Sick video Andy. Shredding the gnar!! Steve's custom Orange kept up with the ultra motor so I'm sure that will raise eyebrows. I might shoot a video comparing a Specialized Levo vs my bafang ultra bike. Keep up the vids mate and digging the new track towards the end of the vid 😁
@colossuses4 жыл бұрын
A video comparing the two would be great 😁👌🏿
@sigmaoctantis_nz3 жыл бұрын
Have you enabled field weakening on the Phaserunner to increase top speed? I can accelerate from a stop to around 60kph without changing gear on my BBSHD making it great for town use. It's possible to get to 80kph (50mph) in higher gears but probably not good for the motor starting like that.
@rodolfobaliga75772 жыл бұрын
Wow nice, are you using the mid hub 750w motor?
@HUJUism4 жыл бұрын
Love the smooth ride of hub motors no matter what.
@ianmangham45702 жыл бұрын
I love my super smooth rear hub motor, it just keeps on cruising like butter
@arnaudsemelet60502 жыл бұрын
@@ianmangham4570 Do you think its op to build a mid-drive (bbshd) and a 750w front hub motor? for some strong power🤭
@ianmangham45702 жыл бұрын
@@arnaudsemelet6050 I'd go mid drive only as they're the best
@broadsworddannyboy6554 жыл бұрын
Hiya Andy. I’ve just built a 1500watt hub motor bike with 52volt battery. So my my question to you is. What’s the difference between the basic Chinese speed controller you get with the kit and a phase runner SC? And does it include pedal assist? Would you recommend the investment to change it? Cheers,Danny
@TommyLuptak4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been building electric propulsion for 10 years. So what electric bicycle or vehicle do you need? All of them. Lol Build for what you need. And size motor, controller and battery for the task 😁 Thank you for your videos here!!!
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes4 жыл бұрын
Very nice and informative video. Quite fun as well! You forgot to say hub motor is much cheaper.
@tallcool1jeff3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to say mid Drive is far superior to HUB Drive
@ixxolos4 жыл бұрын
Praise be to GrinTechnologies for the Phaserunner! Such a sweet bit of kit
@20maxpower3 жыл бұрын
HI what's the phase runner is it a controller please? Warren
@ixxolos3 жыл бұрын
@@20maxpower Yes it is a FOC Controller. Link for all the info here: ebikes.ca/product-info/grin-products/phaserunner.html
@dougfurr52173 жыл бұрын
I like the phaserunner, but removed it for the Ludicrous(BBSHD specific). I still get 3kW @52v(58.8) but no wires to deal with, as it is a direct replacement/ swap/ upgrade to the original. For some motors, there are better alternatives, but not many that do so many different motors as well as the phaserunner does. My motor does run much cooler with the Ludicrous vs when it was on the Phaserunner.
@francisogrady17804 жыл бұрын
Good video nice to see the 2 being compared, have a mid drive myself love it, but thinking of getting your 5000w bike for myself Andy. Sent you an email with some questions looking forward to hearing from you Andy..
@craigelliott4338 Жыл бұрын
Not long found you two. I live close by, I'm definitely testing my build there, I usually row or hike there... can't wait to tear it up.
@ronniew9454 жыл бұрын
When do you think you'll have the battery and controller in the same housing ?
@BillyNoMates19744 жыл бұрын
Good video. Good test. Andy are you planning on any more vids in the shed ? How’s Sarah these days, she hasn’t posted in a while ? Hope she’s ok
@andykirby4 жыл бұрын
Shorts??
@martinfieder7264 жыл бұрын
Have both, if you are realy Mountainbiking on steeper hills and Mountains only the midrive works, as you have to shift to lower gears. However in rather flat Terrain the hub is a perfect Option.
@dennisyoung46313 жыл бұрын
My experience was the BBS-HD had *much* better pulling power compared to a 750 watt hub, and was significantly more efficient regarding power per mile/kilometer. It was also nearly *silent,* even if the hub wasn’t particularly noisy. Mobil 28 grease in both...
@tallcool1jeff3 жыл бұрын
Midland Motors is far superior to the hub
@ApocGuy2 жыл бұрын
would be hub efficient for up to 15 degrees hills? most are under 10, but there are some steep sections where it get 12+... or would it be better to buy 1000/1500 mid drive and get slightly lower top speed?
@pointno945 Жыл бұрын
I have a trek Roscoe 6 2022 model can I put a 3000w" mtx 39 kit on it
@cwitham694 жыл бұрын
The tortoise & the hare ... Thanks for another great test/review mate! I run a 6061 alloy FS frame with a 52v-21aH LunaCycle BBSHD w/ Hot Rod programming using a Shimano 3-speed IGH chained to 52T/22T gears. Huge torque in 1st gear and 47mph on the flats top end. I cruise with normal traffic & walk abouts at sane speeds and more than respect laws. I'm more than satisfied!
@AliMohammed-tq8ym4 жыл бұрын
I wish they would change the law it is quite safe to stay up with traffic and what did I read 47mph 😃wohh 👍👍
@cwitham694 жыл бұрын
@@AliMohammed-tq8ym Yeah, I agree and believe that traveling at/with traffic speed is safer than being an obstacle to it. I love 'flying' on two wheels!
@gingerichdylan99993 жыл бұрын
@@cwitham69 How is it working out for you 10 months later? I am looking to do a similar build, anything I should keep an eye out for?
@cwitham693 жыл бұрын
@@gingerichdylan9999 It performs really well. I really enjoy it. It gets a lot of attention on the roads too. I would invest in as much battery as you can afford and keep it at 80% only charging it to 100% when you're going to ride.
@TommyLuptak4 жыл бұрын
Grin has that GMAC geared hub with regen. 2500watts but some are peaking them at 4Kw. I love regen and because it’s a 5 to 1 geared hub, the regen braking brings you to a complete stop 😊. Omg. Now I have to build one.
@coolhawk20033 жыл бұрын
$$$
@doc28213 жыл бұрын
@@coolhawk2003 also, geared hubs tend to overheat at high power compared with dd hubs
@integra85023 жыл бұрын
You should put your mid Drive in a gear that gives same Top speed as the Hub,. then do the test staying in that gear.
@AliMohammed-tq8ym4 жыл бұрын
Andy /Steve loved da video keep it going guys can’t wait for da next one 👍
@007080463 жыл бұрын
Great comparison and fair analogy . Maybe do a leisire rough trail comparison with climbing and no racing , swapping bikes and both giving your opinions . Something for the average Joe .
@bobpatty29374 жыл бұрын
Which is better? Easy! Both! My ride sports a Bafang mid drive fed at 72v(bac800) and a 8000w hub with single speed cassette (52/28) 72v 72150 Sabo. Both are fed by two 72v 30amp hour parallel triangular. MUCHO TORQUE bro!
@chargeriderepeat70244 жыл бұрын
I run a geared hub at 2500w max. It stonks a direct drive off the line and up steep hills. Probably the best approach if you want the best of both.
@LukaDukic4 жыл бұрын
which one do you have?
@heroryan78592 жыл бұрын
Which one
@chargeriderepeat70242 жыл бұрын
bafang go6 geared fatbike hub
@chaosman71 Жыл бұрын
The Same by me. But If i juse a mxus fast Wind hub 11 KV the bafang has No Change - in both- top Speed and acceleration
@yodab.at17464 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of adding a mid drive to my bike which already has a rear hub motor. The thinking behind this is I want extra torque for faster acceleration, but would probably switch it so the rear is only driving at max speed. It's a bafang mid, only 250w, but for intermittent bursts, I could probably shove 500-750w before burn... Might be a wheelie monster
@phillee82574 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about doing the same thing because the hub drive doesn't have enough power for steep hills.
@myronmootry78922 жыл бұрын
I've done it it works so awesome mid drive brings the hub drive up to speed, Perfect for my hunting bike which tows a trailer and is really heavy
@yodab.at17462 жыл бұрын
Yep, I went for it. Obscene acceleration but quite hard on the battery. Basically a single speed bike, no greater top speed but ridiculous torque for hills. I favour the hub and use the mid for getting away from the lights and hills.
@thespartenkid2 жыл бұрын
@yoda does the mid drive motor make noise while you're not using it?
@yodab.at17462 жыл бұрын
@@thespartenkid no, it's completely silent.
@JebusPrimeDLC2 жыл бұрын
Do hub motors have any issue with curbs/stairs or bottoming out? Or is there enough clearance for them?
@ChrisRollins4 жыл бұрын
that intro was slick! 🤘🏻
@eamonnthatcher4 жыл бұрын
You spoken about a 1500w motor pushing out 2700w what is that running through a phase runner,I have a 1500w motor with one of 52 volt batteries could run a phase runner for more power
@daved45474 жыл бұрын
@9:14 I thought we were about to see a 'george, watch out for the tree' moment! 🤣
@DudeStuff4 жыл бұрын
Andy was so close 🙈😂
@wayneuk4 жыл бұрын
if u need anything 3d printing iam just out of chelmsford
@neilrogersrogers63135 ай бұрын
These hub drives are great! I've had mine for 3 years and gradually upgraded to a 72 volt battery with a 60 amp controller, running at approximately 3600 watts peak and it goes like stink off the line. sometimes the front wheel even pops up!
@eddiewong4614 жыл бұрын
That ride looked fun!
@OcT4g3n4 жыл бұрын
What is the track at 6:10? One of yours?
@johnw652 жыл бұрын
The mid-drive seems to take it on acceleration from a stop but the hub-motor get better top-end. The middrive is shifting thru gears while the hubdrive is in high gear all the time. Seems to me the Hub rider can assist greatly with pedal assist... and smoke the mid-drive....?
@CHAD-pj8rx Жыл бұрын
What sort of rear drivetrain components do you use on the mid-drive bike to withstand the power?
@Thadon332 жыл бұрын
Which motor creates the least amount of resistance to the rider, while pedaling?
@dna20874 жыл бұрын
If you live in a hilly area, and with the right phaserunner configuration, you have REGENERATIVE BREAKING with the DD. Less brake ware, more range!
@OliEntic4 жыл бұрын
Hello all, I am looking to make a ebike battery but i am stuck between two cells. Do i want to use the cells with a max discharge of 10A but 3500mah with 5 in parallel to make 50A or do i want to use cells with 20A so it would be 510A but with 3000mah. I am using a 1500w motor at 52v so it would be pulling 30A at most. Does it make a difference on the battery if i discharge it at a higher rate? Thanks
@kranson85143 жыл бұрын
That was a blast nice one again.
@frankstocker54753 жыл бұрын
Your mid-drive sounds like you have your mother-in-law on the bike.
@ericklowder64514 жыл бұрын
What about the third option internal geared hubs
@CaptApril1233 жыл бұрын
I think you'd need a mid mount motor for that since it would work exactly the same way as a derailer drivetrain. Unless you mean IGH hub motor, not sure they have those. Hub motors just spin more with applied power, can you gearing inside them?
@ash07873 жыл бұрын
both excellent bikes, I don't know how you lost the races because mid drive is meant to be faster at all speeds. is his hub really a 1500w ? he overdriving it to 3kw ?
@HiPpYBoAtErS4 жыл бұрын
great video thanks Andy
@dahensta14 жыл бұрын
On the vapor, move the thumb throttle to the left side and you may be able to shift gears with the right hand easier.
@andykirby4 жыл бұрын
Hmm on the left it would feel really weird.
@oze-bikes4life6634 жыл бұрын
Yeah i run a left handed thumb throttle on my ebike with a 11 speed Gear selector on the right. Its initially a little wierd but you do get use to it very quickly, makes changing gears alot easier & quicker. It might be an issue for you andy as you have a mid & Hub Drive ebikes so swapping between those bikes with different cockpit control layouts will be confusing ! 🤔😬
@rdkuless3 жыл бұрын
What Bafang display are you using..? And is it standard TFT or Sunlight readable TFT..? i can't see my screen in full sunlight (it becomes completely black.. I'm currently using the 750C and it is useless in direct sunlight.
@salvadorgutierrez21083 жыл бұрын
Fun Fun Fun E-Bikes 😎👍
@aaronmanley78263 жыл бұрын
When are you getting your ebike shop all in stock again most stuff are out of stock
@andykirby3 жыл бұрын
Kirbebike.com is the new shop everything is in stock.
@likeher94 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy Sorry not been around for while, just recovering from My 2nd brain tumour surgery a week ago today. Brilliant film this one mate, and I would totally agree with you, in that hub drives just edge it. Virtually no maintenance, no real noise, and as Electric Rider pointed out - "You don't even need a chain, let alone worry about breaking it!". And I do have both. Andy just a quick question if I may. I have a 1000 watt rear gearless hub setup, 48v 45amp sinewave controller, 52V 28ah LG MJ1 triangle pac. Top speed of around 36/37mph, should I upgrade to the phaserunner? Cheers Andy
@duncanswave4 жыл бұрын
Love ur work mate !!!
@grahamnewman97254 жыл бұрын
Hi! Andy can you have a dual supply or limiter which allows to switch from off road too road use to comply with the law please
@andykirby4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can have profiles with a phaserunner controller and cycle analyst display. That’s a bit like what we do 😉
@garthrobinson29896 ай бұрын
Just saw the video of the trek diy build How much for the kit I’m in South africa
@ericdekwant84383 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Kirby Name is Eric From Australia I'm wanting to extend my range on my ebike Batteries are 48v 21ah on my bike wanting to put 48v 40ah so have combined 48v 61ah My motor is a Bafang M400 with a built-in controller with 17amps Looking for advice Worried the 61ah be to much for the M400 motor and controller Your advice please
@markmonteith38614 жыл бұрын
Andy i have been watching u videos lately i am thinking of building an e bike for my self to get around on i was in a terrible car carsh and broken my back but thankfully i can still walk luckily so i get a lot of pain so cant really work that hard was wondering the best way to go thanks eny help will be appreciated
@nonegiven9579 Жыл бұрын
Can you link the batteries your using pls
@k1ortia4 жыл бұрын
Hub all day...no brainer..!
@xoxfromth4 жыл бұрын
Hub seems a whole, hell of a lot more quieter than the mid-drive. That alone is the game changer to me. O.o
@likeher94 жыл бұрын
You are spot on mate, yet no one ever mentions this?
@swatboy793 жыл бұрын
On a mid drive do you need to lift off the throttle before changing gears (like pedalling on a normal bike) to stop chewing especially up hill?
@andykirby3 жыл бұрын
You should do, some bikes route the gear shift through a sensor that cuts the throttle when you shift.
@MrYorcek Жыл бұрын
7:25 electric version of Top Gear Stig 🤣🤣👍
@TheDudeminator3 жыл бұрын
How does the hub drive handle uphills?
@ivanmcnamee56563 жыл бұрын
Noise wise, your bike seems noisy compared to hub or was that just the vid? Keep up the reviews
@hhead564 жыл бұрын
Great ride love it thanks.
@briankeane64293 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy been watching your videos for the last couple of weeks trying to find out because I’m not very technical computer I’m trying to find out where I would get bike like the viper and how much would it cost for your cells possibly made up
@TKomoski4 жыл бұрын
I worry about efficiency now with my bike. Trying to push out more km's with better matched equipment.
@tm-xz2ng4 жыл бұрын
When does your vapor kits ship was looking says oct thinking of getting one
@dustinsalmeron50062 жыл бұрын
Is this the same watts?
@blowduke3 жыл бұрын
Got much the same krona bike I’ve mounted my battery underneath the bottom tube with some additional straps good for stability,
@kaydenpierre81662 жыл бұрын
Can I put phaserunner on my voilamart 1500 kit
@maxwellmc97342 жыл бұрын
Bomb it... haven't hear that saying since i was younger on a bike.. 🤣😂👍👍☕😎☕Great video you guys..
@davenorman82514 жыл бұрын
Id like to see how a big name mid drive runs with a phase runner fitted, if only I could find a cheap rocky mountain or the like...top vid as always andy cheers.
@andykirby4 жыл бұрын
It would melt the gears most likely as the Bosch gears are plastic, unless you kept to the factory power levels I suppose.
@SimonBauer72 жыл бұрын
@@andykirby bit late but try the yamaha pw. it has metal gears. no plastic crap like bosch.
@juliodefreitas1574 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and thanks for sharing your tips 👍
@Dave64track4 жыл бұрын
Great content really enjoyable to watch I think I'm going to get the rear hub motor at some point. What's the situation with the solar setup these days ? I set up 4 x 250w panels on a shed roof after watching your videos with a 1kw grid tie and it's working really good.
@landonferguson72824 жыл бұрын
Is he using a direct drive hub motor, or geared hub motor?
@andykirby4 жыл бұрын
Direct
@MrSadler5154 жыл бұрын
ARRHH the noise from that mid drive !!!!! Also I ditched the de-railer on my silent fs dd hub conversion {fixed in top gear}. 5 years no problem through the woods.
@andykirby4 жыл бұрын
Haha! I quite like the noise actually 😃 but at the same time I love my other bike with the hub drive which is silent and ridiculously quick!
@dennisyoung46313 жыл бұрын
Mobil-28 grease helps (both kinds) in my experience. BBS-HD can be made nearly inaudible by greasing - quieter than a geared hub, in my experience.
@karlfonner75893 жыл бұрын
@@dennisyoung4631 How is it that you grease the mid drive? Please answer.
@dennisyoung46313 жыл бұрын
@@karlfonner7589 from memory: (might have errors) 1)Remove the side cover. I think it had five 5mm socket head cap screws. 2) if there is grease present, remove as much of the questionable stuff as you can. I used up a fair number of q-tips. Hemostats help. 3) apply Mobil-28 grease, using either a grease gun, or a small spatula. Smear it onto the large gear *thickly.* Warning: this can get messy. 4) reassemble. Note that there are other gears. I did not get at them. My next instance, I will try to lube every gear I can reach! Note-2: Mobil-28 grease is an *aircraft* grease, and hence expensive. I bought mine at Amazon. It was about 23$ for one tube. I plan on getting the (nearly 100$!) tub next time, and repackaging part for sale.
@karlfonner75893 жыл бұрын
@@dennisyoung4631 Thank you Dennis I appreciate your help and instructions
@ash07873 жыл бұрын
hardest part is finding a mountain bike frame thats wide enough at the back, I bought a fairly old pro mountain bike ( seems to have great suspension etc, strong built ) for 350 off ebay a couple years back, but even a 1,5kw motor takes up so much space at the back that you cant use the rear brake.
@niyaz36443 жыл бұрын
Mines fine. Got a 1500w motor on the back with hydraulic brakes. Voodoo hoodoo 2011
@AustinALiboiron4 жыл бұрын
Hey Andy, I've emailed the customer email address on cloudsto thrice now over the course of a couple weeks and I haven't heard back. I've even placed an order for the 1500-2000w kit. I really would like to hear back. Can you look into this?
@brad1464 жыл бұрын
Hi Austin. I've done the same as you and placed an order for the same kit. My mistake was adding a zero on my email address. It took a few attempts to get a reply but Andy came good in the end. Persevere. 👍
@andykirby4 жыл бұрын
Yes sorry, we will get back to you as soon as possible. We are getting a huge amount of enquires at the moment so please bear with us.
@brad1464 жыл бұрын
Hi Austin. Did you get sorted. Have you received your kit yet. I ordered mine 3 and a half weeks ago and still not received it. Its taken 5 days just to get from China to Korea 😒
@xXxserenityxXx3 жыл бұрын
Same bike as in the frame size, wheel, metal and rider weight?
@BloodDruid3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your informative videos
@andykirby3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome.
@heroryan78592 жыл бұрын
What bike is the mid drive one
@theblackbike90834 жыл бұрын
Nice Video! I ride with a hub pretty hard offroad without any problem as you can see in my Videos. Even with a heavy QS205, you just need a good Suspension ;).
@navidmehdi64 жыл бұрын
I have a mid drive (bbs02) ive never tried a hub drive. That being said i think id rather get the hub because theres less maintenance
@robloxianmanz50474 жыл бұрын
If the gears and variability don’t matter as much to you I would definitely go for a hub motor, I currently have the bbs02 set up and have had a hub motor before but I like this one a lot more because of the adjustability on the go. I definitely agree on the maintenance aspect tho it can be a pain if you didn’t know anything about bikes beforehand like I’d did.
@navidmehdi64 жыл бұрын
@@robloxianmanz5047 yh i found out the hard way through trial and error abused till it was unrideable the chain ended up slipping with almost no load couldnt even pedal no electric. replaced the chainwheel and it worked for about 1 month then the chain kept jumping off. turns out i had a stretched chain😂😂 never ever replaced the chain since i bought it used 2 years ago. i recently bought a new chain and its smooth like new altho the 2nd and 3rd gear has issues but im just gonna use it on the 4th till i wear out the chain then replace both the chain and cassette togather.
@timtaomathisen3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a Bike with hub and mid-drive and front motor?
@declan42453 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same
@ashwayn2 жыл бұрын
Why are your saddles set to low ? No good for pedaling
@jasonbrown4672 жыл бұрын
excellent video, except the music, i would prefer to hear the bikes. anyways the concept of this video and its execution was awesome. i wonder what the average hub size is and mid size for that matter. i have several hub motors and people tell me their mid drives can smoke mine on climbs with their 500 to 750 watt mid drives, but i have a qs205 and another 9c 4k hub and can dump 120amp at 75v into them, it is hard to imagine having more torque without breaking the time space continuum. edit: i just seen your name, i have been hearing about you since i built my first bike about a year ago. all good stuff btw lol
@shanethrussell4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reviews. Enjoyed many a time. 1 quick question if you have time. Which is quieter? The hub or the mid mount? I suspect the hub right?
@andykirby4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the hub is basically silent, the mid drive is quite noisy actually but I actually quite like the noise🤣
@nickcarpentier39824 жыл бұрын
I've heard that hubs can struggle up hills. What's your experience?
@DudeStuff4 жыл бұрын
Slows down a bit but if you hit a hill with a little speed it's no issue so far, mid drive had the edge with low gears
@likeher94 жыл бұрын
My 2000 watt rear gearless hub will climb anything My Haibike allmn't midrive will.
@dennisyoung46313 жыл бұрын
My experience with 750 watt hub and BBS-HD is the latter pulls hills a *lot* better. The people in the video are going *much* faster than I did/do... I’m slow enough that I get passed regularly by non-electrified riders. The mid-drive - in my case - was about a third more efficient than the hub. I was *very* surprised.
@Y-J653 жыл бұрын
@@dennisyoung4631 the bbs hd will pull away from a hub that is 750w quite easily. When both motors are outputting similar power figures it’s very close. The mid drive will have the upper hand on hill always. Hub motors shine on flat terrain.
@uvwuvw-ol3fg3 жыл бұрын
@@Y-J65 Depends on a specific mid drive. Tongsheng TSDZ2 for example is losing power on a relatively long moderate hills and is good for short and steep hills from a stop only though.
@olivergodlewski48643 жыл бұрын
Hi I've got a question, could you build my ebike kit for me and how much would that be and also where are you located if I were to drove to you ?
@andykirby3 жыл бұрын
really sorry we don't do builds.
@olivergodlewski48643 жыл бұрын
That's fine
@colinjava84473 жыл бұрын
What bikes are these, I thought you had to pedal to get assistance?
@andykirby3 жыл бұрын
DIY ones mate.
@tchaiquentin4 жыл бұрын
How does a hub drive handle downhill, jumps, etc.,.. how much “weight at the back” does this hub impact the handling with jumps,etc
@OktaFierce3 жыл бұрын
I have 1000w rear hub and they don't. Its like a ton of bricks landing and you end up destroying the rim. Mid drive if you want to do real mountain biking. A lighter 250w hub might be a touch better than a 1000w but still not good.
@sgsuper11504 жыл бұрын
We just need a smart frame that's very light but can cope with full suspension and hold a big triangle 30ah plus battery.
@DivergentDroid3 жыл бұрын
And we need that battery to be 52v and cost 200 dollars.
@herbertwerner22874 жыл бұрын
I there a clear cut winner here out of both bike. Would be nice to have a follow up at the end.
@diyelectricbiker93614 жыл бұрын
I ditched my 1500 watt Hub for a Bafang and the Bafang is much more efficient.. let alone the climbing capabilities. But the Hubmotor was smoother and Quiter.
@coolhawk20033 жыл бұрын
Plus its a mtb then to
@heeroyuy55203 жыл бұрын
D class
@stevemcgowan30173 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy .after watching your ebike videos have you. A recommendation of a decent front hub ebike motor for my giant mountain bike.26inch front wheel.I’ve had voilamart before and various controllers.my wife’s Victoria Pendleton ebike has bafang 250watt motor good range but less speed than I had.my 1000watt motor expired.don’t want spend too much.I did get 30mph from a ego power tool battery 56v 😀.Steve in Cheshire
@qaecobitv22953 жыл бұрын
Whats the helmet called? mate where u get it?
@Bboymoped4 жыл бұрын
What about the other variables not mentioned? That is the differences in your programming between your and Steves phaserunner and also that he is running sensored with halls no? And your still in the sensor less which is bound to impact these tests no? Enjoyed the video and looked mega fun.
@DudeStuff4 жыл бұрын
There's quite a lot of detail covered in part 2 of my bike build and phaserunner setup in much more detail on my channel
@Bboymoped4 жыл бұрын
@@DudeStuff yeah I went over to your channel and had a watch of your videos. Look forward to your part 3 and your wee bloopers too had me 😂.
@DudeStuff4 жыл бұрын
@@Bboymoped 😂 Hopefully be done next week, waited ages for the fabricator to sort the battery tray 🤟🏼
@111midman4 жыл бұрын
Nice subby btw Andy :)
@notofthisworld77773 жыл бұрын
I'll soon have a 1000watt front hub on my middrive bosch I wonder what it'll be like, but the guy says I'll cruise at 30mph 52v battery and bosch 400 battery for middrive
@pitifullyobvious30364 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy - great video - Maybe you could release a video on e-bike insurance theft claims. In this week BBC RIP OFF BRITAIN features how e-bike thefts are increasing and victims are not being compensated by their insurance companies for various reasons. For instance many house insurance claims fail because :- a) You haven't specifically listed the e-bike/s as a high value item on your house insurance. b) You haven't used your Insurance Company's SPECIFIED locks on your shed/garage and IN ADDITION THEIR specified bike anti theft cable/chain. Get their recommended anti theft shed locks AND anti theft devices IN WRITING. c) Some insurance companies will NOT meet the claim if you have left your e-bike in the shed/garage unattended for more than six hours. Most of us are away from home during the day at work for EIGHT HOURS. d) The theft occurred outside the boundary of your property. e) You forgot to renew your house insurance or failed to confirm your e-bike was on cover. E-bikes are expensive highly desirable items which can be thrown into a van in minutes and it's gone. They're easy and quick to sell on. If your e-bike is stolen you might like to check the likely avenues where the thief will advertise it. Thieves need to sell it cheap for a quick sale. Get rid of the evidence and get their next fix. I would :- 1. Get a stamp kit and stamp out a number ( your post code ) somewhere on the bike where it can be seen. Heat the stamp and burn your post code on the plastic components/seat so if your e-bike is recovered by the Police you can prove it's your property. Buy and install a security camera that will alert your mobile phone when triggered by an intruder. I would buy a very small mobile phone ( they smuggle them into prisons - £30 ) and hide it possibly under the seat or make a plastic container and screw it on the bike so it looks like it might be part of the electrical system. It can be configured as a tracker. Insurance companies don't like paying out. It's their profit. It's your responsibility to make sure they are nailed down. Get every thing confirmed in writing.
@lokz96323 жыл бұрын
Can rear hub drive do pedal assist? I am thinking of getting the kit, but I do not want to turn my MTB bicycle to motocycle.
@Crana Жыл бұрын
Yep
@darrenmorris82583 жыл бұрын
How fast does the hub motor go? And how many miles out of that battery?
@aldrinrey43223 жыл бұрын
mid drive is relax sitting in driving but hub is standinng driving
@velocityfpv52314 жыл бұрын
are hub motors able to withstand extremely rocky and bone rattling terrain? I am talking uk downhill series track level rough
@OktaFierce3 жыл бұрын
No
@kanemeasham-pywell923 жыл бұрын
No. That’s where mid drive comes in. Different machines for different jobs
@kanemeasham-pywell923 жыл бұрын
Also why ebike downhill. No point
@OktaFierce3 жыл бұрын
@@kanemeasham-pywell92 The point is that riding up hills sucks ass.
@kanemeasham-pywell923 жыл бұрын
@@liam4686 we have a bus that takes the downhill riders back to the top on weekends locally
@davidu86883 жыл бұрын
Dang nearly 40 with just a hub? Was probably half as much as my pre-assembled bike that does 28 tops on a flat surface, 34 downhill and about 10-15 on a not so steep hill
@khronin3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like my exact speed--I also did 28 with some peddling and hit 34 also down a medium hill.I think they electrically and mechanically govern most hubs. You can raise the speed limiter up on the programming and some folks show how to open and remove whatever keeps them governed.I am going dual drive and am still over 1200 dollars under what a mid drive bike would have cost. I want the torque because i have trails near me that have decent uphills and the 750 while adequate--strains and the last thing I want to do is need it replaced--plus now i have AWD--will use the 750 while I pedal most of the time--and the 1000 for steep hills--that way they both only get used sparingly and will last a lot longer--I will also have the pickup and speed if I need it of a good mid drive.The 1000 is front hub throttle only connected to a 48v 20 ah battery.The 750 with me on PAS 3 is giving me 60 plus range on a charge and with my new setup 100 miles should be easy.
@attackscorpion53232 жыл бұрын
Their are internally geared hub motors, best of both worlds