I BET Victoria 3 will look like THIS in 2025

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Andy's Take

Andy's Take

Жыл бұрын

Is this what Victoria 3 will be like in 2025? My best predictions are on full display right here, with a mix of what's likely, and also what I hope can be part of Victoria 3's future!
Victoria 3 is doing a lot of things right even now, but this game is likely to last anywhere between 5-10 years, and will by the end of it be packed with DLC, expansions AND free updates. The question is, what might they look like, and what would you want to see? Let me know in the comments, and don't forget to like and subscribe!
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@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Is THIS the next Paradox game?! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXuxmoOugamYq6c
@mrjaman3752
@mrjaman3752 Жыл бұрын
Nope, it was Cities Skyines II.
@Luisp1992
@Luisp1992 Жыл бұрын
I think a visual aspect PDX can add to the warfare is replacing the default cannons battling with a squad of irregular units if using them, a line formation of line infantry, and a unit of skirmishers. And it'd be cool to see the map get scarred by trench warfare.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Yeah honestly I just need more animations... those cannons firing in unison with the same cannon fire sounds is tiring
@Luisp1992
@Luisp1992 Жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake yeah and this way you can see at a glance which side is fighting with what.
@tristandavies9597
@tristandavies9597 Жыл бұрын
theyre probably shying away from visualising machine guns gunning down colonised people for the same reasons theres plenty of ww2 stuff they dont include visually in HOI4
@seangallagher9435
@seangallagher9435 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see small armies walking around like how trains or zeplins travel between cities
@abnerrenaud6768
@abnerrenaud6768 Жыл бұрын
YES, i hope to see the same thing, eventhough I rather a more diplomatic approach
@TheAurgelmir
@TheAurgelmir Жыл бұрын
I want more "decision" style gameplay that feels like it matters, like in CK3. The fact that there wasn't a decision for Norway to gain independence from Sweden was a surprise for me. That's like THE event for Norway in this timeperiod, and well it involved Paradox' own nation of Sweden.
@anggaihza3074
@anggaihza3074 Жыл бұрын
The Journal feels like shit, I sense no accomplishment finishing those unlike the Decisions in CK3
@k0ziolRD
@k0ziolRD Жыл бұрын
@@anggaihza3074 yeah, in ck3 you look there all the time. In vic3, i dont use this page at all
@ironheart3980
@ironheart3980 3 ай бұрын
They're just lazy idiots.
@davey2487
@davey2487 Жыл бұрын
CK3 had a similar problem with the UI at launch. It just wasn't very good and rather ugly ckmpared to now. They fixed it in the first few months and they'll do exactly the same with Victoria 3.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@ellidominusser1138
@ellidominusser1138 Жыл бұрын
1.2 is fixing it rn 3 months later
@Bloodysugar
@Bloodysugar Жыл бұрын
My ultimate hope for V3 mod would be a Steampunk revamp, making us able to go up to 2000 or more, but keeping the victorian vibe mixed to insane and steamy technologies.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting!
@cuchuoi12
@cuchuoi12 Жыл бұрын
this game is supposed to be historical not interstella
@yourealittlebitfat4344
@yourealittlebitfat4344 Жыл бұрын
ye no
@Bloodysugar
@Bloodysugar Жыл бұрын
@@cuchuoi12 Moders do whatever they want, people enjoy it or not, that's personal taste and no one is forcing us to install their mods. There's already a mod project about including Chtulhu myths (monsters, cults etc) in V3, many players are excited about it, a steampunk mod wouldn't have less legitimacy.
@cuchuoi12
@cuchuoi12 Жыл бұрын
@@Bloodysugar my bad i thought he was talking about non-mod dlc
@sus10651
@sus10651 Жыл бұрын
I hope some of these updates come before Christmas so I can enjoy this winter.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Me too, Sush, and I’m sure we’ll have a few updates before then!
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 Жыл бұрын
I was disappointed at the lack of Antarctic expedition and Northern passage events tbh. Also a few things annoyed me but they're fairly small and I think they'll get ironed out soon
@jonathanamsberry3971
@jonathanamsberry3971 Жыл бұрын
Oh Anno! My hope is a naval industry rework, such that it simulates the dreadnought race and how it nearly bankrupted several counties.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
that sounds awesome! would love more flavor like this!
@lafilozadeljhonny1977
@lafilozadeljhonny1977 Жыл бұрын
I expect Vicky puts love on South America, I think it is the time where it has been interesting in its military history. There had been wars like The Peru-bolivians against the chilean, the war of the three alliances, but something that I haven't seen is saltpeter as a resource, in that time there was a huge demand for it and it was a very valuable resource.
@DanielFrequency
@DanielFrequency Жыл бұрын
for my opinion this game kinda hard for a newbie, they might not understand about this game. But if they insist to learn they might able to maintain the gameplay. Most people left the game because they keep losing. Gameover doesnt mean you'll lose forever, its part of the game and learning in the same time. for sure this game is addicting once you know the basic.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Definitely! If you need some help, I have a massive tutorial that deals with every part of the game :)
@Luisp1992
@Luisp1992 Жыл бұрын
Vicky2 was pretty hard for a newbie too I watched hours of videos on how to play.
@alessiobenvenuto5159
@alessiobenvenuto5159 Жыл бұрын
Am i the only paradox noob that learned this game pretty quickly? It's way easier than that mess of EU4 for sure
@KVPMD
@KVPMD Жыл бұрын
I started the game, I did 3 starts overall by now (USA, Sweden, Prussia) and all went until now very well. I learned more for sure and my first one (Prussia) for sure is in a way the weakest seeing it's start and run time but still I managed to stay in game easily. Like really with no problem at all. Double radicals then loyals? Still nothing happens. At least for me this game feels quite forgiving and comparing to EU4 where one wrong diplo move or a dead monarch really screws your game this is totally chill. I love the game. The thing is more (I think) that everyone can see EU4 is a deadly beast. You get the feedback and you get it hard. Here... well, you go on and may miss all your goals without really getting what went wrong. Maybe that's an issue for some people?
@chellybub
@chellybub Жыл бұрын
It's way easier than Vicky 2 plus they have an actual tutorial, plus Andy has a really good tutorial rundown. Very good 😊
@bytoadynolastname6149
@bytoadynolastname6149 Жыл бұрын
Counterpoint to the 2025 UI being fixed, the EU4 war results acceptance checkmark is STILL covered by the default ui's gold tooltip. Has been since day 1.
@jean-luclorusso
@jean-luclorusso Жыл бұрын
Might be worth buying in 25 when all the dlcs are on sale.
@Don_Remez
@Don_Remez Жыл бұрын
hate of parts of the fanbase you say.. its not hate, its just criticism for something we pay for, and that part of the fanbase is almost 40 procent apparently
@mazafakabitch1113
@mazafakabitch1113 Жыл бұрын
I think that by 2025, it won't run on almost any computer except the most expensive
@anyoneatall3488
@anyoneatall3488 Жыл бұрын
Why is that?
@brandonbeilbymcleod6546
@brandonbeilbymcleod6546 Жыл бұрын
I remember when $60 used to buy you a finish the game now you spend $60 to get access to an unfinished game wait five years for it to be finished and then spent another $60 with the label of DLC just to have a functional game that you can enjoy for longer than 10 hours
@Old_Ladies
@Old_Ladies Жыл бұрын
Going to cost you a lot more than $60 for this to be a finished game. Probably closer to $200-$300 with the 40 DLC this game will get if it is anything like EU4.
@dennishz9040
@dennishz9040 Жыл бұрын
i mean if you just wait five years you can probably get the whole game with dlc at just 60, not saying it's a good policy but if the game it's not worth it just don't buy it
@brandonbeilbymcleod6546
@brandonbeilbymcleod6546 Жыл бұрын
@@dennishz9040I never buy Paradox games at full price i got CK3 for like $12 EU4 and all dlc for around $25. Hoi4 is the only one I got for full price but i only have 2 dlc both where on sale
@gabrielzinho3230
@gabrielzinho3230 Жыл бұрын
I hope they add the true state flags for Brazil, and the possibility of setting up the Confederation of the Equator, or a victory for the Praieira and other revolts we had in the time frame of the game.
@crassustheelder9665
@crassustheelder9665 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the patched and DLCed Victoria 3 in the years ahead! People tend to forget that our favorite Paradox games had to have a ton of patches and DLCs to be good
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! People don’t remember how different their beloved HOI4 was at launch, or EU4
@090giver090
@090giver090 Жыл бұрын
@@azlanadil3646 Nah... Its launch was as bad as Imperator's. It just looks worse as the amount of hype stirred by PDX before the release.
@geoDB.
@geoDB. Жыл бұрын
I hope it imperators for I hoped Imperator imperatored itself during its launch
@MedjayofFaiyum
@MedjayofFaiyum Жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying the game, only warfare is just hard to figure out
@NoradNoxtus
@NoradNoxtus Жыл бұрын
yeah it's hard because it works off random numbers in the background. especially those smaller battles that happen in the side, pure randomness lol
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
I know, that HAS to be fixed… at least by 2025 ;)
@sandis7674
@sandis7674 Жыл бұрын
don't worry you're not the only one, warfare in this game is basically just luck
@Jiub_SN
@Jiub_SN Жыл бұрын
@@sandis7674 always has been in almost every other game, they just made it for nonww2 larpers
@chellybub
@chellybub Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to see what comes in the DLC. I know you love your mods, but if they had a revolution to cold war mod I'd play that assuming the game has been changed a bit by then. I don't think it will die though, at the very least you and me will be playing it, and all our friends in the discord ;)
@spacehealthcare4998
@spacehealthcare4998 Жыл бұрын
Gonna watch this video in 2025 and hopefully your predictions are correct!
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
I hope so too, see you in the future! :D
@090giver090
@090giver090 Жыл бұрын
I suggest we get back to this video in 2025 and, if Andy's predictions were wrong, making him to do a EU1 stream ;)
@l.s.9095
@l.s.9095 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Vic3 will survive until 2025. In my opinion the gameplay loop is just not interesting enough, to keep you doing it again and again and again. In contrast to EU and HoI IV there are no funny nations to form, no mission trees to do and not enough different gameplay options, to keep somone (or at least myself) engaged. Most nations play very similar and (thanks to the focus on (global) economy) also deal with the same challenges. Building up an effective industry in Texas isn't much different from doing it in Japan. Your essentially playing the game to achieve a particular set of laws at the end (maybe with specific borders), but once you reaced this point, its kind of over as there is not much more to do.) The game also completly fails to recreate the historical, political challenges/ problems, which the different countries faced in this time, which isn't helping to keep things interesting. (For example Nationalism isn't a real threat to the great Empires, European Imperialism is only a minor inconvienance if you play an African nation, the US Civil War is a joke and so is the Qing Opium crisis and so on.) Biggest problem is the AI though. Its an absolute pushover and I doubt they could teach it, to deal with the different systems of the game. (They could of cause do a lot of scripting, but this brings its own downsides.) Other PDX games have similar problems, but at least gameplay is interesting in those ( - rushing the Soviet Union with 20 highly microed tank divisions in HoI IV never gets old for example).
@unnamedshadow1866
@unnamedshadow1866 Жыл бұрын
I think Victoria 3 is much better than Imperator Rome. So i don't think it will massively fail like that. But Vicky has always been a niche game. I don't expect the same level of popularity as CK3 or EU4. I do think Paradox needs to seriously improve their PR. It doesn't matter how open you are, how much Dev Diaries you release, if you take condescending stance to your own fans. It is why Imperator failed. Accept the criticism. But most importantly take it into account for the next game. Nobody wants to wait for patches for the game to be good. The game needs to cater the needs right from the get go. Come on, your own Victoria III is a game based on catering to your populations needs. Use your own game mechanics and apply it to your Company. Right now the conditions of living of the Victoria III fanbase is impoverished. It is up to Paradox to take the game to Middling, Prosperous or Wealthy.
@MedjayofFaiyum
@MedjayofFaiyum Жыл бұрын
I love you took a inspiration on my suggestion ;)
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
I definitely did :D thanks for the tip!
@seba19762
@seba19762 Жыл бұрын
I bet the mayority of those concurrent players of any Paradox games are just trying to figure them out. I know I am.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Haha! So true. If you need help, you can check out my tutorial on this channel :)
@poopsmcgee4693
@poopsmcgee4693 Жыл бұрын
I want to play Vicky 3 but I'm waiting for the dlc that makes it fun
@uglyguyfe
@uglyguyfe Жыл бұрын
Conclusion - don't buy half baked PDX games at launch, wait 3-5 years and if game survives, then you won't be disappointed
@erem49_41
@erem49_41 Жыл бұрын
Hope they make an expansion called “Call for Revolution” in the future
@nsawatchlistbait289
@nsawatchlistbait289 Жыл бұрын
Imagine this map simply ported to Rome Remastered as a mod
@NoeHernandezPe767
@NoeHernandezPe767 Жыл бұрын
The popularity of both EU4 and HOI4 comes from their capability to be played using weird and unique strategies, the gameplay is robust enough to let players experiment and get different results even with the same nation. Victoria 3 (and for that case Imperator) lacks those mechanics that make paradox games replayable and enjoyable, but Victoria 3 has a stronger base game than Ck2 had, so the future sure looks good despite the mixed reviews
@khaizuran100
@khaizuran100 Жыл бұрын
Despite the wonky bugs and some broken mechanics at launch, Victoria 3 is probably the most enjoyable game I have played compare to CK3 and EU4 for me. It feels more satisfying to grow your nation in this game, and once you get over the learning curve, its so exciting to see how much control you can have due to proper economy management and law establishment.
@khaizuran100
@khaizuran100 Жыл бұрын
Plus, the new update on the game balance is very nice and I can see that PDX are going ahead into the right direction on the growth of this game
@RMadaraPlay
@RMadaraPlay Жыл бұрын
I mean it doesn't makes sense the player having total control over the economy, just imagine this happening irl on a country like the usa for example
@JanuszKrysztofiak
@JanuszKrysztofiak Жыл бұрын
It is OK for the initial (read: barebone) version. There are many gaps to fill by DLCs: diplomacy (very limited, you cannot even return territory!), warfare (no real fortifications), economy (effectively centrally planned, even in laissez-faire you have to decide which factories to build and where, the only automation is auto-expand), immersion/events (all countries feel the same) etc..
@Ocean_Man_
@Ocean_Man_ Жыл бұрын
This game just needs warfare rework to be a decant game for now
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
yeah, I think most of us want a warfare rework in one way or another!
@dusankazandzic401
@dusankazandzic401 Жыл бұрын
Its gonna be like Victoria 2,not too unknown but not too popular
@user-cvbnm
@user-cvbnm Жыл бұрын
Vic3 is walking so HOI5 will run
@firehot427
@firehot427 Жыл бұрын
Just wish the battles weren’t rng based with how many troops you get 1-20 and the front didn’t split up as it does now. Also naval invasions are just broken. As the ottomans despite getting my ass handed to my by Egypt on the mainland I just naval invade Cairo and just win regardless
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Yup, agreed, both of these need to be tweaked and fixed fast!
@PillowWillow007
@PillowWillow007 Жыл бұрын
Nostradamus is back!
@christianpeterson4697
@christianpeterson4697 Жыл бұрын
A WW1 dlc would be awesome!
@janmayenese
@janmayenese Жыл бұрын
The difference between Imperator and Vicky3 is that nobody really wanted a sequel to EU:Rome
@sergeantscumbag2116
@sergeantscumbag2116 Жыл бұрын
i dont see it falling flat once they keep it updated
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
me too, I'm excited for the updates that hopefully arrive relatively quick
@martinrosenberger
@martinrosenberger Жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious see people say this things with victoria 2 songs playing in the back
@COH4321
@COH4321 Жыл бұрын
Well hello again mate. Well heres to hoping again ;) But for now im still waiting for updates/DLCs. Take care mate.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Waiting for those updates and DLCs myself! Hope you're doing well :)
@COH4321
@COH4321 Жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake yeah the normal stress of work i guess but all in all everything's fine. Hope you doing well aswell :) It's funny how I'm waiting for some dlc for a game xD man I really hope they use the opportunity. The fundamentals are great (except war and in many cases the ui) xD I mean I really like the goods and pops. Well like I said here's to hoping and also very kind and nice that you remember me and even replied again :) !
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
@@COH4321 Agreed! Of course man, I try to keep up :) here’s to hoping the DLC with deal with warfare or some other integral stuff haha
@dylansloth
@dylansloth Жыл бұрын
They need to make it so there's more diversity with effects of goods you produce and there should be ways to build your economy without having to just increase tools and iron every game. Like if you export enough opium into a country they get an event that leads to opium addiction and stuff like that. Every country has the same build also small countries take half the game to do anything with.
@kcflick6132
@kcflick6132 Жыл бұрын
I play plenty of games where I'm sure I'm the only one playing it
@mcsleazzer
@mcsleazzer Жыл бұрын
Yes! A 1776 mod is the #1 thing I'm looking forward to!
@KlaatuZu
@KlaatuZu Жыл бұрын
Imo the game suffers mostly from a poor UI, which feels cluttered and has many missing features. Another issue common with other recent pdx games is that playthroughs feel very similar, lacking the variety seen in games like EU4 - the combination of national ideas, idea groups and mission trees, makes for very varied campaigns. I don’t want flavour for the sake of flavour, I’d much prefer determinism in said flavour, not just pitiful events.
@ashwest3637
@ashwest3637 Жыл бұрын
their plans for a cold war mod for victoria 3
@triko03
@triko03 Жыл бұрын
I hope that they don't start to create DLCs until the game is solid and the playercounts are stabalized.
@dyne313
@dyne313 Жыл бұрын
The negative reviews are mostly a cordinated campaign by the Victoria 2 players who felt slighted that the game is different than how they wanted it. More like Victoria 2 I guess. Sure the game has a few minor bugs and initial issues. But those will be fixed, even if the game eventually fails. Which I do not believe it will.
@arakui
@arakui Жыл бұрын
LMAOOO
@deodrasshelios7957
@deodrasshelios7957 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if these people defending the game back then are still playing it or not
@dyne313
@dyne313 Жыл бұрын
@@deodrasshelios7957 I still am. I have over 500 hours in Victoria 3.
@whyudodat4344
@whyudodat4344 Жыл бұрын
I love the game but I just can't be bothered to do any war the system to command army's is just to jancky for me
@user-if9vb4gi3l
@user-if9vb4gi3l Жыл бұрын
I wanna system that European powers sending a missionaries to other parts of the world. And by doing so spreading Christianity to asian nations. And forming the Christian political groups in the countries. And if asian nation who pissed of by spreading Christianity in their country will very likely to persecute Christian group. When persecution happens European power's have free CB to invade these nations to 'Protect their missionaries' I wanna such kind of system
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
That sounds awesome! We definitely need much more interactions like these between the great powers and the lesser ones, right now the only such thing is perhaps colonization, but that’s only with completely decentralized powers of course.
@shayanhosseini8429
@shayanhosseini8429 Жыл бұрын
Honestly i dont want a hoi4 war system where i always win againt all odds, where he i have to compensate
@MontyRL
@MontyRL Жыл бұрын
I can see modders adding a March of the Eagles 2 into it. Definitely incoming
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Would love that
@discordiancommunism
@discordiancommunism Жыл бұрын
Extended Timeline
@duphasdan
@duphasdan Жыл бұрын
My problem with Imperator Rome is a play style very different play style too different from past games, and an ignorance of how to play the game. Also, I found the AI to too often magically spawn just the right amount of armies no matter how poor they are. Meanwhile I can't go so much as five feet without my armies being vaporized from attrition alone.
@trancecod
@trancecod Жыл бұрын
I feel dissrespect when they tell us what DLC's will come out even before the game comes out
@eminturksezer9423
@eminturksezer9423 Жыл бұрын
Basically I get the message - wait for 2025 to buy. That's fine for me.
@Poggize
@Poggize Жыл бұрын
What really got me is how much they charged for the game. "Wide as an ocean deep as a puddle". NOT worth the price imo. What was the base price for the other games on release?
@dmiller2036
@dmiller2036 Жыл бұрын
THE GREAT GAME PACK!!!
@kertpilman
@kertpilman Жыл бұрын
I bought the game but havent played yet. I feel like with every Paradox game you have to watch a 100 hours of people playing it before you can try yourself :D
@johnpueblo9813
@johnpueblo9813 Жыл бұрын
1905 Argentina 2°GDP per Capita in the world, Republic. Only 1,5 Million people and leaving to Africa. That doesn't make sense and the game needs serious fixing
@subashchandra9557
@subashchandra9557 Жыл бұрын
HOI let you drag construction up and down. Now we gotta click 20,000 times to move stuff.
@tycoughlin735
@tycoughlin735 Жыл бұрын
Hoi4 didn't let you drag construction or military factories at launch. That's was apart of an update I think around waking the tiger
@masterost1994
@masterost1994 Жыл бұрын
Taking "2 more weeks" posting to a whole other level.
@arakui
@arakui Жыл бұрын
lmao the game didnt even hit 30k today, doa'd as fuck
@pedronabais1456
@pedronabais1456 Жыл бұрын
dude, unless something goes awfully wrong vic3 ownt be abandoned unlike imperator there was alot invested in and paradox would lose so much throwing it out now
@ellidominusser1138
@ellidominusser1138 Жыл бұрын
UI and Warfare are the main issues I have with the game rn
@olavooliveira725
@olavooliveira725 Жыл бұрын
The game is really good, but i wish the tech would be applied to the buildings automatically. And the ia Just gives a piece of the war goal to avoid conflict.
@stgravatt
@stgravatt Жыл бұрын
I dont. That will tank my economy 9 times out of 10
@denzelcounts7036
@denzelcounts7036 Жыл бұрын
The War goal mechanics need to be re-worked. Historically countries would make outraged demands to insure that a war would happen. Here it pretty much does the opposite.
@andreascovano7742
@andreascovano7742 Жыл бұрын
6:30 I'm sorry but no. I cannot take you seriously after this statement. The warfare system is terrible, the Ai is obviously terrible and the whole point is that somehow attacking is always worse number wise than defending, despite having overall a massive number advantage.
@MatthewChenault
@MatthewChenault Жыл бұрын
Civil War DLC when?
@maadhjfk6746
@maadhjfk6746 Жыл бұрын
red ottoman HOW!!
@Skysword455
@Skysword455 Жыл бұрын
it’s a mod, but it’s also surprisingly easy to go in the files and change the RGB value yourself
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
haha I uploaded the mod myself! Look up red ottomans on Steam workshop :)
@ideos8595
@ideos8595 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the opinion that Victoria will be supported for many years. I go to steamdb every day watching statistics. The game still has more players than HoI, the Imperator Rome at that time had around 7,000 players, and the Victoria daily peak has from 28,000 to 40,000. As for the future of the war issue, I think they will not develop tactical but strategic aspects, which I think is a very good decision. I would like them to quickly improve the maps because they are beautiful but very inaccurately made (for example, at that time there was a Kingdom of Poland dependent on Russia on the map, but it did exist. And there's nothing here, it's a big mistake. The Moravian Gate is several hundred kilometers wide!). Similarly, optimizing the game in the late stage of the game is tragic. And the last thing is to update the historical aspect of the game, because now, nothing is happening, and yet this is an era full of international events, not only World War I (Revolutions of 1848, Kulturkampf, tensions (and wars) in international politics in the second half of the 19th century caused by Bismarck's political game, Meji era, etc) However, the game is wonderful, for me one of the best Paradox has released, may it develop well.
@fritzj.pichardomarcano8415
@fritzj.pichardomarcano8415 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the trend of the Victoria 3 player base chart shown at 2:40 looks that good. Definitely it doesn’t have such a dramatic breaking point as Imperator Rome but there is a downward trend just in the few weeks since release. It could be just that there is not enough data yet, but if the trend continues it doesn’t look good.
@jonassavimbi4795
@jonassavimbi4795 Жыл бұрын
Rn Nov 24, sitting at 15k close to 16k.
@ageofwar8442
@ageofwar8442 Жыл бұрын
paradox should combine all game mechanics of all paradox games.Age... but with total war battle mechanics.... start in Bronze age and end in post modern age... epic strategy....
@JohnRandoSmith
@JohnRandoSmith Жыл бұрын
Having multiple good games and decent save converters is better IMO. Otherwise you'd end up with either a very bland game, or a 500gb+ game with weird gameplay & UI complete makeovers happening at various times of the playthough.
@bogda1917
@bogda1917 Жыл бұрын
It is just sad to purchase a much anticipated game and notice it lacks so many basic features. I mean, not few of these are features that its predecessor and older PDX ganes already had...
@Jack_804
@Jack_804 Жыл бұрын
One proud Bavarian said and it's true, this game is unimpolished gem
@RMadaraPlay
@RMadaraPlay Жыл бұрын
So an unfinished game? Why didn't they release as beta or alpha if that's true?
@Jack_804
@Jack_804 Жыл бұрын
@@RMadaraPlay Cause Paradox always do that, they launch the game unfinished just so they can add new features with paid dlc's. Unfortunately that's what they do. Just remember CK3 when it came out, a good game with good mechanics but clearly unfinished.
@JocoBreRbC
@JocoBreRbC Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see paradox put their all into this game, it's super fun even in it's current state, which is kind of a buggy mess tbh..
@bruh-th5ft
@bruh-th5ft Жыл бұрын
Personally i don't see why anyone should hate this game, every game has a period of bugs and poor balancing to its path to success. League, cod anything like that developed for decades. Back to Victoria 3, they introduced features not included in victoria 2, both players and devs need time to adopt and improve. For me personally, i enjoy most bit of victoria 3 dominating the world market with my favourite country france even i played like shit, building random stuffs everywhere and lost a war to the US. However every loses i took, i learnt. Now its my fifth run trying to form germany as austria, i hope it works this time. In conclusion, give the game some time
@kevincowling7730
@kevincowling7730 Жыл бұрын
Let us form the Imperial Federation, the game is called Victoria, they need some more British/ Commonwealth focus, #legacyof1812, #Imperialfederation, #gunboatdiplomacy
@thomasfrn4831
@thomasfrn4831 Жыл бұрын
more granuarity is alos needed, I hate that everyhting is state-based and you cannot acutally interact at all with the provinces
@sandis7674
@sandis7674 Жыл бұрын
i just hope they completely rework the warfare and at least change the system similar like hoi4 warfare type, also maybe try to improve the ui ? i'm having hard time to find which my province that has too many unemployment
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
I also want the warfare to be more like HOI4, at least in certain aspects. More interaction is better in my view.
@VonSteiner1
@VonSteiner1 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they announced they will never revert the changes to the war system. It would be far too embarrassing for them.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
@@VonSteiner1 Yeah it is unfortunate indeed. I just think they need to swallow that potential embarrassment honestly, but actually, I don't think the community or anyone would be anything but happy. While the fans are spiteful when they don't get things they want, I think they tend to be nothing but happy once they actually get it. At any rate, we'll see what happens.
@scuzzy2142
@scuzzy2142 6 ай бұрын
Really want a Texas Flavor pack.
@jackt4595
@jackt4595 Жыл бұрын
To sum up.Dont buy the game rn as it has a lot of errors,lack of many quality of life stuff.Wait until some of the stuff is patch up or even wait until the first DLC is dropped,then you should play VIC3 ,at least in my oppinion
@Kalleosini
@Kalleosini Жыл бұрын
but why do paradox keep releasing half baked games. hoi4, imperator, vicky3. why do we have to buy the beta-test only to then buy the next 3 years worth of DLC to complete the game? I completely ignore the journal because it seems like it doesn't effect anything anyway, so why is it there?
@Kronos_LordofTitans
@Kronos_LordofTitans Жыл бұрын
Because what we view as a fully baked game is a game with a few years of dlc. We are pretty much paying for what we get. A base game with a price tag of well over 100 euros is something nobody is going to buy. Eu4 with all its dlc and the profit margin removed would still be over 200 euros.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Because these games’ “base” version offer so much more than other games out there. Sure there are bugs and I believe we should not have the amount of bugs or imbalance/lack of information that we have, but the amount of content, variety, choice, depth, replayability, these are arguably miles above what other strategy games offer at launch. Paradox also provides massive free updates throughout the lifecycle, while also paying for the production and upkeep of making these games better by selling DLC and expansions over the years. Much better than just leaving a non-buggy base version of the game out, and then continue to the next game in my opinion :)
@Kalleosini
@Kalleosini Жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake I don't know man, plenty of games in the past have been released in a mostly finished condition, received a some minor tweaks and patches and one maybe two expansions at most and still lived just fine for a decade. quality will speak for itself.
@CreamTheEverythingFixer
@CreamTheEverythingFixer Жыл бұрын
@@Kalleosini Vicky 2 comes to mind on that front, only two proper much needed DLC's.
@DontKnow-hr5my
@DontKnow-hr5my Жыл бұрын
The War aspect is so hilariously bad in being transparent. You have no clue what actually wins you battles and what does not, there is some weird terrain width going on which makes it so that on a 400k vs 400k front you sometimes have only fighting 20k men max for the entire war, big battles never seem to happen and the attrition is so high, i doubt they had that many dead from attrition in WW1 as you bleed in this game once you reach that age.
@artem_yo312
@artem_yo312 Жыл бұрын
Video summarized: "This was a good start. Then they are going to finish the game and add content. And there will be mods." Yeah, great content! Very entertaining and not obvious at all.
@roupiozclement3501
@roupiozclement3501 Жыл бұрын
I've try like 5 times to play Imperator. But sorry, this game was BAD on release. If player left the game, it's because Imperator is broken. They're fault.
@keizervanenerc5180
@keizervanenerc5180 Жыл бұрын
In my eyes the fact that mods right now are mostly UI, flavor and fixes is an increadibly bad sign. More of a focus on fixing the broken and barren state of the game, than expending on a solid foundation. It's the "Empire Total War" of Paradox games when it comes to mods right now. Hyped yet rotten to its core. I just hope more and more people will realise this and move on from it.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s a bad sign, I think it’s natural. The smaller mods are always made first - the grand overhauls we now see in games like CK3 did not just happen right after launch, they took months and years. I’m sure they will come :)
@gmaillastname8591
@gmaillastname8591 Жыл бұрын
Paradox's thickheaded attitude towards their half baked and frankly boring war system does not bode well for the franchise. I don't care how many interesting plot lines they add to countries if you suck out the most dynamic part of this historical timeline. I did not buy this game for this specific lack of feature, and I find my decision substantiated by the developers pigheaded comments post launch. I just hope it does not kill the franchise going forward, because this period in time is fascinating but for the reason the developers have made a conscious effort to turn their noses up.
@speerie736
@speerie736 Жыл бұрын
Just pirate it.
@Hatsuzu
@Hatsuzu Жыл бұрын
It shouldn't survive.
@konfuchie357
@konfuchie357 Жыл бұрын
OK, milking the views with speculation. Moving on...
@erdemsekerpare
@erdemsekerpare Жыл бұрын
Problem is that with paradox is, some reason they hate eu4 Dude eu4 is actually a masterpiece why not using its success method? Why going new systems? I dont even know how hard to make a proper basic no clue dumb tutorials for their games? This is main reason they lose players. They get players when youtubers plays and proper tutorials for newbies.
@anyoneatall3488
@anyoneatall3488 Жыл бұрын
Where are you getting this idea that they haye eu4?
@StreetSoulLover
@StreetSoulLover Жыл бұрын
I actually thought you were going to sim the game from 1836 - 2025 and show us some crazy world...I'm kinda disappointed!
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Haha! That would be something. Perhaps one day ;)
@Secretsofsociety
@Secretsofsociety Жыл бұрын
Why are people such cry babies about games? This game is fun and they will support it adding and rebalancing. I kind of overplayed the game the first week so I'm waiting for some patches. Don't want to burn myself out too much before it gets better. I think the game is worth the money as is though. And I already got more hours than most. The late game can use some work because it gets a bit easy by that point. Anyways the game won't be dead because its not primarily multiplayer.
@eightyfiv32
@eightyfiv32 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a broken game, vic 2 is still much better
@HistoryTeacherSteve
@HistoryTeacherSteve Жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂
@feo130
@feo130 Жыл бұрын
Stop pretending boring "games" are fun. It's trash, like every single nonsense spreadsheet software Paradox has made. The fact that they are charging money for this is laughable.
@anyoneatall3488
@anyoneatall3488 Жыл бұрын
Why are you watching this channel if you dislike paradox games?
@AvidanTheExpositor
@AvidanTheExpositor Жыл бұрын
Ive never seen a channel so desperate to repair the reputation of the company for which they shill.
@BringbackgAmberleafns
@BringbackgAmberleafns Жыл бұрын
paradox 's reputation is fine, it doesnt need repaired.
@whoisjoe5610
@whoisjoe5610 Жыл бұрын
Map game players after hearing someone with a different opinion:
@remipoujoulat7759
@remipoujoulat7759 Жыл бұрын
This game is very good, it's you that comes and just try to ruin things.🤷🏻‍♂️
@pradyumnabanerjee3333
@pradyumnabanerjee3333 Жыл бұрын
@@remipoujoulat7759 not really
@AndysTake
@AndysTake Жыл бұрын
Victoria 3 hater can understand others liking the game challenge (impossible) It’s so funny how everyone that hates Victoria 3 because it’s not Victoria 2 believes I MUST be getting paid for this
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