Drum Teacher Reacts: KAI HAHTO | Wintersun | 'Sons Of Winter And Stars' (Drum Playthrough)

[@khahto]

thank you very much Andrew!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thank YOU! New fan here. 🥁👊

[@powbobs]

Wow. Love your work.

[@Nevis1988]

Loistavaa nähdä sun aktiivisuutta näissä reaktio videoissa, törmännyt useampaan kertaan 😎 ja ei muuta kun Loistavaa jatkoa ja jaksamista 👌😎

[@rikarddrugge2521]

Listen to the entire song and you will hear all the other tones shine through even with the speed

[@CriticalRoleHighlights]

Hands down the best drummer Finland has ever produced.

[@jackstorm5649]

Some Interviewer: Hey Kai what do you do for a living? Kai: I play drums for Nightwish. SI: You seem to be in very good shape what do you do for exercise? Kai: I play drums for Wintersun. SI: Well if you play drums for a living, and for exercise what do you do for fun? Kai: I play Jazz drums. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWTRknVjgaybo7M

[@sateentuoksu]

😃😂🤘❤️

[@TheDariel1234]

and have been playing in band that do songs for kids :D kai is just awesome. and im lucky to play with him one of his clinics early 2000 and try to jam with him but ofc he outplayed me and told to keep practising.

[@sorv5790]

The fact this man was over his career so far with Rotten Sound, Swallow the Sun, Wintersun and now Nightwish is a testament to his versatility. Fantastic drummer.

[@ssc00p]

And yet Kai considers himself as a jazz-drummer... well his background is in jazz...

[@Lloocii]

Wow I love wintersun and recently found swallow the sun which blew my mind with how good they were but had no clue it was him on drums as well. It's actually kind of obvious once it's pointed out. Feel kinda dumb I didnt make the connection.

[@sorv5790]

@@Lloocii Only for 2 albums, actually. That includes New Moon though, which is my favorite album of theirs, right next to Hope. ;)

[@booasdf]

I had the pleasure of taking a weekend of lessons with Kai a couple of years back. You definitely got that that practicer part right; he said that he still, even after 40+ years of playing the drums, aims to practice an hour every single day, with mirrors in front of him, and both the left and the right side of him, on a practice pad, just working on his hand technique. And you could really tell that. You're also spot on about him being such a nice and a humble guy.

[@yeahnahmate1611]

I practice skin flute in front of mirror and on my left and right side working on my hand technique everyday.

[@masestero]

i had the chance to work for him as his tech and he was so nice he just told me to build his drum kit like i felt like and it would be fine... he didnt even change the drum kit even tho i saw him try to learn the kit... he didnt want to bother me more than needed... i was paid to do it...

[@telecatsermaster]

Whoa..

[@Ugrasrava]

Kai is the sort of technical monster that little metal drummers aspire to be when they grow up. Dude is scary good.

[@SolFaithman]

"Is this their Magnum Opus, is this Kai's time in the sun"......erm no, this is just Wintersun!!! Literally every track is like this!!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

HAHA! Awesome Richard

[@just.some.dud3]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums I would have to agree. I don't think there is a magnum opus, it's all kind of like this. Kai is an absolute legend. Great vid Andrew!

[@Esmeagolly]

I mean they also take 10 years for an album (that I happily wait for no problem) so they can do that, and make every song basicly a magnum opus

[@jynxbmd851]

Jari, the lead singer and the composer/writer, has said Starchild is his personal Magnum Opus - they have a remastered 2.0 version on YT - lyric video only though

[@mateusxavier8805]

Kai is a beast! 🔥🔥He's a very kind person and very humble, you can tell that only from his interviews. He is also always very respectful of his bandmates. Thanks for this reaction. And its one song.

[@mikegershon8528]

It was great to see how his bandmates in Nightwish accepted him so readily after Jukka left. It could have turned into a problem; instead it turned into something so wonderful.

[@biglew1161]

@@mikegershon8528 I believe Kai and Jukka are at least some what friends, I read somewhere that it was Jukka's idea for Kai to fill in for him in Nightwish. it also helps that Jukka left without bad blood between him and the other members. Jukka is also still active with Nightwish behind the scenes.

I had the honor of sitting behind Kai Hahto's kit on a Wintersun gig some eight years ago and it was mindblowing. The normal reaction would be to curl up in a fetal position and cry about how you will never be that good . But after you get past that it is one of the most inspiring thing of my drumming career. I learned more on that night than I had for years.

[@guitar_noodle]

One very long song. In the middle of the song is break from drums but Kai takes a swig then improvises through what was a drum break. He’s a beast for sure. Where does he get that energy?!

[@mike28003]

Yes I loved that part totaly improv

[@peetur123]

I saw Kai yesterday at Vaasa festival (Finland). He really is humble and nice guy.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I bet!

[@SockerConny80]

Working with metal musicians from Finland is usually a treat, I much prefer working there to here at home in Sweden. Finland is so much more chill and there is a lot less bs in the studio.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Good to know!

[@mellindrums]

I've taken three 6 hour long drum lesson sessions from Kai and he really leveled me up! Fun fact: Kai is left handed but plays a right handed kit. 😁

[@wolframreactor74]

I’d give my right arm to be ambidextrous…! ~Yogi Berra

[@flavio_spqr]

That would make Kai the "Jimi Hendrix" of drums.

[@LordBaktor]

Then I have at least one thing in common with Kai. I've always felt it was foolish to start learning a new skill, especially one that uses both hands like drumming, as a leftie. Why bother turning everything around every time I go to a lesson or a gig with a shared kit? I just learned the way most people play drums.

[@marcel1416]

I know little to nothing about drumming, but I play Snooker and Billiards as a hobby - and I for myself as a right handed person play Billiards with my left hand - and I know why: I am left eye dominant, so when I put a queue under my chin my left eye is dominantly producing the picture to my brain (and centers it around it, perspective wise) and my right eye is completing the picture. I don't know if that might be a factor with drumming, but I know a lot of sports rely on the dominant eye rather than hand dominance. But even if this doesn't matter to drumming - Kai is a beast :D

[@LordBaktor]

@@marcel1416 I would assume eye dominance is not a big factor in drumming because I spend like half my practice time with my eyes closed to feel my way around the drums rather than seeing it, but I could be a weirdo and everybody else in the world uses their dominant eye. What do I know?

[@rickphil9999]

I love the joy that Kai brings to his performances. You can just see it in the way he smiles. Carol, my wife of 41 years, and I had the great joy of watching him perform with Nightwish on May 18th, 2022, at the Warfield Theatre in San Francisco... and it was pure magic. What an amazing night. Thank you Kai and thank you Andrew for taking us through this drummer's breakdown.

[@moricoon]

Thanks for taking a look at the video. I was in the crowd and tried my camera for the first time that day, so sorry for the shaky hand and the sound.(I was too excited to watching him and got distracted sometimes... ) The cut in the middle was tho the fact that I didnt know the song at that time and thought it was over... luckily i pressed the record button again. Kai told me afterwards that is was his first clinic outside of finland. Also since he was explaining and showing some techniques to the crowd (playing/talking/playing/talking...) he had to play the whole song out of the cold, what was quite challenging.

[@mikegershon8528]

That was epic. Its so much better to hear the playthrough than the recording from a drummer's point of view. The stuff Kai does with Nightwish is like his retirement plan compared to Wintersun.

[@PK--ITA]

or also "a step higher", now he can play more calmly (not worse, he remains very good) and he probably earns twice as much and still plays and plays metal. What can you expect? I would also like to ...

[@lekalla]

Kai has played with his own style in Nightwish. After every 2 hour concert he is the sweatiest human on earth for a while.

[@uskok4636]

I dunno Tribal was pretty well done. He had to expand his drum kit to cover it

[@Songfugel]

Well, compared to Wintesun, maybe, but Nightwishe’s drums are no joke either, and considering how seamlessly they blend into the songs and melodies is a testament to how well they’ve been put together and played. The previous Nightwish drummer Jukka was actually mentored by Kai, so also in that sense it makes sense how well his style fits Nightwish

[@kurojester4513]

Yeah. Nightwish isn’t as intense as Wintersin but the technicalities are still there. Kai adds his own flare. I remember when he first joined and I saw and interview and he said that some songs took a while to get down. That section in the middle of Storytime in particular took him a while to nail.

[@erwinmulder1338]

Sons of Winter and Stars is one song, with a little 'acoustic' guitar (no drums) section in the middle. It gives Kai some time to drink some water, wipe his face and check his kit. It's only a one and a half minute break though in a song of 13.5 minutes. Fun fact: he did drum some improvised bits over the part that is actually his break.

[@lekalla]

From jazz to grindcore Kai does it all.

[@Mattseak]

Now imagine there are guys like Heikki Saari (Finntroll, Whorion, etc) for example, who had to learn this song among all the rest of the Wintersun catalogue to fill in for Kai Hahto when he was busy touring with Nightwish :D

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Good lord. HAHA

[@brothernemiel6465]

I´ve seen Wintersun live twice and both times with Rolf Pilve on the drums, and he definitely deserves some credit too. But I´ve seen Heikki with Finntroll as well and the guy is a beast on the drums as well. Same goes for Jocke Wallgren from Amon Amarth or Daniel Erlandsson from Arch Enemy, to bring in some swedish "counterparts"...I assume to play drums in metal and especially extreme metal, you need to bring a decent amount of talent and skills and tons of practice. (doesn´t mean you need to bring that for other genres of music as well though)

[@Mattseak]

@@brothernemiel6465 Since we're naming names, let's not forget Timo Häkkinen, who also played some shows with Wintersun! There are many absolute monsters out there!

[@jouniylipaunu]

There is video Heikki Saari playing with Wintersun, pleas check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYOud5WlaLaasMU

[@nightwishlover8913]

Not 2 songs.... 1 song with a break for acoustic interlude. You're right - the man is a BEAST! If you haven't already, you should listen to the actual song - live studio playthrough. You'll enjoy how Kai's drumming fits with the music.

[@NaughtyPrincessfkhandles]

and in the drum brake he insisted to just bash the drums anyway for the fun on if!

[@kaynesantor8136]

In a band like this, it doesn't really work unless everyone is on the same level. In this case, that level is outer space. They're all just crazy. He definitely is a beast. Nice work Rooney.

[@skurkela]

I have watched this video around a thousand times. I'm gonna watch it yet again. I love this man!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

So good!

[@niksur1201]

Not 2 songs, just one long unforgiving beast, although there is a drum free instrumental in the middle. You should check out the studio recording of this song.

[@Ravenwish1990]

This guy is a human metronome. I'm more used to see him with Nightwish than Wintersun. Both him and Jukka Nevalainen (former Nightwish drummer) are pure beasts.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Can’t wait to see/hear more Nicola! 🥁🙌

[@Trevor21230]

The vibes I get from them are that Jukka is a soul trapped in flesh who experiences freedom through playing the drums, while Kai is a machine with a soul that he expresses through his drums. One is about the experience of the expression, and the other is about expression through an experience; a subtle but meaningful difference which makes for two distinct but equally impressive and entertaining viewing experiences.

[@ssc00p]

@@Trevor21230 One of the cool analogies that I have read is that Jukka is the Sith Lord and Kai is the Jedi Knight...

[@mehtimies]

Kai is the best drummers in the World! From Finland 🇫🇮

[@TheDjentleman77]

I can confirm, he is a nice guy. Really chill and down to earth. 🤙🏻 and of course, an amazing drummer! 🤘🏻

[@Naksuu]

Kai has also tought like half the finnish metal drummers, my drummer included and is apparently the nicest dude ever, though giving some nightmarish lessons :P

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

HAHA! I bet

[@SgtStinger]

The look on his face when playing! It really feels like he is having so much fun to be honest!

[@timopeiponen8707]

That DrumTalk interview is good for knowing him better😉

[@Corsa096322]

I sometimes think how lucky it is that Kai and Jari met and collaborated. Jari got piece of art drums for his songs, and Kai got an opportunity to unleash his talent at 100%.

[@improbus100]

Notice also his foot work. For example at 16:51 you can see him closing the hi-hat with his left foot while doing double kick.

[@78flex]

The whole thing is one huge, 14-minute song, but it has got four "movements": The first two parts start at 2:48 and 6:25. The third part starts at 13:10 (the camera briefly pauses at 13:14). This part is normally without drums, and gives Kai some time to drink and dry off his sweat. Although, this time he is actually playing on most of this part. The final part starts at 14:59.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thank you!

[@78flex]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums you're welcome :-) I really recommend listening to the "normal" version of this song (Sonic Pump Studios live rehersal). You will find that Kais drumming is not just technical; it really fits into the song as well. You will also find out that the song is really great :-)

[@kah227]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip2YhWCdobmXjtk

[@clivematthews5296]

Yes he uses an auxilliary high hat as you noticed on his previous performance with Nightwish. By the way it might be worth listening to the whole performance to appreciate how the drumming fits into the song.

[@pro-v7500]

Looking forward to this one. Blast beats and coffee. Best way to start your day.

[@Pyllymysli]

He said "there is no way he is gonna keep it up" I went "PFFFFFFFFFFFFFT" and then came the meme and I lol'd.

[@beatnaf8429]

One of the best y ever See in my life!!!!!! MASTERPIECE 🥁🎼 This guy is a Monster Kai you are great🇫🇮

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Yes! 🥁🙌

[@gremlin2022]

The oxytocin in "that accuracy is out of control" deserves a meme LOL

[@zoolooz2327]

well if you reach that level of mastery and you haven't learned humility from the journey to get there, you've learned nothing. Hats down to Mr Kay Hahto.

[@shuriken4852]

Here is a video of Kai talking about the techniques, timings and polyrhythms he uses in this song. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHiwk3t-nMyUZ5o

[@bjhellstream]

Masterful drumming. The full band version live is so much better when you hear the drumming in it's right element. Since the camera angle is static it doesn't really add anything.

[@villematto9794]

this man is greatest from alll

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

SO GOOD!

[@darktitus]

Kai is a beast! Hope someday you could react to Nightwish - Weak Fantasy drum cam with Kai’s drum solo intro

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I'll get there!

[@SpartanGuy83]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums Yes, well worth it. BTW, thank you for all your great vids and the time you've put into them. Much appreciated!

[@legalizexit]

I went into a drum camp! kai was there as a teacher .. and I find one of the most humble guy ever! besides his passion for teaching and drumming its such a cool guy .. we talk about blast beat during a dinner and the next day he prepare a full lecture about blast beats but all the time he was smiling hahah .. a true legend and person!

[@x-Gingerbeard-x]

Be sure to check out his Rotten Sound videos too! You'll be even more amazed! Kai is a beast!

[@ssc00p]

Yeah... he played Rotten Sound without tick track on top of that...

[@x-Gingerbeard-x]

@@ssc00p True! And Rotten Sound were groovy af with Kai too! He complemented their songwriting very well!

[@hennieniceguy]

Kai Hahto is on this moment one off the greatist drummer .

[@TK-dw6np]

at 16:50 that hi-hat choking when he is playing doubles :D

[@michaelfadian]

Kai playing with Rotten Sound will melt your face. React to the Rotten Sound - Obey drum cam.

[@immaleaf4964]

I love that. 'He won't be able to keep that up for the full 13 minutes' Well, no, it gets harder, and then they give him a little acoustic break. Amazing drummer, amazing band

[@michaelsmith2723]

I recommend Kai's "Tips and Tricks" video of this song. With his normal set up he kids the left bass while using his heel to kick his HH.

[@josuediaz3123]

The fact that Kai had the drum fill, WHERE HE DOESNT DRUM IN STUDIO. What a machine.!

[@nostalgiaof98]

So many fkn parts to remember and he just beyond jigsaw pieces it together. Phenomenal.

[@NutTraces]

You should check out as much Wintersun as possible! incredibly talented folk.

[@kristiansavov6528]

​Super choice! I can't wait! C'mon, Andrew!!!

[@GAIS414]

This is going to be epic!

[@patrickmccrary3005]

I subscribed! I commented to get you to 400 comments. You are an excellent producer thank you for showcasing Kai

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks Patrick!

[@slashmacleod]

Kai is so good Pearl won't tell him what drums they give him, "here's a hybrid set, super secret, try it".... He's the SR-71 or X-15 pilot of drums, very elite crew

[@slashmacleod]

Having met Kai, he is extremely nice and super passionate, infectious human being.

[@wolverine669]

If you want to have it on good sound quality, check out the same song but as a live reherseal version.

[@compreactz]

"The accuracy is out of control" 🤣 that meant something else

[@ssc00p]

I was giggling a bit too at that 😁

[@WynEvans1]

He was destined to be a legendary drummer... his name is an anagram of HI HAT A OK

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

😮🥁🙏🙌

[@WynEvans1]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums and Andrew Rooney is an anagram of "Annoyed Rower"

[@anttipere7220]

@@WynEvans1 That's something ANYONE can REWORD

[@WynEvans1]

@@anttipere7220 you are absolutely correct Trainee Pi

[@anttipere7220]

@@WynEvans1 Yep. I read it on navy news

[@metalogical5131]

jeezus!!! dude is balls! I'm floored.... just started and I feel the need to comment

[@Isndar]

9:13-9:16 You can see Kai's technique in his right feet to 'stop' from double paddling to give way for Jari's Guitar pluck to be heard more. What a beast.

[@ratthawks]

How have I not see that video of Kai, what legend

[@jakev1579]

You should have checked this out in the live studio rehearsals. There you can hear all the instruments and how crazy this song accually is.

[@madmansurfing]

Kai is such a great drummer and a humble person. Appreciate to see he is getting love and respect for his amazing skills and the amount of training. Glad he joined Nightwish. Black Forrest Platoon reporting

[@joachimthielker3132]

Wow! What a performance! Drumming on the highest level. Overwhelming!

[@susannebass5503]

Truly awesome 😎 So many styles nice to enjoy another drummer new to me!!👍👍🔥

[@ionitydso5744]

Kai is a god, there is nothing else to say

[@anttiypya8264]

This one will be...🔥🔥🔥

[@feanrassilmaril579]

Kai is ultra top nice, kind and humble guy!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I believe it!

[@Agarwaen06]

Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy, finally. 😁

[@KeiAiEm]

It's like a drum solo during the whole song...amazing talent. Saw him live with Rotten Sound a few years back. Mindblowing!

[@RoyalMela]

Yay. I made it into a drummer video. And I am a former bassist. And it was only my comment.

[@anttikettunen8601]

Do Rotten Sound! There's plenty of drum cams from their gigs.

[@Habzqx]

Finns are just nuts when it comes to metal! Proud to be finn. It is one song.

[@sateentuoksu]

hell yeah: FYI: "Finland has the most metal bands per capita in the world." 😁🤘 Big Think, A World Map of Heavy Metal Density "With 2,825 metal bands listed in the Encyclopaedia Metallum, the figure for Finland works out to 54.3 bands per 100,000 Finns (for a total of 5.2 million inhabitants [2]). Second is Sweden, with a whopping 3,398 band entries. For 9.1 million Swedes, that amounts to 37.3 metal bands per 100,000 inhabitants."

[@eliteextremophile8895]

damn, I've always loved Kai Hahto, but never actually thought about his accuracy. He's like a machine, 100% locked in to the tempo. Alex Rüdinger is the second one that comes to my mind with as precise playing. In those straight parts the groove is so precise it almost doesn't sound human at all. Thankfully he also has great humane groove on the not-so-straight parts lol

[@WMfin]

As other's have mentioned it is one song but that interlude, the part where you were questioning this is acoustic and does not have drums during it but Kai went nuts here. As if 15 min song is not hard enough he had impromptu drum solo in the middle of it! x)

[@bloodaxis]

Kai Hahto perfection live is insane too, rotten sound in general had some insane speed with Hahto on the drums.

[@lekalla]

And Kai hits those drums hard.

[@ilkkak3065]

2002 Kai went to New York to learn more about drumming. His teachers there were Freddie Gruber and Joe Morello.

[@michaelsmith2723]

He was learning to play jazz which he integrates into his fills at times and also plays in his off time.

[@rosenbach1]

And Jim Chapin and John Riley as well, jeeeze! That's a quartet of drummers!

[@mathkampf]

"This accuracy is outta control"! That's actually the truth :D

[@music2seeconcertphotograph457]

It‘s really worth watching the official video of that song, which is filmed in a studio. Another great song by Wintersun and Kai is „Time“. Also filmed in that studio.

[@Martin2112]

If you haven't already have a listen to the Sonic Pump Studios version of this track (full band live rehearsal), seen them a couple of times and Kai was good enough to indulge my fanboyism and take a few seconds to shake my hand on his way off stage one of those times. Great drummer and a nice dude :)

[@Balalaika74]

Kai has been or is in 3 bands Nightwish - for fun "relaxed and simple" drumming Rotten Sound - for insane speed Wintersun - for completely sperging out on technical stuff

[@tespiii]

Swallow the Sun - for insane slow-mo

[@Balalaika74]

@@tespiii Aha, didn't even know that.

[@soundworks1554]

Sorry, a late addition, I'm just listening to the album entitled -Hour of the Nightingale-, which is suitable for this rainy autumn day mood. With the mention of -Swallow the Sun-, Kai's work in similar spheres with the band -Trees of Eternity- should not be forgotten.

[@sateentuoksu]

@@soundworks1554 It's a deeply touching, sadly beautiful album. Last voices of that nightingale, Aleah Stanbridge (Starbridge), the singer, wife of Juha Raivio, the guitarrist. She died at 39 years (for cancer), and they already knew it coming. Many/most of the songs reflect that - in the mood, but also the lyrics. An album you cannot listen to without crying kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZrPi4yPaqZro6c

[@leobackman290]

Hahto is a great guy, he was my drum teacher for a while back in the day. I was a kid but i remember thinking his house was the best ever. It was all metal cd:s and a bed in the middle of the living room cause the bedroom was converted to a rehersal studio... just drumkits and chinas everywhere xD

[@Isaakmedextraa]

"he just laughed about it" is finish sense of humour

[@michaelsmith2723]

There is also a drum cam of this with his double bass setup.

[@rcaniago2481]

Kai is the beast!!!... Hail from Indonesia

[@attesarkima2433]

Kai really can blast like 2 hours easily for sure! Been playing with him lot’s of tours!!!! It is just you can’t never ever play these Finnish grooves! And He is a drum educator, one of the best . So wanted to see ya even try that 😃🤣 you don’t have enough Skills 😂😂🧐

[@bocatampere]

We have pretty good metal musicians here in Finland 🤘❤️🇫🇮

[@shadegate6660]

You have some of the best. The more I delve into Finnish metal the more awesome artists I keep discovering.

[@ZonZorZerx]

Several parts song, 1500 tracks. Best song ever written.

[@wolfsonginteractive8185]

It's so funny seeing him playing this after all his work with Nightwish.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

It's just one song but the composer (Jari Mäenpää) had instrumental part in the middle which allows Kai to have a pit stop.

[@Reznor_Meeks]

I subscribed and now I’m above average size, wish I knew ! Thank you Andrew :D

[@lorddrako1990]

The studio recordings of "Hate Eternal - Faceless One" or "Hate Eternal - Behold Judas". Derek "One Take" Roddy is quite possibly one of the most technically and musically advanced drummers in the extreme metal scene, and he record directly to tape, no edits. His new project "Serpents Rise" is also amazing.

[@Nekomemi]

You forgot to mention that he didnt miss a beat on the kick drums, regardless of what was going on up top :)

[@robbietothedobbie912]

It's the symphonic metal genre that Nightwish is in, usually long songs but usually a start,climax,and finish. Kind of like acts in a show

[@DonKampela]

Jeah, Kai is a human drummachine

[@MikkoRantalainen]

This song is considered as a business card for Wintersun: "this is a bit of everything we do". The song called "Time" is considered their best song this far.

[@pbmdh]

I find "Time" to be a bit too repetitive to be considered their "best" song. To me, this is the best song they've ever released. It changes so much and has so many ideas all packed into one.

[@PapaBaush]

I wish there was a version with better quality sound. Can still appreciate how much of a beast this man is, so much going on with all limbs

[@huldradraco]

it's the same song, it just has a little drum free part in the middle. gives poor Kai a chance to wipe off some sweat and have a breather, lol. his legs must be shaking after this one!

[@NightwishArena]

Hardly. He has to keep on going full set when they play at live, and Wintersun has some pretty fast and technical songs.

[@johannwestraad156]

Lol thats Kai basically on almost every Wintersun song. 1 song 2 parts.