesuslara6533]

there's one bug you missed. when you use the Ult oftenly it resets keyboard binding to default, and it keeps like that until open config or ending the match. and becomes really anoying when you have thumb buttons or shift for movement ablty

[@ego0obaby]

she used to be the reason why I played paladins, I’m level 100+ with her and I have countless hours played on her. The day they butchered the movement ability and the inferno cannon I knew it was the end for her. I’ve made posts on reddit showing how stupidly bugged she is but to avail, the devs just don’t care. her movement ability and the inferno cannon are practically useless if you’re facing anyone with even the smallest knock back. Not to mention they shadow nerfed the movement speed for both abilities a few years back without even putting it in the patch notes, so playing without swift sear & pyretic momentum is basically game over before the game even starts with the blaster meta going on currently. also i’ve seen no one talk about it but the dragon movement on console is COMPLETELY broken, you can’t even get the dragon out the doorways without basically wasting your whole ultimate. it’s been months since I played paladins and personally have no interest in going back knowing I wont have fun playing my favourite champ :(

[@ranzu3138]

Bottom line: A lot of talents need rework or straight up replacement. A lot of them are either redundant, useless, uninteresting, or don't make sense like Moji's two healing talents.

[@rell660]

PLEASE mention the Octavia commanding leap bug on the controller When you have the chance.

[@JABRIEL251]

I like Pyromania. I want the basic idea to stay, but it should do 1000 damage on direct hit and then you can keep the 800 Aoe. I think that's fine.

[@56jisanzaman38]

also she is bugged for challenges. if u have play as damage champ challenge and play imani, it doesn't count

[@gaymer2574]

That's becausae even Hi-Rez knows that Imani is barely even a champion right now

[@alexiscarranza6601]

It only happens when you use the Dragon in a match, it happened to me too! I recommend, if you still like to use Imani, to not use her ultimate when doing dmg (or Imani's) challenges.

[@Stahltraeger]

Btw. you can't do daily quests with Imani (for ex. play 6 times als dmg).

[@BrambleJam]

I think something that could work instead of applying caut on fire cannon would be a stackable burn effect that lasts for a second after you stop or some such. That way they wouldn't have to put caut on an ability, plus there are multiple champs that apply burn, so its a mechanic with precedent. Plus, yknow, you're theowing literal fire at them?

[@T.K.F.]

Oh yeah, this just occurred to me. A lot of the champions released before caut was a Passive has a lot of self healing or lifereap cards. But a new champions after caut became a Passive has more shield cards. Wow......that's bs

[@antalito3047]

As a Jenos main, I love to see when there’s an Imani in the enemy team. I always save my ult and just wait for the dragon to appear…

[@Un_touchable]

Resident Imani main here, 1. Frostfire glide can work as mobilty if you play like Evie's soar. But really only if you run its speed card at level 2 (minimum). 2. Pyromania is her worst talent as mana riff gives the same mana buff but without sacrificing damage. Splitting ice can work but you'd be playing without a talent in 1v1's or if the enemies aren't grouping up. (Also I don't think the ricochet apllies cauterize) 3. i think pyromania should be changed to "Pyro cannon now matches half of current anti-heal) Only half as to not ruin the balancing. 4. Her ult can be amazing, sometimes. I personally try to ult behind them or if im backed into a corner (works more rhen you think) but thwy really messed it up when they added fall-off. Im pretty the devs have PTSD from her release patch. Lastly, they shouldn't have implemented affinty at level 5 into base kit. They should made a 3 or 4 second colldown instead, and just change the reduction amount on her reset cards instead of putting internal cooldowns on them.

[@xriskitforthebiscuitx9965]

Man, I loved playing Imani. I typically only play either Support or Yago. Imani is the first DPS I went for. Unfortunately stopped playing her since I took a break from Paladins, but coming back and seeing all the extra bugs that hadn't existed before makes me so sad hahaha (cuz before I felt like she was a bit on the clunky side). I'm glad you made a video for her. She's got such great potential.

[@craunched1374]

can we talk about how with splitting ice sometimes the damage just doesn’t work? From your primary fire..?

[@jiddkorr4870]

I think Moji needs more help.

[@sebastianaltamirano4991]

i mostly use the dragon to split the team from the point and usually i cancel it (wich sometimes bugs and there are 3 sec where i cant move)

[@trailmix1013]

Great vid. No wonder I don't play Imani much. I also don't like the frost bomb exploding right when I throw it near certain halls or doorways, etc. To me that is bugged on certain maps.

[@paulieodrumgod]

We need all this.

[@-KYUSS-]

@Paladins These are fantastic ideas from Andrew. Please fix Imani.

[@akhil_kasiram]

Another bug /feature her ult has is, if you're too close to an enemy, the dragon doesn't deal damage

[@ShadowSaberBaroxio]

Some ideas: Pyromaniac is merged with Splitting Ice. Mana Void heals hp for self & allies Frost bomb only slows, doesn't root. Third talent makes Frost Bomb root, also adds slow on Inferno Cannon Keep falloff on Dragon, but Imani actually rides the damn thing, completely transforms her.

[@sebastianaltamirano4991]

has the devs said anything about these imanie bugs (specially the ult one)

[@abieltorres8424]

Thank you for your support of messed up champions, I hope this gets to the community manager and something can be done. Save imani, save My 260lv Main The changes that I would make to make it look good. 1 Increase the base speed of the ice projectile 2 Decrease by at least .1 or .2 seconds the fire projectile charge. And make it without charge hit at least 200 damage 3 Improve movement skill at least in speed. 10% more 4 Increase the speed of the ice bomb about 15% 5 Increase the damage of the fire cannon and decrease the duration so that the DPS increases but not the time in which it can do it. Example that does 140 but for 3 seconds and not 4 6 Pyromania should do 1000 damage, 7 Manafissure It should be active when using the talent without the need to activate it when standing still

[@Han-bw5zn]

Is the primary fire preference or is there situation one is better than the other?

[@TJJ069]

9:46 RASEREI!! german announcer at his best

[@silraerthelost6762]

only two characters I can think off with bugs on par with Imani are Corvus teleport, and Koga wall climb. Koga wall climb is probably the single worst version of a wall climb in ANY game I've played, and it gets progressively worse throughout the match for some reason. It's usually better to run his jump height on agility card or play dragon fangs if you want any sort of vertical traversal from him. Also unsure if Dragon Fangs still using Koga's energy meter along with his health is a bug or if it's intended, but it's awful and usually leaves him defenseless after a skewer. Omen is also super buggy, especially his 'not void grip,' but he's still brand new And I don't think I need to explain Corvus teleport issues.

[@mellowmaniac3425]

As a current Imani enjoyer, despite knowing I'm gonna get absolutely diffed by the enemy dmg champ (I only play unranked), I still play her just because of how fun she is. I agree tho, I just end up playing like Sha Lin in the back and occasionally jumping in and rooting someone then flying back. This kinda also forced me to play a spammy CC build which is fun, sure, but is not that impactful at all because of resilience. .. and of course never using my ult because it does absolutely nothing for me or my team. Maybe we can have a built-in shield when we cast ult? Maybe a 1K HP shield just so we have enough time to react when we're being flanked without getting one-shot while stationary.

[@mr.pretzel4036]

As an ex-imani main thank you for making this video and i know this is the secons time youve made a video on her being bad already but hopefully hirez will decide to fix her

[@TheWolf-fr4dz]

One way Imanis ult is also bugged is that you dont get elims as a dragon. Many times it happened to me, you melt their health yet you dont get any credit. Also, when the ult is finished, you need to press an ability to get into first person. Sometimes you get locked after it.

[@fizz_time7003]

Andrew chicken I realized that you are what gaming merchant is to apex legends but for paladins

[@spongebobsdisapproval]

As an Imani main, seeing her fall from grace hurt me. She was always buggy but when they nerfed her cards, she became practically unplayable. I still play her cuz she’s fun but having shit like the fire beam bug happen makes her equally as frustrating.

[@hensforth]

I like to play Imani and I actually like to play pyromania. As a not so great player I like to get at least some dps with the aoe than just completely missing

[@respawn_6678]

As a lvl 100+ imani main, I love imani so much, she’s perfect for me and I have popped off a lot even after cool-down nerfs but I think her bugs need to be fixed and those cool down nerfs weren’t needed, and they should get rid of dragon dmg fall off, overall she’s the only dps I play in ranked basically and she’s still really good!

[@Rayan-id3gk]

I have the inferno cannon glitch abnormally often. Like there is a 50/50 if I get it or not

[@yvezzaint]

12:08 Fix the bug where you cast the ability but the snowball doesn t exist ( i used to main imani but the bugs and the no attention fixing these made me chance that )

[@coconutlauncher]

While it's true that Pyromania has lower dps than those other blasters, saying it's useless just because of that is not fair. Other than the fact that the explosion radius is way bigger the all of the others' (especially Drogoz's) Fire balls also have much better range (Bk and Dredge because of their trajectories, Drogoz literally by numbers). It may not be as "damaging" on paper but it has these unique traits that still make it a distinct weapon deserving to exist so it should just be buffed, NOT removed. Also, no, Splitting Ice doesn't count as already having a blaster talent because it only works against two opponents at a time, no more and no less.

[@vanralf1690]

Imani has such a cool concept

[@ΓιώργοςΣαββάκης-δ7β]

The can make the flame thrower her main fire and her fireball an instantaneous ability with cool down so she can finish kills(and make them both apply catarise) Also they should make her board go faster like evies broom stick so she can actually move normally The ice ball should not restrict you so much you should be able to fire without popping it Finally make the dragon faster and remove the falloff but she becomes the dragon witch means she disappears from the map but when the dragon dies she dies

[@antroneny]

Bulldozer got buff so the dragon got nerf. They want us to buy bulldozer, when if u shoot deployable Saati reveal you, you can shoot saati coins, ying get cooldown, barik get cooldown in all his abilities, inara's EARTHEN GUARD grant 35% DR to a 5000 health wall. Buying bulldozer is only good for barik FORGEFIRE, azzan walls, Dragon, Luna and sometimes agains totems but this is not better than shot an enemy to apply cauterize and not wasting for damage you so can kill. Bulldozer is good option mostly if enemies at least have 2 of those worth disployable. So yes they have to give sense of living to Bulldozer, other than turn a Dragon into a Chicken.

[@user-ts1hs6ki1x]

Imani main here. Sadly due to her bugs and low dps, she gets outclassed by most other champions. You need to be extremely passive in order to do great with her. On a 1v1 scenario, she dies before she can get decents dps off. I agree with all the suggestive changes in the video. She has the right toolkit on paper, but in game she feels really underwhelming. She has a fun play style but needs a bit of some tune ups. Also btw, she is the only champion in the game who can have internal cooldowns in her whole card loadout.

[@Lordhavikclericofkhaos]

I just had one of the weirdest conversations with a friend he calls all of the supports in paladins healers but calls pip a support because as he puts it he doesn't heal

[@E.n.swan90]

Would also be nice if inferno cannon got the benefits from Furias ultimate

[@labossdaone8194]

Now do this video for half of the frontline class pls

[@gabrielsmith3993]

And people get mad at me when I refuse to feed with her ult...

[@yabbadabbindude]

The stance switch characters were ill conceived from start, imani and koga both don't feel like complete characters but 2 halves slapped together

[@King_Cobra0]

i feel like terminus should get some love, especially his 1 hit ult

[@justinepaulcordovilla5852]

I want to see an Imani ult but make the dragon lot smaller to avoid clipping on EVERYTHING and faster to traverse, like youre a bigger cassie bird but going out zooming to look and kill enemies. The body left should really have buffed hp like atleast 50% of your hp so you dont die so quick. Or atleast just make it so like when you ult, your body just disappears and the dragon appears, then when the dragon dies you teleport back as imani from your original location. Atleast the ult feels safe to use lmao

[@elmercy4968]

Then you could kill every flank by ulting. That'd be cool.

[@Arioflove]

The accuracy of this is so heart breaking lol. Like i wanna main Imani but her dragon is death

[@happyhoppip9159]

1000% agree! When I play Imani I do better when I just never ult - not only is it buggy but its just a throw ability unless you got a makoa shielding you as you ult on the enemies faces

[@xventus00x70]

If you ult and has different key binds for her. The ult will reset them

[@bigo2449]

My friend mains her by heart and this video speaks everything he says its kinda wild the character can be so messed up people all agree huh

[@jesterjaded73]

Buff the base speed of F, buff the aoe damage, buff or rework inferno cannon, make her invincible during ult and nerf the ult health / damage if need be. Ez. Imani would be such a fun and decent character if her F was genuinely one of the best movement abilities in the game.

[@respawn_6678]

As a 100+ imani main I’m really confused why they nerfed her dragon so much like that and can’t see her health and it wasn’t needed they need to buff it again

[@LoveJattt]

Does hi rez actually watch his videos cuz if theres anyone to watch to get a feel of the community IT WOULD BE HIM

[@T.K.F.]

Now do a video like this but for koga pls

[@a.k.axurai5678]

I'd like pyromania to be reworked entirely based on frost glide.

[@thechosenfives]

also the dragon is so big for no reason, clunky to control, goes up without touching anything for some reason making it so hard to go down and it is just slow

[@Ibezoeing]

the movement on her ult is so clunky its so hard to control

[@fortesque9506]

if you play imani and use the ultimate the game stop giving you progres for the daily quest like play as DPS or win x match

[@Satray01]

Ill see your Imani and raise you a Tiberius F - Imani > Tib (The time it takes for Tiberius to engage his leap/dash, Imani would already been 10 ft in the air) Q - Imani - Tib (not really comparable given Imani's Stance function) Right Click - Imani > Tib Primary - Imani > Tib (Much more forgiving primiary) Ult - Imani < Tib (you could even argue Imani's is better given the circumstances but over Tib's is better) Frost Bomb and Inferno Cannon are objectively better than Tiberius's Heavy Blade and his Q.

[@Golasto_]

epic video

[@RandomNPC_23]

Cringe the video just came out

[@Golasto_]

@@RandomNPC_23 so? I can’t appreciate his hard work?

[@Anakin0217]

@@RandomNPC_23leave the man alone. We don’t need more negativity in the paladins community.

[@mortada566]

Bro predicted the video epicness

[@RandomNPC_23]

@@Anakin0217 lol who cares the game is dead anyway

[@magicmanmarley327]

I really like imani, it just feels like she needs a talent overhaul.

[@crustytoestasty2837]

lmao noticed ur commentator is german. much love from germany 👍

[@lucamaiano862]

I hope hirez watch your video

[@xventus00x70]

She my high level champion. Love playing her but the bugs kill me inside

[@ashzerodude]

I put Imani right next to Tiberius. Sometimes I want to play them and then I remember they're garbage. Tib should leap like buck. Vora, grover should vine like 7. Like just copy and paste the abilities over idc. It would clean up the game so much

[@DemiCape]

I remember when pyromania still did 1k damage, but then they nerfed it? huh? What was the point?

[@alexperez1967]

Imani was my to go damage champ until Betty released.

[@EggMixValid]

As an Imani main most of this is just a skill issue LoL

[@GravityApproaching]

thats why almost all higher elo not play her huh skill issue

[@EggMixValid]

@@GravityApproaching I mean yuh I play her just fine and carry from time to time.

[@GravityApproaching]

​@@EggMixValid gm imani right here everyone is just so silly banning and picking tyra, bk

[@EggMixValid]

@@GravityApproaching I mean not my fault y'll can't play Imani

[@GravityApproaching]

​@@EggMixValid yes sir always amazing thing when "oh this characters is good my source its bcs im good with it, everyone just have skill issue" while evie, atlus, etc have more skill to play and no one said they need buff

[@atari8603]

Her kit is ok just needs some toning and buffs thats all

[@nicht_nice]

Why are some of the come notations not translated in to English but are german😂?

[@blackphoenix9026]

Corvus dagger bug is far worse

[@yabbadabbindude]

Literally got me killed earlier

[@Biznaguinho]

I was a Imani Main. Stopped playing the game just because of these nerfs xDD

[@Terrence551]

I love your videos

[@mrbee8336]

Her kit is outdated

[@tjyearly6569]

Her frost bolts are too slow, past close range they can not hit any characters besides tanks. Making imani have to get close to the enemy to do sustained damage

[@kuirzy2702]

Chicken man

[@doitover]

Imani is a pub stomper

[@starpower1884]

LET TERMINUS CLIMB WALLS

[@yabbadabbindude]

That would be sick

[@mumeinobaka8942]

I love her design but i ddnt like her prew build and dont like her build now all her spells are cool her attacks in both forms are good maybe some dmg buffs. I have problem with her talents theyre shit if youre playing imani youre using both elements so i literaly hate first two talents cuz it should be one Third talent is bad cuz her mana thing isnt for me i vd buch rather deleted mana and added talent that make her like Todoroki where he need to use fire so he dont freeze or ice to cool him self

[@shootingmoons007]

I will always say this they need to rework skye and her entire kit.

[@mattywired1086]

WTF Does Imani's Mana actuallly do ????? It doesnt impact anything about the character and you have just analyzed her but didnt mention that mana effects nothing.

[@sebastianaltamirano4991]

wehn fully, the next shot "buff" the primary fire, with ice stance shoots two ice shrads ttgether and when on fire stance you dont need to charge the fire ball to do full dmg(as i said this only works after one click so its barely noticeble in the match)

[@valorel1982]

you forgot to metion that she has the MOST EXPENSIVE SKIN IN THE ALL GAME!! adn the most awesome too hehehe 😋 And all she need is to fix the bugs, thats all, and she will be realy good P.D: yes its you crying for inferno canon hahahaha(but seriously its you crying abouth it)

[@bluepeppermint3790]

Pointing out the bit about rifle characters, in my opinion those characters just should not exist at all. They're lame, require basically no skill and don't really fit the environment they're in. I say that as a Tyra player btw.

[@tameone]

Why would you compare Imani movement to Evie? Ones a flank and ones a damage. Why would you want a damage moving like a flank? You are simply trying to break champions.

[@AndrewChicken]

I compared frostfire glide to soar because they're both very similar abilities. I don't want Imani to have Evie levels of mobility, but I think Imani could do with some buffs to her turning radius and verticality to make the ability a bit less telegraphed.

[@Mewwnii]

Hard for me to care about Imani when Kasumi is still in the gutter. Clearly EM doesn't care enough to balance characters properly. That won't change anytime soon

[@aydrics272]

First