Android phone as HDMI monitor, recorder and streamer! ACCSOON M1 review

[@cameralabs]

How to use your Android phone as an HDMI monitor, recorder and streamer! Accsoon M1 at B&H: bhpho.to/38lNhV7 / Amazon UK: amzn.to/3NOVdP6 Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ Cameralabs merchandise: redbubble.com/people/cameralabs/shop Gordon’s retro gear channel: kzbin.info Check eBay to find vintage gear: rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=1&pub=5574908462&toolid=10001&campid=5338329149&customid=&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg Lost photos? I recover mine with: www.dpbolvw.net/click-100568658-13808570?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.stellarinfo.com%2Fphoto-recovery-software.php Equipment used for producing my videos Sony A6400: amzn.to/3hul53c Sony e 24mm f1.8: amzn.to/2TqWNzk Rode NT USB mic: amzn.to/3AdHcUp Rode Wireless Go II mic: amzn.to/3xkCvGo Rode Lavalier Go mic: amzn.to/3ygzzKY Godox UL150 light: amzn.to/2VpVbXE Godox QR-P70 softbox: amzn.to/3yQfGdF MacBook Pro 14in (16GB / 1TB): bhpho.to/3HiafJL Music: www.davidcuttermusic.com / @dcuttermusic As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases

[@wheelhousewatch]

One of the best videos on KZbin. Much of the new stuff is confusing but Gordon is always focused on you getting to the next level. Bravo 👏

[@scottsfowler]

You can diy this, albeit not as nicely packaged without some technical knowhow. You can save half the money (or free if you already have the components (which many of you do). If you are using android os by buying a $8 hdmi capture dongle, requisite cables, phone mounting hardware, and download the accsoon app. The app still works with all features!! You can add a battery plate and USB splitter to add in phone/camera charging. I had all the components already at home so free for me! It does have more cables tho...lol 😂😂. I may need to 3d print myself a housing and it hack together

[@rustymixer2886]

Hdmi input dongle for andriod?

[@Tom_Roberts]

Thanks for the review - was thinking of buying it . It helped !

[@MLee-vcrr]

As always Gordon, another great review. This is a excellent product. I just hope they design a more durable light weight metal version with a internal battery and less latency. Then I'm buying two!

[@cameralabs]

That would be nice, but how much would you pay for it?

[@graealex]

A no-brainer for streaming, where you'd need a mobile internet connection anyway, but with prices for dedicated field monitor/recorders having dropped as low as they are now, maybe not ideal solution.

[@MrKinamyun]

Great review!!!

[@LouisLuzuka]

Ooo I love this energy

[@andrew6634]

Hi Gordon, hi have a samsung S20+ and I can't seem to use my phone as a monitor. A pop-up on my phone always says " OTG Switch" I need to turn it on, any idea on that? Thanks

[@cameralabs]

I think you may need to adjust a setting for your USB port on the phone.

[@PedroGarcia-jt7fd]

Hello! I have the same problem. I have seen different videos on KZbin about how turn on OTG connection but it doesn't work. Also i have tried with different mobiles but is the same situation. Says in everyone "OTG Swith". Hope someone can help us to find the solution.

[@PedroGarcia-jt7fd]

I have Samsung galaxy S10+ and Canon 6d

[@MegahPro_concepts]

This is way good. Thanks. What are specifications for the android phones for this gadget?

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

Somebody put a bit of thought into that little device. That's for sure.

[@marcomarcon5802]

Brilliant little device

[@morecarstuff]

overlay image alone makes me want to get this. will get a dedicated phone for it though, just to have my phone handy and available. without the need to mount and keep unmounting etc.

[@ScottJWaldron]

That does look very interesting! Great video as usual. (funny enough the Ninja V won't flip the image for making self shooting easier, though I like mine a lot for its efficient add-on h.265 codec).

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! ooh, I'd not seen the H.265 option for it - do you need to pay for it?

[@ScottJWaldron]

@@cameralabs Yeah, it's $99 with the original Ninja V. Pretty sure it's included with the Ninja V+.

[@cameralabs]

@@ScottJWaldron I see that now. The thing is, for $99 you could buy this adapter and have a lighter option for simple gigs. I think i'd sooner do that.

[@ScottJWaldron]

@@cameralabs Yeah, I agree with you there! My mention of it wasn't related to your video. I more so talked about the NInja V because Atomos is stubborn in not adding a mirror screen option which they have on their other monitors.

[@SinaFarhat]

Cool device! :) Have a good week!

[@maartenjanssen]

Thanks for the video! Just checking, can it also be used for just monitoring while recording to the in camera SD's? I'm very intrigued by this solution.

[@cameralabs]

Yes

[@photobyTaps]

Great video! Does it defeat HDCP copy protection?

[@cameralabs]

Good question, I wondered that too. It certainly wouldn't display the signal from my Blu Ray player if that's what you're asking.

[@photobyTaps]

Looking for a way to bypass HDCP got me stuck in a rabbit hole 😂

[@AroundMangaloreChannel]

Hi. what is the software that you have installed in your Android Phone? and how you got the same?

[@cameralabs]

it's the Accssoon app

[@KingdomThoughtLeaders]

This looks awesome! I've been looking for a way to use my LG v60 with it's great screen for monitoring from my Fuji XT4. The fact that unit records 1080p and livestreams is a bonus especially at this price. I'd just record internally for the most part for the 4K, etc. I was planning at some point to maybe get the BMD Video Assist 5" 12G HDR. Thanks for sharing this.

[@cowboy6591]

Focus assist and Exposure Zebras, Nice touch.

[@dimloud]

amazing video. thank you a lot. i have a question about that , you suggest this (accsoon m1) or a connectivity with someone cheap capture card?

[@AjaySingh-228]

Good One Sir..I like it🙂✌️

[@AdamJRichardson]

Interesting device, thanks for doing a video about it! I could definitely see myself picking one of these up. Just to clarify, am I right in thinking that the full rez (4k etc) files still get written to the camera's SD card, and that the lower limits only apply to what's recorded to the phone or for livestreaming? Also, do you know if the mic level monitoring also works when using an external mic, or does it just register the camera's mics? (Or maybe it's measuring what's going thru the camera's pre-amp, regardless of external vs internal mics?) Thanks!

[@cameralabs]

The recording depends on your camera. Most allow you to record to BOTH their internal SD card while still outputting over HDMI to an external recorder, which is what I did here. Although when the Fujifilm HDMi was set to 4k, the Accsoon wouldn't display the signal. So that's why I set the HDMI to output 1080 in that case. Didn't need to do it on my Sony cameras though, it just worked. And in both cases the cameras could still record 4k internally at the same time. And the audio levels just monitor whatever's going into the camera, whether built-in or external.

[@SethKastner]

According to Accsoon, this capture device maxes out at 1080p/60fps. You can theoretically get 4k into your Android using an AverMedia Streamer Cap 4k (or possibly an Elgato Camlink 4k). But you'd have to make sure that you phone has USB 3.0 as both of those require it. I livestream with one of the cheap "USB 2.0 HDMI grabber" devices, which is certain cheap (like $12 for the adapter AND a USB-C hub for passthrough charging via a battery bank) but cable clutter avoidance with this rig is really appealing.

[@dfgrama]

Hi Gordon ! Are you 100% sure that this Accsoon M1 records in H264 codec like you stated at 7:30 min.? because on another revirew (kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGO2qaqKeK6qeq8) in the comments, someone from Accsoon stated that "The M1 uses the MJPEG codec, which is less efficient than the H264 codec used in SeeMo. 20 Mbps in M1 is equivalent to 2-5 Mbps in SeeMo". This info about the codec is missing on Accsoon1s website and online user manual. Thank you very much and all the best in the new year!

[@cameralabs]

Hmmm, it's been a long time since I used it, so you've got me wondering. I'll ask my contact there. MJPEG would be a very strange choice in this day and age and seems extremely unlikely to me.

[@dfgrama]

@@cameralabs I know, that`s why it seemed very strange to me too when I read that comment from an official Accsoon representative. Please let us know what info you get from them. It would be a pity to have such a useful tool crippled by MJPEG codec. Cheers!

[@elmundodepedro]

Hello good day. I have a problem and I can't figure out why. When I connect the device to the phone, everything works correctly, but when the camera screen is turned off, the hdmi signal stops emitting, that is, it is cut off. How can I do so that even if the camera screen is turned off, it continues to emit a signal? My camera on a Nikon Z7. Thanks in advance.

[@messylaura]

Gordon, i was asked by someone if the new ios version can also be used for stills photography as well as video?

[@cameralabs]

I have no idea, sorry!

[@AndrewLXiong]

Great review and I really like the light portability recording option compare to say a Ninja V...quick question, in one segment of the video you show side by side comparison of two videos--does that mean you can simultaneously record to your phone and internal memory card of the larger camera? Please clarify and thanks in advance!

[@cameralabs]

I think so, but tbh, I've reviewed so many things since this one, i can't quite remember.

[@kai_jokela]

Does anyone know, does it record and stream stereo audio?

[@RC534]

Now if this would have good quality 4K output I would instantly buy it as a match for my S21 Ultra. Also at lets say double the price...ok do throw in a sturdier construction and quick charging of the phone then. But I suspect that the device is mainly limited by many phones. Although those have a USB-c port they are still USB 2.0 devices at the interface. So I'll wait for Accsoon to maybe release an upgraded version in the future 😀

[@cameralabs]

Exactly, but if you spec it up too much, then you end up overlapping with dedicated monitors or recorders.

[@RC534]

@@cameralabs indeed... Although Accsoon's main product line is off-course wireless transmitters not monitors/recorders so that need't bite that too much. Still, the list this as an 'accessoire' on their site that says a lot 😄

[@cb2000a]

Would be nice to have 10 bit video.

[@TwoTimesRmedia]

Pretty cool and useful device

[@sunnynaguri]

Would the Accsoon SEE app still work if I use a hdmi capture card?

[@cameralabs]

Not sure

[@sundersquare]

Were you able to stream using data on the phone? I saw some person wasn't able to. Thanks

[@cameralabs]

I didn't try this, but my mobile data did appear to be working fine.

[@SlipstreamCreativeAgency]

Hey Gordon, love your videos. I've bought the M1 and trying to connect my Sony A7RV to Samsung S23 ultra. It seems there's a connection because I lose the camera screen but I\m not getting a camera view on the mobile monitor. Do I have the camera on PC connect? Is there any settings in the phone I need to change? Appreciate any help.

[@cineffect]

Should be perfect for "box-type" cameras like BGH1 or BMMCC.

[@MisterDivineAdVenture]

Looks like a pretty good option. But I was unclear what was coming from the camera and what was built-in, like the audio monitor, and the VFx. Also would be nice to have a stereo mic in for audio if that's possible bc of the USB-C being needed for both.

[@godsakes]

This actually looks really useful, needs to have a version that's large enough for tablets . Does the app record in MP4? (I've noticed the free apps for these usb video devices seem to use strange codecs like MJPEG)

[@StringrPress]

What I need to know if the lut is baked into the footage

[@brokenintel]

My concern is that clamp will fail very quickly as you mentioned.

[@ClaireMcHardy]

The evolution of this would be a device that was either wireless to the camera at the same time or connected via USB C to the camera instead of HDMI. Then the phone has Monitoring and Camera control all on the one app.

[@johnson42069]

PSA! I tested the Accsoon app with my $15 capture card and an otg adapter and it works really well. AFAIK this is the only usb video app with focus peaking and other camera related features, so this is really cool for the frugal videographer as it's a free app with no ads.

[@cameralabs]

Nice hack!

[@justaprankbro]

Nice! Could you link or name the capture card and adapter you use? I’m interested in trying this method but would be nice to not have to risk buying something incompatible 😄

[@johnson42069]

@@justaprankbro it's one of the capture cards that are on AliExpress and Amazon for ~$10-20. they capture 1080p30 and all have the same black dongle sort of design, with a male usb A connector on one end and a female HDMI port on the other end. It acts as a generic UVC video device (webcam basically) so it is recognized on pretty much any operating system, including Android. Any old Type-C OTG cable should work, but i got one from monoprice that was flexible. As for the ACCCSOON SEE app, it seems to me like it just picks up whatever video feed comes over usb regardless of the vendor, or the cheap capture card is using the same chip.

[@tomwilson6307]

Hi, I liked your review. I am trying to find out if I can use this as a monitor for still photography and will the app control any of the functions for still photographs. Cant seem to find any information directed at stills. I looked at the app but without the device connected, it doesnt show me a lot. Also checked their website and did not find out any more. Sorry if this seems like a no brainer question, but dont want to spend money on a solution that wont work for me. I have old tired eyes and just need a better screen than my camera's built in screen. Thank you for your time.

[@cameralabs]

Good question. The device can't control the camera, so you still have to press the camera's buttons but it will replicate whatever is on your camera's screen on your phone, so yes, it will become bigger and also adjustable in position.

[@tomwilson6307]

Thank you for your reply

[@andrew_veale]

Just to clarify, you can use this as a monitor alone and still have 4k and 10bit internal?

[@4auswanderer]

Thank you so much for this video. I guess it is exactly what I need. Just wondering if this will work with the Canon EOS R7 and the Huawei Android P30 Pro phone? Thank you very much for your help.

[@cameralabs]

It should do, but I haven't tried the combination so can't say for sure.

[@Tarkov.]

The price is really good considering those cheaper capture cards on amazon tend to be really hit-or-miss. I've heard of them going kaput after a couple days. If you were buying a reliable cap card to compare with this, you're looking at $60-100 easily.

[@cameralabs]

Exactly. I think it's worth it for the lack of hassle.

[@AdekunleJohnsonEseyin]

Good video, is facebook livestreaming possible

[@markshirley01]

Can you control audio levels on this device - or is it just to view the levels

[@cameralabs]

Just to view.

[@Super01041994]

As a Sony shooter this looks interesting. I do have one question though, will the screen or evf of the camera turn off when recording with this device? Mainly interested in showing camera settings.

[@cameralabs]

That depends on the actual camera and how it handles its HDMI output. Some leave the screen on, some don't. Most do though.

[@fktygglbtchbtch1384]

been doing this since the G9 :)

[@imagenatura]

I did notice the moiré on your hat on the 1080p recording, but it still seems like an interesting device.

[@cameralabs]

Yes, that's most likely the fact 1080 has less resolution rather than a fault of the M1 per-se

[@imagenatura]

@@cameralabs So if you output a 1080p signal, the moiré will disappear?

[@cameralabs]

@@imagenatura good question, but there could be multiple outcomes. In my scenario, the X100V was downsampling from 4k to 1080 before outputting it, so any moire was in the original signal. Maybe actually setting the original camera to 1080 would produce a better result, maybe not. It really depends on each camera and how they generate 1080. I wanted to try recording 4k on the original and a 1080 version for my comparison. I've seen moire on my hat pattern before, it may just be triggering any 1080 system.

[@yawningmarmot]

Hi Gordon! How do you find the lag? Is it bad? I'm thinking of getting either this to go with my Samsung S10 or buying a dedicated monitor like Portkeys PT5 II to help me focus manually while filming on my new Panasonic S5 :)

[@cameralabs]

I show the lag in the video, it's not bad although not as good as a ninja

[@Arnie_Liv]

Anyone know where to get one ? Seems to be no stock anywhere

[@Arkitekrion707]

Good day! Is this compatible on canon 80d? Thanks in advance

[@cameralabs]

If the 80D has HDMI output, then yes

[@kapivyas]

live not work on youtube. , they are working on still

[@ardiyanto.t]

Looks interesting.. the battery output jack could powered bmpcc 4k/6k camera 👍

[@sundersquare]

How is outdoor visibility on the Samsung s20? I have one too and am looking at the monitor but only if viewing outdoors is okay. Thanks

[@cameralabs]

If you already have an S20, what do you think of the outdoor visibility? Like all phones, it's nowhere near an external monitor, like a Ninja V, but ok with the brightness turned up.

[@sundersquare]

@@cameralabs yeah it's okay for the little I'd use it but for monitoring, especially if the app itself is quite dark, it might be hard to see. I was comparing nit value and apparently it's higher than the ninja v too. I could try make a sun hood or something too I suppose

[@cameralabs]

@@sundersquare I have the Ninja V and can tell you it looks much brighter! I think the Accsoon is basically a low cost option for you to use your phone, but if you're doing this a lot and mostly outdoors, I'd consider getting a proper recorder.

[@sundersquare]

@@cameralabs Good to know! thanks!

[@alfaromeo_photograp]

Only mirrorless, DSLR can use it?

[@nicholastamas1204]

any idea if the newer one works with android devices?

[@nicholastamas1204]

i ask because nobody sells this anymore which is a real shame

[@cameralabs]

I'm not sure, sorry, you'd need to check the ACCSOON website. I do keep hearing them mostly talking about iPhone these days though, which would be a shame.

[@SmartVideoBE]

What is the recorded fps on the phone?

[@cameralabs]

It should be the same as what's output by the HDMI. I output 25p and it recorded 25p, so I know that works.

[@Ragun5]

do you know by any chance if it would work with a 5d mkII and a mobile?

[@cameralabs]

It should convert the HDMI signal from any camera. Not sure if the feed from the 5D2 is clean out of HDMI though or if it has graphics on it. It'll basically capture whatever comes out of the HDMI, so you could check by connecting it to a TV/

[@Ragun5]

@@cameralabs THX :)

[@raczyk]

ACCSOON M1 work will all camerals or only fuji film?

[@cameralabs]

It should work with any camera with an HDMI port.

[@kazimierzskalniak1457]

Whats is the name of app

[@amanaskarizad]

hey Gordon, can this bypass the 30 minutes limit record?

[@cameralabs]

If your phone is happy to record for that long

[@ThePandaPhotographer]

Note, does not work with all the cameras and older camera either which I just tested

[@scuba99099]

support sony a7iii?

[@cameralabs]

Probably

[@theDanDeleon]

NEED this for iPhone.

[@cameralabs]

I've noticed none of the cheap adapters allow this on iOS either, so I suspect it's an issue at a low level.

[@PearTreePictures1950]

Yes it does work iOS it’s just that you get a lighting cable .it’s called the so so from same company .

[@cameralabs]

Yes they do it now but not when I made this video

[@gregoryrogalsky6937]

minimal lag ?

[@cameralabs]

Are you asking what lag is or are you saying it's not minimal?

[@gregoryrogalsky6937]

@@cameralabs Sorry I should have been more clear.. I was in a rush this morning. From what I saw the lag looked quite significant . And seeing how the project I am working on Ill be using my Canon 50 0.95 at F0.95 focusing pulling on subjects that move that is would seem to be an issue. Thanks for making this video.

[@cameralabs]

@@gregoryrogalsky6937 the lag to me looked similar to the Ninja V, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Ninja is a bit more responsive. The M1 is more of a fun gadget, not a pro tool.

[@gregoryrogalsky6937]

@@cameralabs That is what I am afraid of.. How am I supposed to pull focus with that lag...? Is there any monitor than dosesnt have that lag.? Not only am I using the dreams lens, but the Nikkor 28 f1.4 200 F2.0 IF-ED AI-s, Nikkor 600 4.9 IF-ED ....oo.. none of which have margin for error in manual focusing. Thanks for your help

[@cameralabs]

@@gregoryrogalsky6937 have you tried the Ninja?

[@tomperry9034]

If you don't have 4k and need a monitor, looks like a solid-ish solution.

[@cameralabs]

Remember you can record 4k internally in the camera like I did and still use the M1 as an external monitor and 1080 recorder.

[@serhioromano]

So now use android phone as a streamer? Title of video is very confusing. Tricked me into watching whole video.

[@cameralabs]

There's no trick. The accessory clearly stated in the title 'ACCSOON M1 review' lets you use an android phone for all those things.

[@serhioromano]

@@cameralabsI can read. It say Android phone as HDMI......and streamer. End of statement. ACCSOON review is another sentence.

[@cameralabs]

@@serhioromano I'm sure you can read, and in doing so, you'd know there were only 11 words in this title across one or two lines depending on your screen, so it's not too much of a time commitment to read it all before deciding to watch or not. And right at the start of the video, I also say it's a review of the ACCSOON M1, so it should be pretty clear what it's about, allowing you to stop watching after a few seconds. Sorry it wasn't what you were looking for.

[@strangejames]

Has anyone actually used this to live stream using 4g/5g from phone? Reviews on amazon sate saying streaming only works with WiFi... 🤔

[@ms7833]

Somehow, Theres just NO way to save recordings on Extra ssd card on smartphone, it automatically savec onto internal phone storage which is much smaller....very stupid that theres is no obvious way to be able to switch on bigger ssd card smartphone storage and not only internal storage....almost 2025...and this is too complicated apparently, and we go in space...wth.

[@cameralabs]

I don't think they even sell this version anymore

[@ruff1draft]

I use an android phone android phone so this is great

[@CharlieVN]

Nice solution over Jerry rigged setups

[@skakdosmer]

It's nice that it's for android, which is what I happen to use, but I really don't think I need this. Or any other external recorder for that matter. And although it's much less expensive than a NinjaV, it's still quite a bit of money. My Canon cameras have flip screens so I don't quite see the point. Those who do video professionally probably know why they need these things. I always seem to forget what the benefits are.

[@pjf7943]

I see the phone is bigger than the camera.. LOL! You need to buy a 'phone' strap and 'phone' bag to carry the phone.. You could put the camera in your pocket and the phone around your neck...

[@cameralabs]

it's a normal sized smartphone and fits in my pocket just fine. The camera is small.

[@cameraz99]

Can't buy these any more. Out of stock.

[@cameralabs]

Yeah it's annoying, I think they're concentrating on the ios version now

[@harryniedecken5321]

Only downside is that it is already too difficult to move files and photos from a phone to a windows or Linux computer. This is especially so if you don't want to use Google services

[@ClaireMcHardy]

Take my money haha

[@cameralabs]

That's what I thought!

[@easygoingguy]

If I'm using this can I just record 4K through my camera and just use my phone as a monitor?

[@Shootdahoops]

Can it connect with Camerafi Live App as external camera source? Is it works with Samsung A series like Samsung A33 or Samsung A53 ? The reason why is because i want streaming a basketball game with a scoreboard overlay and Camerafi Live App provide that feature and also has option to get source from external camera if we use HDMI to USB-C / UVC camera capture .