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@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
@Brian Mallia The 705 S3s are notably better than the new 600M MKIIs --both subjectively and objectively. Admittedly neither speaker is "perfect" but you are buying a better, more accurate and solidly put together speaker in the B&W in direct comparison to the Klipsch. We don't have any current plans to review the new 8000F MKII in the short term, but maybe that will change, I don't know. As for the Jubilee, I'm on the fence about reviewing them given their size and logistics.
@turntableman100 Жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew I one of your new subscribers. Let's talk about bowers and Wilkins 705s3. Now am a huge fan of bowers and Wilkins speakers I got the old DM 601 S3 since 2004 they are good but when you said decisions compare to PMC speakers twenty 21i your nail it because I was confused at the time between those two company brand. So easy I go for bowers and Wilkins 705s3 I love the style and carbon dome tweeter. So thinking to get one near Christmas.
@MaZEEZaM7 ай бұрын
Urgh you paired it with a $7,000 AUD Amp 😨😭 I was hoping it was $3,500 or less. The Marantz is $3,700.
@steveo80152 жыл бұрын
Your channel is like a sanctuary for for those of us who want the straight scoop on audio gear. The point/counterpoint format together with the chemistry that you have together never gets old!
@0-60STYLE2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I just want to watch a relaxing ass well made video, and I just replay some of the reviews for good vibes
@jmax51052 жыл бұрын
I'm a long time B&W fan as well, but their pricing has kept me from buying another set. I get that they want to remain an "elite level" speaker brand and thus, keep their prices high, but I don't believe that what they charge equally correlates to the differences in sound you get, i.e, Kristi's take on the Lumina II vs the 705. I would LOVE to have B&Ws in my house for listening, but they have priced ME out of their audience. I know there are lots of people that can afford them, I'm just not one of them. The 802s will always have a place on my bucket list, but it's the part of my bucket list that likely won't ever be fulfilled, lol. As always, thanks for all the work you both put into these reviews, I can't wait to hear about the 805s and the Marantz Cinema 50! Thanks again!
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
I'm with you. The price jump between the 600 series to the 700 doesn't make a ton of sense to me either. Really appreciate you hanging out with us today!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Jason I appreciate you sharing and for being so honest. I hear ya. I was hoping the new 600 Anniversary Series would've been the perfect "entry-level" B&W but it was a let down. Hopefully the next gen will be better because B&W used to make really good, approachable speakers too!
@Adrianek812 жыл бұрын
606 are still amazing😜✌️😉
@bartwalters66942 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I appreciated your reviews of the 600 series. But I couldn’t pass up buying them for $500 a pair. For my first fancy speakers they work for me.
@budgetaudiophilelife-long54612 жыл бұрын
🤗 I ACTUALLY AM BLESSED TO HAVE A PAIR OF 802 D2s and I will just have to save for a pair of the 705 S3s for my rears …which may take years 😁🤗💚💚💚
@luacslucky2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this episode, Kristi's insights and impression on the blind testing are really appreciated, and she described it really well!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching through to the end!
@pcfreakx2 жыл бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again - those dreamy, slow slides across the woofer or tweeter with a wide open aperture and creamy bokeh is straight up product shot pr0n. Some beautiful camera work Andrew.
@techsamurai112 жыл бұрын
Funny, I hadn't even noticed it - I guess that happens when you like what you see😄
@Celtpjs34stone342 жыл бұрын
"Those are some subjective thoughts but they are the correct ones." 🤣 Kristi is the best! Also the 705 grilles look like leftover grilles from the older 805 speakers from a couple generations but agree that the 705 grilles look crappy lol. I look forward to hearing the new 700 series Great review per usual!! 🎉
@Staybrown112 жыл бұрын
You two just keep getting better and better on the quality and content of your videos. Also, the blind test is great. Next time Andrew needs to sit on the hot chair as well. 🎉
@cha72602 жыл бұрын
As a 705 S2 owner, would be great to have comparison review between the S2 and S3, especially since the Frequency Response you have looks just about the same as what my 705 S2 measures at.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, we've only heard that speaker in store and have not measured it.
@Itsss_Nemo2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I would like to see this as well
@marckant36112 жыл бұрын
I'm curious between the 705 s2 Signature and the 705 s3. They say they sound very alike because of the improved filter of the Signatures.
@stevenoconnor56932 жыл бұрын
Having the 705 s2 as surrounds it be no reason at all to upgrade to the 705 s3 very much satisfied with the 705 s2
@michaelmckie8050 Жыл бұрын
Would it be worth upgrading from the s2 to s3 for the longer haul?
@Rascallucci2 жыл бұрын
Good review, but I feel like like you missed out on arguably what would have been one of the more interesting comparisons and that is the B&W 705 S2 and/or the B&W 705 S2 Signature.
@lesterleonard87502 жыл бұрын
I wish you guys would have compared the 705s2 to the 705s3s. I’m trying to decide what to get because the S2 line is going out at a good price, so what do you think help me out thanks great review
@deankim66872 жыл бұрын
Totally wasn’t expecting this review. Bravo. Can’t wait til the 805 D4 comparison!
@buffboy7102 жыл бұрын
Happy to see this channel grow and reviews getting better and better. Cheers 🥂
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
❤
@ibassnote2 жыл бұрын
I love both of you guys, but I have a hilarious confession. I often go straight to Kristi’s take and then later return to hear the whole review. It’s not to devalue Andrew’s excellent insights, it just works for me. What a team!
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
😊😊😊
@markmcfeaters9116 Жыл бұрын
I love my Bowers and Wilkins 702 S2. I upgraded from the definitive technology bp9040. My reciever is a Yamaha A2080. I can't wait to complete with the center and rear channels and also adding the DBS4 subwoofer. Keep up the great reviews. They are very informative, thank you
@davidparsons65172 жыл бұрын
Great review. Have been enjoying my 703 s2 for a couple of years and now a upgrade. Be nice to see some s2 vs s3 comparisons in the 700 series.
@GeordieAmanda2 жыл бұрын
I recently bought the B&W 702 S2 Signatures and thought they needed a little 'something' to bring the best out of them. After seeing Andrew's review of them, I bought a Musical fidelity M6 PRX and "hey presto"! They were the speakers I always hoped they were. Thank you, Mr Robinson (no relation) :)
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
🎉🎉
@lexusuk7901Ай бұрын
Just upgraded from B&W 607 S2 with an old Arcam A70 to a NAD C399 and B&W 705 S3. I do agree with what was said in this review. They are amazing. I picked them up from Peter Tyson "Nearly New" for just over £1500 so got them at a steal of a price.
@skizzlemane12 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to give a compliment to both of you in regards to your command of the English language. Not hearing fumbling thoughts is refreshing. This was very informative, and the subjective styling argument at the end was fun to engage in. This is my first time on the channel. Thanks for the review 👍🏼
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to our channel and we hope to see more of you!
@jlappin62772 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, I just pick up a pair of 705 S2 for $2635. Today I’m waiting for a Hegel 190, to pair with these beautiful speakers. I want to thank you for reviewing the B&WS3. The 190Hegel I was also able to get a great price from Hegel for $3200. They just drop the price this month $1100 on that amplifier. Andrew, I just had a chance to finish up watching the whole review. I’d like to tell you I am a huge fan and like you of B&W since 1986. I bought my first pair of DM sevens , that same year I also picked up a pair of metric ones. I still have both sets of speakers along with my Nakamichi equipment. Thanks to the both of you again for such a great review.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
I saw that Hegel was on sale this week. Enjoy your new setup!
@jlappin62772 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys for your reply B&W Speakers in general have always been close to the heart. You guys are so good together in your reviews you make it a lot of fun. Thanks.
@guillermosanchez8784 Жыл бұрын
Do they sound better than the Monitor Audio Silver 100 7G?? Thank you!!
@etlahetlah2 жыл бұрын
I AM SO HAPPY! I put 3 x 800 D3 Diamond Tweeters (ZZ28738) in my 705 S2 and HTM71 S3... They fit perfectly and it works tremendous without the need to change crossovers or such and now it is so hard to tell differences to the 805 D3. My favorite look combined with the diamond tweeter. I love it.
@franciscoortiz69802 жыл бұрын
good video. You know the amazing thing... the B&W 705 cost what the 805 used to cost 15yrs ago. The 805s are just insane expensive. My buddy just bought a pair of the PRO-Ject bookshelfs... very nice. BUUUT I still think my Quad S2 sound better than the Pro-Ject, and I still think they are the speaker to beat in approx 1000/pr range.
@jasonflanagan11612 жыл бұрын
I was surprised by the comparisons at the end- for me and my budget the B&W doesn’t hold enough cards to surpass something like the Lumina 2 given the reported minor differences sonically. I think the Lumina 2 is also better looking. Did you try the B&W’s with a modestly priced amp like the Audiolab?
@yvesboutin56042 жыл бұрын
Having two persons with slightly different opinions is what makes that channel so interesting and informative. Two heads is always better than one, right!
@lfazio96902 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful feeling to be “hoping” but expecting a let down, only to be blown away! Nice review as always! Keep it up!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@lfazio96902 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews just thinking, I bet that warmer Denon was an awesome pairing!!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
@@lfazio9690 Pure magic!
@Professor51802 жыл бұрын
I actually like the 704 s2 speakers. They are slim towers that take up less area space than most bookshelves with stands. I compared them to the 705s2 and immediately heard a huge difference between the towers. I could only detect a slight difference when going from the 704s2 to 702s2. But the size and WAF factor are what I liked the best. The big question is What's the difference between s2 vs s3 because you can get a massive discount on the s2 models right now.
@svx942 жыл бұрын
I do share with your observation. For the S2 series, I opted the 704 for a better base, and "free" stand!
@Professor51802 жыл бұрын
@@svx94 exactly
@grindingpancake2 жыл бұрын
So you saying small towers do have noticeably bigger bass than standmounts?
@Professor51802 жыл бұрын
@@grindingpancake yes, even in the video Andrew pointed out that there wasn't a whole lot of bass from the 705s.
@svx942 жыл бұрын
@@grindingpancake I did a AB test more than a year ago in BestBuy store. To my untrained ear, yes, the 704 has better, punchier base; and the separated tweeter housing didn't show noticeable difference. I also compared with KEF R3 that day. Both B&W sounded more 3D than the KEF.
@josephchamberlain36812 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, got nervous in previous videos when seeing the B+W B roll happening. After the hubbub from the 600's, and knowing Andrew's love for the brand I was worried that he would be predisposed to lean into any enjoyment coming from B+W. Truly a fun review. Production quality was stellar as always. Looking forward to the review for it's big brother.
@aussierob71772 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew and kristi. When i first got into this hobby, i used to buy all the Hi Fi Magazines i could find. They were mainly from England and the U.S. Both magazines only reviewed speakers from their own country. In Australia speakers were very expensive to buy, especially the British ones. Basically you could only choose Goodmans, Wharfdale, Quad Electrostatic, B&W from England. AR, KLH, JBL and Bose from the US. Now that most British speakers are made in China, many of them have become more affordable . However,the quality of many of these speakers has diminished to when they were actually made in England, Just wondering, do you have any "Direct to Disc" records ?
@gordthor53512 жыл бұрын
Soft dome tweeters are not always softer around the edges. The Polk RTi A9s are right in your face and hardly soft around the edges. I have several aluminum dome tweeter which are much smoother and more accurate.
@Teh.dancer.kaylee2 жыл бұрын
I did an in-home audition of the B&W 607 S2 and was appalled by the harsh highs and recessed mids. Glad to hear that these issues are one-off and only apply to the 600 series.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
100% different speakers (thankfully 😃)
@ChicagoRob22 жыл бұрын
The highest production quality I’ve seen for an audio-oriented channel. The reviews ain’t bad, either!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@shanehamilton67732 жыл бұрын
After the VERY positive review of these.......I'm curious to know if you two prefer 705 S3 over the Formation Duo??? Please and thanks.
@rehn1kri2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome to watch, nice work Andrew and Kristi. Just a thought. Is it possible that your new listening room is more ‘forgiving’ of brighter or more energetic speakers than your previous space, and that’s part of the reason you really liked these? Either way, I’m glad you did.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
You could make that argument. This room measures differently as all rooms will. That said, I don't believe "forgiving" is the right word. More balanced? Yes. The issue in our old space contrary to most people's assumptions was never brightness. The old room was bass loading - something I was aware of and took into account in all of our reviews. I am confident in saying the room was NOT the issue with the 600 series. We didn't like it in our old home and we didn't like it here in the new space. It has a smile like curve to its response no matter what room you put it in.
@rehn1kri2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response, Andrew. Once again, fantastic content.
@sharingfamspace31562 жыл бұрын
always nice to hear Kristie’s take..she really articulates everything so nice❤
@stevenoconnor56932 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews when is the 805 d4 going to come out?
@DC-ry7eg2 жыл бұрын
Andrew and Kristi, I so enjoy your reviews and always look forward to them. I was wondering about Andrew’s commitment regarding “low volume listening” on the 705 S3 speakers. I have the 705 Signature speakers powered by a Naim Uniti Star and feel the speakers are lacking unless I turn them up to levels that make my wife want to leave the room (which is really not that loud). On paper my speakers and yours appear to be nearly identical. I am wondering if the newer version is that much better/efficient or if I still need more power for low level listening.
@abxaudiophiles2 жыл бұрын
B&W is literally musical butter!!! I am still rocking my 2007 (last year made in England) 604 series 3 towers, and I LOVE them... Waiting for my Emotiva XPA-2 gen 3 to arrive to throw some clean power to them... Wish me luck.
@johndoggett11388 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew and Kristi, first of all I really like your work : each video is a pleasure ! I've just heard this speaker with my amplifier (Marantz 40n) at my dealer and I'm really impressed : it sounds great, clear, accurate, spacious whatever the style of music. Even at low volume ! I'm saving money to buy it beaucause it's simply and perfectly the sound I want. Best regards from France !
@TylerStout2 жыл бұрын
I REALLY enjoyed the fact that you guys did blind listening tests! I think the pricing is wild, I have a spreadsheet with 3 way centers and when I made it originally 1 year ago you could get the HTM71 S2 for $1500 before the price hike to $2000 and the HTM71 S3 is $2500. Really makes me sad because the S2 was stretching my budget but the S3 is firmly outside of it once you consider I'd want 5 speakers (705, 704, htm71). Also I still miss the specs being visually shown, don't think I've forgot haha. Also gloss black is 🤢for me personally where's my black oak veneer!
@dirtydan80982 жыл бұрын
Found your channel watching the Klipsch 8000F tower review- I watch a lot of tech reviews with nice production but yours is a step up. What microphone are you using? It’s the best I’ve heard!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel McGuigan, Thanks for tuning in! You'll find that information here bit.ly/ARFilmKit
@novisnick69282 жыл бұрын
You look SO happy Andrew! At the end your correct, Mucho $$$ for most of us. Enjoy!
@kennethdias99882 жыл бұрын
You have the best job in the world. Listen to great music on great systems and then talk about it. It’s something that millions do for fun and you get paid good for you ! You do help people save $ for great audio experiences .
@Harry-Giles2 жыл бұрын
You could really tell you had enthusiasm over these speakers. It made for a fun review. I would love to hear them. But, not a big fan way of the way they look.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Enthusiasm and relief! Appreciate you tuning in!
@saltaormina94042 жыл бұрын
Comin’ in from outer space! Shmoly Cannoli! I need to savour the anticipation of watching this one! ❤🍾
@joshmcgowan42 жыл бұрын
Great video, I am an old B&W fan. I have never owned a pair but my best friend has a pair of DM604s that I always had a blast listening to.
@THEDTSMAN2 жыл бұрын
I owned a pair of Bowers and Wilkins for well over 20 years without fault. Fantastic speakers. At the time when it came to renew they never really had something that worked for me and I wanted a sub satellite system. In the end, I went for something extremely niche. The Ken Kreisel Q125 Quattro Speakers. Id love to see some of the new Ken Kreisel speakers reviewed on this channel.
@michael07912 жыл бұрын
705 S2 are great sounding speakers. With the new S3 line I do wonder if the 702 S2 Signature is better than the 702 S3.
@jasonlandry21212 жыл бұрын
Great review. I currently own the 705s2 with dedicated B&W stands and the HTM71s2 center channel. I am looking to upgrade to the 702s3 with new matching center. So… I guess I am curious if you will be testing the 702s2 vs. 702s3, would love to hear how you would compare them.
@hansdeville792 жыл бұрын
Once again a great review! Footage and comments are like it should be! At home, I'm still enjoying listening to a pair of B&W XT2. Keep up the good work!
@drchriscov2 жыл бұрын
Thank you !!! Awesome video Can't wait for 805 D4 review! Question do you know if there is a big difference between 805 D3 vs D4 👋
@floriandobbratz75802 жыл бұрын
Hey Kristi & Andrew, thanks as always for your great review. Just wanted to let you guys know that I received the Speaker Box 5 S2 today, which I traded for my B&W 606 S2‘s based in your reviews. Best choice ever! Got them for 500€‘s over here in Europe. Thank you guys so much!!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
The SpeakerBox 5 S2 is better than the B&W 600 Series for sure! Enjoy 'em!
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@floriandobbratz75802 жыл бұрын
Also took the green one 😉
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
@@floriandobbratz7580 NICE!
@vicXsan2 жыл бұрын
Omg your room looks more amazing with every new video ❤ Fun to se something from your movie, would love to watch it!
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@philr97532 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Andrew and Kristi for your review. I was demoing some speakers at my Hi fi store recently and nothing was appealing to me (with NAIM UNIT STAR), as a last resort I was told 'try these', out came a pair of the 705 S3's. Wow! B&W were off my radar but I was so impressed with these, and for all the confirmatory reasons you mention, I will probably buy them, now there's a surprise!! 😊
@budgetaudiophilelife-long54612 жыл бұрын
ANDREW,KRISTI…🤗VERY HAPPY YOU GOT THE SPEAKERS YOU WANTED AND THEY 👀 LOOK GREAT 🤩 In your room,I hope you enjoy them for many years 🤗💚💚💚
@TCSB292 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous looking speakers! I do agree, the mock-up grill design you made would take them over the top. Great review as always!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and I appreciate the vote for my grille design!
@typeonegsr2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more on the grills. They look cheap and could have done better. Also I would want the speakers to show their logo up front especially when you pay that kind of money for them.
@daniannaci32582 жыл бұрын
@@typeonegsr And look like the new Mission 700s? If a company wants to advertise in my listening room (or on my chest for that matter) I think they should pay me 😂!
@sidvicious31292 жыл бұрын
Wow, I just bought a pair of the Bowers and Wilkins, 705s2 today, 1.5 hrs ago and I'm on my way home to listen to them. I'm looking to replace my Kef R3s. Magnolia told me that they are expecting the 705s3 in soon.
@cpa8899002 жыл бұрын
I own the 705 S2 and the R3s. I prefer the 705 S2 by a mile.
@sidvicious31292 жыл бұрын
@@cpa889900 I have to agree with you, the 705 S2 is a keeper.
@raphaelmeillat85272 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for this surprise review! Can't wait to see your 805 D4 review. Loved the D3 already. But tough competition at its price point (from Dynaudio, ProAc, etc.) Cheers from France!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for the D4 review.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
Merci!
@toneswinger2 жыл бұрын
The price point of the 805s is very interesting there are many great speakers worth considering. Andrew should do a huge group test here's a list 1. KEF reference 1 meta 2. ATC Scm20 3. Proarc Response d2r 4. Sonus Faber olympica nova 1 5. Bw 805 d4 6 Dynaudio contour 20i 7. DALI EPICON 2 8. Spendor classic 2/3 9. Harbeth c7es-3 xd 10. HECO belladonna 11. Canton Reference 9k 12 Audiovector Arette 13 Gold note a3 evo 14 wharfedale elysian 2 15. Audio Physic spark 16 Fyne Audio f701 or f1-8 Probably some others that I forgot
@JimboJason2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Nice tease for the 805 review, looking forward to that one.
@racecrashrepeat2 жыл бұрын
Ok my question is. How does the 705S3 compare vs a pair of 805D3...considering the second hand market this makes it a very interesting question. Diamond tweeter in the 805d3 vs the new midrange from the 8..D4 series . Andrew are you able to chime in on this? I've been looking for a pair of 804D3s but now not sure if the 703s3 might he the better choice? Thank you
@sumeetsingh75 Жыл бұрын
Curious which way did you go? I'm in the same boat - 705S3 vs used 805D3
@paulsnow41812 жыл бұрын
Great review, I kind of wish you would of reviewed the 706 S3 instead and compare it to the 606 anniversary's. Wondering if there is a big difference in the treble between those two.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
I’d hope there’s a difference. The 606/607 were terrible.
@stuartmadeley8852 Жыл бұрын
Coming to this late but with all the discussion of cheaper alternatives I am surprised there’s no mention of the 706. There are very few reviews of the 706 s3 but the few I have read say it’s sonically very close to the 705 - with slightly more sparkle on the top end. Which is what you would expect from an almost identical cabinet and mid/bass driver - the difference being the tweeter on top (which btw is still ‘decoupled’ it’s just that it’s not ‘on top’ in the 706 version). So isn’t the 706 the ‘budget’ alternative to the 705?
@youssefhamidi81523 ай бұрын
Just purchased these and will let you know how I like them. I will be comparing them to paradigm founders 100 series. Love love love the paradigms but i am moving from a house into a smaller home and the floor standing speakers will be just too massive for the new space.
@stevewright15392 жыл бұрын
First review that I’ve seen! Would love to hear more on the entire series.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Seeing how we came out of pocket for this one, we're going to need to pace ourselves. But THANK YOU for watching!!!
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
The towers are ex-pens-ive!! (bit.ly/3CCpsoE wowsa)
@stevewright15392 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright They are. I have two pairs of Matrix 802's that I may test the market on. The 702's may have potential. The 704's thought....how would they stack up to Lumina V's? hmmmmmmmmm
@stevewright15392 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Your money may mean a hole in my wallet. Much appreciated!
@telelaci22 жыл бұрын
It's so strange you don't compare this thing to the obvious affined competitors: 705 S2 and 705 S2 Signature. The first one became much cheaper because of the S3 appearance, and the second one is slightly cheaper, is it worse ?
@JC.LC. Жыл бұрын
Reading comments on other videos, some people have mentioned that it's hard to pinpoint the difference in sound between the 705 S2 and the 705 S3.
@jwglista2 жыл бұрын
I heard these at a local shop recently. I do agree that the midrange on them is very nice, but treble was way too fatiguing for me. This was on solid state gear, so maybe they need tubes. I actually disagree about soundstage. What I heard was huge.
@Spud_E_Buddy2 жыл бұрын
It was interesting to hear your comment about “powering” B&W’s, because I used to own the 704 S2 Towers, and although I absolutely LOVED them for music, they were disappointing in the dialogue arena IMO when it came to movies. Even after adding a center channel later on. I guess I may not have paired the right amp with them, or some other setup flaw on my part. Great review! 👍🏼
@wezzman12 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the cinema 50 review...😁
@judebronner95202 жыл бұрын
I love the new frequency graphs!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
thank you for noticing. I worked on those for about a week to make them easier to read/understand for those who (like me) may want to see it but don't want to obsess over it.
@judebronner95202 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews It's perfect and unique to your channel. Props on the innovation.
@brianlewis50422 жыл бұрын
I'm on vacation so I was able too see this video during the day. LOVED Kristi's "Let's move on" comment. Too funny. On the serious note. Was a subwoofer used in this review? The comparisons gave all of us a sense of how competitive the Bookshelf speaker market has become. Have a great day Andrew and Kristi....... Let's go 300K subs.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian! Yes, we tried the speakers with our SVS (bit.ly/3xnMlrE) and these blend very easily however, the commentary in the review is more reflective of the speaker by itself. Yeah for vacations!!
@RBHADD2 жыл бұрын
So, I have the CM10s. Series 2 did not improve enough for me to switch. Any opinions on series 3 vs series 2 or the CM10s?
@mtkreger2 жыл бұрын
Earlier this week, I received a HTM71 S3. I returned the HTM71 S2, I had, as a recommendation on the S3 was favorable to the S2. I ran ARC Genesis again to calibrate the S3 with the rest of my system. I can say that there is a very noticeable difference between the two models and how they blend with my 805 D3 fronts. I'm assuming the same would be true with the other new 700 series speakers.
@eddiebaby222 жыл бұрын
Love the wife's input, great feature 👍
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
It's what we do. Thanks for watching!
@BillyBombastic2 жыл бұрын
still got my 705 og's, then added a Rel T9 to them. I'm very happy
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
That's what matters most! Thanks for watching!
@omarseneriz55772 жыл бұрын
I currently own the 702 and love how clear they are compare to my previous 704. Thank You both for reviewing the new model. BTW.. love what you both did with your room, I looks like some is a great interior designer. Also love your camera recording style.DOF.Awesome work guys.
@hclandscapes2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of getting the 704s2 as they are on sale right now. What did you think of them?
@omarseneriz55772 жыл бұрын
@@hclandscapes I have those in my family room and the 702 in my living room. These are both excellent speakers. If you get a great opportunity to get your hands on the 704 s2 you will not be disappointed. The sound all around and details are amazing. This is why I kept both as I spend lots of time on both rooms.
@hclandscapes2 жыл бұрын
@@omarseneriz5577 I have a Hegel H120 do you think that would work well with the 704s2’s?
@pwmhurricane2 жыл бұрын
Loved this review! This one and and your upcoming 805 D4 one are super timely for a decision I'm still wrestling with. A little context before the heart of my question: I'm wrapping up a home theater project, but I'm also a music lover. Factor in having a daughter with autism and all the things that come with that, and the new theater room is also going to be used as my home office / music enjoyment space. My final gear mix pending rack and stack is listed further below. Temporarily, for budget reasons, to avoid buying 2 sets of L&R speakers, my Marantz Model 40n will be dual-purposed: - Standalone 2.1 setup for music only (vinyl, CD, Airplay 2) - 40n flipped to amp-mode for L&R when I'm running full theater off of my pre-pro. (When in theater mode, that means L&R will be on only 70W per channel vs 150W per channel via amps used for all other channels including center, which is admittedly bassackwards.) Here's the core of my question for you @Andrew / @Kristi -- I'm interested in eventually carving off the 40n for dedicated music enjoyment, and wiring the rest of the theater-use equipment to the AV8805A and 2 MM8077s. That would mean adding another pair of speakers in this same room (again, due to my daughter's situation). The 40n currently sounds SOOOO good right now with those 702 signatures and the T/9x, so I don't want to feel like I'm going down in my music quality if I carve off the 40n and get separate speakers for that. What's your take on speakers to use with the 40n if I go this route? - 705 S3 w/ my T/9x sub or maybe just a T/7x? - 805 D4, with or without a sub? I know the 40n would be underpowered for driving the higher end 800 series, but the 805 D4 doesn't take that much to drive (50-120W per B&W). In short, I'm trying to get the benefits of carving off a dedicated 2 channel music rig w/o feeling like sonics are a step backwards from the 702 Signatures I'm enjoying with the 40n as I type this. *** Gear: - Marantz AV8805A pre-pro and 2 x Marantz MM8077 amps (doing 7.2.6 setup on theater side, and AV10 and AMP10 weren't out yet when I bought these) - Marantz Model 40n - @Andrew / @Kristi this is all your fault - it's every bit as good as your review said! - Marantz CD 60 - thought I'd long-since retired from CDs but this unit's quality paired with 40n and some nice indy release stuff hs me enjoying discs for the first time in forever - vinyl rig and even a Marantz PMD-300CP for analogue goodness Speakers: - L&R: B&W 702 Signatures (some of the same tech now in the S3's) - Center: HTM71 S3 - B&W 6 x CCM7.5 and 4 x CWM 7.5 for height and surround - REL T/9x and S510 subs
@Rob1972Gem2 жыл бұрын
Going by the comments at the end of the video, that’s the whole idea of blind testing. In my opinion is you trying to catch the people out that are doing the blind testing if you throw them a curveball and they really don’t know what they’re listening to and you’ve confused them and now they’re not sure which is which must throw a bit of a spanner in the works as in two more why one piece of equipment Cost a lot more than another. I must admit I do like the piano black Bowers and Wilkins on speaker they look awesome. Never as long as I draw breath will be able to afford a bear but great video as always. I’m more excited about the top spec techniques amplifier using I would love one of those
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Blind testing can be fun and educational for sure!
@AudioElectronicsChicago2 жыл бұрын
Very elegant speakers
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Keep watching! Thanks for tuning in!
@3dfx2432 жыл бұрын
A great detailed review. Looking forward to the 805 D4 review. Which legacy B&W line tweaked your interest during your journey?
@Rickycrk2 жыл бұрын
Another great review thanks. How would you say these compare to the bowers & Wilkins formation duo’s I know you revived them a few years back.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
The Duos have more bass extension and are slightly less refined up top, BUT I believe you have tone controls in the B&W App so you could fix some of their issues (if you find them to be issues). The 705 S3s are as described in this video.
@Rickycrk2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Thanks for the reply. I brought a pair of duo’s off the back of your review and couldn’t be happier with them. I was just curious how these compared.
@MrMatthiaschevalking2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. I’m a Dutchman and over here b & w is widely sold as well. Triangle speakers however don’t really get a lot of love on your side of the pond. Could you perhaps take a look at the Esprit or Borea or even the signature series sometime? I think you would enjoy it and a lot of your European listeners as well
@priedits2 жыл бұрын
I would really like to know how you would compare midrange and treble of 705 s3 to 702 signatures?
@q5c4 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Andrew for your review WOW!! Do you have more information on the standard ?
@Boxkerp2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that you are happy with the B&W. I can't really answer your QOTD because I've never heard a B&W speaker. Well at least not focused listening, I remember hearing some at Classic Stereo high end shop back in the late 90's and early 2000, but I couldn't to afford a grill for that speaker back then, so I didn't really focus on it. I have a question for you guys, you mentioned that the 705s don't have a real wide sound stage, what brands and models can you point out that can produce those attributes? Another question do you guys own the Technics R1000? Lastly, that Denon behind you is looking freaking awesome, I can't wait for that review.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
We do not own the R1000. It is here on loan. I would look at Focal for a wider sound stage. The Utopias were amazing but at 18 grand, they bloody well better be. For something more approachable, the QA C50s fit that description (bit.ly/3ccXaGZ).
@malibuman6160 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your channel and reviews. Would love if at some point you could do a some kind of ‘historic review’ where you’d look at products in the past and compare them to the present. I.e. I have a 600 series B&W speaker system (683, HTM61 and DS3) - these are a decade old but I have no way of knowing how it would compare to speakers of today. Getting a sense of products over time would be great and never seen it done before. Also I have an arcam avr400 and thinking of upgrading it to Marantz SR7015 (as it’s now $1600 - cheaper than the new cinema 60) - so again seeing prices drop on older models, how you’d compare dollar for dollar previous generations that are higher up in the line, but now are cheaper.
@bryanfurys2 жыл бұрын
Another great episode Andrew, when we can expect 805 d4, will it be this month or :) ?
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Within the next two to three weeks.
@bryanfurys2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Great i have high hopes for them since i need to buy speakers before christmas eve to listen to music.
@st3serrot2 жыл бұрын
Team formation duos I now have besides the bass and the audio I now have a pair of the flex, another bass and the sound bar to complete my system. All I need now is the wedge
@harrydekhengst55902 жыл бұрын
I have the 705 signatures in dastuk,and want to buy the 705s3. After a long session in the store and home,the s2 signatures is better for me.Better mid and better spreading of the sound.Very close call but for me not worth it to buy the s3,for me its a downgrade.
@shivatube19702 жыл бұрын
Always great educational videos! Question, do you think 705 S3 with Rel subwoofer is better than just 702 S3? Or maybe add subwoofer to 702 S3? Thanks
@jul0w02 жыл бұрын
I'm desperate to watch the Marantz cinema Review 😮
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned then! Thanks for tuning in for this review!
@Itsss_Nemo2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. I love B&W 705s2 and B&W 702s2. They are amazing. I’m not sure how much better the new s3 compares to s2.
@BilllieJean-e9y4 ай бұрын
Andrew, what is better: 705s3 or formation duo ?
@NjålForsberg Жыл бұрын
The best view on B&W 705s3! Perfect 👍
@Landoverse2 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous speaker, love the satin white with your room decor (which I’m totally going to ape in my new house fyi). I like the large driver, too; I guess I’m the opposite of Kristi, I think cabinets are generally boring and I’d love a speaker that’s ALL-driver. Zhu comes to mind…Speaking of, why not review some Zhus?? Back on topic, I think the 705 here blows away the goofy proportions of the 805 D4. I’m no hater of the 800 series, but the 804 *D3* is on my shopping list - one of the most gorgeous speakers ever, in my opinion. Really dislike what they did with the 804 and 805 models in their D4 iterations.
@philippm.32442 жыл бұрын
Love the review! 😃😍 I'm looking forward for more B&W reviews from You 😊 Have you listened to the B&W 603 S2 Tower speakers...? Do you know if they are also disappointing as the smaller 606/607 versions?
@eddiebaby222 жыл бұрын
Blind testing is awesome! Only way to test.
@gpapa312 жыл бұрын
The million dollar brainstorm question. For fanatics of the Formation Duo sound ( I remember Kristi loving them - I was personally floored by them), IS IT POSSIBLE to achieve equal or superior audio fidelity of total frequency range (25Hz-33kHz) by combining the 705 S3s with a sub and an integrated amp (with DAC and streamer) at a total price of approximately $3,000? Note: Found the Duos w stands used at $3k hence the quote.
@gpapa312 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright thank you 🙏 Kristi for you response. It appears to me that in order to get the Formation Duos’ sonic delivery setup (int amp + DAC + Streamer + sub) you will be needing to spend way over the Duo’s general asking price. And closer to what the 805s + decent quality int amps would go for. Interesting 🤔
@dudemastermaster89442 жыл бұрын
The Duos sound totally different to the 705, I tested both side by side. I’d go with the 705 every day, although I’d prefer a different brand all along.
@gpapa312 жыл бұрын
@@dudemastermaster8944 do you mean the new 705s? I did demo the 705 S2 side by side with the Duos, and to me at least, I preferred the Duos. I found them much more complete as as speaker. Granted it was a little bit unfair given the 705s don’t have the bottom end of the Duos (which is more of a full range speaker) so I should have added a sub. But that would have pushed the overhaul price way above my preference. So the Duos seemed the better overhaul deal. The 705s had a slight edge on the high freq, more clarity but not by much Note: amps used for the 705s - Audiolab 8300 and CA CXa81.
@davidnimmo5115 Жыл бұрын
I have not watched any HiFi channel for a while but I was interested in the new B&W speakers.I enjoyed this episode that both of you are reviewing the speakers I was at one point going to buy the Signiture speakers the only thing was they did not do the centre speakers or sub. I think this could be the better choice for a surround speaker set thanks all the best🤩👍
@ChicagoRob22 жыл бұрын
Snag a mint pair of vintage B&W Matrix 805s and you will never need to upgrade. Exceptional detail and imaging and sonically more neutral and linear than current models.
@tygge89 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another excellent review! I know it's been a few years since you reviewed the B&W Formation Duo but any thoughts on the 705 S3 + a 2-3k Amp/DAC vs. the Duos?
@Juncti2 жыл бұрын
Being that we're heading towards the end of 2022, would be cool to see some type of look back episodes (maybe one for audio and one for video) where you put top recommendations for surround sound at a budget level, mid range level, and money is no object level based on units you've tested. Same with video, budget tv, mid range, and top We're rebuilding our house from a hurricane last year, and I'm definitely upgrading. Leaning towards a 77" C2 for TV but not sure what direction going with audio yet.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
We do this every year in the form of our End of the Year Awards Show. It comes out in December and it's a lot of fun!
@Mulokaj9 ай бұрын
Dear Andrew, did the 705 fit good on the stands? Did you use something to make them more steady?
@DavidBurns-sq4kd6 ай бұрын
Would these be a substantial upgrade from CM6 s2 ? I was thinking of upgrading although I wouldn’t want a bright top end or brighter I should say. Thanks for the review 👍