#IsItBullshit

[@AndrewFolts]

2021 update: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3OwpoCfgZaNbcU transition guide: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2OnaHWLhKaYbsk zero-drop shoes: www.notion.so/Zero-Drop-Transition-Shoes-e0b1267eed1646128436ed4194a5dbd3

[@tedallison6112]

20,000 miles completely barefoot w only casualties being-----2 bee stings & a lot of runners seeing my back!(haha)

[@AndrewFolts]

Nice! "seeing my back" Know what you mean. I've been running completely barefoot this year, mostly slow because I have spicy joints from an autoimmune issue, but whenever I hear a cushion runner coming up on me ("clomp, clomp, clomp"), I always take off, and it's so much fun to see the looks of disbelief if I run by them on the way back, ha!

[@krissifadwa]

@@AndrewFolts Haha "chomp, chomp, chomp" too true. That's really what you hear with the heftier outsoles

[@humberton2306]

I just bought my first set of minimalist shoes. They are the Xero Z trial sandals. I haven't done any long running or hiking yet but I love them already. My feet and muscles literally thanked me. I'll never go back to regular sandals again. Now I'm looking forward to more minimalist shoes, primarily looking into work/dress shoes. Vivobarefoot shoes are in my scopes. Thanks for the video.

[@AndrewFolts]

Yup, Xeros are awesome. They're rated for something like 1,000 miles. Crazy, but I believe it! One piece of advice I can offer is that the Xeros didn't work well on concrete or for road running. They're 5mm thick, and while the Vivos are only 2mm thinner, it makes a HUGE difference in terms of your feet "understanding" the surface they're on. I prefer the Vivos for road running and city walking because my feet get sore in the Xeros. Cheers!

[@recyclinggremlin6827]

This is the type of video quality I’d expect from a KZbin with hundreds of thousands subscribers! Great video :o) Thank you for putting your time into such an informational video ! recently bought my first pair of barefoot shoes and considering changing all my shoes to them ! As a non-runner , I’d totally advise anyone to still get a pair , your feet will thank you :o)

[@AndrewFolts]

Haha, thank you. So excited for you getting your first pair. It's like leaving The Matrix of footwear! (:

[@etiennegarceau]

Think what really happens when you go barefoot, in all due respect to its religion, is that runners who start going barefoot need to slow down and be more careful. Which in most cases is the reason why they were injured before (too fast, too many miles, not enough recovery). It is good to go barefoot, as good as it is to be religious and being kind to people around you because of it.

[@AndrewFolts]

Yea, I suppose it's a bit like martial arts-you learn a deeper respect for your body and how it interacts with different forces. Can't speak for others, but I was never able to stay healthy in cushion shoes, even when I slowed down and started running forefoot. I was just missing the connection with the ground, ya know? My feet couldn't protect me blindfolded.

[@treeman5590]

I just bought my first pair of primus trail firm grounders, and my feet couldn't feel better. I feel when using weights, especially in compound lifts it feels more secure, you get direct feed back from your feet being able to plant better, being more stable. Forefoot running is the natural way humans evolved to run, when your shoes are made to fit your feet, not molding them into a shoe, you get to utilize the full potential of your feet.

[@AndrewFolts]

I used to do 400-500 leg presses at the gym, and when I got my Primus Lites, I remember thinking: "There is NO WAY I can do that much weight without padding." But then I did-and I realized that padded shoes were the culprit of my planar fasciitis symptoms. My feet were sinking into cushion! It sounds counterintuitive, but it's true, what you say: less shoe = more stable.

[@rubencohen2936]

Everyone should watch the long version video on KZbin called SHOE CONSPIRACY. It describes everything wrong with conventional shoes. Barefoot or minimalist shoes are the way to improve so much naturally. Your feet will love you. 👣 ♥️ 👍

[@AndrewFolts]

Hard to believe cushioned running shoes are still around. Should have been a one -and-done fad. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpDVdXmXa9CNnKs

[@Alagachak]

Recently started using 5-toe-socks. It felt really weird. But I think my feet are abit happier. Gonna try barefoot running to, I like running. Lets see if I can do 20min 5k runs by the end of summer eh =)

[@AndrewFolts]

Ha, I know. Injinji socks freaked me out the first time, but not I love 'em. Good luck on the 5k's! (:

[@alancox3739]

Been wearing Merrell Trail Gloves and Vapor Gloves for several years. Nothing against the Vivos but found the Merrell first and never looked back.

[@AndrewFolts]

Yea, liked the feel of the Vapor Glove when I tried it on once! Should look into that again for winter. If you're doing roads or light trails (no steep hills), the Vivo Primus Lite would be worth a try because it's only 3mm-so totally different experience than a 6.5mm Merrill or 8mm Vivo. My fav for summertime trails is the Vibram FiveFingers V-Trek, which is only 4mm, but still has traction and durability.

[@giovanbattistafichera8439]

I found the Trail Gloves push a little against the arch of the foot (not the vapor gloves). Do you have the same experience?

[@AndrewFolts]

@@giovanbattistafichera8439 Yep, I remember trying the trail gloves on while I was working run specialty and not liking them. Vapor Gloves were much better (at least the version I tried).

[@alancox3739]

@@giovanbattistafichera8439 No, not in my case. Have a medium to high arch from actual barefoot 2-3 times per week for several years

[@timotialban2688]

Bro surprise to find your transition video you've come along way.

[@AndrewFolts]

Ha, yea, it's funny to look back on this video and think "here's where it all started" in my mom's living room with an out of focus camera and janky audio. (:

[@Smellysammich]

Make sure you don’t stand with your knees locked, biggest habit to kick

[@AndrewFolts]

Why stand when you can walk? Why walk when you can run? (:

[@rogerthat9869]

Why is that?

[@Andy-ss8yg]

@@rogerthat9869 puts tension on your joints rather than your muscles. I had really bad knee pain, doctor said there’s no problem, I looked in a mirror and thought ”why am I standing like this” never had pain since

[@andywilson9786]

great video, I have some Xero shoes and sandals, this video helped me pull the trigger on my first pair of Vivobarefoots :)

[@AndrewFolts]

Nice! Yea, I like my Xero sandals, but Vivo's are a whole 1.5mm thinner, and it makes a huge difference in flexibility and sensitivity. Enjoy!

[@rubencohen2936]

Once you make the change into barefoot minimalist shoes for everyday use you will never go back to hard shoes again. Everything you said is true about feet getting stronger, core balance, knee and back pain gone. Look into another company called LEMS shoes also. Feet first ! 👣 👍 🏳️‍🌈

[@AndrewFolts]

Haven't tried LEMS, but have heard good things.

[@rubencohen2936]

@@AndrewFolts I suggest the LEMS PRIMAL 2. It's a great shoe for everyday walking or standing 8 hours at work. Breathable mesh on top & sides cool toes. Wide toe box to comfortably stretch out in. These things are well made going on over 2 years now. I hand wash mine also when they need it. Removable inserts can be purchase from LEMS also. 👣 🤓

[@420JCI]

I’ve changed to barefoot because of a Morton’s neuroma under my right foot. I didn’t find the Lems to be wide enough and the same goes for Groundies, which btw are really cool shoes. Another cool brand is Wildlings - they’re clearly the most minimalist shoes I own, and suddenly Vivo seems kind of clunky if that’s a word at all 😉

[@AndrewFolts]

@@420JCI Groundies look interesting, hadn't heard of them. Been wanting to try Wildings, too. The only Vivo shoe I wear is the Primus Lite because it's 3mm like the Wildings. Anything beyond that does feel clunky. If you want super wide, try the Vibram FiveFingers V-Trek. I use them for trail running sometimes, and they're so wide, I have to synch the upper so that both eyelets are touching!

[@420JCI]

@@AndrewFolts yes the 5-fingers do the trick if you want them wide - the v-trek looks nice. I would’ve kept all 3 pair of groundies, if it wasn’t for the neuroma. I’m using 41 so my wildlings outsoles are only 2,5mm. Really like my Sábio in sage green.

[@htfcm]

I think I would LOVE vivobarefoot shoes. They look the best but they are so damn expensive.

[@AndrewFolts]

VivoBarefoot: $150 / 3 years = $4/mo Cushion Shoe: $130 / 3 months = $43/mo :)

[@barefootshoeguy]

I've read born to run a few times now. Eye opening!

[@AndrewFolts]

Eye-opening and foot-widening! (:

[@randygeyer4730]

Try Vibram V-Alpha. The build and materials are amazing. Great traction on wet/icy surfaces. Super thin and lightweight giving you lots of feel under the foot. Their trail shoes are pretty clunky.

[@AndrewFolts]

The traction on the V-Trek was fine for me. I actually ended up using more after this video, but any Vibram shoe becomes a problem in the winter with icy water coming straight in through the toes, so I use them mostly in the summer.

[@randygeyer4730]

@@AndrewFolts I find wool socks can make the wet and cold more tolerable. I consciously try to avoid deep puddles

[@fabianirsara9846]

11:40 some of the best marathon times were run barefoot. the shorter, sprintier distances probably rely on better tools than just feet tho, yes

[@AndrewFolts]

Yea, should have specified-by "fast," I meant the track distances. I ran a 60s 400m barefoot one time, and it was brutal. Took my feet a whole week to heal!

[@fabianirsara9846]

@@AndrewFolts haha daium. Yeah well that’s actually a thing I love about going more minimal. It kinda forces you to slow down and be more mindful instead of just crushing into a downhill and have the shoes absorb all the force. (Speaking of trail running)

[@AndrewFolts]

@@fabianirsara9846 For sure! It's like learning a new language vs just using Google Translate.

[@fabianirsara9846]

@@AndrewFolts That's a very interesting metaphor haha, I'll keep that in mind

[@teeoconnell8716]

Hi Andrew! I'm glad i came across your channel. I started wearing barefoot shoes with no transition period a few years ago and never got comfortable with them so i started wearing Altras but i miss the joy of sensory feedback and natural gait that i got from the barefoot shoes, Vivos in particular. So now i'm wanting to give myself the transition that i didn't before and your channel is super duper helpful, so thank you :) Btw it's really interesting what a difference in feedback there is between the Xero Prio and my old Vivo Motus. The Vivos are way more sensory-rich. I have some questions i'm hoping you could answer; Can barefoot shoes help to strengthen an ankle that's been weakened from rolling it? And you mentioned the Vanish R in another video. It looks like a good transition shoe and i'm wondering if i should order my usual size? Lastly, is there a Vivo model that you'd recommend for hiking in the mountains? I see that you're a fan of the Primus Lite. Have you hiked in them?

[@AndrewFolts]

Hey Tim! Interestingly, walking/running barefoot (in moderation) is the best medicine for a rolled ankle because cushioned shoes are higher off the ground, which make them tippy...precisely what you'd want to avoid with an injured ankle. I've "turned" my ankle so many times running in barefoot shoes, but I never get injured because I'm so close to the ground, there's no tipping point. I have hiked in the Primus Lite, and it works fine for trails and boulders, but I think it might get chewed up on more technical terrain (like loose rocks). For serious hiking, I use the Vivo Primus Trek's. They're 6.5mm, which is a little thicker than I like, but still pretty good. (: -Andrew

[@teeoconnell8716]

@@AndrewFolts Thanks! I haven't rolled it in a while but it's something i need to look out for and strengthen so i'm glad to hear that the Primus Treks have worked well for you on trail, since i'm planning to do lots of woodsy explorations this summer. :)

[@karimgreen8732]

8:54 | crazy how much more expensive their shoes are now. From $130 to $170 these days… and the Primus Lites look exactly the same 4 years later.

[@AndrewFolts]

Yea, that's branding for you, ha. Although, to be fair, some of it is that the supply chain is still all f'd up from the pandemic and Russian stuff.

[@Zandertheduck]

I did a 1 hour 27 minute half-marathon barefoot so yeah, you can race in them. It would be interesting to hear an elite runner’s perspective though.

[@AndrewFolts]

Check out the channel "Soles Journey." She's a former olympian who runs barefoot. Super funny also! kzbin.info/door/4tmB8a230FlwQ3JuPstEmAvideos

[@debluongo8554]

Hi Andrew, I’m overwhelmed with all this information and watching your videos. I walk, I don’t run. I walk at least an hour a day and have been wearing the Brooke’s Gylcerin with an orthopedic insert and changing them about every three months. I’ve developed severe plantar fasciitis. I’m not understanding how I should be changing my stride and what I should be wearing on my feet now as well as I start to see improvement. Chiropractor had suggested a wedge type shoe which has helped with the heel pain, but unable to even go for short walks. I’m icing and massaging foot and doing stretching exercises because I’ve developed knee, hip and back pain. Howwould you proceed. Don’t know if I’m a candidate for these shoes with no support. Thanks. Debbie

[@AndrewFolts]

Hi Deb, sorry to hear that. PF is no fun. Like most things in life, the best solution is the simplest. The more inserts, wedges, and cushion you put under your feet the more likely you are to worsen your existing problems. What I would do is just start spending five minutes per day walking barefoot around the house (if you aren't already doing so). Scale up gradually to never wearing shoes/inserts indoors, and when that feels comfortable, buy a pair of thin 3mm barefoot shoes and repeat the process outdoors. In terns of stride, the best thing to do is keep your stride short and focus on landing smoothly (not clunking down). Check the stride footage in my "Zero-Drop Transition" video. Practicing barefoot will greatly help with this. Within six months to a year, your feet will get stronger, and you'll no longer need to waste money on cushion shoes, inserts, or anything else. I've been PF free for over six years now, so it works. Last tip, you can take some "magnesium glycinate," which relaxes the muscles and helps with PF. Hope you feel better soon!

[@coolissimo69]

Andrew I would love to watch you teaching how to walk, how to put the foot on the floor, and how to push , etc. In detail. Thanks

[@AndrewFolts]

Hey, I have some footage for just that in my zero-drop video. Check the "Form" section. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2OnaHWLhKaYbsk

[@jacobwitt2070]

My only concern with barefoot running shoes is that rocks or sharp pebbles that I'd be running on. I feel like that would be quite painful. I'm a big Kinvara fan, and I keep a pair of Clifton's for my days where I'm either a.) Running a further distance than normal or b.) Had some consecutive hard workouts and my legs are tired.

[@AndrewFolts]

Kinvara's a great cushion shoe! That was my second-favorite when I was working run specialty. I don't find rocks to be painful at all now because I've built up some callus on my feet. You also learn how to react quickly and shift your weight off your foot when you feel a rock. I sort of use this collapsing motion. In 3,000 miles of running with a 3mm barefoot shoe, I've yet to get a single bruise or cut. Generally, I step on maybe 1-2 bigger rocks per run, but even when there is pain, it's gone in a matter of seconds.

[@Martin-oz6lr]

Vivobarefoot are brilliant and rubbish all at once. Mine started falling apart quite quickly but they were amazingly comfortable. My big toenails went through the mesh, they need more rubber in that area. Thanks for the upload 👍

[@AndrewFolts]

Yea, there's no perfect shoe for everyone. Never had any issues with my Primus Lite's and they're still going at 3,000+ miles. But then again, I've had other shoes fall apart after 300 miles, so it's a matter of fit, I guess.

[@rashb3994]

Great details, and the part that will be most beneficial for the bare-curious (lol) is all the ailments that go away as you wear them and transition. Until I switched over I thought all the different leg and feet ailments were a permanent getting older thing, little did I know it was all self caused from high drop super cush shoes. Thanks for the plantar fasciitis bit, I may show my sister in law this just because she has it and you're a testimony that barefoot helps. For an affordable pairs, for $30 bucks on Amazon there is the TSLA Trail Running shoes. It's an immitation of the Merrell Glove but to me looks better on foot. I actually like it better than the real one. It's a great feeling barefoot shoe once it breaks in and conforms to your foot. Lastly, Amazon has more under $50 barefoot no name durable ones, but as you said can be clunkier. A lot water shoes are even cheaper like $10 - $20 and are great for just walking. Thanks for your sharing your views on the experience!

[@AndrewFolts]

Ha, "bare-curious." Love it! Yea, plantar fasciitis is no joke, and unfortunately a lot of the running customers I helped were trying to treat it with more cushion, which is the absolute worst thing you can do! Inserts, also, can help to briefly alleviate the pain, but then they make your arches weaker, which requires a more and more "built up" insert. My Dad's arches are flat as a pancake from years of wearing stiff orthotics, and it's really sad. VivoBarefoot has some clearance options, usually, and they can get down to $90-100, which is not a bad deal for a shoe that lasts 3,000+ miles, like my Primus Lite's have. Cheers!

[@kristinkelly8862]

Great video! If you haven't tried SoftStar shoes and moccasins you really should, they are amazing!

[@AndrewFolts]

Thanks, yea been eyeing those! Mabye this summer, we shall see! (:

[@kristinkelly8862]

@@AndrewFolts AHH! If you live the barefoot lifestyle even when not running, you'd be hard pressed to not fall in love. I've just transitioned in the past couple of months, I don't run but I live on a little horse farm in the Rocky Mountains and I love the grounding aspect of having just a thin leather sole so I mostly live in the Soft Star Roos around the house and outside even at the barn when there isnt snow but I need to add a thin rubber sole when I'm out hiking on the rocky trails. I am eagerly awaiting my Softstar Phoenix winter boots and after seeing you and so many other barefoot/minimalist runners recommend the Vevos I think those are next on my list.

[@markm2872]

Hey Andrew. Your vids are the BEST! But, what was that schmutz on the bottom of that Vibrum FiveFinger? Gum? Asking for a friend of a friend...

[@AndrewFolts]

Ha, thanks, Mark! I have no idea. Vibram's tend to attract all sorts of schmutz. Two years later, whatever it was seems to have worked its way out. (:

[@markm2872]

@@AndrewFolts haha! I'm certainly not knocking ya! Plus, thanks to your advice, grabbed my first pair of Xeroshoes yesterday, can't wait to muddy 'em up! Tho, this "new to me running style" certainly does take a bit a adjusting. I'm getting there!

[@AndrewFolts]

@@markm2872 Nice! Yea, just take it slow at first, and you'll have a blast with the Xero's and beyond.

[@ryanthompson3446]

The premise is bizzare, is cushioned shoes that elevate the heel and shift our bodyweight and alignment bullshit is the real question, the answer is obviously yes, our feet are designed far beyond mans engineering capacity, supremely complex, and neurological sensory linked to our body and musculature, spend time barefoot, and when you cannot, wear wide toe box zero drop heel shoes.

[@AndrewFolts]

Haha, I know. I find it amazing that I ever believed four billion years of evolution could be replaced by a $130 hunk of foam and plastic!

[@ryanthompson3446]

@@AndrewFolts its cool, we all did, knowledge is power.

[@htfcm]

You know what....I just heard you address the expensive comment I just made and you make some good points; I take back what I said.

[@AndrewFolts]

Cheapest shoes you'll ever buy. ;)

[@cinmac3]

I will not use any particular company names, but the seams fall apart and the glue gives out and there is separation between the material and sole. We have 15 pairs for evidence. We will consider your thoughts. Thanks.

[@AndrewFolts]

Dang, that's a lot of bad shoes! Hope you find some that work better!

[@Lulu-oi9ue]

I’ve just completed 10km running event wearing these shoes and had a bit of calf tightness but doesn’t last longer then a day. I don’t wear barefoot shoes except my runs twice a week. I feel I’ve adapted over couple months and don’t get hip pain anymore.

[@AndrewFolts]

That's great! I will take a little calf tightness over hip pain any day! (:

[@Lulu-oi9ue]

@@AndrewFolts yes much better trade off. I’m not broken from my run. I’m a beginner runner started New Year’s Day.

[@moredatesmorefiber3526]

Can you make a video on sending them back to Revivo and update us?

[@AndrewFolts]

I don't have anything to send back right now, since the Lite's are still going strong, but when they finally wear out I definitely will.

[@REByrd-ki3on]

I'm wearing the vivo Gobi shoes for about a half year now.. I like them alot!! I walk about 15/20km everyday but recently I lost my car and now I'm walking an additional 5km on concrete.. On concrete they tend to make ur foot hurt making alot of miles... I Dont think they will last 3 years but for now they are doing great! For people who get warm feet quickly the Gobi is not the way to go!! I'm going to buy altra lone peaks now for a little more comfort:) if they are too thick I might be considering the vivo trails. I have to mention this tho! If you have crooked toes due to your history of bad shoes/walking it won't grow back right again! That's unfortunate but maybe also a reason for people not to wait till they have foot issues! I recommend barefoot shoes all day everyday

[@AndrewFolts]

For concrete walking, I like to use the Primus Lite (3mm) with one or two layers of wool socks. Not sure if it would make a difference vs the 4mm Gobi, but I know it makes a huge difference vs my 5.5mm Xero sandals (which hurt like hell on pavement). For crooked toes, you could try those toe spacers. They're cheap and people say they do wonders.

[@REByrd-ki3on]

@@AndrewFolts I'd rather skip the concrete and walk in nature only:p I'm going to look up the primus lite and reconsider my thoughts tho:) Also I have been looking at the toe spacers but I cannot imagine it would be comfortable walking with it. Them being so cheap makes me wonder though why I haven't tried them.. Maybe I'll come back with a review;) By the way.. I'm not able to walk in "normal" shoes again so for those wondering to try.. It will make you hate yourself for walking those fashionable brand shoes that long! Greetings from the Netherlands and have a nice walk:)

[@marvinbayawalcantara7488]

Last year I started running in minimalist sandals....it improves my strides and it may me go further👌👌👌

[@AndrewFolts]

Sweet, keep it up! (:

[@giovanbattistafichera8439]

Take it from a guy who used the Merrel Vapor Glove 4 for fast workouts and 5k races. Great shoes, very light. You can really go fast in them but if your foot (like mine) doesn't really land right you're gonna get capsulitis in the second toe very easily. The metatarsal bones in your foot need fat for cushioning and more often than not, there's very little there.

[@AndrewFolts]

I found a sock or two can help a lot without affecting the stack height much. Shortening the stride as much as possible works too, but that's harder to do if you're running at a high tempo.

[@giovanbattistafichera8439]

@@AndrewFolts I was doing short reps (400m) and fast 5Ks (for me at least) - we're talking 3:30/km and 4:00/km and after racing a 5K late summer in the Vapor Gloves my right ball of the foot started hurting like hell. I just don't think you should push the pace in those unless your foot is trained. I also felt my plantar fascia being stretched quite some, which I also feel in other shoes like the Kinvara if I push the pace. Just like with everything, it's better to start slow and just walk in them for some time before doing high speed and high impact workouts.

[@RM-wo3rd]

Hello again:) I’m considering getting a pair of Lems Boulder boot for work. The advertised sole thickness is 9mm. I know the Vivos all seem to be 4mm. Based on your experience do you believe that would reduce the strength and stability progress of my feet? I’ve seen various sources talk about ground feedback and how connected the Vivos are to the ground but not sure how much it affects the strength, agility or toughness gains the more disconnected you are by using thicker soles found in other brands.

[@AndrewFolts]

If your work involves potentially dropping things on your feet or rocky terrain, the Boulder boot would be a great option. It's definitely more flexible than a standard hiking boot, but much less than a 4mm pair of Vivo's. The Vivo FG (6.5mm) would be a good middle option. At 10mm, you'll get a general ground feeling, but not much texture. Your feet won't develop any callus and thicker you go, the less flexibility and agility they'll develop. But overall, it's just about where you want to start. My Mom owns Lem's and Vivo and loves them both.

[@RM-wo3rd]

@@AndrewFolts awesome, thanks! I think I’ll grab them then. I’ve heard of people also removing the insoles to get a little closer to the ground. Maybe I’ll give that a try also after getting use to them for a bit:)

[@1stuffforfun]

Actually it's like every other type of training, you wouldn't go into a gym an try to bench 200 pounds on your first attempt and then be mad cause you injured yourself 😂😂

[@AndrewFolts]

Lol...unless you're me as a freshman in college.

[@pereiraplaza222]

Indeed and would you prefer to hit your head against the wall bare-headed or with a nice cushioned helmet? Or why do boxers wear gloves they might as well box bare handed. Or stop sleeping on pillows. You catch my drift.

[@AndrewFolts]

@@pereiraplaza222 The human head is not designed for being hit against walls and the human hand is not designed for boxing, which is why helmets and gloves are necessary for those activities, ha! The human foot, however, is designed for running. All over the world, people run barefoot or in leather moccasins, etc, with zero injuries because callus and proper form are the only types of "cushion" necessary.

[@pereiraplaza222]

@@AndrewFolts Yes this is true you got me. But there was no concrete or asphalt back in the old days when our grandfather's were chasing bizons in the woods . Feet were make to run on softer underground? Do you think that if you have a perfect running form you can run perfectly in any shoe, even highly cushioned ones? I mean look at Kipchoge, he wears very cushioned shoes. Is that because he has perfect form anyway?

[@AndrewFolts]

@@pereiraplaza222 I ran for two years on asphalt and concrete exclusively in 3mm barefoot shoes with no injuries. It's a myth that "hard" surfaces result in injuries. Still, I do prefer trails because they're varied-so the wear and tear gets spread out across different muscle groups. Plus, they're more fun! Perfect running form helps, of course, but if you look at most professional runners and even casual marathoners or 5K'ers, they get injured frequently. In Kipchoge's case, he wears cushioned VaporFly's because they make him faster and because Nike pays him-not because there are any health benefits.

[@anthonycraig274]

Wow, you have callouses!!! I never had callouses and I have been using ultra thin soles since 2002

[@AndrewFolts]

One reason is wearing a 3mm shoe (Vivo Primus Lite). Anything thicker than 3-4mm won't build callus. Another is that I was doing almost all my miles on rough pavement-often around 20-minute 5K pace. Although...you should see my calluses now that I've transitioned to running completely barefoot on pavement, ha! (:

[@anthonycraig274]

@@AndrewFolts In certain places around the world, I will literally walk and run around barefooted. I think I always have. I do have a few Vivo’s, I have been wearing them for years with other various thin soles trainers/shoes. I don’t believe my body was design to pound an even pavement or tarmac, so I will always opt for the less impact uneven terrain or routes.

[@AndrewFolts]

@@anthonycraig274 My only walking-distance trail got shutdown this year, so I had no choice but to run on pavement. Barefoot feels great and no shock, pain, or injuries so far, but will be interesting to see what happens over a year. Pounding can be a sign of striding too long or not bending the knees enough, so those are a couple things to try if you ever start aching mid barefoot run.

[@sumrandumguy7177]

I really wanna get some vibrams, but I’m not sure they’ll fit me as I have Greek feet (my second toes are my longest toes, longer than my big toes even). Do you think this will be a problem?

[@AndrewFolts]

They fit me true to size, but extremely wide. I have fairly narrow feet, and I had to synch them all the way closed for a good fit.

[@mantomalice1706]

so i've already accustomed to no shoes running, for sometime, is it worth to look for barefoot shoes considering that i need to readjust my feet or even finding the "right one" that may cause buying multiple shoes... P.S. personally i find avoiding small rock and sharp object kinda fun game where when you loose mean limping for a day or two ^_^

[@AndrewFolts]

Heck no. If you're having fun running full barefoot and you're able to avoid the sharp stuff, keep doing what you're doing! I love the Primus Lite because it feels 98% like barefoot and I don't have to worry about accidentally stepping on hidden sharp stuff, which is hard to see when I'm running at a faster clip.

[@TirnanHealy]

I don't understand how you've got 6107 views and 48 subs, ratio seems a little off

[@AndrewFolts]

I spent last year doing a challenge where I drew a comic every day for a year, so most of my videos were just voiceovers-not searchable or practical content, really. But we shall rectify that in 2021, ha! Going to be posting lots of barefoot and creative minimalism videos.

[@TirnanHealy]

@@AndrewFolts ah I see, good luck my friend.

[@vadjikr471]

Started using Curious Red sandals for running. They’re amazing. Little thicker than vivo.

[@AndrewFolts]

Oh man, those look sweet! I would totally buy a pair if I need some more padding-maybe for rocky trails or something. Thanks for the recommendation! (:

[@WatermelonPeppermint]

Im wondering how these type of shoes are for standing in factory settings all day, and not moving around? I get a lot of foot pain from the flat ground but cant seem to find relief other than super thick soled shoes :(

[@AndrewFolts]

When I was working at the running store, I did 8-hour shifts in the VivoBarefoot Primus Lite. Anytime I added cushion or went above a 3mm outsole, I started to get plantar fasciitis or pain. That said, standing all day is tough no matter what footwear you have. The human body just isn't built for long hours in a static position, so I would do everything you can to find a job that allows more freedom of movement-especially outdoors. In the meantime, consider trying the Primus Lite. They have a 100-Day trial, so there's nothing to lose. If possible, also get a stool or chair and switch from sitting to standing every five minutes. Also, alternating your stance between wide and narrow and doing the "mommy sway" can help a lot. Best of luck!

[@halfstep67]

If you need a cushioned shoe, look at Altra shoes. There are a zero drop shoe where your heel sits level with your forefoot. This will move your balancing point from your heel to your arch and let your entire foot share the load. Something with a lot of cushion like the paradigm 5 would be a good choice. I've broken both my ankles and have a fused right ankle so I deal with sore feet. The Altra shoes have been a blessing to my feet. Shoes like the minimalist with thin soles would be a good shoe to wear for walking so that the feet can get some exercise to strengthen the flexors and all the small muscles of the feet and lower leg. But these shoes won't give you much comfort for standing all day on hard surfaces.

[@AndrewFolts]

​@@halfstep67 Altra is definitely my favorite fitting brand. Unfortunately, the cushion was too much for me and they broke down within 200 miles, so I started to get plantar fasciitis both running and standing on concrete while working retail shifts. Could be after ankle surgery, barefoot is not an option, but I've always found the softest form of "cushion" is just walking and running with a smooth mid-foot stride. Weirdly, cushioned shoes have always caused more shock to my body.

[@halfstep67]

@@AndrewFolts You are right. A foot doesn't typically need cushion, it needs support. I walk a lot, 6-8 miles a day. I broke both ankles and my back. I have 2 screws in my left ankle, 11 screws and 2 plates in my right ankle which is fused, 4 screw and a titanium cage in my back with a fused L1 and one less rib on my left side. I do a lot of trail walking and like boots. I like Kenetrek mountain boots because they very stiff from heel to toe with a rocker sole. They work great for a fused ankle. But I also like to wear some zero drop shoes since I have a fused ankle. High cushion shoes like Altra can have a shorter life span but may offer relief to some people who stand on their feet all day. Just moving to a zero drop shoe usually helps because it shifts a person's balance from their heels to their mid foot allowing the entire foot to bear all the body weight. WatermelonPeppermint may have to first go into a high cushioned zero drop Altra for a bit then move to a lower cushion, higher support zero drop model. Altra also has lower cushion shoes. The problem with having feet issues is never having the option to let them heal due to being on them every day. So sometimes a person needs to make changes slowly over time. Walking barefoot in the soft grass for 20+ minutes a day in the warmer months is also good for the foot and can bring some relief.

[@user-fj2or3xp2c]

I work at Amazon 10 hour shift I was looking for some one to comment about this most shoe review only have comments about running or working out but never what if I stand this much a week thanks for the info

[@andrewpage3706]

Hi Andrew, really enjoyed your videos, my question is being a heavier runner and susceptible to knee injuries/pain. I was told i need cushion, the more the better. Basically, do barefoot shoes work for the heavier runner and would you be able to do ultra-distance running in them (road and trail)? Thank you

[@AndrewFolts]

Hey Andrew! First, I would say don't let anyone (including me) tell you what your body "needs." Try things out gradually, and if they work for you, explore them further-if not, try something else. Second, cushion shoes are clunky, no matter what body type you are. They replace your feet, which have hundreds of thousands of nerve endings, with a couple hunks of foam (which has zero), so you can't sense the ground at all. Basically, it's like blindfolding your feet. At most, a cushioned shoe is giving you about a half-inch of compression...which is the same half-inch your own feet will give you if you run with a forefoot stride (except with less dexterity). That said, barefoot running is a skill. It can take three months build up to a basic level of comfort and a year or more to surpass your previous level of strength and endurance, so it's a longterm investment, not a quick fix (especially if you're looking to do more than just casual 5k's). I'm coming out with a barefoot transition guide in the next few days, but in the meantime, here's some inspiration from a comment I got last week... "I was always avoiding running because of my weight and I feared for my knees, but because with barefoot running your body works as it is supposed to be I never had the issues with my knees that I was scared of. Started slow though, but by now I can run 10ks and looking forward to a half marathon, took me only a year from never running before at all. :) Btw, I run with skinners-socks, but I want to try Shamma Warrior Sandals now!"

[@tatecraft1361]

Imagine applying the central mantra of “Born to Run” to consumerism trends that parallel the goals of global planned obsolescence. “Barefoot” running is literally about doing more with less even before the net gain is achieved.

[@AndrewFolts]

"doing more with less even before the net gain is achieved." Not sure what you mean by that. Can you clarify?

[@dylnfstr]

Idk if you have a video on how to switch to a forefoot or mid foot strike, but I need it. I can’t figure it out 🙃

[@AndrewFolts]

Yup! Lots of good stride footage here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2OnaHWLhKaYbsk

[@RoyalLeech]

that autofocus working overtime...lol. add more light to the background

[@AndrewFolts]

I know, so janky. My setup has improved since this video. (:

[@billyelrod7881]

Hello I have a question, I work in pest control and put on about 6- 8 miles a day just walking around a lot of concrete and black top, some gravel and grass, what would you suggest me do to start a barefoot regimen??

[@AndrewFolts]

Hey, Billy! I'd recommend the VivoBarefoot Primus Lite (or any of their similar 4mm shoes, but not the 6.5mm ones). That's what I wore when I worked 8 hours shifts on concrete as a shoe salesman, and they totally fixed my foot pain/fatigue. You can get them discounted at revivo.com also.

[@sylviariding5551]

I want to get back to barefoot running and walking but I have a stress fracture (left metatarsal 2). Any tips for how to resume once it's healed? Thanks

[@AndrewFolts]

Hey Sylvia! The best thing you can do is take it very slow, but shortening your stide will help too, because it keeps your knees bent, which softens impact. Alternating with a cushion shoe is also worth a try. Good luck with your recovery!

[@princessjade100]

I had Vivobarefoot Evo for the longest time and absolutely loved them although at that time I didn't run much or regularly. After quarantine I started to run everyday and had to get a new pair when finally there was a tear at the sole of Evo. I got Vivobarefoot Primus Lite and Stealth. Surprisingly I got plantar not long after changing shoes, which was very frustrating, and still dealing with it. I thought I was already accustomed to the barefoot running but was wondering whether my technique is still wrong or whether I just a little militant about adding the mileage: I went from 3 mile run to 7 mile. Any thoughts?

[@AndrewFolts]

Yup, sounds like the milage, ha! The key is to listen to your body. If it says "I've had enough," stop and walk or take a day off to recover. Trying to force certain milage or certain training plans is what leads to injury. That and stretching. Never ever stretch-especially calf stretching.

[@princessjade100]

@@AndrewFolts Thanks for responding. I have been cutting back to running 3-4 miles every 3 days while dealing with the plantar. I saw your other video recommending no stretching and will definitely try that, but curious as to why you think stretching is bad. Thanks for all the great info.

[@AndrewFolts]

@@princessjade100 I remember in high school, there was this group of guys who were convinced stretching was terrible and wouldn't partake. They never got injured and were by far the top-performers on the team. Around 2017, after years of injuries and strains, I stopped stretching and started running in barefoot shoes as an experiment. It was just a feeling, ya know, like whenever I would stretch my mind would be thinking: "I don't enjoy this." Same thing with cushion-it never felt "right." In 2019, I stopped lifting weights, as well, and following my intuition (vs tradition or habit) has served me well for three years. No injuries, no strains. Just daily running and lots of enjoyment!

[@brainymeathead9206]

Great stuff!!! Been meaning to get into barefoot shoes and to prepare I have taken out the insoles from my nike flyknit racers and started walking with them, however it eventually lead to knee pain and I had to go put back the insole and focus on walking with my midfoot. I do want ask tips for sizing as from the previous videos I watched, I found confusing some people go a half size up and end up getting a huge ass shoe others size down and have to force and shove their feet in a narrow shoe. The flyknits racers I use are a US size 9.5 and I took the size finder they had to recommended a size 9 pair, in your experience how do you go and take note of the size of the barefoot shoe and does the sizing depend on the person ?

[@AndrewFolts]

Barefoot shoes are like any other shoes. The sizing is all over the place with different brands and different models. The standard rule for running shoes is that you should have a thumbnail's width between the end of your longest toe and the front of the shoe. If you measure with a Bannock device, you would typically go up one half size from where you measure. I find with barefoot running that you just have to dive in-it's not very helpful trying to slowly transition using more and more minimal cushion shoes because cushion is the problem. Walking mid-foot is a great way to start building strength, and you could even do a little barefoot running around the house or out in the yard. Just take it easy and rest when your body tells you it's had enough.

[@brainymeathead9206]

@@AndrewFolts thanks for the reply man 💯Really excited to try out barefoot shoes and would really want to stick with it forever!!! A review on the other vivobarefoot shoes like the geo racer, geo court and trail fg would be great.

[@AndrewFolts]

@@brainymeathead9206 Just talked to someone who runs in the Geo Race and loves it. It's very similar to the Primus Lite, except with a lighter, more flexible upper.

[@brainymeathead9206]

@@AndrewFolts just an update I have been made up my mind and decided to get the geo racers for running for sizing does it differ with the primus lites and is it more intended for running / could be used for sprinting in a soft terrain such as grass or track, would be great to have more review for the shoe?

[@AndrewFolts]

@@brainymeathead9206 Talked to Eva the Vegan the other day who owns the Geo and loves it. Primus ran true to size for me, and the Geo is basically the same thing with a more flexible upper. Should be great for running on grass or track. I ran a 58s 400m in my Lite's, so they're just as good as spikes, IMO.

[@toddboucher3302]

I know it’s old video but been at barefoot his for years. My pt I was seeing told me to mix it up. Is it run like 80% of your runs in your barefoot shoes in everyone’s now and then throw on a normal cushion shoe. he feels that the change is good to prevent repetitive stress injuries. Any thoughts on this

[@AndrewFolts]

Hey Todd, alternating can definitely be helpful to reduce strain when you're dealing with PF. I'd just make sure the cushion shoe was lower drop (like 0-6mm), because otherwise it'll be too weird going back and forth.

[@toddboucher3302]

@@AndrewFolts No my PF issue with some I fell in a hole in our yard arm kind of funny but am so seeing him and he’s a beer foot runner also and he’s talking like BNN I couldn’t Farah every once in a while he said if you’re trying to raise something fast getting a racing shoe he does just break it up I can think is what he’s talking about thanks for your reply really enjoy your videos

[@bravokilopapa]

woot woot vivobarefoot all day :-)

[@AndrewFolts]

VB 4 the win! 🤘

[@paulbarton957]

what's the camera doing? feel queasy

[@AndrewFolts]

Yea sorry...old Canon Rebel with a crappy autofocus, ha! Using a Sony a6400 now, and it's so much nicer.

[@khamadi326]

What's your opinion on the merrell vapor glove compared to the vivo shoes?

[@AndrewFolts]

Depends on the shoe. I prefer my Primus Lite's (3mm) for roads and light trails because it's much thinner and lighter, so I get a better ground feel. The Vivo FG and the Vapor Glove are very similar (both 6.5mm, last I checked). Vapor is probably more durable, FG has more toebox room.

[@detmerhubbeling3955]

Do you know about TOPO's? Not barefoot but zero drop?

[@andrewfolts250]

Yea, I’ve heard good things. Personally, I would never go back to a cushioned shoe, but they might make a great transition option.

[@AndrewFolts]

My evil clone, muahaha! (:

[@TamaEnergy]

I have to take the removal insole out of these to get the perrrefect fit! I hope this is ok to do for your feet? Because it ofc means I feel the ground even harder! I plan to use them for work in a hospital so hard plastic floors, any advice on this be good! PS. The size up is just tooo long

[@AndrewFolts]

Are you talking about the Primus Lite or something else? Insoles usually make a minimal difference, so shouldn't be a problem.

[@TamaEnergy]

@@AndrewFolts primus lite 2 bio. Yeah seems like I can just feel the floor a lot more but I guess I'm just really getting the barefoot feel! Wore them all day today and not even got achy feet !

[@AndrewFolts]

@@TamaEnergy Yea, the Lite's are way better with no insole. Glad you had a good day on your feet!

[@TamaEnergy]

@@AndrewFolts thanks! Was worried it would wear the shoe down , seems like they were sized then added the insole! Fit just isn't good with them insole, seems a common issue reading online

[@stephenshw2262]

Vibram Five Fingers are the bomb

[@AndrewFolts]

Yes...yes, the are. 🐾

[@p5rsona]

Would you still recommend the vivo to get started running?

[@AndrewFolts]

Yea, although someone just pointed out that they changed from 3m to 4mm, which is a little disappointing. Still think they'd be good. Check my update video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3OwpoCfgZaNbcU&ab_channel=AndrewFolts

[@p5rsona]

@@AndrewFolts Cheers!

[@typerightseesight]

is that a skateshoe?

[@AndrewFolts]

It's a running shoe, but you could use it for skating. Although...it's only 3mm thick, so the friction might trash it pretty quick!

[@typerightseesight]

@@AndrewFolts It looks like a worn out skate shoe! lol.

[@michellelewis1090]

I am 77. As children we ran and jumped and did everything bare foot. I still go without shoes unless I have to wear a shoe. I am South African and all Africans run bare foot. Bare foot shoes are Bullshit, the next gimmick after running shoes.

[@AndrewFolts]

Totally agree. When I started running in barefoot shoes, I thought I had reached the last stop. But this year, I started running full barefoot, and it was so much more fun. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYa4lYydfdupbZI That said, there are still a few times where barefoot shoes make sense. Wintertime, mostly.

[@legolad444]

Do you use the insole or take it out? I just got my first pair yesterday

[@AndrewFolts]

Hey Rory! Nope, just the shoes, but I do wear the Thermal Insole in wintertime to keep my feet warm.

[@legolad444]

@@AndrewFolts ah I see, i have another q: how much space should you have between your longest toe and the shoe? I have about an about half an index finger of space.

[@AndrewFolts]

@@legolad444 The general rule is between a half and a full thumbnail's length, which translates to 1/4"-1/2". I assume your index finder is about the same. You just don't want the end of your toe to be hitting the end of the shoe when you run.

[@legolad444]

@@AndrewFolts yeah i feel like i can go down a size because i can get my toes to the end and shove my finger down my heel to touch the sole. thx Andrew

[@AndrewFolts]

@@legolad444 Yea, that sounds a recipe for blisters, ha!

[@bobbob-vt3bw]

What's your opinion in running in crocs

[@AndrewFolts]

BAM... kzbin.info/www/bejne/omTIlZ-QjsyVhac

[@johannabuhlmann5386]

About racing in barefoot shoes, there are world records that were set completely barefoot. So not to worry 😉

[@AndrewFolts]

Yea, I can believe it! I've run my fastest times wearing 3mm Vivo's the past few years.

[@viranjith]

Have you tried Xero s?

[@AndrewFolts]

Yea, I have a pair of Xero Z-Trek sandals. They're good as a backup, but at 5.5mm, they feel too thick and clunky. My feet hurt after a mile or so. I much prefer my 3mm Vivo Primus Lite's or 3.5mm Wildling Flying Fox's. When it comes to barefoot shoes 3-4mm is ideal for flexibility and ground feel.

[@tentimetex]

I think its a good idea to wear barefoot shoes from time to time, i wouldnt wear them all the time.

[@AndrewFolts]

For sure, Whatever feels good in the moment is the thing to wear!

[@emilybacon11]

Plse tell me all your PBs ie 5km, 10km 21km 42km or more, done in barefoot shoes?

[@AndrewFolts]

Hey Emily, I'm not a distance runner, I mostly do mid-distance (5k being my longest). Here's what I've done in barefoot shoes... 400m: 0:51 800m: 2:03 1600m: 4:27 5000m: 16:57

[@emilybacon11]

@@AndrewFolts Thank you so much for your answer, the 5km one helps, thanks! I bought & waiting to receive the Vibram Five Fingers Bikila EVO 2 V-Run for starting my transitioning & everyday use to get my feet into its natural state as nature intended, i just wanna wear them permanently except for shower & bed LOL. I love road running & trail running. I cannot find the V-Trail five fingers anywhere as I don't want the V2.0 version, i want the one they made before that, which is just the Vibram Five Finger V-Trail, so sadly im guessing they don't make them anymore. I've heard too many stories the V2.0 cos of that thicker overlay over the top of the toes area on shoes causes blisters & many are complaining about it whereas the previous version doesn't cause blisters. Guess im stuck with Solomon Speedcross 5 trail shoes! Can only hope in waiting for new trail barefoot shoes to be made.

[@AndrewFolts]

@@emilybacon11 Ha, I feel you. I literally wore my Vivo's everywhere for the first three years. I have a pair of Vibram V-Trek's, which I love for trails, but I can't wear them for more than a couple miles, because I get blisters on the outside of my pinky toe. It sucks, I do wish the fabric was more stretchy.

[@emilybacon11]

@@AndrewFolts Good point, perhaps Vibram should ease up on the material & make it more stretchy & softer round the more delicate parts called, toes. You wanna know what really sucks? .... only finding out about barefoot five fingers (toes) shoes at 49, almost turning 50 yrs old!

[@AndrewFolts]

@@emilybacon11 Hey, most people never find out about barefoot shoes, let alone try them, so you're 50 years ahead of the pack! (:

[@simonwalmsley7670]

What are they like to drive in?

[@AndrewFolts]

They're fine. I drive stick, so if I'm doing a lot of stop and go driving (like city traffic), I prefer something a little thicker, because the clutch is harder to push down, and the pressure can wear on the ball of your foot a bit. But for regular country or highway driving, it's no problem.

[@steadyrow]

YOU TRACKIN?!?!?!

[@AndrewFolts]

Always!!!

[@thebigredwagon]

The ludicrous idea that evolution knows how to make a better foot than Nike

[@AndrewFolts]

Cheetahs are fake news. There's no way they could run that fast without the Nike 4%.

[@thebigredwagon]

@@AndrewFolts lol

[@thebigredwagon]

What vivo’s would you recommend for a newbie?

[@AndrewFolts]

@@thebigredwagon For barefoot shoes, 3-4mm thick is ideal for sensitivity, so the Primus Lite or Geo Racer are good picks. Wildling Flying Fox is another great option at 3.5mm.

[@thebigredwagon]

@@AndrewFolts Thank you. I’m going to buy some tonight. Your videos really sold these on me

[@johnrohrkaste2073]

Check out SOM footwear. American made 🇺🇸

[@AndrewFolts]

That's cool that they're all raw! Bummer that the sole is 8mm, though. Too much for me, but maybe they'll have lighter options as they grow. I'll keep an eye out.

[@guardiandog2445]

👍

[@jfbrko290]

We get told what to buy so often because capitalism has to have its fingers in every little thing in life.

[@AndrewFolts]

No doubt. People like their money.

[@markthomasson5077]

Can you race....ask Zola Bud

[@AndrewFolts]

Ha, yea. My fav quote from her... "If you’re running barefoot, it’s best to be last or in front.”

[@davidlynch9049]

You slow way down! lol. No one is going to win races, or get to the elite category in barefoot shoes.

[@AndrewFolts]

On roads, yea, because barefoot runners have to watch out for stones and such. On trails, it's a different story. The Tarahumara run with little more than a few mm's of tire rubber as sandals, and they regularly crush cushioned runners at the elite levels of ultra running. That said, the point of barefoot running isn't setting speed records. Kind of defeats the purpose, ya know? It's all about the fun of feeling different types of terrain under your feet. Although, I did set my 3k PR in 3mm barefoot shoes at 16:57. My best in cushion shoes was 17:30.

[@MikeDynamoGo]

Yeah those foot coffins are terrible

[@AndrewFolts]

"foot coffins." Ha, that's my new favorite metaphor. Even better than "foot prisons." (:

[@ohyeahyeah1528]

11 subscribers lol

[@AndrewFolts]

Livin' the dream. ;)

[@alancox3739]

Perfect time to get in on the ground floor

[@pawhunter340]

Now I feel better having 140 subscribers lol

[@AndrewFolts]

@@pawhunter340 Gotta start some somewhere! 🏔

[@reemessam1234]

This is a shallow review, you only want to feel the ground and do not consider your muscles’ reactions. You also talk too much with very little information

[@AndrewFolts]

This is a super old video, back when I had no idea what I was doing. Check my new barefoot videos. Cheers!