The Void Keyboard Does Everything Right

[@xkingmarti]

woah sir this is definitely the endgame of all time sir

[@kename1280]

Lots of endgame sor

[@gregory_p]

woah sir that is a big deck sir

[@gameranters]

Definitely endgame…till something else comes out

[@robr640]

Call me crusty all you want, I'll never stop loving a good well done top mount board! Awesome video man!

[@AndyVNguyen]

My Eros top mount with diamond polished mx blacks is very nice and satisfies that itch for me. Too bad we could not get that to gb

[@Anorexus.design]

Thank you for the review Andy! I really appreciate your honest review on this video as it will be valuable for the community before joining the GB I just read all the comments and I will take any feedback for future improvement especially for the upcoming project Would love to work together again for review on future projects! *regarding PC case, yes we planned to add inserts for better longetivity!

[@prestonvarner611]

i like may others when i first got into the hobby. just slammed the boards with foam, thocc crap. and just kept doing that over and over. finally got some nicer boards and realized every board i had sounded and felt the same. transitioned into the no foam. 1.6mm pcb top mount. oh man its so nice.

[@lenguyenquangvinh2684]

So did I. I know people have preferences. But I just absolutely despise any keyboard sound test that stuff the pe foam in. All I hear is foam. I want to gear the combo of switches and case design.

[@AndyVNguyen]

1.6mm pcb is the bare minimum for me. need that full sound!

[@riceshakes]

I'd totally buy this if I wasn't invested in my 910. You're entirely right, the 910 needs the SS or copper back weight and that was an extra 100ish. Then add the pp plate for 30ish and it's already $830 assuming you got it retail like I did. Love the end result but if this board is even 90% of that for almost half the price, it's a no brainer purchase for someone looking for a high end top mount 65%. Now if only they'd add threaded inserts for the PC version...

[@AndyVNguyen]

Dang didn’t know it added up to so much. I really considered it if I could get it in red. I think they added threaded inserts for pc based on geekhack.

[@riceshakes]

@@AndyVNguyen oooh I need to get a PC one then. Need a base board for X-ray keycaps. Love the honest reviews on this channel compared to the other keyboard channels out there currently that do more marketing than reviews.

[@AndyVNguyen]

thanks for actually watching through the content! most people watch a few seconds or just look at the title and think i'm shilling every single thing. I'm just more thorough and nuanced with my critiques lol.

[@AndyVNguyen]

Update: Checked and they're just CONSIDERING it

[@AndyVNguyen]

Update update someone confirmed they’re adding fit

[@AquaPeet]

I somehow always end up with an Akko Piano Pro under my spacebar! It's just not too loud, no bottoming out of stabs horrors, a short travel.... so nice. 6 of my 7 boards have it.

[@silentKeys20]

Another day, another endgame. I wonder why game isn't ending yet..

[@AndyVNguyen]

The game ends when your mind wills it so

[@iDislikeEditThanksForTheLikes]

because of NG+ 🤣

[@xJeremypspx]

The real endgame were the friends you made along the way

[@AndyVNguyen]

My friends all left the hobby lmaoooo

[@Upgrayedddd]

What game?! He got played. That's a regular keyboard. All that money and all it does is type like any other $30 keyboard

[@GorKeys]

I agree with less plate material on space bar sounds better. Just like the kohaku.

[@AndyVNguyen]

Thanks for confirming!

[@HubertTheMad]

I'm a fan of this designer since he's Indonesian! Looking forward to the 60% offerings in the future, but hope this does well of course

[@AndyVNguyen]

Oh man this in a 60 would hit.. really hard

[@ucminh7559]

@@AndyVNguyen if the 60% version come out, it does remind me a lot of Midway60 with that dayum cherry lips!!

[@ImOnMy116]

@@AndyVNguyenKeebscape’s recent IC for the Solaris looks like it could fit that niche. I’m very interested (as I’m now a diehard 60s guy). It supports top mount and O ring, and will be in stock (targeting a $350 price point). I’ve got quite a few gummy o ring mount 60s, but I don’t have any top mount 60s

[@AndyVNguyen]

who's going to run it? these days it needs to go to a reliable vendor or else it's a huge YMMV

[@ImOnMy116]

@@AndyVNguyenfor sure! Looks like Unikeys will be the main vendor, with the potential for other regional vendors

[@MrTeal888]

Endgame you can and should buy, HHKB Type S

[@AndyVNguyen]

The topre gang is here

[@MrTeal888]

@@AndyVNguyenI only have 2 😬

[@kename1280]

@@MrTeal888i have 4

[@ryelo5448]

I bought the transition tkl lite despite having expensive boards bc i wanted a pc board, and when i found out it had top mount now i tried it out and fell in love with the sound. Top mount is nice when done right, and considering how good it sounds on a 55 dollar board, i cant imagine it on an expensibe board around it

[@wandervibe]

curious if the PC with copper is worth it.

[@AndyVNguyen]

I’d say yes. Pc and alu like the pc bauer 2 is so light and feels flimsy.

[@acabreros]

Great video. As someone who has a mix of 65's (Forever65, TGR 910 ME V2, Typ65+, Neo65, QK65 V2 Classic, TX-65 PC and a Zoom65 V1), I could see my self adding this to my collection. Though I am still looking for a great deal on a smoke or imperial red Kohaku. :-) Oh, BTW. Spot on about Mode. I have nothing against them but Mode has a cult following and they talk like it's the best keyboard manufacturer/studio around. LOL They just aiiight.

[@ammaramgad3094]

@acabreros Heey nice 65 collection! I am actually looking for my first 65, would you mind giving me your thoughts about the neo65 vs qk65v2 vs envoy? They are all in stock and I am looking for something that sounds bright without the foam. I could also go for the this void but I don’t see myself waiting for 6 months haha Anyways will appreciate your help!

[@flylowe46m38]

I live mode I’m new though but I’m not a fan of satiating months for a ground buy and with the risks that come with

[@arpeykeys]

did you have it in top mount at keeblife? I didn't even realize top mount was an option and honestly felt disappointed by the sound and feel cuz it was a board I was considering. but if it was top mount that really explains it lol. Ended up joining the paper80 after trying yours out though!

[@AndyVNguyen]

Yes it was in top mount at KL. This comment is exactly what I was referring to in the video lol. If you’re expecting or want gasket sound/feel then top mount won’t do it. You’re gonna love the paper80!

[@arpeykeys]

@@AndyVNguyen I might still get it for the o-ring. I always liked the feel of o-rings at meetups but never owned one yet. I figure that's not stiff feeling in comparison to top mount?

[@AndyVNguyen]

the o ring feel is super nice. it has a little more give. and the alphas sound very nice! all i can really show you in video is when i press down with all fingers at the end of sound tests

[@jdstrebs]

I really like this board, would cop if they could take out that left window key and do a similar layout to the baur

[@AndyVNguyen]

Symmetrical wkl is very nice and rare to see

[@TypingOasis-ASMR]

It's really perfect...

[@TW2LV2]

Top mount/o-ring when executed within a good case design is king! I do prefer gasket mount for being able to mod, but the new school stuff seems so boring to me now

[@AndyVNguyen]

what can you mod about gasket that you can't mod with top mount?

[@vpfxms313]

This review said it all. Gold Andy is always doing Andy.

[@AndyVNguyen]

Thank you! I tried to cover most angles.

[@WTFA54]

shit am i ancient and crusty in the hobby because top mount TKLs are still my favorite?

[@shiningyrlife]

Nah u aint. Top mount tkl is goat

[@AndyVNguyen]

Yes, with the rest of us

[@93ksj]

Stop it Andy, you're gonna revive my damn addiction

[@AndyVNguyen]

sorry manggg

[@adamchang455]

If you could only have either this or the forever (if they do a rerun) which one would you pick? I know one is gasket and one is top, but can only afford one or the other. I do like the top right blocker of forever, just something to make the keyboard stand out but the spacebar is too clean in the void

[@AndyVNguyen]

I like the aesthetic of this one way more and the assembly is easier. But forever gasket is very nice. So whichever you value more

[@SuperKMao]

Top right blocker vs no blocker is very different aesthetically Toblerone weight and back plate vs very minimalist outward appearing internal weight Forever spacebar wasn't great and I had to tinker quite a lot to get it to sound right. But I don't think you can go wrong with either.

[@jiaweikbd]

Andy dropping another banger

[@AndyVNguyen]

bang all day

[@okamisamakun]

06:14 yooo pause 🤣🤣🤣

[@ikaros4203]

My old $400 WASD CODE from 2016 is all I’ve needed, love the custom caps & the clicky cherry blues still make my whole room echo lol :) An endgame is what you make it, always relative.

[@AndyVNguyen]

Definitely, if you're happy, it's endgame

[@JB-ol3xo]

*Kind of starts at $280.... lol. Even at the price optioned the way most would want it it's not a deal. Just seems a bit scummy that they lock the weight(s) behind a big upcharge. Had a bit of a laugh at the fact that they're adding a $1 upcharge for a POM plate. Also +1 for the Cream Soda on CF, just built the Geass60 Revival with the same specs and its lovely.

[@elmersrep1525]

how is it locking behind an upcharge? it just flat out is more expensive since its copper and ss

[@AndyVNguyen]

Yeah I originally thought the main photo was $280 I was like that’s crazy!

[@KenzoPS103]

6:15 clean backshots dont exist only messy ones

[@AndyVNguyen]

:o

[@wayne0320]

Tempting but bought 6 boards so far this year...

[@AndyVNguyen]

Jeez that’s almost one a month!

[@HonestAccountant]

As a person below the age of 18, I can confirm I am a crusty old top-mount enjoyer, jokes aside, Andy vids are always engaging, your editing and personal charisma make your vids both entertaining and calming. Keep it up and have a good one ❤️

[@AndyVNguyen]

Thank you Accountant! I used to worry that I don’t smile enough but that’s just my style and how I present things. I don’t exude fake enthusiasm or anything at all

[@SevericK_BooM]

I’m so tired of gatekept kohaku. Make it a GB. Open it up. So annoying.

[@vucanes]

Rubrehaku is essentially an open GB. You just have to join the GB for GMK rubrerose

[@SuperKMao]

Why is it gatekept? Just because you can't get one? That's not what that word means.

[@phuongtrang280]

@@incongruous4exactly this! It’s always the same people that win that “raffle”

[@AndyVNguyen]

have you considered they didn't post wtb but just bought from others?

[@AndyVNguyen]

i want to hear your thoughts on whether or not the moon landing was real

[@kaeroseon]

It’s like a TGR but executed better, tgr bump on cut weight, toblerone, all that’s missing is a little 910 blocker and I’d think it’s a 910 v2. Also, will you check out the divinikey tess65?

[@AndyVNguyen]

I think the 910 font is one of the least attractive blockers lol. GSK is worse and worse than that would be Chimera. I think I’m on the list for Tess!

[@kaeroseon]

@AndyVNguyen Excites to see the Tess! I don't mind the 910 blocker but with how similar the design highlight points are it would be funny to have a 910 blocker to go with the shiny candy bar and the TGR cut weight

[@AndyVNguyen]

tess price point is NUTS.

[@kaeroseon]

@@AndyVNguyen That badge blocker is smexy as hell

[@FeFeMiMi82]

Greetings Andy...any top good Recommendations for the LOUDEST CLACKY Monster Keyboard, especially those on super high pitch with carbon fiber plate.....I got mode envoy, Neo 75 & QK65..but searching the Best Sounding ones....Thank You

[@Malakingchickenadobo]

can you make a review on the sin65 if its possible pls, a 1yr old board but Im kinda intrigued on what you think on that one hehe

[@shylocutus]

i have a forever65 and a 910 me v2 with copper backplate from hype. i can skip this correct?

[@AndyVNguyen]

I would skip yes. You already put some fat stacks into the 910 me.

[@jeronwong8147]

how do u think this compares to the Dune 65? I am so biased towards this board (cos u said it’s good LOL) but the blockers on the dune are just 😍😍😍😍. Both are around the same price shipped to singapore too

[@tylerolinde]

I appreciate the craftmanship of keyboards in this tier. However the I feel the aesthetics of the back profile are kinda wasted since 98% of the time you are looking top-down or displaying caps forward on a stand. I'm all for a good weight that functions as the "bottom" but I'd like to see details on the "visible" side - as in front or top facing...maybe side - something akin to the Luminkey 65 with subtle details, maybe a badge, maybe an optional light indicator/diffuser. Again this is a beautiful keyboard and definitely eyeing the PC. Also thanks @andyvnguyen for the S+ Tier reviews.

[@AndyVNguyen]

Definitely valid commentary. It’s why it appeals to the old school enthusiast. Minimal design. The current trends have super fancy designs. I actually enjoy the paper80 design the most lol. I can see cool stuff from every angle.

[@tt__shin]

ive never gotten anything other than cheap keyboards, and this might change it

[@sixxtylol]

that was me, too but i was like i can skip out on a few cheaper boards and just get one more expensive board that might have a lil more character etc

[@WindowCreep808]

man if this was a 60% && HHKB layout it would be a winner... esp that cherry lip paired with an alu plate, some mx blacks or nixies.

[@AndyVNguyen]

i feel like there was a brass weight hhkb 60 that ppl slept on bc it was hhkb. a while back. sounded super thocky

[@WindowCreep808]

@@AndyVNguyen what was it, if you can recall?

[@AndyVNguyen]

gaff60

[@iLuvCats]

I really liked the way you approached this review. Thank you.

[@AndyVNguyen]

Glad you enjoyed the nuance. A lot of comments are just cherry picking single things I’ve said lmao

[@iLuvCats]

@@AndyVNguyenthe hobby seems to be very polarized lately. Thanks for the honesty and transparency

[@AndyVNguyen]

there's less and less to complain about for most keyboards tbh lol. they're too good now so people need to find things to argue about

[@Rankhole123]

Great keyboard, however I must say I do prefer thoccier keyboards. I just got the prebuild "Nada 65" from Cerakey, it's insane - made from ceramic, even the keycaps. It's so creamy + deeply thoccy, yet not very loud. One of my absolute favorites ever. Did I mention it only costs like 159$?

[@AndyVNguyen]

That’s pretty cool, glad you’re happy with it. I haven’t tried ceramic keycaps yet

[@bluntkrayon]

Need more budget cherry lip boards. This is nice but still too exxy for me.

[@AndyVNguyen]

Yeah the price hurts me a little bit :(

[@kevinpatel4873]

How many layers of your thin tape do you use to force break?

[@AndyVNguyen]

1

[@erikgrossman]

This is a forever keeb

[@DvineDragoon]

ironic because I would rather get a forever65 haha

[@NiSE_Rafter]

"Back in the day" = 3 years ago??? I must be old because I was thinking back before any of this modern niche switch gasket whatever stuff, back when Cherry MX and either full size or TKL were the go to and some people were still putting o-rings on their keycap stems. (So like 10 years ago)

[@AndyVNguyen]

You win

[@NiSE_Rafter]

@@AndyVNguyen No, I'm Nguyen 🤣 (I really am a fellow Nguyen)

[@AndyVNguyen]

nguyen dynasty leggo dont remind me about o rings on stems. that was a dark period

[@mangoexpert1994]

is the coated white like a pure white or more of a creamy/beige white?

[@AndyVNguyen]

slightly creamy not beige

[@BeyondJo]

so hows the coating? maybe comapred to matrix or TKD? is it worth to add more 30$?

[@AndyVNguyen]

I wouldn’t go for coating for $30, I like smooth

[@JesusXina]

the cherry lipppppppp

[@AndyVNguyen]

It’s naisss

[@yourhomiesushi]

Very mindful review. Very demure review.

[@AndyVNguyen]

AAAAAAAA

[@Misfirem]

wtf this is nice as hell

[@SuperKMao]

Sick board bro

[@Babigoldfish]

Space cut out is it. I saw a streamer did it, then I cut the space out on my pp plate and the spacebar went 2x louder. This could be the reason why kohaku basic ass design have such a bomb spacebar

[@Anorexus.design]

@@Babigoldfish 😉

[@tangyimin9188]

Great video - any idea if the PC case will come with threaded inserts?

[@AndyVNguyen]

i thought they confirmed it but they're considering it per the geekhack

[@tangyimin9188]

@@AndyVNguyen Did more digging, they did confirm it!

[@AndyVNguyen]

Sick!

[@MrSkullhead0]

I got a Private GB top mount 65 called the Khora by Flybeck coming in shortly. (You can see it on his IG not sponsored). I am so hyped to try a top mount 65 that won’t be as expensive as the 910 and GSK’s of the world. If I didn’t have this coming in, I probably would have yoinked this Void so fast because I’ve been yearning for a small layout top mount! Nice build ya did!

[@kirararahey6577]

This or dune 65? Im kinda liking the dune a lotttt with sound and design. Plus you get wkl which i lovee

[@AndyVNguyen]

If you like the sound and design of dune then go for that!

[@kirararahey6577]

@@AndyVNguyen do you have much experience with fully copper bottom keyboards? I was wondering if it would be clackier or better than brass acoustically?

[@AndyVNguyen]

no. i remember seeing full brass and it sounded horrible. brass bottom bauer is also not as good sounding as alu. it pings a little harder. given the choice, i wouldn't do a full copper bottom. a weight is fine though

[@hotdori1]

PC or PP plate with Top mount, would it be good?

[@AndyVNguyen]

I'd prefer PP top

[@jiwany]

sorry but how is this more accessible than other group buys? just not sold out as quickly?

[@AndyVNguyen]

moreso this design is very similar to like TGR 910 type boards which end up being raffles.

[@the-juan-above-all]

Whoa flattered you used my Picture for the Haus. Did you get from IG or Reddit?

[@AndyVNguyen]

I googled so it probably came from Reddit, want me to link your IG in desc? Just reply with the user

[@the-juan-above-all]

@@AndyVNguyen @the.ch0sen.juan

[@AndyVNguyen]

it's added to the description!

[@the-juan-above-all]

@@AndyVNguyen thank you

[@MrTeal888]

Wait, no inverted space bar? 😁

[@AndyVNguyen]

it def cheats the front height a little lmao

[@IIIdarksaberIII]

PC+copper or Alu+copper?

[@AndyVNguyen]

I prefer alu case sounds these days, after being a long term owner of a polycarbonate kohaku

[@ethanjiang943]

Could you give your opinion on the gmmk 3 leaks?

[@kaeroseon]

its a leak what opinion can he even have

[@cangnguyen8072]

Do you have any suggestion for 75%?

[@francois.m]

Cyberboard.

[@AndyVNguyen]

Secondhand tgr tomo for cheap

[@RandomKeebs]

Mannnn making me want the E-white instead of the polycarbonate one I got 😂 maybe click clack will let me change my order.

[@SuperKMao]

Trade you for PC

[@RandomKeebs]

@@SuperKMao sure hmu when you receive yours 😂

[@kylenoowin]

How was the lobster fest?? XD

[@Dubulcle]

Not even hall effect LMAOOOOO

[@AndyVNguyen]

I suck at games too much to need HE lmaooo

[@samdeur]

Front hight is to much bro

[@AndyVNguyen]

Cherry lip is the hack

[@Liza.Wharton]

side profile design looks tacky

[@AndyVNguyen]

def a personal preference for sure

[@jackheng9712]

andy everytime u speak about flex cuts and 1.2mm pcbs it hurts a little for me because they're my first purchase ever in the hobby :')

[@AndyVNguyen]

Do you still like 1.2mm and flex cut now tho? Lol

[@jackheng9712]

@@AndyVNguyen not anymore ... haha i keep trying to mod by the cuts and stuff to make it sound as good as possible with mx browns on alu. any tips on making it sound better? :')

[@AndyVNguyen]

tape over the flex cuts

[@rayu7191]

Its not endgame if its not HE

[@lukast2784]

$280 is accessible to all?

[@AndyVNguyen]

Figuratively..

[@jalexanderc]

Bass weights less goooo

[@AndyVNguyen]

Bass weight shops let’s go

[@aj4123]

the brand of the board sounds like an eating disorder

[@Anorexus.design]

🤣🤣🤣 damn bruh

[@Juno6868]

if everybody can buy it then it's not endgame HAHA

[@AndyVNguyen]

Def has some merit, collectibility

[@TarisKit]

Void 65 or mode 65 better?

[@nac5605]

Every keyboard this guy reviews is supposedly "endgame". The term is starting to lose its meaning.

[@kaeroseon]

I mean, has endgame ever had a meaning? isnt endgame relative to each person's journey in the hobby? its a group buy board, that has good quality and design, and looks special enough to be someone's main keyboard after its built, then I think it should be able to be called endgame. He does overuse the term but I think its an easy way to say its a truely impressive product that he would keep.

[@SuperKMao]

@@incongruous4 Pretty sure he says in the majority of his videos: "You don't need to buy this if you already have a board you are happy with" - he's like the opposite of a car salesman. I did the favor of objectively looking at the data for you. Of his last 45 videos, only 4 have the word endgame in them and only 2 were actually saying the board was endgame - they other two were in reference to what others think about it and his assessment.

[@AndyVNguyen]

It never had any meaning. I use it in the title sometimes but I have my reasons. This one is the most stereotypical endgame type of keyboard. And anyone can get in the group buy. That is it. I wouldn’t call a light all alu board endgame. I wouldn’t call a thin sounding board endgame. Even my personal favorite rgb board, paper80, I didn’t use endgame.

[@AndyVNguyen]

your brain works in wondrous ways

[@AndyVNguyen]

it is abundantly clear you don't understand my videos and you just happen to be here to rant

[@TrevorBronowicki]

Gib

[@DimasAjieFachrudin]

I wanna say this from a long time. ADA INDONESIA COOOYYYYY

[@ulqi]

is it endgame if it looks like shit tho

[@kaeroseon]

preference. I like the design.

[@SuperKMao]

Genuinely curious what you would consider a good looking board if this isn't it.

[@ulqi]

​@@SuperKMao my favourite designers are baion, merisi, yuktsi, elaine and lin works. also like some cherry-picked stuff from ai03, jjw and keycult (even tho I hate keycult as a company in general)

[@SuperKMao]

@@ulqi thanks. That's a helpful start but all these designers have made many boards. I wanted to know which boards you specifically enjoyed. This is a huge variety of different aesthetics. Merisi is super simple and understated. Lin works can be crazy.

[@ulqi]

@@SuperKMao That comment started as a joke but if you wanna get into that, I guess we can talk about it. English is not my first language so excuse my grammar. My favourite board of all time is the jane v2 (and CE with backplate swapped because I hate the carbon fiber, I have a forged carbon one on mine and it looks really good!), but I also love the 910 gaf and gsk from yuktsi. Alice and 910/CE looks good from the front but I don't really like the back design (or rather, it has nothing special and is quite boring). Everything about the jane v2 is what I like, angle radius, side profile, bezel size, backplate design (dual tone on the v2 is gorgeos), toblerone weight and everything. I hate what they did on the ME tho. Long rubber feet ruins the aesthetic of the backplate, and I don't like the fact that it's screwless. The worst thing of all is the way the backplate is mounted, with the little gap to put the tool under. Overall, yuktsi design are most of the time at least good and sometimes just brilliant to me. Not a fan of the Tomo and Lena tho. For the 910/CE, top-right blocker is awesome but I'm not sure if yuktsi was the first one to do it so I won't give them credit for it just in case. Top-right blocker boards are my favourite 65%, with the Kyuu, Tsukuyomi and Haus beig my favourite. Unfortunately, Kyuu is overall quite a bad sounding board even tho it looks gorgeous, and Tsukuyomi and Haus' back looks boring as hell. From merisi, what I like in the sessantacinque/ottanquatro/dodici is the backplate design, the double chamfer is absolutely gorgeous, the logo is good looking and the brushed alu finish looks very nice. Side and front profile is also perfect to me, even tho it could be considered very classic. Baion experiments a lot with finishes and stuff, and is doing quite refreshing things. The OBJ1 and EX.23 looks insane, the finishes are very pretty and I like that they're trying something new because I'm starting to get tired of regular ano and cerakoting. Bias is also quite cool although very classic in it's design. I don't really like any other board they did. I like the kohaku and korn from elaine (tho idk how much yuktsi contributed in the korn, prob backplate design), haku has a beautiful backweight with glass and the way the fish has accents is very cool. I'm usually not a fan of thick bezels but somehome like it on that one. Unikorn is also, to me, almost perfect in it's design if it wasn't for the big UNIKORN logo on the side. Backplate looks like jane v2 so obviously I'm a big fan, the unicorn looks good, and the front and side of the board are once again just what I like. Plain, simple and nicely chose bezel width and angle radius. I absolutely love the Dolphin and EM8 from Linworks, even tho I'm usually not a fan of crazy looking boards like that. The curves are insane and I would love to put one of that thing on my desk. Back design is quite bad unfortunately, but I guess you're not buying these for the back. As you can see I love simple and sleek design most the time, and that's the reason I don't like the void. It's design philosophy reminds me of gamery kind of patterns, some sort of futuristic curves on the backplate and weight, dual tone on the board andy has doesn't look right, side profile is awful, and I'm not a fan of front lip but that's just personal (and the only thing I don't like about the jjw derivative as well, otherwhise wonderful board). Don't get me wrong, it seems like it's a wonderful board for the price, but to me that design is just a no-go and nothing I call endgame, you could've told me it was a new Neo board that I would've believe you.

[@snap8386]

Nope

[@johanb.7869]

And they say clicky is loud🤨 Hollow? Tape mod or car dampening foam. Problem solved😎

[@ezpeezee5368]

end game ? na pass.. not good keyboard size for gaming.,

[@AndyVNguyen]

What’s your size for gaming, 60?

[@ezpeezee5368]

@@AndyVNguyen 75% or tkl , the console and f1 keys is important. Depends on game.

[@AndyVNguyen]

def. i can usually map something for console but layering f keys sucks lol.