Anesthesiologist QUITS! Another Doctor!? | Dr. Kristina Braly Reaction

[@kristinabraly]

This was such a lovely surprise, and such a joy to watch - your insight and experience in this is so valuable and I really appreciated your thoughts and putting into words things I felt like I couldn't say well. And yes you're right 100% it's the non-clinical aspects (politics, bureaucracy, administration, etc) that contributed to my moral injury (burnout). Stepping back is so helpful to refresh the mind, the spirit, and retain your passion for medicine. Thanks again for this video. Let's collab sometime!

[@anaos1004]

Love your channel, Kristina! I’m actually a non-US IMG getting ready to apply for neuro. But the takeaway from this video for me was that medicine doesn’t have to define me and that all my other passions and projects in life can come true if I just learn to organize my time. And that by having “more than one job” can make me happier overall knowing that one job will give me the joy that the other doesn’t. You’re such an inspiration to me and I love following your channel 🥰

[@kevinjubbalmd]

Congrats Kristina and would love to collab =)

[@SaudiUFC]

For anyone who watch this and started thinking about leaving medicine, keep in mind that most of those doctors are already entrepreneurs and already have ongoing business. Everyone has his unique pros and cons that don’t match to everyone

[@bernnyfelix7565]

@@davidi5803 exactly. Plus most of these people already worked 10+ years and have enough money saved up, no debt, probably paid off house. Once you have all of those bases covered, you can definitely quit. Additionally, some people never got into medicine because they really wanted it; they did because of the status and money. Not that this is the case, but always keep that in mind. Best thing is to get off KZbin and pursue whatever you want to do.

[@xplicitgoofy1015]

@@bernnyfelix7565not only that her husband is literally an orthopedic surgeon so I’m sure they are doing just fine

[@Medi232-g1x]

Well most of people who quit are not just people who have side business or entrepreneurs, there is literally a subreddit on quitting medicine. Sometimes people who quit loved medicine but began to hate the working conditions

[@xplicitgoofy1015]

@@Medi232-g1x those subreddits are made for bots how could you love medicine but quit it? And about the working conditions, why didn’t those people try to find a different job setting? Why just quit it altogether? I’m just saying if someone truly loves medicine they wouldn’t have quit it because of a 2 year pandemic and they would continue working. Also what I realized a lot of those doctors are in private practice group settings who are quitting and they shave to work a lot because their income is based on the amount of patients they see which is why a lot of people quit in those settings.

[@hkim9151]

@@xplicitgoofy1015 stay at home and raise kids. Of course, the feeling of that is better than waking up 5 am and see a patient.

[@khalilahd.]

As someone applying to medical school I’m not going to lie it’s kind of intimidating to see people you look up to walk away from something you’ve always dreamed of doing 🥺

[@masternobody1896]

lol i guess she was not a true doctor. she care about herself than saving patients life

[@user-kr2ty9vk5n]

Everyone is different. There are people who realize medicine isn't for them and there are people who absolutely love their jobs. My archive is just think about your goals and what works for YOU.

[@joshmcgoo]

@@masternobody1896 bad take

[@becomingdoctorkal]

@@masternobody1896 yup

[@tehmeed337]

@@masternobody1896 thats not even close to being true. there is a certain point in life when things just become way too overwhelming. her job was taking up so much of her time she could not even spend time with her kids. it takes A LOT of studying and working hard to get where she is right now. there is a lot to life than spending atleast 13-14 hrs on a job leaving the people you love behind. i am glad she feels happy about her decision.

[@konstantininozemtsev4442]

"Conditions got worse, pay got worse, admin got richer. Patients got sicker/more rude/more demanding. Those who could leave did, those who couldn’t didn’t and are now having a bad time." -TL;DR from Meddit.

[@0s0sXD]

Admin meaning the people running the hospitals and the private practices or meaning the people running the Healthcare system?

[@0s0sXD]

But that TL;DR to me sounds accurate. Sounds like it makes perfect sense

[@xplicitgoofy1015]

@@0s0sXDhow did pay got worser ?

[@ally-sy2br]

I mean, she’s not really quitting medicine altogether…She’s quitting her current position.

[@AjitMD]

She structured her practice but continues practicing medicine. Spouse makes a good income and provides health insurance, etc. This Physician developed alternative income streams and interests. It is easier for certain specialities like ER, Anesthesia, etc. Especially with hi double income families.

[@MusicalKinetics]

Congrats to Dr. Kristina. My father was an anesthesiologist. He died during the pandemic from COVID-19 in the midst of taking care of patients in Nigeria. If there is anything I’ve learned, it is the need to value every moment of life. There is no profession that can every be and should ever be your full identity. My father taught me how to value every minute and enjoy every breath I have. Thank you Dr. Kevin for covering this content; it is much needed for all to hear.

[@kathy5374]

my condolences to you ❤️

[@Ineshiee]

I live in Poland so I don't know if it's that way also in the US, but here the "Being a doctor is a calling" thing is extreme. It's truly one of the first thing I'm asked by complete strangers when they find out I'm almost finished with med shool "Oh, but is it your calling or are you doing it for the money?". They are a ton of people who believe doctors should be available 24/7, often patients find their providers on facebook and write them private messages... It's honestly one of the things that terrifies me the most - the pressure to work all the time. I can say I didn't know what I signed up for and I don't blame myself for that. I was 19 when I started university, I chose the field I was intrested in and that... would bring in the money, because my family always struggled financially and I wanted to break out of that struggle. We don't do any doctor shadowing beforehand, so really my first contact with 'real medicine' have been after I was already halfway through the medschool. It turns out I really love the field, am good at interacting with patients and it brings me a lot of fullfilment, but right now, at 25, I know I don't want to work 70h+ a week. And I can see how lack of time for my family and interests outside of medicine can actually make me pretty impatient, 'bad' doctor. We are not machines, we need time to recharge. I'm still on the fence about choosing speciality, because I adore internal medicine and the more time I spend on IM wards the more I see I'm suited for it but it's a speciality that isn't really flexibile in terms of hours and that's constantly in the back of my head. Other internal medicine residents keep telling me to not pursuit if I want to have a family... It's all pretty messed up. Just writing it all because I remember being a teenager getting ready for their finals in high school who thought long hours are no problem and I see teenagers in the comments who don't understand how you can quit the field.

[@ItWillRainXO]

Are there options for you to work part time in IM? In the US we can also do part time primary care as IM and some hospitalist IM can be too I think.

[@Ineshiee]

@@ItWillRainXO It's possible to only take shifts in some 'night and holiday care' (it's basically for people who need a conult outside of normal clinic hours but it's not urgent enough to show up in emergency room) or in ER (as for now IM specialists can take shifts there). But it's hard to find a job like that - most places want 48hours/week at minimum.

[@Melissa-qu4wl]

I felt like someone just described my life LOL, I am in the same situation as you and I can relate to everything you said!

[@Melissa-qu4wl]

@@ItWillRainXO you can but you earn way less especially in Europe. Its really sad

[@modernkhajiit]

Makes me want to start youtube and scream about being a doctor in Poland. All those US doctors talking about hours and administration, while in Poland we have SO MUCH OF SHI🎉LOAD of post-communism absurds, some specific to doctor's profession and only for doctor's profession. I just quit operating block for GP jobs on contract and I have soooo much time to think about. I have spent 4.5 years in HELL. I've been used like a prostitute with shaming as a reward 😂 Right now I don't even know why would anyone want to do this s🎉it until retirement. Workload is one thing. The other thing is you will ALWAYS, ALWAYS do someone's job: including organisation of the hospital and public healthcare. It's impossible to overcome. And it's all too expensive for people without family wealth. And it's almost impossible to make a medical career without medical family. And it's even harder if you don't have a co🎉k 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@calvinklein6903]

Title is a bit misleading. She's not quitting medicine altogether, she's only leaving her current position.

[@NrsArea420]

this is not quitting medicine at all, it is changing your approach towards medicine. It is of course a huge deal, but, something really different from quitting medicine

[@Athandatu]

I'm in the middle of med school and this thunderstorm of medical providers quitting really worries me about my professional future...

[@mcchicagoplanespotting1986]

You will do great!!!!!! If you love doing what you are doing, you will succeed!!!!

[@antiracistbaby1085]

SAME i am in my 2nd year and this is making me really sad...all my effort will be for naught

[@xplicitgoofy1015]

@@user-gr4hd7uj4gI know right lmao I don’t get why some doctors go on KZbin just to trash their own profession I like doctors like Dr. Mike because he truly loves what he does he said himself that while burnout in a real thing it is an amazing job to be a doctor and you make a very good living as one and he is a family medicine doctor. I like doctors who talk good about their profession not doctors who trash their profession

[@mcchicagoplanespotting1986]

I am not going to quit, I am 17 and doing AP biology senior year, whole 2021 I been battling sarcoma, whole year I learned the cells, clinical shadowing, and medications and as well as experience. I am not giving up on being a family physician!

[@wetyuu]

lol, okay.

[@Valcreee]

Keep pushing!

[@jubran7469]

Go for it! Best of luck!

[@niyatsiyum4774]

@@wetyuu what's funny about their situation??

[@w.d.asencios4997]

Come back after actually working in the field and submerging yourself in the work you will have to do, such as dealing with the insurance and having patients yell at you because a bill came at their house. I'm grateful for you and I'm glad there are people like you out there. But 17 years old, my best advice would be try seeking other opportunities out there such as clinical research, healthcare consulting; there's so much to do outside of just being a medical provider. Trust me when I tell you that the burnt out is serious and real. Prioritize your mental health first. This is all coming from a person who works on the clinical side closely with medical doctors. I help them do so much paperwork so that they don't kill themselves or leave the profession out of frustration. All of that work brings the worst in people. Healthcare in the US is not what it used to be anymore, and it keeps getting more and more complex for medical doctors. Also, doctors are losing their authority and control on what they can and cannot prescribe. They have to take into consideration what patient can or cannot afford. And if you work at hospital, as a primary care provider, you will be forced to meet a quota of how many patients they want you to see in an hour. It is a ridiculous amount of patients, which is why doctors don't even provide enough time to their patients anymore.

[@sleepytraveler369]

As an IMG trying to get into residency in the US, I remember the horribly paid, overworked life with non standardized teaching that I would have in my war torn country and all this seams tolerable lol

[@shadetreediesel6973]

Yes. It boils down to individuals not liking work. I wish some of these doctors would understand going into it that they still have to work hard for their money.

[@Melissa-qu4wl]

@@shadetreediesel6973 I dont think anyone likes to work 80+ hours a week :) its not normal and in every other field this is considered illegal. stop excusing the toxic work conditions in medicine

[@visionvixxen]

The thing is, she is still able to make enough money as an anesthesiologist and or monetize creative pursuits BECAUSE of the investment, the license , the degree, no? It’s still a platform and security blanket.

[@JavierMartinez-cl8qf]

Hi Kevin! Huge fan of all your content! One thing I would love is if you could make a video about what students who graduate medical school can possibly do with an MD degree and no residency. I’m about to graduate medical school and was wondering if you had any tips or advice on some jobs we could do without having to go through residency. Thank you!

[@pragnashah6159]

Kevin you are amazing.. The content you are posting is saving a lot of young people throwing away their life in the wrong way.. You are that valuable human that this globe need now .

[@eugeneglory2758]

Then don't say you've “quit your job” if you'll still be doing locum. I respect your opinion but some of these videos sound quite misleading.

[@bobbyburches8026]

Total click bait. She's doing locums. She is not stopping her practice.

[@OrganicDolphin]

So she didn’t actually quit lol. Big difference.

[@musiqal333]

Just finished step 2 CK and about to level up as a medical doctor, and hearing about all these doctors quitting medicine got me feeling some kinda way no lie 😵

[@whazzas5023]

There was an interesting article in the Atlantic. I think a lot of this burnout comes from artificially pausing the number of slots available to teach doctors (residency positions) for fear in the 1990s that we were producing too many doctors for the population. This was obviously very bad forecasting/modeling, and all medical societies agree now we have a massive doctor shortage. Currently every doctor has too much work and not enough time to do it well, which leads to burnout and moral injury. obviously many practices were very slow early in the pandemic when patients were fearful to see a doctor, but this has resolved. I don't have any easy solutions to this. Perhaps compacts and certification exams for Canadian and European doctors to come practice here without repeating residency? It will continue to be a challenging place to work for many years due to shortages in medical workers.

[@0s0sXD]

Why do you think they make European doctors redo their residency? Because they don't want foreigners to compete with them. It's f***ing clear as day

[@ItWillRainXO]

Another solution is to contact your congress representative about the Resident Physician Shortage Reduction Act which would add thousands of residency spots that we desperately need!!! Spread the word to everyone you know- we need to be loud to get this bill passed ASAP.

[@0s0sXD]

@@ItWillRainXO yeah you definitely should do that 100% that's to the benefit of - all the over worked and burnt out doctors - all the people this garbage Healthcare system is failing And students trying to find residency spots.

[@jonaslover8246]

Why only Canadian and European doctors? What a eurocentric solution lol

[@0s0sXD]

@@jonaslover8246 you know even in Europe there's a shortage The shortage is global people. It's f***ing global

[@marisa768]

But the thing is - she could clearly afford to make this transition. I'm totally on my own, have a lot of student loans to pay back, and have no family support with money or otherwise. So those of us still in medicine but cannot leave (due to one life circumstance or another), are really just stuck, even if we want to make a serious change with our careers. Glad that she was able to do what makes her happy, but that's not the reality for a lot of us. I can smell the privilege a mile away with her story.

[@xplicitgoofy1015]

Why are you thinking about leaving medicine if you just started? Being a doctor is a really prestigious thing and the fact that you want to quit medicine so fast makes me wonder why did you really want to pursue medicine? Being a doctor isn’t just any medical job you guys are literally the leaders of medicine and some dumb guy with no medical knowledge has no right to tell you guys how to practice medicine. You just doctors should all stand up and take your place as leaders of medicine not some dumb insurance company or a ceo of a hospital who doesn’t even hold an MD or DO degree. Luckily a lot of prestigious hospitals don’t have this issue but there is definitely cases in private practice where the insurance companies are the bosses of doctors and that’s just wrong. You are the future of leaders of medicine and must take action now

[@anaos1004]

I love this! I love Kristina and loved that she found a way to balance all her passions 🥰🤩

[@aliasbores5225]

The weekly chronicle of the original quiter lol... Strong material, as always. Keep up the good work

[@camjo6397]

She literally said she isn’t quitting, just going part time. I don’t think a lot of you even watched the video lol

[@raulcabrejos]

I’m practicing anesthesia in my country for more than 10 years and I can tell how privileged American doctors are. Sad thing is, that you don t even know how tough is the reality out of US. I work more than 65 hrs a week and I cant afford to buy a decent house. In countries like Peru, burnout is a life style for doctors. I would lived a dream if I were on your shoes.

[@AjitMD]

Many doctors who quit early have figured how to earn, save and invest successfully. Some have made $miilions in investments. In 2000, and 2020 peak stock and real estate market are a hi valuations. These doctors have options to control their professional life to be satisfying, and great physicians. 2 doctor families have better options. A person in Primary Care, student loans, house loans, kids, hi maintenance non-working spouse, etc had ball chain to the leg. Hard to break those shackles.

[@StunningTransformations]

She didn’t “quit”. She is still practicing PRN, basically only working when she wants to cover sick, maternity leave, vacations, etc. She is burnt out and also a mother of 2 or 3 kids. Good for her.

[@joseloor4762]

I just went from having 9 doctors to just my self and from 7 locations to 2 locations and just myself have 12 RCM people from 50 RCM. Selling out my shares from outpatient surgical center so I don’t have the financial pressure

[@josechacon6015]

As a medical student, my goal is not only practice medicine but spend time overseas in Global Health as a missionary doctor. Global Medicine is my top reason to enter medicine as well witnessing couple countries where there is a lack in essential necessities. I know many doctors have done this and despite the stress and difficulty, they are more happier and forfiled than any doctor in regular practice. I pray that those interested in medicine I pray that all will enter and be satisfied in what they do knowing that all is possible to chase the dream

[@erinnorwood6124]

Me too

[@cheyenneyoon4353]

Hey Dr.Kevin I had a question and wondered if you could do a video on malpractice. Both from a M.D. standpoint and the patient standpoint. I was hospitalized last year for sepsis they also found I had MRSA in my hip joint. The thing is they had incorrectly interest the measurements of the abcess and didn’t preform surgery as a result of this mistake. A day before discharge I was made aware and had a doctor admit they had made this error . However the shock of them making such a mistake/and recovering from heart surgery made me less proactive in what my options were legally ect. My question is since being healthy and recovering from the sepsis/damage and subsequent heart surgery I’ve noticed that I might’ve had damage done due to the infection and access that wasn’t operated on due to the mistake in the measurements being dictated in Millimeters instead of Centimeters. Now I’m trying to figure out how I should proceed now that I have recovered from the heart surgery .

[@dr.j2455]

greetings from Pakistan 👍 really effective way of communicating Dr kevin dude

[@plant-basedmd8155]

I am planning to retire in Mexico living 3 weeks in mexico then traveling to the US and working for 2 weeks for the rest of my time in medicine..

[@whattheelle360]

You give her too much credit. She was never all in. She got the Dr version of the Mrs degree.

[@ramsesdenis]

My biggest take away from the video was that I’ve been missing out on your car channel for who knows how long…

[@kevinjubbalmd]

Just started it :)

[@nicoyabeauty]

Thanks for this reaction!! I have been following Dr. Braly for a long time and you did a brilliant job doing this. Edit: You should do a series about teachers leaving. They are leaving for similar reasons. They love teaching and kids but everything behind the scenes is bad news.

[@jcjcviews]

We need to get those who want to reduce doctors to the level of your average fast food workers out of the "business" of medicine. We need to put up a fight against ever more corporate control. Doctors should be called "doctors" and not "providers." They're giving us the slip, guys. We must RESIST while we can.

[@mustang8206]

Low key I'm hoping all these people getting tired of medicine will make med school admissions easier

[@coolso0oz]

That’s true, am very sad 😔 this is happening to Medicine

[@sav0405]

would love to hear your thoughts about the privitization of medicine

[@FolaOrekoya]

I see United States healthcare system allowing Foreign doctors practice after passing all USMLE’s steps or broaden/increase the residency openings. Period!…

[@yarasweiti9066]

i wanna quit and i am a medical student

[@kekelixxx3073]

Not related but I have a butterfly tattoo,can I be rejected from Med school due to that

[@ItWillRainXO]

I don’t think so. But if you want to be extra safe then just hide it if you can. Legally they can’t discriminate against people I don’t think. But it depends on the school or the person interviewing you if they have an older traditional mindset

[@coscarov]

She DID NOT QUIT

[@faramarzmokri9136]

I hope one of you doctors keep the tally on the doctors that “quit” after life beyond quitting . I really want to know what a doctor will do in the real world where they lack the knowledge, education, skills and experience to survive in the real world out side of their medical training. It is time for the US to train 3X more specialists( increase supply) and doctors and have big Pharma pay for it. After all isn’t the fact that the trainees ( doctors ) are the ones that push their mostly poisons they produce!

[@leme9006]

Its mainly (and seems like only) influencer doctors quitting lol. They make a good hustle if not better from youtube, sponsorship, etc. also theres a business space for physicians to get into consulting or being in a leadership/executive role. Also PRN docs can make a lot still

[@andrewgonzales1359]

I thought this wasn’t the end of her career?

[@coolman949]

A few things to point out here. It doesn't sound like she quit her medical group because she got tired of going from place to place on short notice. She seems more concerned about starting/running businesses that have nothing to do with being an MD. As a patient, I don't want the person who is responsible for keeping me alive during surgery to be thinking about how well their side business is doing in the OR. She chose the wrong profession. Also, she lives in TX, where it's a lot cheaper to live and she has a husband, who I assume also works. Dual income family. A 30 year old bachelor who lives in Los Angeles, where a 1 bed apt can run $2300/month does not have the option of just quitting and becoming a free lance anesthesiologist.

[@xplicitgoofy1015]

Her husband is an orthopedic surgeon I’m sure he does fine with their single income

[@blaby4ever]

Ay yo Kev, what's your opinion on Ghost surgery?

[@blaxis3271]

She didn't quit...

[@hdjaxksjdks3664]

They found that YT cheddar, if one can become MD making money online is easy money

[@mateobaelen3843]

Seems like everyone quits medicine once their KZbin channel gets big enough so they could live off that. Very frustrating to see all these people turn their back on medicine once the financial incentive turns towards "being creative on youtube"

[@osamae6944]

IKR!!! These people quit medicine once they have other ways to make more money otherwise, but tbh i would do it too if I were in their position

[@joseloor4762]

Wow this is crazy

[@HSSMC112]

Second, love your videos!

[@aliviamazumder3622]

Second! Great video btw.

[@StunningTransformations]

It’s never the job, it’s the nonsense that goes with it.

[@muttandjeff5213]

So...she quit her job, not her profession. Ok.

[@dr.1956]

Seems like you're always excited when doctors quit.

[@PianoSree2012]

pal you and me are on the same page.

[@andrewgonzales1359]

N of 1

[@efrainramirezv]

I want days of 48 hrs per day 😂

[@josemaqueda8334]

First :)