Finding the Greens Function of d^2/dx^2

  Рет қаралды 74,141

Andrew Dotson

Andrew Dotson

Күн бұрын

Today I go over an example of finding the greens function for the operator d^2/dx^2 with boundary conditions f(0)=f(pi)=0
Interested in skype tutoring? Check out:
dotsontutoring.simplybook.me

Пікірлер: 112
@ObserverAndObserved
@ObserverAndObserved 4 жыл бұрын
no BS. no beating around the bush. he cuts to the chase and just tutors. fucking lovely mate.
@yagokf540
@yagokf540 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew, this quick video has done much more for my understanding of Green’s function than my professor was able to do in 3 weeks. Thank you for the great content.
@ceroorec2153
@ceroorec2153 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot explain what an oasis this video was for me in a desert of frustration. Thank you for providing just a simple, clear example with only the necessary information. I finally feel like I have some scaffolding to understand these in general.
@sinaelb2596
@sinaelb2596 4 жыл бұрын
Oh mein Gott! Thank you so much! So far no one has properly showed how the Green function actually workes within a problem, but thanks to your two videos I've finally understood.
@mathunt1130
@mathunt1130 2 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent introduction to Green's functions. The example chosen was simply enough to makes the ideas shine through. This is basically the method for calculating Greens functions for all cases. When you have infinite domains you can use transforms to get the Greens function but the added pain is obtaining the inverse transform from the transformed Green's function.
@willnotsmith5058
@willnotsmith5058 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained, it appeared so easy here, while in class, I struggled to understand this. Thanks.
@beez7528
@beez7528 6 жыл бұрын
I looked up greens function on accident....... I’m not disappointed (Nice video)
@AlchemistOfNirnroot
@AlchemistOfNirnroot 6 жыл бұрын
Did you mean to search Green's Theorem? considering you said it was an "accident".
@stephaniehowell5601
@stephaniehowell5601 2 жыл бұрын
I've spent the last hour or so searching through video after video about Green's functions and this was by far the best one! Thank you so much!
@annakinderman8135
@annakinderman8135 Ай бұрын
Currently studying for a first grad E&M final. Thank you for this video!
@Ensivion
@Ensivion 6 жыл бұрын
I'm currently trying to get my head around actually using these Greens functions and I'd like to see you do an example of a Neumann/Dirichlet boundary valued problem to solve for a potential.
@zinzhao8231
@zinzhao8231 2 жыл бұрын
how is it going with physics?
@mirzaammar3815
@mirzaammar3815 10 ай бұрын
​@@zinzhao8231not good
@theunicornbay4286
@theunicornbay4286 10 ай бұрын
​@zinzhao8231 He failed lol
@Ensivion
@Ensivion 10 ай бұрын
@@theunicornbay4286ouch
@KyleKabasares_PhD
@KyleKabasares_PhD 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome example! I know it was a rather simple case, but that made me feel way more confident about tackling Green’s function problems in the future!
@CooperNicolaysen
@CooperNicolaysen 6 жыл бұрын
You inspired me! I'm now doing tutoring up to Diff EQ and I've already got a reoccuring client. I'm really excited.
@TIENTI0000
@TIENTI0000 6 ай бұрын
great, this is the best explanation that I have ever seen
@joecoker7632
@joecoker7632 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this. Your explanation was clear and your manner was very kind, which I greatly appreciated as someone who has to ask for a lot of help. If you aren't a teacher or a professor, you would make an excellent one.
@MuhammadWaleed-f6n
@MuhammadWaleed-f6n 9 ай бұрын
Weldone mate. You make it sound so easy. Infact you made it easy
@sahdemattos
@sahdemattos Жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation ! It helped me in my mid term. Kind regards
@possiblepilotdeviation5791
@possiblepilotdeviation5791 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew!! I'm doing my Math Methods HW right now on GF, and you are much clearer than my text. Appreciate it!
@samapanbhadury5148
@samapanbhadury5148 4 жыл бұрын
very very nice presentation. I also liked how you started explaining about the Green's function using matrix inversion method to solve for vector equations.
@debajyotisg
@debajyotisg 5 жыл бұрын
1:31 For those interested, the Green's function may be understood like so: If you have a differential equation of form D | f > = | p > ; where D is a differential operator (in this video, Andrew chooses d^2/dx^2) then you can write | f > = D^-1 | p > + Sum( ci | hi >); where D^-1, if it exists if the inverse of the operator D, and |hi> are the such that D |hi> = 0, which are the solution for the homogenous equation D | f > = 0. Then in a standard x basis, < x | f > = < x | D^-1 | x' > is your Green's function. (Propagator for the QFT fans)
@vicen1090
@vicen1090 3 жыл бұрын
Clear and concise, perfect for my exam! ty ty
@peteyoung3124
@peteyoung3124 5 жыл бұрын
So glad you made this video. I had to miss a makeup lecture from my professor on the day he taught this and his notes were so hard to follow
@AlokmayDatta
@AlokmayDatta 2 жыл бұрын
This is the thing I was looking for! Great 👍 👌
@ianprado1488
@ianprado1488 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, Green's function is an incredibly clever to solve DiffEqs
@ritikpal1491
@ritikpal1491 4 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial. It gave a good idea of how i can find green's function.
@bhoopendragupta4782
@bhoopendragupta4782 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation, now it looks easy😎
@nanocount09
@nanocount09 6 жыл бұрын
This was amazing! Can you please make another video where you find the Green's function for another operator? Or perhaps one with different boundary conditions. Thank you so much for this video, the explanation was super clear.
@VineyKumar
@VineyKumar 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! This really helped me understand Green's functions.
@學習中的哈密瓜
@學習中的哈密瓜 Жыл бұрын
really appreciate and enjoy your video 🎉
@Musiclover5258
@Musiclover5258 11 ай бұрын
Excellent description, thank you!
@Vcoja
@Vcoja 9 ай бұрын
youre the best ting that has happened in the history of the universe after popeyes
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad that you're not undervaluing popeyes
@Sherlock14-d6x
@Sherlock14-d6x 9 ай бұрын
Love your energy!
@amograo3347
@amograo3347 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, it helped us a lot!
@seoktaelee1329
@seoktaelee1329 5 жыл бұрын
good job ! It's a clear-cut summarizing
@antejurcevic5855
@antejurcevic5855 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Andrew, Thx for this great tutorial. I have only one question. Can you tell me how to integrate this Green's function now, are the limits of integral from 0 to 1, and do I need to split integral into two parts?
@bairrao1303
@bairrao1303 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video but why does G satisfy the same boundary conditions as f?
@srijanraghunath4642
@srijanraghunath4642 4 жыл бұрын
f=G when p=dirac delta. Therefore, it makes sense that the boundary conditions are the same because when p=dirac delta both G and f are the same. We're not making any assumptions either because the whole point is to go back and generalize for all p(x) after we find G. We just make p=dirac delta for just a moment so we can solve for G
@maxguichard4337
@maxguichard4337 3 жыл бұрын
In this case in particular I would assume it's because in the boundary conditions f(x) = 0, so if f(x) = integral of G(x, y) * P(x)dx, at the boundary conditions that integral also needs to be 0, meaning the inner part G(x, y) * P(x) also has to be 0. Since P(x) is general and is not necessarily 0, then G(x, y) must be 0 at the boundary conditions as well. I realize this comment is old, however I hope this helps anyone else wondering the same thing.
@supreethbhaskar3405
@supreethbhaskar3405 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxguichard4337 you can't use this argument when f(x) = pi
@demr04
@demr04 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man. You save me alot :)
@kateleaver9009
@kateleaver9009 6 жыл бұрын
I am so thankful for this video! Thank you so much :)
@davkynaj
@davkynaj 6 жыл бұрын
The first whiteboard video from you that i actually understood quite well. Don't worry, it has nothing to do with your explaining abilities, I'm sure, and everything to do with me still being in highschool :D
@pacolibre5411
@pacolibre5411 Жыл бұрын
A good “exercise for the viewer” is to integrate the Green’s function over 0 to pi for your choice of function (say, x^2) to verify that your answer is a second antiderivative of your function that satisfies the boundary conditions.
@NakintuLazia-mu1sj
@NakintuLazia-mu1sj 8 ай бұрын
Is it possible to calculate the Green's function for the Poisson's equation for Newtonian gravity
@kendytan91
@kendytan91 6 жыл бұрын
I dont quite understand why is the boundary conditions of f applicable/ equivalent to G. Or did I interpreted it wrongly?
@srijanraghunath4642
@srijanraghunath4642 4 жыл бұрын
f=G when p=dirac delta. Therefore, it makes sense that the boundary conditions are the same because when p=dirac delta both G and f are the same. We're not making any assumptions either because the whole point is to go back and generalize for all p(x) after we find G. We just make p=dirac delta because thats when f=G. Then we can solve for G and then f.
@edwardhartz1029
@edwardhartz1029 3 жыл бұрын
@@srijanraghunath4642 Thank you for that intuitive explanation 🙏
@jackhill4445
@jackhill4445 3 жыл бұрын
From the definition of the Green's function, f(x) = \int G(x, y) p(y) dy, if we impose f(0) = 0 that means \int G(0, y) p(y) dy = 0. The only way to guarantee that this is always true for any definition of p(y) is to set G(0, y) = 0. Hence, f(0) = G(0, y) = 0 and so f and G have the same boundary condition. The same method also applies to f(pi) = 0.
@tuo9433
@tuo9433 Ай бұрын
@@jackhill4445 What if the boundary conditions is non-zeros? Let say it is some constant c?
@ur_khaan
@ur_khaan 2 жыл бұрын
hey andrew great video, i have a question, let's say i know the homogenous solution do i still need the observation point (y) in your case, as for my case my function is not discontinuous so where do i use the point y if it is the case. thank you
@s.g.johnson3403
@s.g.johnson3403 6 жыл бұрын
Did you live at home for undergrad? If so, can you do a video on what it was like adjusting to living away from home for grad school?
@misnufkin1
@misnufkin1 Жыл бұрын
‏‪2:39‬‏ can you please explain why is it equal to the delta function?
@user-pb8yw8cw3s
@user-pb8yw8cw3s Жыл бұрын
There's a missing piece which is 1 for x=y Nice presentation dude !
@pradyutmukherjee1110
@pradyutmukherjee1110 4 жыл бұрын
My question is what is the value of G(x,x') at x=x' ? If it is continuous then why not defined at x=x'?
@stanleychan3212
@stanleychan3212 3 жыл бұрын
In general, the Green function satisfies the differential equation only in the distributional sense, it doesn't have to be defined everywhere. Moreover, many differential equations don't even have Green function.
@christophas
@christophas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this awesome introduction! However, I have one question. As you wrote, for a Green function ÔG(x,y) = 𝛿(x-y) must hold true. However, I do not really know how to derive 𝛿(x-y) from a piecewise defined function…? As someone who doesn’t really care about rigor, I would rewrite the piecewise definition using Heaviside step functions H(x -y), as their derivative is 𝛿(x-y). However I would like to know, if this is a proper method. Furthermore, using such an procedure would render G(y,y) being defined, contrary to the G given in your video.
@stevedelchamps5113
@stevedelchamps5113 4 жыл бұрын
Great video; great lecture style. The only thing I would say is, try to learn to stand a little more to your right as you write on the board. It's tricky at first, but it will help your viewers see the stuff emerge as you speak.
@amerkhoury8034
@amerkhoury8034 3 жыл бұрын
Why could we substitute the boundary values of f(x) in the greens function tho..??
@abhinavsaket1194
@abhinavsaket1194 9 ай бұрын
Good video.
@HotsumaSadamoto
@HotsumaSadamoto 5 жыл бұрын
Should there be a factor of 2 floating around somewhere to make it so when you operate on your solution you get the delta function? I'm reading about Greens fxn's now and am a bit confused on that part.
@micayahritchie7158
@micayahritchie7158 6 жыл бұрын
How exactly would one find the solution for a specific p(x) using this function?
@stefanopastore8886
@stefanopastore8886 6 жыл бұрын
Micayah Ritchie Yoy just integrate for y going from 0 to pi G(x, y)*p(y)dy and you get your solution
@yuma5297
@yuma5297 5 жыл бұрын
isnt it easier to Fourier Transform ÔG = delta(x-y) ?
@barzipori4238
@barzipori4238 4 жыл бұрын
A great video.
@kierkegaard54
@kierkegaard54 7 ай бұрын
Why isn't G(x, y) defined at x=y? is it because of the delta? like if u were to define G at x=y then the second derivative with respect to x, it blows to infinity
@LakanBanwa
@LakanBanwa 5 жыл бұрын
But why is the integral of the dirac delta from the right and left of y equal to 1?(The real reason I'm presuming that tells us why we should set the difference of the derivative of the green's function at the same locations equal to 1)
@timurpryadilin8830
@timurpryadilin8830 3 жыл бұрын
for this specific example can't we just integrate p(x) twice to get the result?
@staticnullhazard6966
@staticnullhazard6966 3 жыл бұрын
Well yeah if your right hand side is just some easy function (polynomial) but if it is some distribution of Diracs -which is very common in physics- it isn't that simple. Therefore it is quite useful to know Green functions.
@carlosalbertomorgancruz2247
@carlosalbertomorgancruz2247 4 жыл бұрын
Bien explicado. Gracias
@maazadnan117
@maazadnan117 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro.
@cesarmoreno987y
@cesarmoreno987y 28 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@markopolo6104
@markopolo6104 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@davinhocpinho
@davinhocpinho 10 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@nocontent3124
@nocontent3124 4 жыл бұрын
Greens functions replace solving a hard problem with creating an even harder problem which you then have to solve in order to solve an easier problem which is made harder by solving a Green's function etc, QED and a Kronecker delta. Hence just just learn MATLAB and problems become not problems ie problem solved.
@mokrodrigues4515
@mokrodrigues4515 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@quahntasy
@quahntasy 6 жыл бұрын
200th video will be live of him studying
@deeptochatterjee532
@deeptochatterjee532 6 жыл бұрын
Why does the Dirac Delta have x--1 in it?
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 6 жыл бұрын
Deepto Chatterjee I guess my y’s look like -1’s
@deeptochatterjee532
@deeptochatterjee532 6 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewDotsonvideos oh ok that makes more sense
@timonph7073
@timonph7073 5 жыл бұрын
What does the d in d^2/dx^2 mean?
@violymhi
@violymhi 5 жыл бұрын
Differentiate I guess? The d^2/dx^2 as a whole is just a way of saying that we're taking the second derivative with respect to x
@loganfisher3138
@loganfisher3138 3 жыл бұрын
Not offering tutoring services anymore? Your link is dead.
@bintekhadam6776
@bintekhadam6776 4 жыл бұрын
Excuse me! Sir.... Kindly solve greens function for laplace equation in partial differential equation for non-homogeneous equation
@josecarlospesa
@josecarlospesa 2 жыл бұрын
Is really unfair that you are clever and handsome
@urosgrandovec3409
@urosgrandovec3409 4 жыл бұрын
awesome
@AlchemistOfNirnroot
@AlchemistOfNirnroot 6 жыл бұрын
200th video should be campus tour!!!
@duncanw9901
@duncanw9901 6 жыл бұрын
Zeroeth view!
@zoltankurti
@zoltankurti 6 жыл бұрын
Impodsible, since the first view is the first view :D
@ゾカリクゾ
@ゾカリクゾ 6 жыл бұрын
he never said he was the first view. He's the zeroth view. Deal with it.
@AlchemistOfNirnroot
@AlchemistOfNirnroot 6 жыл бұрын
Views exist? Thermodynamics**
@markopolo6104
@markopolo6104 4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@mathlover2299
@mathlover2299 5 жыл бұрын
It's Green function by the way.
@danielrejat3370
@danielrejat3370 6 жыл бұрын
That moment when you start watching, understand a bit, a minute goes by you understand almost nothing. What do i watching this even though i am a highschool student
@Gurke76_56
@Gurke76_56 Жыл бұрын
Your underlined ONE looks like a TWO, thats really irritating
@lvl3tensorboi929
@lvl3tensorboi929 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you just use the look-up table for that integral?! lol
@Muuumenn
@Muuumenn 4 жыл бұрын
what
@ianprado1488
@ianprado1488 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, People who understand physics are cursed. If you research molten salt cooled reactors (FHRs, MSRs, etc), you will understand that this is *the technology* that can reverse climate change and end poverty. Ian
@Legend_Hunter_Original
@Legend_Hunter_Original 6 жыл бұрын
curse is a matter of perspective, you could also view yourself to be blessed because you have the 'knowledge' to solve the mentioned problems.
@oskarjung6738
@oskarjung6738 3 жыл бұрын
It's weird, this function is not even differentiable in it's domain. Then how can it be a solution to a differential equation. These things really tick me off in physics. I guess physics is not my cup of tea.
@AndrewDotsonvideos
@AndrewDotsonvideos 3 жыл бұрын
Greens functions are not just used in physics, they can be rigorously defined. You have issue with them not being differentiable at all points, that's an artifact from the delta function source term that defines the greens function. They're no less rigorous than a delta function and there's the entire theory of generalized functions for those.
@telotawa
@telotawa 5 жыл бұрын
it feels like bullshit idk
@jayjayf9699
@jayjayf9699 4 жыл бұрын
It would be good if you improved your handwriting as it looks like a 5 year old wrote that y
@hasanhashemi4504
@hasanhashemi4504 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent
Green's functions, Delta functions and distribution theory
27:17
Nathan Kutz
Рет қаралды 48 М.
Don’t Choose The Wrong Box 😱
00:41
Topper Guild
Рет қаралды 62 МЛН
coco在求救? #小丑 #天使 #shorts
00:29
好人小丑
Рет қаралды 120 МЛН
Intuition for Greens Functions
9:51
Andrew Dotson
Рет қаралды 84 М.
Deriving The Dirac Equation
23:40
Andrew Dotson
Рет қаралды 140 М.
Mod-09 Lec-23 Fundamental Green function for Δ2(Part I)
42:52
Lessons Learned During My PhD So Far
13:05
Andrew Dotson
Рет қаралды 158 М.
Deriving The Feynman Path Integral Part 1
12:21
Andrew Dotson
Рет қаралды 68 М.
Green's functions: the genius way to solve DEs
22:52
Mathemaniac
Рет қаралды 662 М.
How To Derive The Hamiltonian From The Lagrangian Like a Normie
9:15
Physics Students Need to Know These 5 Methods for Differential Equations
30:36
Physics with Elliot
Рет қаралды 1,1 МЛН
Laplace's Equation and Poisson's Equation
17:55
Steve Brunton
Рет қаралды 71 М.
L21.3 Integral equation for scattering and Green's function
30:27
MIT OpenCourseWare
Рет қаралды 39 М.
Don’t Choose The Wrong Box 😱
00:41
Topper Guild
Рет қаралды 62 МЛН