Andy Goldstein BELIEVES People Rate Gareth Southgate's Time As England Manager Too High! 👀😤

[@purehyperbole5727]

The story being spun is incredible. Southgate's puppy dog eyes have really helped him. His words are a joke. Christ. He got £5 million a year and has mismanaged the team so badly.

[@Fcker-oi8ex]

Got you further than any other England manager in decades.

[@boxingmonkey8621]

I think his eyes are more like a confused squirrels with alcohol anxiety

[@akerfeldt4068]

​@Haydersublate you definitely voted Reform

[@unknowng888]

He got paid millions to fail as England manager.

[@Fcker-oi8ex]

@Haydersublate are you legal? Then you have nothing to worry about. Only the illegal boat jumpers are the issue.

[@wmurray689]

He's not a winner. He's a people pleaser. He knew damn well Harry Kane wasn't fit to piay. It's actually quite scandalous.

[@JoeHayes-v3g]

Exactly

[@TBrl8]

Constantly picking Maguire tells the story.

[@raycope2086]

Kane knew too.

[@DannyTaylorDT]

@@TBrl8I mean it doesn’t, Maguire was constantly one of the best players in every tournament he played

[@leealanjohnson1975]

💯

[@BigAlCapwn]

Goldstein is wrong. Statistically Sam Allardyce is England's best manager. 1 game, 1 win = 100% record

[@kingsleyo]

won one. done one. 🏃

[@irieite9666]

And Nugent is the greatest ever England striker and probably the greatest International player in history. 100% goalscoring record.

[@zeze4605]

@@irieite9666did u watch the same game i did lol where he nicked it off Defoe

[@supercriceto]

My record is the best. I never, ever lost a match as England manager. Okay, I never managed a match but that's not the point.

[@JoeHayes-v3g]

KING SAM

[@subculture2006]

1/10......Southgate was one of the worst managers I've ever seen at this level.... A super talented squad, lucky lucky lucky easy draws, tactically clueless, too defensive, idiotic team selections and moronic in-game management.

[@DukeLemonade]

Couldn't agree with you more.

[@YTA5690]

@@subculture2006 I think Southgate’s new job will be in the mls. That’s his level.

[@subculture2006]

@@YTA5690 I guess there is a small chance a US club would be that stupid but he won't last long there. They want results in America and being good at kneeling, playing boring football and sucking up to the media won't impress them like it did the not fit for purpose FA.

[@paulacklam8888]

Englands best manager …. Fact

[@Barrettszippo]

@@YTA5690 Or Saudi. They'll love his apologetic style out there.

[@kieranbhurut]

Southgate has been paid best part of £40m for the pleasure to part time manage a golden generation to 2nd place ✌🏽

[@redmed10]

And where we before Southgate. Try to keep a little perspective.

[@Barrettszippo]

@@redmed10 Before Southgate we had Allardyce who has a 100% win record...

[@dagogogreene9155]

Spot on, Steve… 8yrs and still the same problem and they expect fans to clap

[@KINGKING10109]

For about 2 months of work a year.

[@Cedisdead]

This team ia nothing against the early 2000 teams but they play better, why? Because you for once had a manager that worked but now you fans have thrown him in the garbage just like your brain.

[@David-xy2ly]

I don’t think England fans rate him at all, games are boring to watch. No style of playing.

[@marcus883]

Agreed just like watching man utd no identity or style of play...a moments team.

[@SomeGamerGuyUK]

A few do sadly. I had a colleague comment saying they thought he did well with the players... so people are just clueless/blind.

[@nudisco7882]

​@@SomeGamerGuyUKlow self esteem - will accept anything

[@richardhillier1593]

No we don't rate him, boring boring

[@ste4392]

​@@marcus883salty

[@jonathang8263]

The mere fact he said "everyone wants to be loved" sums up why he never won anything as a manager.

[@nudisco7882]

THIS THIS THIS!

[@willbentley8856]

god you lot are miserable gits

[@nickwilson1645]

So what sums up why no one else has won anything with England in the last 58 years?

[@lescorlett4133]

Agreed mate. As a manager and team I don't want us to be loved, I want us to be feared.

[@guitarreilly]

@mewho6592 he came 2nd twice. Better than we’ve done in 100 years bar one in 1966

[@dguitar3831]

The fact those defending Southgate base it on, 'Look how bad it was before Southgate, losing to Iceland!' Southgate tactics have barely scraped past teams that Iceland side would have beaten! And the irony is he lost to Iceland in the last tournament warm up game!

[@nudisco7882]

England's low self esteem AND arrogance a bad combination

[@Bcfcuklhpwalker]

Was hogson a top class manager nope another defensive manager use to relegation battles both eddy Howe and Trollope both try to play an been promoted an survive without sitting a whole team behind the ball

[@dguitar3831]

@@Bcfcuklhpwalker yes I want Eddie Howe, he's shown he can play offensive football while also having the best defensive record in the league, was unfortunate with injuries last season. Also his ability to develop players, Anthony Gordon he got the best out of within a couple of months, and also changing Joelinton into a very good midfielder

[@adrianbennett3761]

@@dguitar3831Apparently Howe signed a new contract last year, which would mean huge compensation and he earns double what Southgate was getting, so I can’t see him as next England manager.

[@dguitar3831]

@@adrianbennett3761 It depends how much he wants it then doesn't it. He's said in the past it's something he wants to do, he's got to be excited about being able to develop this current crop of players we have. I think an agreement will be worked out, well fingers crossed!

[@shlomogrundy]

in current world we're living in, failure can be success yay!

[@heppolo]

Sam Ryder's Eurovision 2nd place feeling.

[@Joca497]

🤣🤣🤣 yup

[@Protectchildrenfrompridecult]

Participation trophies.

[@Jim90117]

This is true, even in school sports days there's no winners anymore. No wonder the country has gone down the toilet compared to most other developed nations. Feeling the pain of failure is massively helpful to development. Celebrating failure leads to more failure.

[@jglp892]

But all of you commenting on this have not even achieved a fraction of what Southgate has achieved with his life , man got paid 5 million a year , what do you bunch of successful people get paid ? 😂

[@Cespar997]

You don't "celebrate a final." You celebrate winning a final.

[@heppolo]

C'mon, Belgium celebrated 3rd place. And it was their golden generation

[@yippeeki-yay1691]

​@@heppolo- Maybe that's why their record in international tournaments is comparable or worse than ours..

[@heppolo]

@Haydersublate best Prem players are foreign. Maybe it's time to go to pre Prem restrictions and quotas for local players? Who cares about the quality, people will be watching anyways.

[@boxingmonkey8621]

@mewho6592 the Team Coach Driver would have been able to win the Euro’s with THIS Squad

[@heppolo]

@mewho6592 you absolutely right if you use standard logic. However, English players do not operate under the standard logic. With a modern generation of players a more demanding and ruthless coach could have caused troubles, players wouldn't have been happy with their time in the squad like under Southgate, it would not have been a nice and cosy environment for the egos of those millionaires.

[@bfc3057]

Southgate was paid over £5m per year for his sacrifice

[@heppolo]

After tax and payments to his agent he's left with a fiver.

[@bfc3057]

@@heppolo no

[@purehyperbole5727]

Poor some out for the rich failure.

[@heppolo]

​@@bfc3057these agents are damn costly these days like you wouldn't believe, they make the football not the players and managers

[@markredford84]

i know how the way soygate talks like hes the martyr and hes not been getting 5 million a year to travel around the world and do a part time job. He's a clown

[@paulkenchington6976]

I wished the FA had ended it after the World Cup... Kane should not have played in the final . If what Walker said is correct, about the players dropping back not instructions..Why didn't we see Southgate out, shouting and signalling, move up... We handed the final to Spain on a plate.. Lucky it wasn't 4-1

[@heppolo]

Kane should not have ever played after Iceland 2016 period. Bottled a chance to go 2-0 v Croatia, bottled a UCL final with Tottenham, bottled a crucial pen v France in 2022, ghosted in two European finals. Trophy averse legend.

[@blinkin78]

@@heppolohow did harry kane bottle the champions league final to a far far superior Liverpool team who just finished the league on 97 points? To bottle something you actually have to be winning it first 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@heppolo]

​@@blinkin78i mean, Chelsea beat ManCity which won the Prem easily that season. The difference between Liverpool v Tottenham was a Divock Origi v Kane, serial winner v serial no-show

[@blinkin78]

@@heppolo I’m a liverpool fan. There was no way in a million years spurs were winning that final with or without Harry Kane. Whatever about the other stuff, your talking absolute nonsense saying anyone bottled that final. You can say Man City bottled theres, cause they were major favourites. Do you understand how it works?

[@ForzaMilan-di2zd]

Kane only shouldn't be playing because Southgate had in Midfield. There was no outlet, so why we keep playing side to side football then back to Defence. Finally someone has come out with Goldstein pointing out the teams fact. Goldstein spot on for a change

[@broca246]

8.5 out of ten is INSANE! Like I keep saying football punditry is dead

[@pokemon1996ism]

Goldbridge is a wolly but at least he keeps it real

[@redzbass6254]

Yep, 'Get along Club'

[@pauldon1263]

Southgate needs to come out and explain why he decided to play players out of position in a major tournament!

[@ezeee595]

Explain to whom? To all the KZbin experts?

[@paulacklam8888]

We need to realise that our players ,who we think are world class,are not as good as we think they are.

[@jlhus5615]

Only clowns will rate Southgate his been handed easy routes to finals with piss easy teams and still bottled plays the most boring football even my nan can do a better job

[@michaelmccreery8192]

Stop talking shite

[@ezeee595]

Who handed him the easy route? Would you rather play boring football and get to the final ? Or play exciting football and go out in the group games?

[@jlhus5615]

@@ezeee595 I would rather none

[@ezeee595]

@@jlhus5615 I promise you, if he had won the final nobody would be talking about boring football. Everybody would be talking about how pragmatic his approach was. Whether we like it or not, he has done better than all those who came before him in the last 50 years. England has NEVER made it to two consecutive finals in its footballing history. In many ways he did the impossible.

[@jlhus5615]

@@ezeee595 No we wouldn't because before that we should of won the last Euros back than it was more hard for us to compete with world class players like Zidane Henry and the Brazil team there shouldn't be any excuses now we shouldn't of never gave the job to Southgate aka Mr Bean

[@Jim90117]

I don't know how you can sit through the group stages games, Slovakia, Denmark and then thank Southgate for that. Some of the most dull, uninspired and incredibly lucky performances with incredibly lucky teams being faced. How on earth can you thank someone for sitting through that? Clearly casual fans that don't watch decent football and have absolutely no clue.

[@WilsonWilson33]

I went off him when he became a voice for BLM and then demanded England players were vaccinated. I haven't watched England since. Hopefully the new man will keep politics out of the game.

[@spiktan]

I am Chelsea fan , I can relate to the Gareth Southgate experience with our team .Chelsea ,from 2007 to 2010 was brimming with world class talent that serially challenged for top honours ,domestic and continental all the way to the business end. What they often lacked however, was that ‘it’ factor when it counted, primarily due to managerial shortcomings.The 2007/2008 season, in particular, stood out. Avram Grant took over mid-season almost in the same manner that Gareth did as an interim measure . While he was tactically inept and in over his head ( like Southgate) , individual performances carried the team. Like England, they had multiple “almosts” that season but never quite reached the top. Avram was very nice likeable guy but he just didn't cut it and they moved him along sharpish. The late Ray Wilkins once said this was probably one of the strongest Chelsea squads ever assembled. They were formidable because they managed and organized themselves on the pitch, often relying on individual brilliance. However, they lacked the slight course correction at key moments in the season and cup games to actually win something and those can only come from a competent manager . Enter Carlo Ancelotti in 2009, the squad finally achieved its potential, winning the title by a canter in 2010 from Manchester United. I feel like the England squad is in a similar predicament now. Gareth had the job for 8 years. Just being a nice ,likeable guy is not going to cut anymore .Especially if you truly have ambition to win.Just him talking and whining about being loved tells me all I need to know,when he hasn't actually won anything.The Peps,Klopps and Mourinhos of this world understand that winning is what counts in the end , almost is alright but ultimately,not good enough.

[@classicsportclassictiyl8547]

The 09/10 title race went to the season's final day, but ultimately, they comfortably secured the championship on that decisive day.

[@Folkenheath145]

Since you bring up Chelsea, I don't think they've ever been the same since Terry, Costa,nand the old guard of Ivanovich And matic left. Feels like they've never had that "ompth" since. Maybe lacking a Terry replacement for long term captain?

[@RBernsCarter]

People seem to think that we are at the level of Spain, Germany, France, Italy, Brazil and Argentina. We aren’t and never have been

[@kevinkenny6975]

Nonsense.

[@FootkerSnooball]

"Never have been"?? You must be very young. France failed to qualify for back-to-back WorldCups 1990 & 1994 and 1998 in France was the first WorldCup they won 32 years after England won it. Spain didn't win WorldCup until 2010. Argentina needed to cheat vs England to scrape through in 86 and they needed 75mins playing with 12 men vs 10 to scrape through just on a shootout after England had a wrongly disallowed winning goal and Argentina handballed it near the end of extra-time which should've been a golden goal pen but when there was a fair game at the next WorldCup England knocked them out. It's only because of Messi that they'd be deemed as better than England over the last decade or so but still can't really tell because haven't played them in a major tournament recently they've been knocked out by losing 4-0 though in 2010 and 2018 they scraped 16th. I'm pleased Messi won it 2022 but otherwise they're not that good and are dirty and need to play act and be unsporting to have any real chance of winning.

[@ezeee595]

And never will be. Trophy-less for 6 decades. Speaks for itself.

[@ezeee595]

@@FootkerSnooballyou seem to have forgotten England did not qualify for the WC from 1970 to 1982. Failed to qualify for 1994 WC too. List of failures is endless.

[@TM-us5ti]

England beat Argentina in 1966 and 2002 World Cups.

[@markc2570]

Was never a Southgate supporter. He definitely raised the bar in terms of progression in tournaments, but not in terms of winning trophies he didn't deliver. The last dozen or so games have been a struggle. Right time to go. Thanks Gareth.

[@sambrown8301]

Nah man when the coldplay song came on i was dead 💀💀💀

[@MyFullers]

Gotta agree with goldstein. He had an unbelievable squad of attacking players and played deep defensive football

[@ezeee595]

@@MyFullers best individuals don’t make best teams. Never forget that. You are talking like a fan, rather than someone with any footballing sense. Spain is the living proof of what I just said. Great team made up of good individuals - with exception of rodri and the wingers who are outstanding.

[@MyFullers]

@@ezeee595 what Premier league team do you manage, with all that knowledge? Or are you just a fan too?

[@ezeee595]

@@MyFullers I definitely know more than you. That is for sure.

[@19822andy]

Achieved the bare minimum we expected and never delivered in the big games. He stumbled onto a formation that partially worked during this tournament and then threw it out of the window because he was shook by the fact we had to play Spain and reverted back to the formation that didn't work.

[@ezeee595]

England is a mediocre team. That is why they never win anything. Hyped up to be something they clearly are not. We have seen it time and time and time again. before each tournament kicks off, you have already won it.

[@sshee179]

I will always remember southgate as the manager that got england relegated, and 2 losing finals playing shite.

[@benjac9]

I completely agree with Andy Goldstein. Southgate was employed as a Football Manager to win trophies, he failed. His lack of courage cost England. Still can’t comprehend why Watkins & Palmer were not given more playing-time. Kane wasn’t match-fit.

[@beniwal.mayank]

Linkin Park IN THE END suits perfectly for Southgate.His biggest achievement is Raising the Bar for Eng success🙌✅️✔️👍

[@chazclifford327]

Dont think I've ever agreed with Goldstein, but he's absolutely applied a nuanced, objective and contextual approach. Far too many time when I hear people who mark Southgate high, it's because they grade Gareth as being the astute statesman and loyalist. At times focusing more on the character than his managerial qualities

[@ironclad57]

I don’t rate him at all. He’ll prob get a knighthood now for failing.

[@ezeee595]

Bobby Robson got one for reaching the semis in Italia 90. GS def deserves one for reaching two EURO finals in a row....AND...EURO is harder than the WC.

[@TimothyFagg]

Got us further than any other manager I’ve come across and I’m almost 50 gave me finals I’ve never witnessed, thank you Gareth ❤

[@Larry4life]

People really need to be more respectful. The treatment our lot has given Southgate has been embarrassing.

[@dagogogreene9155]

There’s a good reason why? Luus enrique won a treble and was sacked

[@richardcummins5465]

Couldn't believe how many England corners and free kicks ended up with Pickford?

[@SLM3573]

he will be remembered for what he did off the pitch far more than anything he did on it. Of those 4 finals I would say only Spain was the game where I couldnt see them getting anything all the other games England were on top and chose to sit back and allow the opposition to get back into the game he didnt change things when he should have. Top managers react in game to ensure winning positions dont end up as losing ones

[@simonmc7875]

He's a participation manager... with that exact personality. Not a winner mentality. Not ruthless.

[@ezeee595]

I’m sure you can do a much better job. Apply for his position.

[@Heartstone-h8y]

​@@ezeee595why do you keep posting this asinine comment? Are you his mother or something? By your logic the only people who should be able to criticize international football managers are other international football managers, as of you have to be something to recognise that someone else doing the same thing isnt good enough - a facile belief in the extreme.

[@davidjames1377]

Excellent description, participation manager.

[@simonmc7875]

@@ezeee595 silly retort. But hopefully now we do get a better 'winning mentality' manager... and not one that thinks participation is enough.

[@ezeee595]

@@simonmc7875 I bet you anything that in two years time you will be spouting the same nonsense about whomever takes over. People like you always find something to moan about. That’s the problem with football. Everyone think of themselves as experts in the field.

[@JayDeeChannel]

Who is Graham effin potter ffs. The FA had got the money. Klopp is available. He likes the uk. Pay him what he wants.

[@wasimdbala349]

What don't you understand about "HE WANTS A BREAK FROM FOOTBALL" . Why do you lot have such difficulty understanding this concept?

[@footyball66]

@@wasimdbala349 England is a break, what do we have.... 7 matches a year. He barely has to do anything.

[@wasimdbala349]

@@footyball66 He's not coming back to coach England, get over it. You lot should be ashamed begging for a foreign manager to manage an ENGLISH squad. Find an English manager to take you to glory. You don't feel any embarrassment needing a German to help you achieve ENGLISH success? Utter Nonsense

[@JoeHayes-v3g]

Klopp isn’t taking on England ffs

[@tobyireland2371]

Klopp won’t go, not about money for him

[@tvgcmma9215]

Results wise He achieved the minimum of what was required - previous managers didn’t do that so did better than them - but for example on 1986,1990,1996 we lost to the winners so didn’t make finals but while no proof I’d say Robson or el tel would’ve won a comp if had the lucky draws and ref decisions he had

[@TM-us5ti]

Good point, El Tel deserved more time and Hoddle too.

[@bucharestred]

Can't stand listening to all these sycophants saying about his "successes", 2 finals and a semi-final. The fact is that any above average manager with the world class talent available to him would have probably won 3 trophies. So NO, Southgate was not that good. Sorry.

[@nudisco7882]

England needs to grow up. This was first legit chance to get trophy. They did have a chance against France but England was the underdog.

[@kennethbruce-tagoe9251]

"world class" talent according to who?....this is where English fans get it wrong in my opinion. There are virtually hundreds of "Fodens" in Spain and South America,..nobody really makes noise about them...... I doubt if anyone outside English fans believed England were favourites in this competition. It's ok to support your country but keep the expectations reasonable...

[@wasimdbala349]

They're delusional, and they take their delusions out on a decent manager who had the most success in a quarter century. Mad

[@ezeee595]

Sweetie!!! England is NOT a world class talent. Okay babes!!!

[@Pedtip]

People keep bringing up how will always qualified under Southgate. It's virtually impossible not to. There are now 214 international teams, there used to be 75 so back then there was more strength in depth.

[@martinguy7609]

When Southgate got us to the Euro 2020 final Goldstein said no one can ever question him and everyone should trust whatever he wants to do because it gets us further than anyone else in our lifetime...

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

he achieved one outstanding result in his reign which was the 3-2 vs Spain in the Nations League. he hasn't achieved an outstanding result aside from that. Every other top nation we haven't beaten... the reason we've gotten to the latter stages of tournaments is because of the runs we've had to get there. We've got hugely fortunate with draws and STILL not got over the line

[@marklydall8635]

he was only supposed to be a stop gap manager.........shoulda stayed that way

[@iwonabesedated5748]

Southgate deserves more credit than he's getting. Him bringing the players together is the only reason we managed to get to two finals and a world cup semi. We've had better squads in the past that achieved nothing. If the next manager wins anything he has southgate to thank.

[@gohumberto]

He took us as as far as his talent allowed. 102 games in charge. How many does anyone remember where we dominated a game with World class football? He improved the structure at the FA, and that may be his crowning achievement, but he doesn't have the instincts required, at the highest level, to get us across the line, even with the best players in generations. He repeatedly came up short, when it came to selections, tactics, and in-game management. He turned an attacking squad into 11 Gareth Southgates, over-cautious, defensive, slow .... boring. That's just about acceptable if you win something, but losing, playing truly awful, boring, unwatchable, football, will be my memory of his time in charge. Does anyone think that Argentina, Brazil, Germany, Italy, Spain or France celebrate getting to a semi-final or final and losing? Nah ... because they all know it's not long since they won something, and it won't be long before they win something else. It will be 60 years of hurt soon.

[@dagogogreene9155]

Begging for love… that’s what losers do, winners are admired!

[@njfr9389]

2 finals from 4 he did well tbh, we just need to get over the winning line

[@Gilly9244]

Absolutely spot on Andy

[@badass6323]

2 back to back euro finals is an achievment that no other england manager achieved.

[@lawrencebowden9282]

It's very difficult to be gracious in defeat when it keeps happening

[@LteasAVFC]

What left Southgate down this tournament was playing Harry Kane unfortunately.

[@ezeee595]

What would you have done?

[@iandavis8047]

​@@ezeee595 played a fit & mobile striker..like every other sane team manager

[@ezeee595]

@@iandavis8047 then you should apply for his role. I’m sure you will do a great job.

[@celloassini9117]

Real talk from Goldstein💯👌

[@Eggplantation-lh4yc]

If GS was running a company he would never have had 4 chances. His entire time was summed up by the throw in 20 yards fron the Italy box when it was 1-1. The ball was thrown back to Pickford who booted it out, Spain grabbed it and within 5 mins in was 2-1.

[@heppolo]

Pep had 7 chances to win UCL with all the money in the world at ManCity. Any other manager would have been sacked after Lyon loss. Only Lukaku managed to give Pep his ManCity UCL.

[@Barrettszippo]

"the throw in 20 yards fron the Italy box when it was 1-1", you sure you were watching the right final there mate?

[@dagogogreene9155]

Did you check Man City’s cabinet before the UCL? Then got them to semis, finals and finals again (ucl in the bag). That’s what winners do

[@heppolo]

@@dagogogreene9155 Southgate did the same (2 finals, QF and semis), who knows, maybe on 7th attempt he would have won something by sheer luck 🤔

[@geodude247]

That's a terrible analogy if Southgate was running a company he would be considered a massive success for how far he has taken the company from where they were when he started.

[@pppscooby]

When you look at how deep he made it into tournaments it looks like a success, but when you list off the teams he beat and lost too it doesn’t look so good. 6/10 for me.

[@DeanRTaylor]

A 7/10 if he left after qatar. 6/10 after this euros, getting to the final was good but we have stunk the tournament out. This tournament has been. 3/4 out of 10 on performances vs squad and competition. 2018 was an 8/9 out of 10, my favourite tournament as an English fan.

[@D1al-ton3]

Have to agree with Goldstein. We haven’t got as far because of Southgate. We got to this final, because despite the manager trying to force players into a system and positions that don’t suit them… they’re so got that they were still able to find a way

[@HB2K-h8m]

Name me an England manager in the last 50 years that has achieved more. Particularly given what he inherited

[@heatonhaz]

they all achieved nothing equally by my counting. "What he inherited" was a team that lost to Iceland right? Next manager can say the same thing.

[@jpwartist]

Goldstein changes his tune more times than a pub jukebox.

[@MathewParker-by4nx]

Put it this way. If a Liverpool manager had 4 goes at the fa cup and eventually lost to a premier league team in the semis and final having beaten League 2 & League 1 sides en route, would it be considered a successful series of FA cup campaigns?

[@fleason771]

This is bloody harsh. It's the players who step on that pitch who are to blame. They have been given the opportunity to win something twice now & failed to grasp that moment of immortality that awaited them. We got lucky to have fortunate runs to get to where Gareth has taken us but just because we have players who individually thrive at club level does not mean we have some divine right to be beating anyone, we HAVE to prove it. Over the last 8 years they just have not been collectively good enough. We cannot hold possession of the ball & pass under pressure when it comes down to other teams, the best we can hope for is to attack & go to score goals. When we get knocked out in the Quarter Finals in the World Cup of 2026, it will be a brave defeat but if we don't get hold of the ball we won't win a thing

[@lescorlett4133]

Spot on Goldstien, couldn't agree more.

[@beefsuprem0241]

Why is the media in general giving him a pass for continuing with a failing Plan A. Players out of position, Kane unfit and miles off it playing, panic late subs his signature move. Taking 1 unfit LB to a tournament, experimenting in tournament with TAA as a midfielder. And we've been a hard watch throughout.

[@Mark12106]

Not once did either really say, He had the greatest bunch of English young players in decades without those he wouldn’t have lasted a year

[@TM-us5ti]

My favourite England managers in my lifetime would be Venables for his love of the game and craftiness and Robson for his passion and honesty.

[@ezeee595]

None of whom won anything.

[@ezeee595]

@@TM-us5ti what’s that? Sounds like a Mickey Mouse tournament that nobody cares about.

[@TM-us5ti]

@ezeee595 if you're looking for winners since Alf Ramsey then it's just Hoddle with Le Tournoi. Venables deserved more time.

[@ezeee595]

@@TM-us5ti tell me you can do better than this. So winning that trophy is an achievement??? Most teams were there to test out their subs.

[@TM-us5ti]

@ezeee595 I'm just saying that's all there has been since 1966. Slim pickings.

[@LeeTurnock-zy2dg]

5:40 Southgate was never honest about his tactics. Against Italy he clearly was playing for penalties rather than going for it, even though they had the monster that is Donarumma in goal. He sat back on a 1-0 lead against Croatia rather than going for the second. Against Spain he got is equaliser then played for extra time, rather than hitting them whilst they were on the ropes. He was a good manager to get us performing to the deeper elements of a tournament but he needed to be replaced with an elite.manager who can finish the job. I fear we'll step backwards with Potter or Carson.

[@heppolo]

Against Italy I am sure he was trying to win, but at the same time there is a foundation "do not concede at any costs" which held England back. And also Kane ghosted so hard in that final it's insane.

[@yippeeki-yay1691]

​@@heppolo- As poor as Kane was, you'd think after managing him for about 100 games Southgate would realise you don't get the best out of Kane by leaving him totally isolated with 70 yard long balls constantly being pumped at him.

[@stevieweevyC]

Did I imagine those three headers on the line at the end? No one is mentioning that gazza moment. Did I dream that bit??

[@LexRex11]

It's criminal not to start Trent and Gomez. Both have lots of experience in high pressure games and cup finals. Also waited to long to influence the games with substitutions.

[@Folkenheath145]

England don't like Liverpool players for some reason

[@Thetruefinesser1000]

Andy Goldstein spoke some sense in his show for once. One of the few occasions we agree on.

[@slayouthsoccer]

As a sports journalist, I've seen many teams with impressive stats and paperwork fail to deliver on the field. Just because a team looks good on paper doesn't mean they're guaranteed to win. The commentator is right that England should win, but 'should' is just a word - it's not a guarantee of success. The British media and fans need to understand that football is a challenging and unpredictable sport, and it's the British media and fans who are often guilty of hyping up their players to unrealistic levels, setting them up for disappointment.

[@mervynpeters]

Fans want an elite manager & not too concerned with personality Trophies!!!

[@ezeee595]

@@mervynpeters name an elite manager.

[@AuroraBorealis11111]

That music 😂 I’m having a pint to celebrate ❤

[@FactCheckingCuz]

End of the day Germany excepted we always lost once we faced a top 5 football nation. And Croatia and Italy were not all time great teams. He just happened to avoid those teams until the final stages. To me he did the same job as the likes of Venables and Sven, they just ran into all time great teams like Argentina, Brazil, Germany earlier in tournaments

[@GamerFlair]

Everyone is still being bitter about losing. They have short memories (or are too young to remember what came before). In the 5 Euro's prior to Southgate, we made 2 quarter finals, 1 last 16, failed to get out the group stage and failed to even qualify for one. With World Cups, its 1 quarter final, 2 last 16s, one failure to get out of the group and 1 failure to even qualify. Southgate got us to 2 euro finals, a world cup semi final and a world cup quarter final. Thats a VAST improvement. The squad is good, but the squad of players avaliable is no better then what we had during the 2000s. With great tactictical managers like Eriksson and Capello. People focus in on Hodgson and Mclaren, because the squad wasn't great there and they weren't the greatest of managers (Hodgson actually was pretty good at one point in time, but he was well, well past his best by the time he was England manager). People say all he did was stop the players fighting with each othert and playing as a team, but that is also part of being a manager and NO-ONE else had managed that since Venables.

[@ianrafferty7379]

Please don't put Andy and Andy together again, it's painful watching these two interact...I'm glad southgate has gone, I NEVER RATED HIM

[@xmazer22]

People don't rate Southgate but he has done better than most managers , give him his flowers boys, 2 finals

[@darrenporter1850]

Late nights, early mornings. Tough life as worlds highest paid manager with a competition every 2 years flying and dining VIP.

[@DonswatchingtheTube]

Like Vinny Jones use to say, "It's been emotional!"

[@broca246]

Finally somebody talking with sense!

[@ShropshireFox]

Lampard seems like the best fit for me. Plus his coaching team would be Ashley cole, john terry...

[@The-Alcoholic-Author]

He said he took the job to improve English football, but somehow never realised that playing so defensively was not the way to do it. Talksport also need to stop bringing Gareth's mates up here to talk nonsense. Before a tournament its "we have the players to win this" and after the tournament its "expectations were too high, we've never won before"

[@1972dsrai]

Not saying he’s the perfect candidate, but what about Lee Carsley? He just won the Euro’s with the U21 team. He’s Irish, but he’s been in charge of team since 2021 and done pretty well and obviously has experience of leading a team to victory in a big international tournament. He would also know all about which players can be brought through to the full team.

[@Folkenheath145]

Carsley was born in England.

[@phoenixreborn6065]

I actually think it's the opposite people are WAYYY too negative about Gareth. Yes he has SOME tactical faults however considering where we were after the Iceland defeat it's been a good journey under him and he helped build the foundations of a great team so thank you Gareth!

[@Rich0029]

We’ll know how good he’s been after next couple of tournaments.

[@michaeljames7931]

Gareth Southgate record, finished fourth 2018 World Cup, quarter-final World Cup 2022, runners up in Euro Final 2020 and 2024. How is this a bad record? Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe many England players are overrated? Ever considered the fact that the pundits and the media often exaggerate England's chances?

[@fcidbu]

7 is extremely generous

[@TBrl8]

He did give us England fans some great, great moments, but not winning against Italy was absolutely criminal. That is his biggest failure, bang average Italian side at Wembley, negative cautious play cost us dearly. That was our true chance, Spain are miles ahead of us.

[@bigerichunt9413]

Goldstein is right, for a change. Southgate's achievements have been exaggerated by: a) ridiculously easy routes to the latter stages of tournaments; b) comparisons with the under achievements of England managers since 1966. But if we base it purely on what Southgate could've achieved with the quality of squads he's had since 2018 then he has done the bare minimum. We should have won a tournament by now.

[@matthewdoyle3628]

I didn't enjoy the brand of football, I found the man as inspiring as a kick in the nuts, But he got us to 2 Euro Finals. I think his lack of courage and the way we played in those finals will wash over his achievement.

[@davemrec]

Why would I??? Southgate said he could do the job not me. 8 years and achieved zero.

[@richardcummins5465]

There was enough talent in that squad to have beaten Spain. Poor management.

[@ROCKYBLUEDOGS]

I blame that song 'Football's Coming Home' that's a song you can only sing after you win a trophy not before .

[@oufc90]

You don’t understand the meaning of the song

[@Ste-g5n]

England, best manager, thank you, Gareth

[@davidharris1686]

6 outta 10 on competition results. Beat who we should have, and lost to teams who we had at a least a 50/50 chance against. Got the players wanting to play for England again but that shouldnt bump his marks up. Its a results business at the end of the day and every time we came up against someone decent, we lost.

[@UlriQ]

England fans …we’re incredibly deluded. Goldstein is testament to that. He used Jurgen Klopp as an example (a club manager) of how you win after years of trying. Stop giving these people Mics!

[@markbliss1311]

What's Eddie Howe won ? What's Graham Potter won ? We'll just get the same frustration.

[@Folkenheath145]

Progressive and more building a fluid project.

[@Tech_Time_with_Rick]

All that matters are results and trophies, don't care about pleasing the media or fans as long as there's a trophy

[@SukiStackhouse18]

Andy Goldstein is absolutely spot on. Its time we stop sugar coating things. A no-nonsense approach is what we need. I would give Southgate a 6/10 tbh.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

He took two injured players to the euros, shaw and kane, and if kane had anything about him he would have dropped himself, he's got form for playing while injured in a final ask any spurs fan. Big sam has the best win ratio 100%😂

[@james.butler.]

Excited to see the doccos

[@Murph_82]

Goldstein calling it out!.. these other pundits need to get a grip!

[@adtastic1533]

Sven and Capello were better managers of England than Southgate they just didnt have the same luck with the draw and managed in a tougher era of international football.

[@oufc90]

Sven and Capello lost against the first team we weren’t necessarily expected to beat too. Brazil 2002, Portugal 2004 and 2006, and Germany 2010

[@heppolo]

Make Beckham the manager for the laughs. He'd also play occasionally for set pieces, so a win-win situation