Android 13 Desktop Mode is BROKEN! Let's FIX IT!

[@gregoryaul2005]

I think a functional desktop mode should be a must👍👍

[@xedo-aa]

Yeah! Shut up and take my money feature for me!

[@wesperitiochannel2309]

yeah i totally agree

[@trey_a_12]

With the new iPhones having USB-C, I’d REALLY like for them to have a Dex mode like these can do.

[@ruslansmirnov9006]

smartphones and their operating systems are NOT designed to be a constantly working horsepower - they are either going to overheat real fast, or degrade their battery capacity real fast; plus, damage to PCBs in less than half a year are likely

[@Jdjdjdjdhfjbgdgjd]

I mean iPadOS had an attempts at it, it wasn’t very good but it is something

[@kaojaicam]

You're fighting the good fight young man. Keep going. We need this.

[@FAT8893]

To this day, we only see Samsung, Huawei, Honor, Motorola, and LG develop custom Desktop Mode. Sony, OnePlus, and Vivo may not have their own, but they do at least give video output. We really should make Desktop Mode mainstream since it can easily be someone's only computer ever need. I know people who come from ChromeOS start using Desktop Mode and don't miss buying a Chromebook laptop.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's a shame. RedMagic has a streamlined console mode. TCL had a solid desktop mode, but it only worked with their specific glasses. The Surface Duo had a home screen view. We keep getting tastes of this idea. I wish another company would just go for it.

[@kankantona9070]

​@@SomeGadgetGuythe main problem is, only tech guys care abt this, average ppl happy with their current phone

[@ЛампияСамсунговна]

Кто будет покупать компютеры?

[@FAT8893]

@@kankantona9070 That's why we need more videos like this. Average consumers can only have their phone as their main PC.

[@davinhunt7558]

I got my Xperia 1 V recently and was surprised how powerful the GPU is. I was also surprised the desktop mode has regressed since trying to use my OnePlus 7 Pro in its experimental form many years ago now. It's insane how powerful these chips are and it feels like the Google or the device manufacturers intentionally have hampered the desktop functionality.

[@Jehutymmt]

Does using desktop mode on the Sony Xperia make the phone hot?

[@wilsont1010]

Does the Sony has s desktop mode?

[@davinhunt7558]

@@wilsont1010 you can enable it but it is not functional in the slightest

[@SRC267]

I tried desktop mode on my TV, setup taskbar app. But didn't have a wireless kb/m, fail. TV screen has no touch, and i don't have a USB docker for wired kb/m. Massive L.

[@BrianGlaze]

I've never understood the idea of limiting a device because it affects the sales of another device because the logical thing to do would be to make a suite of features that enhance the usability of both when you bring them together. For example if the pixel 7 Pro had video out and you were able to connect it to an external monitor or to your Chromebook, all they would have to do is create some reason (obviously not a reason that breaks a feature...we don't want to go the Apple way 😂) for a person to have both if they want people to purchase both devices.

[@farishanafiah8461]

You don't have to go as far as seeing Stage Manager for iPadOS. Only the top end iPad Pro models got it.

[@NigelMelanisticSmith]

One of my favorite features about LG screen mirroring is that if for some reason you couldn't use screen plus, you had an option to resize your phone to 16:9, so that normal app usage would provide no letterboxing. I can't get anything analogous on my Z Fold 3.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

LG nailed that. I don't know about the zfold, but the app Second Screen might help.

[@harysviewty]

You can also change aspect ratio on screen+ mode

[@NigelMelanisticSmith]

@@harysviewty Nice! I must have somehow missed it. I tried the second screen app mentioned in the first reply, and it didn't work for me on Samsung. LG really spoiled me

[@Strugglin]

I miss LG..

[@squ1dbird]

There's an app called resolution changer on the play store that actually lets you switch your aspect ratio. I thought you'd have to root your phone, but you don't. You could try that. Might get a little annoying to switch back and forth between ratios, but it might work

[@SlightlyCursedVideos]

I am a developer, but not android developer. I own Sony 1IV as well. From what I see it's fixable for this device. App seems to call for stock Android multiwindow implementation which is broken, however Sony use their own multiwindow implementation. In theory if we call Sony's methods, it might display UI correctly

[@blurch]

Have you gotten that working? I've got an Xperia 5 IV, and I can't get it working.

[@thehollowbox]

Literally rediscovered your channel after watching his vid yesterday. Going to try and turn my phone into a streaming box when I come home and plug it into the TV to charge after a long day.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's such a fun project to try!

[@thehollowbox]

@@SomeGadgetGuy PS. Thankyou for being such an amazing tech creator. You balance these projects and standard phone reviews so well. And go beyond the Samsung vs Apple bubble to show off other brands you miss from the "big" channels.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's a little more fun when play with ALL the toys 😁

[@stevepogue1124]

You can do it. I do it all the time, but with locally-stored video and free video streaming, like KZbin.

[@thehollowbox]

@@stevepogue1124 Do you use a controller? Or mouse and keyboard to navigate? Im finding there are still times I need to get up and interact with the touch screen when just using a controller.

[@ruben79nyc]

I wish Google would add that support for video out with the Pixel devices so I could plug in my Pixel 7 Pro and use it on a portable monitor. I guess they're afraid it would affect their Chromebook sales.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

And now getting more manufacturers supporting Android tablets again. Don't want to scare them off with phones that can do more than "just phone things"...

[@ruben79nyc]

@@SomeGadgetGuy I agree sir.

[@jack5mikemotown]

just to be clear, i dont believe that its not supported, its just straight up disable. super unfortunate, but when i had a pixel i used scrcpy to get some of that functionality on to my computer

[@drishalballaney]

there are rumors that the pixel 8 might finally have display out

[@Vav_01]

Thank you for a video, was waiting for something like this for a while. Bummer that in the end I still can't use desktop mod on 1 IV properly

[@yash1152]

9:29 wow, what's that? 2 phones connected to some contraption & one being used as controller? what is the name of this contraption & controller app?

[@mgz0305]

I'm so glad that you are keeping up with this oh so needed feature!! Also happy to see how it works with Xperias firsthand.

[@MrChristophersilva]

I have to agree, my S23 Ultra has amazing functionality within the DEX environment.. Recently travelling again, and this is a game changer!

[@WMRamadan]

I don't think most manufacturers want the consumer to know this features at all. If users find out they can use their phones as their all in one device and never need to buy laptops, this will dramatically decrease sales for other devices. Companies are not doing anything for the benefit of the consumer they will only find ways to get more money from you. Hence why until now Google Pixel phones do not offer a UBS-C port with video out.

[@farishanafiah8461]

It's ironic to see Google going all the trouble of developing native Desktop Mode since Android 10, and yet Google themselves won't even enable video output for their Pixel phones in the first place. Google don't want to hurt the Chromebook sales from their vendors.

[@razaxp360]

Hallelujah someone finally said it

[@nikytamayo]

I love ETA Prime, too. You guys both provide content that you can't get from your standard gadget channels! Sucks that they futzed the desktop mode on Android 13. I hope they patch it out soon, but unless more people use desktop mode and start complaining, I have little hope of it being worked on in the near term. Thanks for the suggestion of Taskbar... got to check that one out!

[@maximilianb2326]

Tried this for a decade+ , starting with Motorola Atrix in 2012 with a desktop dock and laptop dock and must say that this was the best implementation for me so far but sadly hardware power was lacking back then. Atrix booted a separate linux ROM which you could actually change on your own using full blown linux ROMs and features. Its a shame desktopmode feature has not become standard. The same goes to multiple user feature. I would make both mandatory by law if necessary, similar to USB-C in europe. >> its all about sales I own: (3500$+ sales every 4 years) 2x Phone (work and private) 2x Laptop (work and private) 2x Tablet (me and me+1) could have been 1 midrange phone and some accessories for 500 bucks

[@stereomato]

you're one of the very few that really nerd out about tech

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I think it's more fun that way 😊

[@stereomato]

@@SomeGadgetGuy definitely!, I'm a yuge nerd about tech too, mainly about thin/business laptops and linux

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Old chromebooks and my steam deck are dragging me back to playing with Linux more. I gotta spin that more on this channel 😊

[@stereomato]

@@SomeGadgetGuy I've regained my love and hope for linux because of nixos. it's seriously powerful. could modify the driver package (free, intel) to fix a performance bug for myself easily. not for everyone, but damn amazing to have and yup, linux content would be very nice

[@williamaungleyraud]

I've used Taskbar for years way before android was attempting to have a desktop mode. It's an awesome app. Just now with Samsung I didn't have need for it, but otherwise it's a must have 😎👍

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I even kinda like it as a regular interface for the Razer.

[@williamaungleyraud]

@@SomeGadgetGuy the only thing preventing me from using more desktop mode is that LumaFusion doesn't support the audio codec of my camera's files. (Fujifilm camera) once Davinci Resolve arrive for Android then we'll have such killer progress to desktop mode 👍👍

[@farmerbb]

Appreciate you using it over the years, thanks!

[@LGENDMobile]

What application did you use on the laptop to see the desktop mode?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

That wasn't a laptop. It was a lapdock, basically a fancy portable monitor with a battery.

[@Eleventy8]

Desperate for a mobile device that I can run VS Code on, as well as run a decent terminal. I'd be happy to run a GitHub app to clone repos. I've owned iPad Pros, got an S8 Ultra, and a S23 Ultra. I remember pledging money for a Ubuntu phone many years ago based on the idea I could do everything I needed on my phone. Seems like a huge wasted opportunity, I still can't replace my Mac.

[@farishanafiah8461]

The closest thing you can get to modern Ubuntu Phone is the PinePhone. Being a GNU Linux smartphone, you can easily use it as a legit desktop PC when connecting to a second screen.

[@alokdash35]

Because phones are getting so powerful, i think manufacturers should offer a dock-screen device, to work with their phone with an accompanying desktop mode software.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

You KNOW I agree. An 8Gen2 is nipping at the heels of a current Core i3 in a LOT of tasks, and will be run on a leaner OS. That's the kinda power a Core i5 had a couple years ago, and I know WAY too many people for whom that would still be overkill compute power.

[@tutacat]

As long as your manufacturer ROM doesn't kill resizable windows. Android also focuses your physical keyboard on your phone display when you tap it. Also you can use desktop mode on midrange (no displayport) phones with wireless Screen Mirroring. It looks like you need to change the DPI for desktop mode (because android doesnt do it properly). But actual linux desktops (Xfce) are probably more useful if you could use GPU

[@ljacobs357]

I have a Samsung S20, 13.5 external monitor and foldable keyboard. Use Dex, and for the most part it serves my need for travel or home. And the S20 does scale to the resolution of your monitor but you may have to reboot the phone.

[@bullymaguire6315]

Is there a proper list or source somewhere online that provides information on which Android smartphones support display output via USB-C? Its infuriating to know that both my POCO X3 NFC and my old Pixel 3 doesn't support this feature and I've been trying to find a reliable source for awhile now. Maybe you could expand this idea in another video? :>

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Most of the time GSMArena is accurate, but I've caught a few they missed. Unfortunately, I just have to try it and memorize which phones can. It's a shame more reviewers don't talk about the more advanced stuff. Must be a lot easier to test phones if you're BARELY covering the basics...

[@bullymaguire6315]

@@SomeGadgetGuy Thanks Juan for your most insightful and helpful content. Keep doing God's work 🫡

[@farishanafiah8461]

Nex Computer website list down compatible phones for their NexDock lapdock. That's a good start.

[@TheTheShizzler]

ETA prime for the win! But I'm glad somebody else is acknowledging this! I've messed up my phone's screen software trying to get back a desktop mode that I've been using every day in my OnePlus 8 pro and now I can't use my phone 🤦‍♂️

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Aw that's a bummer. Hard reset time?

[@gmosc]

OnePlus 8t here. Yeah, I screwed up my home screen, too experimenting with video out. All of my home screen icons were wiped out. No it didn't mess up the phone, but just had to repopulate my screen, but that's a bummer when you realize that you had set it up nicely Only to realize that your muscle memory had you reaching for an app at a specific placement on the screen.

[@enihi]

@@gmosc This happened to me too on my Oneplus 8T. First time I enabled desktop mode it deleted all my home screen icons.

[@TheTheShizzler]

@@SomeGadgetGuy going to give it a shot! Currently living off my trusty 6t!

[@gmosc]

Love yer content, megapickles and all.

[@okantarakci3674]

I have the same problem on video at 1:57 with my Oneplus 8 pro but I dont understand whats the solution for this??

[@NeilTaggart]

Good video. Totally agree. Especially adding in headsets/glasses, like xgear.

[@dr_tal]

When I had my windows phone they were doing the desktop mode similar time frame or before Samsung dex. This tech should already be everywhere considering they started working on this years ago

[@tanichiro]

As a commercial photographer/brand manager.. having less devices is something i always want and having the ability to connect my phone to a larger desktop screen so i can do admin/edits etc would be awesome, really wish this gets developed much further instead of being nothing more than a novelty

[@pavelpalazkov1410]

I found useful the desktop mode for streaming games from PC in another room to Oneplus connected to portable monitor with touch screen. Desktop mode helps you to get full screen on portable display while Moonlight app helps you to wake up the PC and start a game using NVidia streaming and Xbox controller. QHD at 60 fps is just fine.

[@futureitshere]

i watched ETA's video just today! I wish a pixel could do this!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Yeah. We all do. Drives me crazy how good the pixel is, and that we can't push it to do more.

[@ZANIT]

O meu celular fica com uma tela completamente preta, há alguma forma de resolver ?

[@igordigaum]

I really like Dex, but I'm having some problems with resolution/aspect ratio on my TV. Curiously not happening on a 1080p monitor. Just the 4k TV.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Samsung is frustrating like that. Jump through hoops with GoodLock, and compatibility can still be shaky. It's why I keep calling Moto ReadyFor the top option in this space right now.

[@ljacobs357]

Reboot the phone usually works for me on my S20.

[@LaczPro]

Like I said on the podcast: The only thing I think it's missing on the absurd gaming phones like the ROG... You guessed it! It's Android Desktop Mode. How you can hold a device with that much RAM, amazing for multitasking, but limit it to the tiny display on your phone?

[@7techno77]

I wish pixels supported display out. I got a nexdock touch and rarely use it except as extra monitor for work laptop

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

KILLING me that Pixels don't support that feature.

[@gmosc]

Me, too. My pixel 7 sends me back to my OnePlus 8t because of stuff like this.

[@modal1312]

Will you make an A14 update on this? Also like a showcase or guide of how word and stuff would play out, for people actually considering to replace their laptops with an external screen?

[@liaminwales]

Phones must be at the point they can replace a laptop, it relay is software that is lacking. No idea why google has not pushed harder to have phones replace computers, it's the place windows cant compete.

[@FAT8893]

Because it will disrupt the Chromebook sales, simple as that. If Google is serious about Desktop Mode in the first place, we should already be using it on Pixel phones.

[@rngtns]

Which app you used in your pc for streaming the video from the phone through type-c to your laptop? The app used in Laptop?

[@stereomato]

i don't know if my phone has video out, nor i have a usbc to hdmi cable, but this is a very cool feature I'd be able to use to display stuff like a game on a big tv + controller

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's the bummer I've been yelling about for years now. People don't know what their phones can really do, but let's make a bunch of videos about app opening "speed tests" and antutu scores...

[@stevepogue1124]

@@SomeGadgetGuy I used to be that guy. While I wasn't interested in phone specs back then, I do wish I learned of the Velvet's desktop mode a lot sooner than I did. Would've been cooler to me than using a $100 school-issued Chromebook, or the one that my Mom got for me on Xmas that I still have around.

[@sslaia]

I know this video is already 10 months old, but the topic is still urgently relevant. As someone who has used Samsung Dex and Motorola Ready For, I can confidently say that they are not convenient at all. The only solution is to create a ChromeOS vm inside the Android VM (Android Virtualization Framework), that has been built in in Android kernel since Android 13. The advantage of using AVF is that basically you can install whatever OS you like in that VM: Linux, Windows, etc

[@papagoygarcia]

How about for us we don't have laptops or computer? Because for me it is not stretching enough, i can't view mostly on right side

[@ExperienceCN]

I believe it’s a really good idea, thanks for the video! Unfortunately not all devices support desktop mode. I’m a fan of realme phones because the software works for me.

[@saif8409]

how are you doing a video in on your laptop ? i dont get it.Hdmi ports on laptop can only do video out ?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's a lapdock. Been reviewing them for years, like this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/jorVhomDqMiWkK8

[@terrymacklin5935]

Been trying for days to get Taskbar App to work with my Sony 5iv (android 13) and Nexdock. Anyone succeed? Is there a precise set of settings that need applying. I just get a small strip and no app drawer.

[@brando764]

Google could add chrome OS to the pixel line up they could even start selling a pixel dock for there phones if they really wanted to could make it an exclusive so the phone only works with the docking laptop they sell or offer the features to 3rd party with a licence fee

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's frustrating. A four year old premium phone is still more powerful than a new cheap chromebook.

[@brando764]

@@SomeGadgetGuy it's frustrating I have no need for a full pc/laptop so got a chromebook for the odd stuff I need a bigger screen and to browse the web but it's such a waste like it's only a few years old and it's getting slow yet I've a brand-new phone that's more than capable they just refuse to unlock it I pray apple decides to do desktop mode at least then android might catch on to it

[@farishanafiah8461]

​@@brando764 And yet when you watch lapdock reviews, most people be like "why don't you buy a normal laptop at that price". 🤦🤦

[@brando764]

@@farishanafiah8461 I usually agree with them comments of just buy a laptop but that's cause the software on the phones just isn't good enough yet and the actual laptop for the same price is usually a better choice unfortunately

[@reverof]

A dream of mine is to utilize something like dex with a bluetooth foldable keyboard and trackpad as a tiny desktop.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Even better when you add a portable wearable display. Desktop modes ROCK.

[@JeskidoYT]

i won't be surprised if on Android 13.3 or 14, google just revamps this mode for their new tablet supposedly

[@Geekfest84]

So this desktop mode app works OK on the xperia 1 iv? And it can display one app on the tv/monitor and another on the device for example? All I want to do is cloud game on the big screen and I've always steered towards samsung and motorola for my phones due to dex and ready for. If this app can give the xperia's even just basic desktop and full screen functionality then that's all I need and I can break free! As the new xperia 1 v looks like a brilliant device (lack of desktop mode aside).

[@joemanco69]

can you di desktop mode without using secondary monitor? maybe the tablet could replace laptop

[@TwoRMSquared]

I really wish Razer's Project Linda became a thing. I would have been a Razer phone buyer for life.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I liked the idea, but it would have suffered the same issues as MotoMods. It would have been a SUPREMELY expensive accessory to only work with two or three generations of phones, then become total ewaste. It would have been difficult to incorporate the phone into a shell and maintain performance without more work on things like active cooling. People complain about the phone being tethered on a cable with the NexDock, but it makes it a lot easier to use that with ANY supported phone/computer/console, and it lasts a LOT longer not using proprietary interfaces.

[@TwoRMSquared]

@@SomeGadgetGuyThat's true. But it would at least solve the trackpad issue a lot of these lapdocks have. Using the phone as a trackpad is better experience in my opinion than the built in trackpads. Pros and cons I guess.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I mean, it MIGHT have been? We don't know. It would have been a big glass surface, but then it also would have to be DEDICATED to just being a trackpad. The current "tethered" solution means my phone can be a phone still. I can bring up my phone screen in ReadyFor, but it's often just faster to do a phone thing ON the phone. Linda really felt like a thing that we can build to AFTER we spend some more time getting the basics right, but as it stands now, we're taking huge steps AWAY from polishing up the basics.

[@myusrngml]

Do you think this android 13 out of the box developer tools desktop mode coupled with taskbar app would let you use the new oneplus pro tablet running android 13 and oxygen UI over a single cable mode usb-c desktop + usb + pd [ power delivery ] connection?

[@farishanafiah8461]

OnePlus Pad don't support video output in the first place, so I don't think it's possible to do so.

[@LipraAiX]

My Oneplus 9 desktop mode also got broken, and I tried to fix it with Taskbar but couldn't fullscreen any app. In the end, I used Computer Launcher 3 without desktop mode active. Still waiting a review for Android 14/OxygenOS 14 desktop mode, hope it's getting better.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

The Android 14 beta seems even worse right now 😐

[@fitrockx]

You said it all! Does the OnePlus is running Oxigen OS 13 or Color OS? Because I was able to use desktop mode on my 8T with Oxigen OS 11, but not with 12 nor 13. I ended downgrading back to 11 because of that.

[@jamesscout9290]

Heres a thing i discovered while android 13 and 12 both broke hdmi out on oneplus 8t if use a thing called scrcpy and go in dev options and enable "simulate secound display" then use scrcpy to connect to that via the command scrcpy --display (whatever the display is in the terminal) it works! Its not hdmi out but its close! So clearly it still works behind the scenes but it is clear to me that hdmi out is broke on 12 and 13 for oneplus 8t........ Im pretty sure a custom rom for these versions of android might fix this..... But for now i use scrcpy to use my desktop mode but you gotta use another pc to do so

[@nishikun867]

​@@jamesscout9290if you are going to use scrcpy, trust me even your lowest budget phone from 2019 will do video output with almost zero latency (i know because I'd tried it), the only problem I faced was that there was no audio coming out through the cable....

[@enihi]

JuanBagnell has been making videos about desktop mode for YEARS and we have had almost no progress and even some regressions in stock android. Very disappointed in google.

[@lunavids1506]

This dont works on Nubia z50 o tried all

[@TheSolidfoxhound]

Shout out to ETA PRIME !

[@Abhi_Gamerz69]

bro taskbar app is not working in poco x6 pro it's broken can you fix that

[@SacKingJOSER916]

I'm looking to upgrade from my OnePlus 9, thank you for letting me know to avoid OnePlus 11 and pixel I really want a pixel but I need desktop mode.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Kills me. A pixel that outputs the proper Android 13 tablet view would be awesome.

[@JC-ft4ri]

Im a person that does all the modes, except tablets. But love using my smartphone's desktop mode for quick work instead of pulling out laptop for simple task. I use LGv60 with Screen+

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's so darn handy. It's crazy to think that the V60 was four years ago, and there's still no one feature complete replacement for it.

[@JC-ft4ri]

@@SomeGadgetGuy And probably never will be will another like it. Will have to settle for a Galaxy Fold in the future...

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

If I duct tape a moto, and a Sony, and an Open together... I kinda ALMOST have an LG...

[@JC-ft4ri]

@@SomeGadgetGuy hmmm.... maybe a hardware hack project....

[@ergindemir7366]

That theoretical compute power is attached to your phone temporarily, because of lacking cooling system.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Which could be improved with a thermoelectric docking station. But when you look at end results, ARM chips with optimized software mop the floor with the majority of X86 laptop solutions. I don't much care about thermals when a one year old SOC can outpace a core i5 THIS much in video rendering kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZK3dGSvj5aCgc0

[@mykr0324]

I have a pixel 6 pro that I really like. Was massively disappointed when I found that it didnt have usb to hdmi when I got it. Due to upgrade my phone now and wanted to move to the pixel 8 pro, couldnt believe that their latest flagship still doesnt allow this feature even though its apparently not due to hardware limitations. Its kinda ridiculous at this point. All I want it for really is emulation, so I can just dock and play on my TV with a wireless controller without lag. Probably would replace my need for my raspberry pi 3b and 4 at that point for retro emulation.

[@tomw4984]

What is that sweet monitor shown at :22 ?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Aw that's a little NexPad. It's an odd duck, but I kinda love it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXa7aotoia2CptE

[@diogocaetano6309]

I find myself looking at this and thinking, what will be a GOOD replacement for laptop? When will we be able to start to replace them? Because I find that having to carry a portable monitor or even that "laptop" thing that you have not worth vs buying an average laptop. I think that might start to change when better AR glasses come in to market in the next few years.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I mean, if it's just about floating a window in space in front of you, the XREAL and Rokid glasses have been baller.

[@diogocaetano6309]

@@SomeGadgetGuy That is why I said we need a bit more time until we get there. I think both XReal and Rokid are almost there, just needs to be at least 3dof (6dof would be perfect) and a little bit more slim, compact, not obstruct your vision and better software. I honestly thought that Apple was going to present AR Glasses this year, but instead announced that "thing".

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I've been having tech "enthusiasts" tell me that "Apple is right around the corner and they'll do it RIGHT!" And well... This stuff isn't NEARLY as easy as those folks thought it would be... 😅

[@TAlim_1994]

I found this video while attempting to find a solution to a problem with the Taskbar application (the same one mentioned in the video) introduced after I updated to Android 13. Since the update, windows in Desktop Mode run in a very buggy manner, being unable to be properly resized or moved, and sometimes not properly filling the screen when maximised. Additionally, the taskbar no longer sits at the bottom of the screen, and now has moved several pixels higher than where it was on Android 12, covering some icons on my desktop. Has anyone else experienced these or similar issues with Taskbar on Android 13? And does anyone know any solutions for them? In case it helps, I am using an Asus ROG Phone 5s Pro.

[@tutacat]

On android with Shizuku (ADB) based resolution app or Root, you can easily set the android display resolution, to the correct aspect ratio If you arent using desktop mode

[@marcussarkis]

all said! great review

[@michaelmurray2833]

blows my mind that Samsung Dex was launched in 2017 and options are essentially WORSE 7 years later. I made the mistake of getting a Pixel 7 Pro that I'm finding out "Can't" or "Won't" even do video out via its usbc port. If you were recommending a new or used best option to buy today as a portable phone form factor PC, which one it is? cause I'll buy a secondary device and leave usb hubs and peripherals at my usual stop ins.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

The best desktop mode available now is Moto ready for. Dex is a close second, and honor is a close third. It's really frustrating more companies haven't played with alternate video output.

[@michaelmurray2833]

@@SomeGadgetGuy thanks for the quick summary I watched the whole video but it was a lot to take in an really understand a clear winner. I do well with like a ranking table at the end. :p I'll rewatch the moto section.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Well... This isn't a comparison as such...

[@sandipmakhal1317]

Does anyone know of a working headphone jack adapter for Motorola edge 30 pro?

[@JoeD250]

I'm gonna replace My Moto G6 with this year with the upcoming Edge+ 2023. So I can start using the Ready For. So far I'm just a believer and hope it can replace My laptop.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I haven't traveled with a laptop for a couple years now.

[@inspira.]

What do you use the ready for mode on then?​@@SomeGadgetGuy

[@michaelmurray2833]

ok. this is crazy that in 2023 a phone can't talk to usb devices like monitors and peripherals. even casting to a monitor. Its like they don't want to destroy tablet and chromebook sales so they are holding back phones as computers. its insane. I had a laptop that can run a usbC hub that runs 3 monitors, a TV and speakers, usb flash drives and keyboard and mouse and lan cable... why can't that exist in a phone formfactor that is pocketable. its just piping data in and out of a usbc port.

[@velvetpilot2008]

I have a Sony Xperia 1, Mk III and on Android 13 it's broken as well. Why Sony doesn't just do what Samsung and Motorola have done is mind boggling considering you can remote play PS4/PS5 on an Xperia and nobody wants to do that on a 6.7in screen. I want to have a pocket PS5 I can plug into any TV or monitor.

[@tombouie]

Thks again & I still waiting for android desktop mode damn-it

[@farishanafiah8461]

At the moment, best go for custom-made solutions like Samsung DeX, Huawei EMUI Desktop, Honor Magic Desktop, and Motorola Ready For.

[@neomamuro]

Once again, it's time for me to shout into the void hoping the manufacturing gods hear me: "It's time to once again try the Asus Padfone line!" Phone, tablet, laptop, all in one luggable package. Why should I buy 3 CPUs when all I need is one which I can just extend with a bigger screen and/or a keyboard when needed? (And with this, I point out why this hasn't happened yet. 😂 But I can also dream that a portable monitor manufacturer like Uperfect has a product like this in development).

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I know right! I miss the transformer and padfones so much...

[@farishanafiah8461]

They won't do that because it will disrupt their Android tablet and Chromebook laptop sales, thus preventing them from getting more profit. You can't help but think that both Android and Chrome OS can be converged together as a mobile desktop OS.

[@osheadavis]

I don't often use desktop mod, but when I do need it. Thus, I will not buy a phone with a decent desktop mode. I hope Android fixes this.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Dex is a HUGE feature. It could be a mainstream replacement for a chromebook, or that great safety feature you use only when you need it.

[@gmosc]

My oneplus 3t did some interesting stuff with using an external monitor's proportions better. The battery died so I can't experiment on it anymore. My oneplus 6's screen shattered and I was hoping to use it as a computer using an external screen. I am gonna try it again since my OnePlus 8t deletes all of the home screen icons when I try external monitors. Being a musician I've experimented with external DACs to try to stream from my phones. Getting power to the phones while doing the DAC thing has been tricky if not impossible. Having to toggle the OTG mode to get stuff to work is tiring, but when I got my pixel 7 and found that none of any of that seems to work, I've gotten even more frustrated with not being able to use it with its better camera. (I bought the pixel just before a trip to Edinburg cuz of its camera.) But I found myself reaching back for my oneplus 8T more and more even though I have the pixel and one reason is the extreme fast charging that can top me off on the OnePlus while I've gone back to overnight charging on the pixel. No quick top offs for that one. Actually I use the OnePlus while I slowly top off my Pixel. Am typing on the OnePlus right now. Oh, also sandstone case textures still have me hooked. My slick pixel cases are a bummer. But OnePlus leaving Europe (after also leaving its fanboys) also steered me towards getting the Pixel)

[@gmosc]

Oh, I also still have my OnePlus one. Shame it didn't charge quicker.

[@joyphobic]

I never really use DeX on my phone but I do appreciate it not making any sounds whatsoever when I just regularly watch KZbin connected to my monitor. I do have a gaming pc that sounds like a jet turbine taking off when I open up Chrome lol. Honestly, given where the trend is heading right now, Windows Continuity seems like such a miss opportunity by Microsoft to corner the "my phone is the only computer I ever need" market. Oh, what could have been...

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Agreed. The idea doesn't take off in more "developed" countries because they need to sell MULTIPLE computers to people. It's just a DAMN shame that Dex doesn't show up on a nicer Galaxy A series phone for people who can't afford multiple computers.

[@willi1978]

i look forward to when convergence is here. postmarket os looks very promising, but i think cameras and the processing software will take a long time to catch up to android

[@michaelbmw1931]

Which desctop mode is the best ? Dex .?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I personally like ReadyFor the best. Dex is great, but needs tinkering in good lock that makes stuff more difficult than it needs to be.

[@tutacat]

Firefox actually breaks it's resizeable windows (on any display mode, even if you try it on normal phone mode)

[@RoyVercetti]

9:58 which game is this?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Dust and Neon, it's on Netflix 👍

[@burhanbudak6041]

I knew LOS had a Desktop mode for my Oneplus 7T but wow, I can connect my Razor mouse, Keychron K8 and my Bullets Wireless 2 with bluetooth at the same time as the phone is connected to my LG monitor with USB/C alt mode while charging. COMBO BREAKER!

[@roblucci253]

When is Android 14 desktop mode test and review?😊

[@LarryAsberryJr]

Fantastic video Juan. I always learn so much when watching your videos.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

😊👍

[@Valdismith]

The Motorola Ready For has been marvelous when I purchased in 2022 the edge 30 Pro I saw the option in GSMarena, I remained without a laptop and when I move to bed from my Desktop, I just drop a monitor and the "Desktop OS' is so nice simple, like a using a visualized Linux on a Desktop, that I can do everything, watch all my movies, just a cable and you bring a computer ready to work on any screen. I am looking at honor Magic 6 Pro, so can you please tell me, if it has Desktop mode similar to Motorola. I love it, I heard it was like Samsung Dex, haven't tried Samsung's, if I will pay 30-50% more compared to 2y ago and not have Desktop Mode. Please let me know if Honor Magic 6 Pro has Desktop mode like I think I saw here it has it, and is it a good device, like many reviewers say it is? It's stupid I can't get it with 16RAM, I just saw a 200 Moto g device with cheap SoC and 12GB of RAM, like WTF, probably not the fastest, but still 12GB on a bottom end device. THANK YOU!

[@nishikun867]

So someone finally addressed my concern about the desktop mode in a mid range smartphone.... I mean if they can afford a 1200$+ phone, they might already have 2-3 computers that cost nearly 3k $.... So phone companies really need to introduce proper desktop mode to upper budget smartphone and mid range smartphone section

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I tried to tell more folks about phones like the Velvet, but the rest of the reviewers acted like LG had failed again. Tech "enthusiasts" didn't want to support good practical workhorse phones. 🤷

[@kaasis85]

Don't see google and manufacturers seriously evolving this feature into anything usable for the simple reason that there's just not enough people who would use it. If you own a monitor in 99% of cases it's attached to a computer with a proper desktops OS already.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I think youre underestimating the number of people who resemble that comment, but the home PC is aged box that rarely gets used. My Wife's sister's family was like that. They turn to phones first, game on a PS4, and their son was issued a CHEAP laptop for school. They had a monitor and a Windows 7 PC gathering dust. When they saved up to buy my Nephew a Galaxy S10, that phone was legitimately the most powerful multi-purpose PC in their home.

[@Morfy-je4dz]

The Skeptical side of me thinks : Lazy Devs not seeing this tech as popular enough to give any more time to, or the Laptop and chromebook manufacturers said - Stop!!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I think if the company makes a laptop or Chromebook, it's likely the second option you wrote. I can't figure out the phone brands that DONT make a laptop tho. Why not disrupt that space?

[@boyo1991]

currently on samsung dex. Its weird, my "phone" seems to really be my most personal computer, between my gaming notebook and chromebook, and... I think should be treated as such... oh well..

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Been trying to tell people for years now, their phone likely packs more compute power than most people really need for daily compute tasks. Moto ready for, honor magic and Huawei desktop, and dex are MASSIVE features that reviewers consistently overlook.

[@daysgone3950]

With edge S pro and Aidlux, you can literally do programming. Not bad at all.

[@nicoful86]

What's actually crazy is that galaxy flip5 gained dp Alt-mode!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

SO happy to see that. ALL premium phones should have video out. Even cheaper mid-rangers.

[@SpardasTechReviews]

It seems like every other update the desktop mode breaks. Lol

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Sure would be nice if it would occasionally get fixed in an update...

[@user-iy6ko1bz4y]

This is why I can only reccomend Samsung or Motorola. Desktop mode is a killer feature.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Honor is worthy of that recommendation too. Also, the Lenovo tablet has a passable desktop mode too.

[@FAT8893]

Honor's Magic Desktop is not much different than Huawei's EMUI Desktop.

[@user-iy6ko1bz4y]

We sadly don't have the Honor or Huawei brand sold in my country. They too have killer value.

[@Unan1mouz]

@@SomeGadgetGuy Which Lenovo tablet?

[@ellhnn]

No my friend. Harmony os desktop mode is very good. I am writing to you now from my P40 pro (with desktop mode 😁).

[@ManuCarrileroAFYD]

Cuál es el laptop?

[@Anita95_original]

I started with punch cards on mini-computers 1980... I have programmed a lot. I utterly despise Windows 10, I just cannot stand Micro$ofts misuse of "it isn't your computer anymore" as a step towards "You will own nothing and be happy", just pay a monthly fee to boot your windows computer... An Android phone and external screen (even a glasses such as Rokid Air Max), keyboard and mouse... If the desktop mode works okey I can write books, watch movies, pay bills, keep track of emails etc etc. I have done so for some years now (Samsung and Huwai). It works, and I have it with me. I jack in at work, I go home and jack it in. Seamlessly convinient.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's potentially the most disruptive tech we own, and we see so little traction on getting people to even try it.

[@6Mar99]

I just wish that the Galaxy S24 FE had video output support

[@DoodleDan]

This is so freaking cool

[@PakoSt]

I will be holding my coins for now. Maybe I will get a PinePhone Pro to compare to the OG PinePhone until we get something more balanced from the Linux smartphones. I want my computer with a modem to act like what it is 😄 I've put my money where my mouth is with LG before. I will do the same now 🙂

[@Nokia_editz]

Ugh i changed to disable desktop mode due to retro arch not displaying correctly and when i enabled again it was broken 🙃 fml