How to improve DAIWA or SHIMANO reel DRAG?

[@alfontana6242]

Andrew, my wife's Daiwa Ballistic Spinning reel 3000 has drag issues now after a year of fairly heavy use. Now I know how to fix it and will use those carbontex drag washers. Great video, your step by step instructions makes it now an easy fix. Thank you, Andrew

[@AndrewsKnots]

Glad to help

[@UzunKamis]

Did it work?

[@alfontana6242]

@@UzunKamis Yes, it worked. My wife and I retired both Ballistic reels and we now both have Shimano Vanford 5000 spinning reels. Light weight, 7.8 oz / fast smooth retrieve 40 inches per turn of handle. Also they hold nearly 200 yds of 40 lb braid, Berkley X9, and a smooth drag of up to 24 lbs . Heads and tails over the Ballistic 3000.

[@UzunKamis]

@@alfontana6242 I have Daiwa Legalis LT 2000 and 2500. These days my 2500 gets loose suddenly when I am casting 30 grams of jigs. I think the fabric washers are dead. I believe replacing them with carbon washers will fix this issue... I also have Daiwa Legalis 3000 and 4000. I am also thinking updating them without having issues with fabric washers.

[@alfontana6242]

@@UzunKamis In my opinion you can't go wrong with carbon washers, especially when you have to use a heavy drag on big fish.

[@krokajan1]

By any chance, haven't you played in the movie called matrix as Agent Smith?

[@AndrewsKnots]

Finally someone have noticed!

[@vernervanschalkwyk2280]

Thank you for this excellent clip. I am a teacher in South Africa and love bass fishing. I have problems with my drag on my spinning reels and will follow your advice on all my reels. I have 10 "thumbs" and not technically minded at all but this will truelly help me sort out my drag problems. Thanks again. Be blessed.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Glad it helped!

[@makeemotionslures4148]

You are grate!!! I have been lokking for someone who are in the «sone» as me. Keep om with KZbin videos. They are grate!! Greatings from Norway

[@AndrewsKnots]

I appreciate that! 👍

[@w.cameronbigler3300]

Just ordered for BG and Ballistic - looking forward to the project and the product! Great videos. Subscriber as of today!

[@AndrewsKnots]

Welcome aboard! Thanks

[@barbaraneville5036]

Interesting Upgrade to the drag system

[@AndrewsKnots]

Yes, very simple 👌

[@quanloikid1]

I bought a sheet of 200mmx400mmx0.5mm of carbon fiber for $12. I will use a heat gun to soften the carbon fiber after I've stenciled what I need and will let you know how it works out. Like your videos very much--Doc

[@AndrewsKnots]

Sounds good! Hope it will work out. 👍

[@OutdoorPeak2024]

Great video and very easy to follow. May I ask how is the grease compared to other major brand such as Ardent reel butter?

[@AndrewsKnots]

Can't comment on one in your question as I don't use it. I used to use Shimano Oil, Abu Garcia and these ones from China. All do work ok for me. Cheers

[@Sharkiyy]

Helpful video again!Thank you Andrew

[@AndrewsKnots]

Thanks for the good word 👍

[@danielalte78]

Hi Andrew, thanks for video, I bought many things from Ali after your reviews. Those vashers, I found 22x12x07 or 22x16x07 or 21x14x07 what will be best choice for fuego Lt 2000? Regards Dan

[@AndrewsKnots]

Hi, For Daiwas it's better to go with 0.5-0.6 mm. thickness. Washer size for reel in guestion is 22.5x14.5 mm.

[@I.C.Wiener110]

Thanks for the Video from good old Germany 👌 I will try this...

[@AndrewsKnots]

Have fun! Greetings to Germany!

[@donaldstephensen8654]

Thanks Andrew. I have a bolistic 1000 want to upgrade drag

[@AndrewsKnots]

Good choice!

[@jimmymcd5180]

Great videos Andrew, I’m enjoying going through them. Just one question, what pliers are you using to remove the retaining clip? The flat blades look much better than the standard ones I normally ue for such work.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Yes, flat nose ones.

[@paulhaywood1959]

hi can i have the link to the washers please,i cant see it on the film.Paul

[@AndrewsKnots]

Hi, Please check the description in this video. Cheers

[@kathleenragusa6528]

Andrew, would you know by chance the carbon washer measurements for the Daiwa Tatula LT 2000? Would appreciate. Thanks

[@AndrewsKnots]

Hi, Tatula is the same as Ballistic except Magseal as far as I know. So, it will be the same as Ballistic (check video). Cheers

[@mattdunnell2298]

Did you ever get the size? i want to order the tatula lt 2000 but don't know what size i need.

[@nadircicek5291]

Hi Andrew, love your videos. I've recently purchased a second hand Daiwa TD SOL III 2500. I've noticed the drag loosens as you pull the line, so I need to re-adjust the drag to make it tighter on every hookup. Is this an indication that the drag washers need replacing or sign of a bigger issue?

[@AndrewsKnots]

Hi, It won't be to do with drag washers. It means that when your fish takes the line, drag adjusting knob/cap spins with the spool.. How that's even possible, I don't know. Try maybe putting a little bit of grease/oil in between the spool's knob/cap and first metal spool's washer. Cheers

[@vitalijuskozevnikovas5291]

Hi Andrew, any suggestions on where I could buy smaller washers? 12 mm outer diameter and 4mm internal. Thank you.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Possibly you'll have to ask sellers, as listed in the description, to cut some for your specific needs.

[@paramidge8935]

Good stuff - thanks. It is ridiculous that the manufacturers will not make the drag stronger and more sensitive in the first place - it is not difficult or expensive.

[@AndrewsKnots]

In general most drag systems are acceptable just some Daiwa LT reels has sticky ones.. Not too sure whether it's because of the type of the felt used or grease or something else. Anyway, carbon washers are the way to go in my eyes.

[@adam_karateka]

Great video Andrew, I can't find carbon washers for my daiwa legalis 3012. 😔 I should mention I Do not have the digital measuring device so can't measure the washers

[@AndrewsKnots]

There is a very high chance that your Legalis will have the same size drag washers as other Daiwa LT reels (I checked Fuego, Ballistic, Luvias..).

[@adam_karateka]

@@AndrewsKnots thank you I will measure them as best I can and get some ordered thanks 👍

[@adam_karateka]

@@AndrewsKnots I have the 3012 legalis not the LT version

[@AndrewsKnots]

As you said, you will have to measure (y).

[@adam_karateka]

@@AndrewsKnots got some calipers in the mail then will order washers from the link below. Is it best to go with slightly smaller or slightly larger if exact size cannot be found? Cheers Andrew 👍

[@danielcanudo4147]

Hi Andrew the washers size of The fuego 2500 is The same o the 3000?

[@AndrewsKnots]

Yes.

[@intervolleymanchester]

Great video and very informative as usual ! Would you be able to advise what size of of drag washer from carbontex is required for 2021 Daiwa Fuego 2000S-XH? I am struggling to find the definite answer . Thanks in advance for your help. Best Regards, Arek.

[@AndrewsKnots]

The same as older Fuegos.

[@intervolleymanchester]

@@AndrewsKnots thanks soo much!! 👌👍

[@fofen1]

Hi Andrew.. do you know the measurement for Daiwa Fuego LT 3000 D - XCH ? Thank you....

[@AndrewsKnots]

Don't have this size but almost sure that it will be the same as other Fuegos. ✌

[@fofen1]

@@AndrewsKnots thank you Andrew

[@tonchido]

My penn slammer 3 doesnt have soft drag setting,its preety hard ro engage it.first time i see this,and its my first penn reel.

[@marcopodera8242]

Hello Andrew, can you help me with the measure that it will use on carbontex on fuego 2500 LT medium spool? Best regrds.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Hello, You will need 3 pieces of: -outer diameter 22.5 mm. (can be smaller) -inner diameter 14.5 mm. (can be bigger) -0.5-0.6 mm. height

[@marcopodera8242]

Hi Andrew,j found in the link you indicated,this measure: 21×14×0,5mm.Is it good for the fuego 2500?Best regards.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Hi, Yes.

[@gavin7706]

More quality advice 👍 Cheers Andrew. Tight lines bud 🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣

[@AndrewsKnots]

Cheers, Gavin 👍

[@expertchannel]

I have a Daiwa Fuego CS LT 2500. Does anyone know the size of carbon washers for this? Thank you

[@AndrewsKnots]

The same.

[@expertchannel]

@@AndrewsKnots Thank you Andrew. Great videos!

[@preiudeh22a]

Im about to buy the 5000 ballistic for a 9ft medium bass pro ocean master rod. Do you know the measurements for those washers in that size?

[@AndrewsKnots]

Not really BUT my guess is they will be the same as all other sizes of Fuegos and Ballistics are the same (2000-4000). Cheers

[@joey1957]

For most reels carbon drag washers can be a great upgrade. If you’re an ultra light fisherman for trout and use 2-4 lb carbon drag washers are not superior to a properly maintained reel using oil and felt.

[@AndrewsKnots]

I would not agree re "drag washers are not superior to a properly maintained reel using oil and felt" when it comes to most smaller Daiwa LT reels (like Fuegos, Ballistics). The drag is sticky and unrealiable no matter how much you oil it. Once you put carbon drag washers, the problem just goes away! 👌

[@WojtasJ7]

what diameter of carbontex dragwasher would you recomment for fuego and exceler 2000? thx

[@AndrewsKnots]

Can't comment on Exceler (but my guess it that it will be the same as Fuego). Fuego 2000 and 2500 use the same as mentioned in the video. 👍

[@TheFilet13]

Hi Andrew i really love your videos very informative simple , straight forward a lit bit of advertising but nothing too pushed , and you always reply to your comments true gentelmen. May I ask about the tool you used to measure, where did you get it from and also what is it called? Many thanks

[@AndrewsKnots]

Hi, Thanks for a good word. It's called "calibre" in english, I believe. I got it from Ali, I believe. As this one tiny.cc/woavkz Cheers

[@reaguurder1285]

Hello Andrew, I think i am going to buy the Fuego LT 1000 for my kuying TTS642UL, but i have one question: Do you know if the size of the washers is the same as the 2500 reel etc.? Keep on i love your videos and upgrade tutorials!

[@reaguurder1285]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/goPZqKxvZ9p7gdE Looks like there is only one felt washer in 1000 serie. 🤔

[@AndrewsKnots]

Yes it will. And, yes, only 1 washer on 1000/2000 sizes (or at least never models)! These reels with 1 washer has better drag than other LT reels with 3! True story.

[@acejuice3953]

Hey question? Is it necessary to lubricate or grease the drag washers I always thought to keep them clean then once someone told me to use a dab of break oil, as they work like a brake system, I thought in that particular way aswell if you think about it compresses down for them disc to slow and tighten the drag, won't grease or oil make them work oddly or if you don't grease them can they burn up on a heavy fish. I've always cleaned them out. Never had a issue what's your thought??

[@AndrewsKnots]

On carbon washers it seems to make little difference in performance whether they are dry or not. Just possibly oiled will last longer.

[@tobiasjessen8841]

Is it the 22x16x0,7 mm version you ordered from AliExpress for this video?

[@AndrewsKnots]

Please watch the video once more and pause the moment where there is a list of things I ordered for my reels (and specific reels models)..

[@SpyridakisSpearfishing]

I have a daiwa emeraldas reel the drag seems to work just fine to me. Could you suggest me a few tests that can prove that? Overall it hasnt failed me at any point , and because of that reel i have trust in the daiwa atd drag system. ( the daiwa emeraldas model that i have is not a part of daiwa's lt reels)

[@AndrewsKnots]

If it works ok and is smooth, you don't need to upgrade it. Probably the best test as at the start of the video (let the reel drop whilst holding the line); it should be smooth.

[@SpyridakisSpearfishing]

@@AndrewsKnots well did that thing and it rolls down pretty smooth and consistent soo i guess it has a good drag system . Ain't so surprised since its for eging a style of fishing that requires extremely good drag system .

[@AndrewsKnots]

@@SpyridakisSpearfishing fair enough.👌 Carbon washers will improve it even further though

[@silverfox2573]

hiya andrew , great video's , great to watch, and very help full, great channel ,plenty info, for every body. just tried the link for the grease , and it no longer in stock with that supplier , do you know of another stockist, cheer's Andrew , done a quick search , found another supplier , on the same site, doh, cheer's

[@soberzx]

Hi, I have a question. Does this replacement work at big pit reels? I have a Shimano Ultegra 5500 XSD.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Most reels will have some kind of washers to enable the drag to work. It is just the case of taking reel apart and measuring what you need. ✌

[@soberzx]

@@AndrewsKnots Thank you for your answer

[@delwigzieful]

Albert i repair reels these washers are excellent just measure your washers inside your spool it will make your reel feel absolutely awesome and yes they work on any type of reel as long as you measure them correctly ALIEN

[@soberzx]

@@delwigzieful Thank you

[@soberzx]

@@delwigzieful Hi, could you tell me the thickness of the drag washer? I can't measure it.

[@jasonashmore8986]

Would you know which size washers to get for diawa ninja 4000 reel at all

[@AndrewsKnots]

I don't have the reel in question myself BUT very big chance that the size will the same as mentioned in the video (valid for Fuegos, Ballistics and even Luvias). Cheers

[@jasonashmore8986]

@@AndrewsKnots thank you for your reply and your content it is very interesting

[@jessevanhoogstraten6841]

Just added the 21x14x0,7 this works perfect!!!

[@Rich-lures]

This can work with daiwa ninja LT 3000 c ?

[@AndrewsKnots]

Most likely.

[@EuIenspiegel]

will this ruin the saltwater capabilities of the daiwa fuego? i think they use some kind of special oil and carbon washers can rust easily dont they?

[@AndrewsKnots]

No.

[@EuIenspiegel]

@@AndrewsKnots nice thanks

[@gentleman.angler]

Hello! What Grease do you use for metal gear and other metal part of the reel?

[@AndrewsKnots]

Hi, The one in video description 👌

[@gentleman.angler]

@@AndrewsKnots then it is good for all parts of the reel!

[@lesrinehart933]

Corrosion X

[@jimmyfaherty8588]

So, I have ferrous fluid. Will upgraded drag to carbon screw up the ferrous fluid?

[@AndrewsKnots]

How it would happen? If you are talking about Daiwa's MAGSEAL, then reel's drag and main shaft are separate things.

[@tommysmith4525]

Hi Andrew could tell the size of washers for Shimano stradic ci4+ 3000 and 4000 please

[@AndrewsKnots]

Please watch the video once more 👍

[@lesrinehart933]

The new Shimano Stradic ci4 plus comes with carbontex washers

[@AndrewsKnots]

Yes bigger sizes do, I believe 👌

[@NLQuint]

The Abu Garcia revo mgx too… 😉

[@Secrimsoc]

Thank you for this informative video!!! I subscribed.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Thanks for the sub!

[@jp040759]

WOW.. Very cool demo at your intro.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Glad you like it!

[@elwooddestiny11blues20]

Hi Andrew . Considering our reels are practically the same . Am i right in saying that the size i need is 22x12x0.7mm for the drag washers ? I will leave a message with the seller that they was recommended by you on your channel .

[@AndrewsKnots]

Hey, Your mentioned 22x12 mm. would not fit Ballistic 2000 LT for sure because your suggested internal diameter is too small as those reels have aluminum washer with 4 uprights (please watch the vid again). Basically, all LT reels I checked (Fuego 2000, 2500 and Ballistic 2000) do take 22.5x14.5 mm. washers. As for the thickess, I would say it's safer to go with 0.5 mm. because bail has very little tolerance when opening it and drag is slack on smaller reels (for example 2000 size can have issue with 0.8 mm. thick washers BUT 2500 is fine with 0.8 mm. washers). Still, all above said, please measure yourself and don't trust what I said because you are looking to pimp different reel. Hope this helps. Cheers

[@elwooddestiny11blues20]

@@AndrewsKnots Cheers for your reply Andrew . Im not seeing the sizes you mentioned on the links you gave . I was guessing it to the nearest size they had . I was gonna measure them before ordering but the links you gave dont seem to have the sizes you mentioned (22.5x14.5 mm) .

[@elwooddestiny11blues20]

@@AndrewsKnots Apologies , long day .

[@AndrewsKnots]

Yes, closest to that size, just you have to think if it will fit.. For example for my Daiwa LT reels I ordered 21x14x0.5 mm. and they are great. As here tiny.cc/wsbvkz Cheers

[@elwooddestiny11blues20]

@@AndrewsKnots Excellent Andrew . Cheers for that . My Cals drag grease come today . I must , its very good . I will leave a message with the seller letting them know i ordered because of you and your channel .

[@gentleman.angler]

Hello i watch all your upgrade videos for Daiwa reel after i see the first video i upgrade the bearings of my Fuego reel Knob handle. Now after watch this im going to upgrade the drag washer.But I'd be very interested in how to upgrade the bearing of the Daiwa Fuego line roller. Please can you help me!?

[@AndrewsKnots]

Hi, For my needs line roller on Fuegos does work ok. What problems do you have with it? Cheers

[@gentleman.angler]

Andrew's Knots Any serious problem but i watch another video from other channel that he change the plastic bearing with metal bearing of the line roller and the reel work smother than before. But the guy of other channel block the comments section so i cant contact with him. Im interested to find the size or the series of this bearing. Thank you my friend for your time.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Fair enough. I will consider having a look at my Fuegos line roller at some point. Cheers

[@gentleman.angler]

@@AndrewsKnots Watch this kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJjNfYyngtqBhJo&t=912

[@mgolijanin86]

@@gentleman.angler I replaced that ballbearing in line roler. And now its unbeliveable good, its always so smooth. Dimension of that ballbearing for line roler is 3x6x2,5 mm. You can find that pice on Alliexpress for less than 1$. Important thing is that only you must remove plastic colar with little metal pice and put ballbearing instead of that. And to make evrything work perfectly you must order 2 metal miniature washers with exactly this dimensions 3x5x0,3 mm and place them on both sides of the ballbearing. if you need help finding and assembling these things you can contact me, I will help you. the same goes for you Andrew

[@nivenniven9108]

Wao hello from Mauritius island was very usefull thx you so much

[@AndrewsKnots]

Glad it was helpful!

[@donaldstephensen8654]

How can I get warrsher for diawa 1000 bolistic?

[@AndrewsKnots]

There is very high chance that washers for Daiwa Ballistic 1000 LT are the same size as 2000. So, all the info is in the video. Cheers

[@donaldstephensen8654]

@@AndrewsKnots ok great thanks boss

[@73chevy22]

Didn't see this question asked already, but how is the ability to lock down the drag compared to the factory washers? Can your drag still tighten as much or does it slip more when cranked way down? Like the videos, thanks. 👍

[@AndrewsKnots]

I haven't noticed any problems with 'locking down'. On the other hand, if you fish often 'locked down', you should consider staying with felt as this video is about upgrading drag's performance.

[@73chevy22]

Thanks. No, I don't, with some fly reels this could cause you to lose the ability to get a stiffer drag if needed, just didn't know if this would happen with a spinning reel. Thanks again.

[@theheck5176]

Cool informative video. Thanks!

[@AndrewsKnots]

Thanks

[@delwigzieful]

Had carbon washers in my drag for years andrew i maintain all my own reels strip them all down and lubricate them replace any parts that show wear i have a passion for shimano reels they make the best gear systems in the woirld in my opinion also daiwa make some nice reels ALIEN

[@AndrewsKnots]

Yes, Daiwa and Shimano are the best when it comes gears etc, I believe. Still, as you say, Shimano may have better internals.. I prefer Daiwa's over Shimano's because of thin bail on Shimano BUT still use both. 👍

[@elwooddestiny11blues20]

Daiwa fan here for my predator fishing !!!

[@delwigzieful]

Daiwa are notorious for there drag system ALIEN

[@AndrewsKnots]

I have plenty of other Daiwas (like TDR's, TDM) and drag systems in them are super. From what I tried seems that only LT series are not the best.

[@delwigzieful]

TDR Reels should be there the top price coarse reel ALIEN

[@mitzij]

Nice video mate! What can you tell me about the lifetime of these carbon washers? The lifetime of the carbon washers is better than the felt ones?

[@AndrewsKnots]

Yes they are!

[@mitzij]

Andrew's Knots thank you! I will order for my shimano sienna fd and daiwa ninja 😁

[@jessevanhoogstraten6841]

Pancu Adrian i also want to upgrade my Daiwa Ninja 4000 LT washers. Do you know te size that fits?

[@mitzij]

@@jessevanhoogstraten6841 i have daiwa ninja 2000 LT and for this size of reel the washer size is the following: EXTERIOR: 22mm INTERIOR: 14mm THICK: 1mm Get one of the felt washers out and measure it because only when i got mine out i found out the 2000 size has only one washer compared to the sizes above 2000 witch have 3 washers. And one more thing you should know: on aliexpress the carbontex washers come in one piece (there is not a set)

[@jessevanhoogstraten6841]

@Pancu Adrian many thanks for your comment. Cheers and tight lines

[@ibezyv7710]

Does daiwa certate have good drag washers?

[@AndrewsKnots]

I don't have Certate myself. The most expensive Daiwa I have is Luvias 2020 and it had felt washer. 👍

[@ibezyv7710]

@Justin Bradburn where can I get those carbon drag washers

[@ibezyv7710]

@Justin Bradburn thanks

[@elwooddestiny11blues20]

Lol . I Just ordered some Cals drag grease a few days ago . Bought 2 Daiwa 17 prorex 2000D LT lat week and the drag out the box is very sticky .

[@AndrewsKnots]

Nice reels. From what I can gather they are the same as Ballistics just without Magseal. 👍

[@elwooddestiny11blues20]

@@AndrewsKnots Thats the only difference i could see on the specs info . I dont fish salt yet so wasnt any need for magseal for me . I got them because the colours match my rods . Ive also got the 2500 size coming this week too . They are super light weight . Bearing upgrades for spool would also be good video . AliExpress has some good cheap bearings . I saw your video on changing bushings for bearings . That was a great watch . Maybe a bearing cleaning video to get rid of the gunky grease and lubricate with a light oil . Now that would be cool .

[@AndrewsKnots]

Thanks for suggestions 👍

[@billstanley5317]

Hi Andrew, followed link for shimano washers and unsure if price is per washer or as in the picture (about 14 washers shown) - just wondered if you could help. Really useful channel.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Hi, It's per washer. Cheers

[@jeffnaval4894]

Hello my friend. My shimano vanford comes with 24lb drag. is there a way i can increase it up to 30lbs drag or more?

[@bloke5874]

LOL! 😜

[@Sailor_Zeb]

Awesome! Gr8 tips!

[@AndrewsKnots]

Glad you like them!

[@darnsarf]

Where do you get washers from

[@AndrewsKnots]

Ali.

[@darnsarf]

What does that mean

[@Pray4Mojo1]

I just use grease from my grease gun for my truck. Usually Lucas Red n' Tacky. I tried Lucas heavy duty on a baitcaster once and it was too thick.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Thanks for sharing.

[@christopherjackson5275]

your brilliant Andrew . get a job for daiwa .

[@AndrewsKnots]

Thanks ✌

[@brycemmcclure]

This video is from 2020. Can anyone speak on the improvements made with Daiwa's newly released ATD (advanced tournament drag) system? Is this process still an improvement considering Daiwa's new ATD? They apparently use a special drag grease with variable viscosity. If using the same drag Daiwa grease would it still be an improvement to add carbon fiber washers? What drag washers do they even use in the 2022 release Daiwa's with ATD?

[@AndrewsKnots]

As far as I know, drag washers for 2022 LT reels will be the same as per video. I personally prefer carbon drag to felt on any reel.

[@kokkoman666]

Great video, i just had to subscribe.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Welcome aboard!

[@thesovietonion4671]

Nice video, what country are you from?

[@AndrewsKnots]

I was born in Lithuania. Cheers

[@thesovietonion4671]

Andrew's Knots oh I thought you were Russian or Ukrainian

[@AndrewsKnots]

Close shot!

[@delwigzieful]

Andrew i replaced washers in 6 reels today all with these carbon washers you recommend they truly transform a reel i got a pack of 21 washers for £1.05 thats crazy prices absolutely awesome Andrew ALIEN

[@AndrewsKnots]

Glad to hear it worked out for you well ✌

[@UzunKamis]

Where did you get them for that price?

[@jackt7542]

Does this make the reels fast drag?

[@AndrewsKnots]

I wouldn't say so.

[@fishingsauce]

You will loose ATD once you replace the drag felt washer to carbon washer since ATD is result of ATD drag grease. Not sure if ATD grease would work with carbon drag washers.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Happy to loose any marketing term, if the reel does not perform which was/is the case with some LT series reels with 3 felt washers.

[@elwooddestiny11blues20]

Very informative Andrew . Well done mate . You should make them to size and sell them on ebay . I would buy them from you .

[@AndrewsKnots]

Thank you. Will consider selling stuff 👍

[@fadelover123]

"people think you need to spread the grease with your thumb, I don't think I need too" The whole point of grease is to impregnate the washer with grease so salt can't.

[@TiejunGao]

I don't know, but it seems to me the body and gear is designed to sustain that much of drag, can you really improve the drag by doing that?

[@AndrewsKnots]

If reel's drag is poor, these washers do improve it.

[@saintmartinfireangler2401]

Thank you for this informative video. you somehow look like the guy in the Matrix. god bless you always!

[@Gytis06]

Any1 know daiwa ninja 4000lt-c washers size?

[@AndrewsKnots]

If you have it. just measure it.

[@gRosh08]

Well Done!

[@AndrewsKnots]

Thanks.

[@edgarasivanauskas9888]

very very good video :)

[@AndrewsKnots]

Thank you! 👍

[@SolrosenGaming]

Hey again anglers and Andrew, this is a comment I should've made a year ago after actually ordering and testing carbontex washers for myself, and oh boy do I have things to say. For those that dislike reading here's a TLDR: Felt washers are absolutely superior and the only application where carbon washers makes sense is during saltwater fishing for really big and strong fish that pull A LOT of drag over a long period of time, since they are more durable. So my suspicion in my old comment was correct, the ATD functionality completely disappears when you swap to carbon washers, making your drag less functional overall. Some would say that the "ATD" function is similar to all drags using felt washers, and that might be partly true but from my testing, Daiwas ATD drag works way better and is smoother than other brands drag systems that use felt. You can essentially think of Daiwas ATD drag power as being over a "spectrum", let's say you set the drag to 1kg of stopping power, the drag will still output that power between approximetaly 0,7kg to 1,5kg DEPENDANT on how slow/soft or fast/hard the line is being pulled. There are THREE major reasons why this is the optimal way for a drag to work. 1. It amplifies your connection with the fish beyond that of your rod, you get a way better feel of how the fish is behaving, you can tell what the fish is doing at all times by how the drag moves, even other anglers next to you can realize this by simply just listening to the drag clicks. 2. Setting the hook feels and performs way better since when you pull fast and hard, the drag stiffens and increases it's stopping power making the hookset better throughout the motion of your arms, even on a lighter dragpower setting. 3. The nuanced stopping power puts less stress on line and leader, on a big fish you can tighten down the drag and pull slowly but firmly and STILL hear those slower clicks from the drag ensuring you that the line is not going to break since the drag is still slightly moving, absorbing stress away from the line. I would say that the difference is night and day, with the carbon washers the ATD drag functions like any other shitty drag, let me explain. When pressure is being put on the carbon drag, it "sticks". If you have it set to 1kg of stopping power, it will ONLY move if the line experiences at least 1kg of pulling power. Imagine it like this when you play a fish: The drag Sticks and doesn't move.... sticks..... sticks.... sticks..... then BAM the fish pulls enough to reach your drag setting and the drag starts SURGING, "BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" as if you have no drag at all. There is no nuance, no extra stopping power that hinders the fish from rushing. It only moves at atleast 1kg of pulling power, and then just continues moving at the same constant rate until the fish stops. This feels even more awful when you make a hookset, if you don't have a very high drag setting then your arms and rod will end up behind your head, since once you go over the set drag power your arms will just continue moving since the drag has no more stopping power to give. As i stated in the TLDR section, the only time where carbon washers is a better option is when you're fishing for giant fish that rushes and pulls A LOT of drag over an extend period as the carbon washers are much more durable. But for essentially every other type of fishing felt is superior as it gives you way more sensitivity and "finesse". That's my two cents, consider this a sort of "warning" if you will to the reality that is carbon washers. If you happen to personally like the way that carbon drags feel, then that's fine, but in more objective terms the felt washers just work better. Thanks for reading this "essay". Hope you learned something, and maybe you even reconsidered into not ordering carbon washers or perhaps changing reel entirely!

[@snapsnag]

I Agree. Very accurate explanation. I mainly use a Daiwa reel for the type of fishing that I do and switching to a shimano reel if I only feel I need to use thinner polyester lines due to shimano offers small reels and shallower spools. I always prefer Daiwa's ATD drag performance, it is my benchmark in some test that I do. Especially I do light games and drag performance is really on the top of my priority. I was surprised the new 2022 Soare BB models from shimano comes with Carbon Drag washers even the 500 series. I immediately swapped it with original shimano felt from Hedgehog after using it a few times. The stock drag for me was really unpredictable, it even do a over surge sometimes in a middle of the fight which causing my line to slack and lose the rod bend

[@AndrewsKnots]

Personally don't any problems with either of materials or marketing terms companies use to describe one thing or another. This particular video was more pointed towards those people who are not happy with their reels drag performance. Some Daiwa LT series reels/sizes had/has serious problems where drag is bad due to stickiness and replacing washers to carbon ones I've found improved a lot. In any case, thanks for detailed explanation!

[@fionnehs]

None of your links work anymore, it would be great to update them.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Most listings gone and not available on ali.

[@errolflyne4630]

great

[@AndrewsKnots]

Cheers.

[@bloke5874]

So, an excessive amount of Chinesey Aliexpress grease is better than a light smear of say, Shimano DG07 drag grease? 😵‍💫

[@AndrewsKnots]

As far as I see it, use what works for you! I got expensive Shimano grease that is absolute garbage; so, if name is more important than performance, you know what to do!

[@bloke5874]

LOL! Silly bugger, of course your expensive Shimano grease is rubbish. What did you expect buying it from Aliexpress? ROFL! 😜

[@SolrosenGaming]

Hi Andrew, do you know if swapping the oiled felt to carbon washers compromises the functionality of Daiwas "ATD" drag system? ATD stands for "Automatic tournament drag" I believe, and works in the way that if your drag is set to 2kg, the drag will still move if lighter and slow pressure is being put on the drag by either you or the fish, but when you pull hard and fast on the drag its full power setting activates. So when you set the hook or when the fish rushes the drag uses its current highest power setting, and when gentle and slow pressure is being exerted it can still move, this is what makes Daiwas ATD drag so smooth. So my worry is that could it be possible that carbon washers will lessen or maybe even completely remove this feature, what are your thoughts? Here are two videos demonstrating how it works: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ6bZIKLbbWkorM kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZzYgIakd5llasU

[@AndrewsKnots]

Can't comment on that. In general carbon washers improve drag a lot on any reel. So, ATD should be even better..

[@fadelover123]

atd has to do with the arangement of washers making a certain pressure. Carbon wont affect anything.

[@SolrosenGaming]

@@fadelover123 is that so? Interesting... Is there anywhere one can read about it as I'm very curious as to how it works? I have ball bearings and carbon washers being delivered to me, I will experiment with some form of scale to measure if the ATD function is still there after swapping out the felt. Anyhow, thank you for the reply!

[@panteleimondouvros5584]

@@AndrewsKnots ​ Hei, you have destroyed the ATD Functinality of the reel, the new drag washer material and the spesial type of grease makes the ATD system, so the grease you put is Wrong. Daiwa doesnt sell this grease only hitena, with 4 different types of ATD grease, the UTD from the other hand is a complete other type of grease, read under and you will understand: 1. Another key feature of the new Saltiga spinner is the “automatic drag system” or ATD in short. Daiwa’s ATD uses a new drag washer material and a new grease that not only dissipates heat quickly but also enables the reel to apply smooth and consistent start up drag pressure right from the start. For example, if the reel’s drag pressure is set to 7kg, there is very little variation in the initial start up drag to achieve a consistent 7kg drag pressure compared to the previous generation UTD drag system. 2. What is ATD ? ATD or Automatic Tournament Drag is a new introduction into Daiwa spinning reels. A major drawback with many drag systems is that they are not smooth at the beginning of the drag, ATD rectifies this issue. ATD works like this, at the beginning of a strike the drag starts smoothly, then increases to its pre-set drag rating in a fraction of a second, thus eliminating line breakage at the strike.

[@fishingsauce]

@@panteleimondouvros5584 Yes. And Hitena grease is bloody expensive as well. XD Love ATD except for squiding.

[@lesrinehart933]

That’s a bit much grease perhaps just tacky will do

[@AndrewsKnots]

Seems to work ok but other people suggested similar as well .. ✌

[@lesrinehart933]

Andrew's Knots well it makes your drag smoother and too much will make it to smooth you will lose drag. ~ tight lines

[@pablomendez511]

Now, thats a lot of grease!

[@AndrewsKnots]

Yes.

[@azizabdullah7599]

thats a lot of cheese..i mean grease..XD

[@AndrewsKnots]

😂

[@janjan143lelis4]

Are bore

[@rumcoke9123]

you are putting too much grease on

[@giovanysantiago5892]

Way too much grease.

[@AndrewsKnots]

Cool. Thanks for sharing.