The Seris Problem. (Paladins)

Despite being one of the most popular champions in the entire game, Seris has been the worst support for a very long time. Despite multiple attempts to fix this character in high elo gameplay, she remains at the bottom of everyone's tier lists. In this video, AndrewChicken analyses what Seris's biggest problems are and how to solve them.
⏰ Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
3:00 - Why Seris is So Popular
4:15 - The Healing Problem
7:42 - The Simultaneity Problem
8:45 - The AOE Problem
10:02 - Problem Summary
10:36 - The Good Parts of Seris
11:33 - The Ultimate Hurdle for Seris
13:41 - Why Internal Torment Fails
16:39 - Why Forsake Isn't the Answer
21:54 - Soul Collector is STILL Her Best Talent
22:28 - How Can We FIX Seris?
27:19 - Put Veil in Base Kit
29:50 - Conclusion
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[@MasterKnight231]

I love how seris ban rate is most likely due to people not wanting their teammates to pick seris

[@Iamslay09]

Yes I am one of those people I always ban Seris if I get the Chance to because she is so bad 😭

[@kevin3132]

She can stay how she is, good for beginners we dont need every support to be meta

[@taco_sensei]

Well said. Not every champion or talent needs to be meta

[@awoooga5857]

Disagree. Every character should be viable, she doesn't have to be meta defining, but she shouldn't be considered a throw pick at any high level imo.

[@Iamslay09]

​@@awoooga5857 exactly

[@xmalin1]

​@@taco_senseiGarbage take lmfao. Every champ should AT LEAST be viable and not be considered a troll pick. Something doesnt have to be meta to be viable

[@The_Taco_Thief]

​@@awoooga5857 she is perfectly viable this guy keeps proving why he is the worst paladins youtuber.

[@TonTon-ez2mc]

Forsake is better, than ppl think. Basically if you don't walk with pressed rmb all the time, you get more healing, because you have, for example, 2 heals in 4 seconds with forsake while with other options you get 2 heals in 6 seconds (sure this falls off the more consecutive heals you use throughout the match, but by doing some math, with chronos you get like 50 more h/s without forsake, not considering the thing, mentioned above). Though it still sucks, seris should have more h/s in her base kit, a lil less cd on forsake (.2 secs would do, id say), mayba a little buff for other stats and a little nerf to her soul collector

[@CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe]

Remove the increased CD from forsake and it would definitely be her meta talent. 90% caut is awful but if they get out of caut that 0.5 second of healing goes to them all uncauterized which full heals them. It's my favorite talent

[@wass.zxö]

Didnt expect andrew to yap about healers for 30 minutes straight

[@kayne_vk]

Please do these deep Math analysis for more champions

[@starsywh7170]

To be fair old talent allows her to be more aggressive with healings and capture points. True her healing was meh still but he has better survival and mobility with old talent

[@mirius4665]

Forsake into base kit and maybe faster but smaller projectiles is enough. She doesn't need anything more than that. It is the other supports that are way too overtuned. Seris herself is already quite a bit overtuned as well, despite being weaker.

[@paulieodrumgod]

So her heal should be from her orb (left hand), and her attack is only for her right hand. Allowing you to do both but requiring downtime to reload. Then rework ammo amount and ammo gen cards.

[@mirius4665]

I dont want Moira from Overwatch in Paladins

[@Redmentoos]

Give her back her talent where her heal is increased but without a time limit. Just increase the subsequent heals. Maybe even make it even in the base kit. It could be like 3% stacks (up to 4?) for 3 heals or maybe just one 10%..? It would synergize with every talent, giving her a bit more skill-based healing and making her base kit a bit more dynamic in many ways. For example, she can get her stacks up until her teammates arrive, making damage and healing more effective afterward. That she has two damage talents I actually like because, while she is the "easy heals," she should have some "gimmick" that makes her more fun/interesting. Having (more or less) only damage talents does exactly that.

[@hassanrizvi9153]

They could make it so that her healing has a heal over time effect.. So that while u are dmging enimes they are getting healed overtime.. not too much healing but buying enough time for her to shoot more

[@hassanrizvi9153]

Like she could heal over 1 sec while channeling for an amount.. and then over .5 sec they get heal lingering effect for an amount

[@tanookidiglett2048]

there is something that ive been saying as someone who plays dmg seris for quite a while. Make rend souls self heal be an aoe heal as well. but instead of being the % of the persons that are being healed health, it heals the percentage of seris health as a flat heal to allies

[@XarronChaos]

Yeah I can see Rend Souls having an AOE heal effect for x amount of HP per orb detonation for allies in range

[@mirius4665]

Seris already has so much stuff, this is just making her kit bloated as heck

[@vi818]

I dont think this is too much of a problem overall. There are plenty of valuable supports and ones who are constantly being changed for meta purposes anyway, Seris should probably stay as a support who is very easy to play and provide value with for beginner players.

[@XarronChaos]

I feel like the other reason Seris ban rate is high due to the fact that people high elo want dive supports like Furia and such. Using Seris 3rd talent kinda makes her a dive support imo since she's letting you and teammates extra damage per orb for a few seconds but that's just my dumb opinion

[@kickpaw]

Support class isnt always about healing, it might be a win condition. No matter how much you heal or damage, if you lose objective - you lose the game

[@Waelleto]

People are obsessed with everything being meta now ? there has never been a time where every champion and talent were meta really, Seris is fine

[@BLACKOUTMENACE100]

My Seris is rank 345 and I've only ever used her as an attack/flank/speed character.

[@pingouuiin]

They keep changing Seris and I never really understood why, because I'm far from competitive play But now I understand, and I personnally love your idea for a new talent !! But now let's talk about a real topic : Pip's combat medic basekit when ???

[@EricNeuls]

i mean couldnt they just lowered the forsake cool down to like 2sec so chronos actually feels good? Or be able to attack while healing? then maybe up her damage. OR why not make soul collector part of her base kit and then make it either do more damage or have more healing to others instead. idk i pick her anyways

[@rhyanvalk7897]

They should just buff forsake

[@lukev9335]

The moji marks idea is not bad but she has to lose the ability to stun. That would be an intresting talent

[@Nine_Guinea_Pigs]

Wish that forsake would be base kit and they could rework all of her talents, and most of her cards aren’t very good, also it’s itto bot not iddo bot :) Mal’Damba needs some slight nerfs he seems a bit too strong right now and wekanos wrath is very annoying but Ying imo is still stronger but she can be somewhat countered so it does seem more fair They NEED to reverse the cauterize buffs too it’s so bad

[@pedroalmeida1506]

The talent where she could heal while in veil was way better than forsake

[@charliewax1794]

Hello sweet dog whatchya doin? whatchya doin?

[@narancia2815]

render soul should heal allies too but less

[@masonlawn8515]

with only 5k players playing daily i'm wondering how "high elo" even looks like lol

[@thegamingninja1656]

you pronounce it "electronic toenail"

[@kayne_vk]

What about double healer comps

[@Iamslay09]

Well yes she is def better as an off Support espacially paired with Rei for a lot of ult Charge so that equals more crowd control and therefore more opportunities to kill the enemy and that would also force them to buy umbound. But double Support is by any means no meta. It can work but its situational

[@kayne_vk]

@@Iamslay09 Nice to know, thank you for the detailes explaination

[@sagreroart1090]

I completely dissagree. This is not a Seris problem. Actually what the ideal ballance aims for is to get that perfect 50% win rate, so having Seris touching 50 across the board means SHE IS THE BALLANCED support while all those in 60% are SUPER BROKEN. What you actually need to do is NERF all of them, aiming to have them where Seris is.

[@D_ND_H]

That would mean that having a healer on your team is the same as not having a healer on your team.

[@sladevalen2120]

Ill be honest i wouldnt be against doing a class rework for her and make her a carry. The only thing she does as a healer is right click. Nothing else ties her to the role, so if you change the right click she could just become a carry instead of a low value support.

[@Cryptisss]

She is easy but not the best at all for new players. I legit got better io beginners than seris. Is the players of that champ, they are very questionable.

[@abdulahiabukar1231]

sad.

[@Mymysenpaii]

I was here first😀