Angela Rayner causes ‘embarrassment’ for Labour in tax investigation fight

“She is making a political fight out of this. Angela Rayner is a fighter and no doubt about it, it is causing some embarrassment for the Labour Party.”
Deputy Labour leader Angela Rayner is fighting against pressure to reveal tax details about a previous house unless Tory counterparts reveal their own tax affairs, explains Times Radio's Adam Boulton.
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[@user-gd6qm9qs6n]

I do hope that this Tory attempt at smearing Angela Raynor is viewed in perspective. Let us take the opportunity to look closely at Tory contracts for mates, earnings from Corporations to promote their business given to Tories, and expenses claimed, second homes, and finally let us see Tory tax records. I am not destracted by this Tory attempt to besmirch this female M.P. who has more talent and and integrity in her little finger than most Tory entitled MPs.

[@danmayberry1185]

Jess Phillips nicked a digestive biscuit when she was four - GBN

[@algiles881]

I bet she has knicked a great more still since then - one of the would-be showbiz MPs with her "don't you know who I am?" self aggrandisement

[@jackdubz4247]

SHE MUST RESIGN!

[@maxhobby1701]

Jess Phillips wants to watch out George galloway's workers party has her in their sites to unseat her in Birmingham .

[@julianshepherd2038]

Labour scandals seem like small beer when you see Lady Mone

[@TimComley]

No small about this. Resignations matter

[@gerrabath]

@@TimComleyExcept if it's the Tory party.

[@alien4422]

Yes the Tory media will say and do anything to try and save their masters. Look out for more hatchet jobs as the election draws near.

[@fionacarroll5562]

both Raynor and Mone are vile.

[@mrc2384]

​@@fionacarroll5562Don't be ridiculous.

[@anthonylloyd8000]

No fuss about hunt not paying any stamp duty on 7 properties saving 100,000.

[@JT-si6bl]

‘Class war’?

[@coderider3022]

She committed tax evasion.

[@alanbeaumont4848]

@@coderider3022 Not according to the police.

[@gio-oz8gf]

@@coderider3022 You don't know that. I do know that even relatively transient publications such as Tweets or KZbin comments can constitute libel. She doesn't seem like a person who forgives easily to me. It might be better for you to keep your trap shut.

[@beammeup8458]

Hunt the hunt ..... i thought there was a "c" in it ...

[@henryjohnfacey8213]

She has disclosed her tax to a police investigation. Let us the people see all MPs tax and financial affairs of the last 15 years. We the people have the right to know. Sovereign and control by parliament. Financial involvement of foreign governments in British democracy and party funding in general. 👹

[@sasserine]

Let's start with Sunak, enriching his wife's companies, by giving them contracts.

[@catherinemartin6258]

I sick of this Tory media they are so biased it’s disgusting if this is was a Tory mp it wouldn’t even be a story.

[@jop4826]

Oh yes it would..look what happened to Boris for having a sandwich. He was tormented for a year. Time for the hypocrite to go.

[@matthewn1805]

@@jop4826 Boris lied, mislead and broke his own rules to try to belittle all that is hypocrisy.

[@sasserine]

@@jop4826 Still having to lie, about Johnson being deposed, for a party? Because it's a deflection from the real reason, which was covering up the crimes of a sex attacker, and putting that sex attacker in a senior party HR post, where he would handle allegations of sex attacks. And Johnson knew the sex attacker was a sex attacker, when he promoted him, because he is on record joking about the sex attacker's sex attacks. So now you've outed yourself, as someone who approves of sex attackers, and the people who protect sex attackers, would you like to retract your misinformation about the reason for Johnson's disgrace?

[@Rattlerbrand]

go and have a party ? but remember beer and curry isn't a party

[@robmc3338]

​@@Rattlerbrand Lol, the beer and curry was AFTER the restaurants had reopened. It was completely allowed because a Curry IS a meal... Johnson's crime was during the height of the lockdown and then he repeatedly lied about it in parliament... That's why Johnson is known as the serial liar Johnson.....

[@frankcarter6427]

how has Jonathon 'The Gimp' Gullis become a millionaire since entering parl't on 80 odd grand PA? I think we should be told.

[@anthonylloyd8000]

Shut the house of Lords useless place.

[@williamford8027]

10000 ayear, mps keep voting for infation bustin pay rises

[@sasserine]

Keep on exposing the Tories' absolute contempt for working class home ownership. I'm sure that won't rebound badly on you.

[@marionmclean3749]

Ashcroft has a brass neck having a go at Rayner about anything. How much has that old crook ripped the Treasury off for?

[@davidhodgson3901]

There is no embarrassment for Labour. She’s turned the matter back onto the Tories.

[@garyfryer5334]

What a desperately sad comment!! Be ready to swallow your own s..t!!

[@rodneyfungus8249]

ROFL

[@matthewn1805]

Exactly, that they bring up something that happened 15 years ago where even if the tax was due would be just £1,000 against the billions in fraud the Tories have committed is astounding.

[@ffrederickskitty214]

Deflection, I think they call that? Straight out of a liar’s toolkit 😂

[@sasserine]

@@thelleftaremad7556 I think you misunderstood the comment. Rayner being proven to have a clean record isn't the flex you seem to think it is. It gives the public the opportunity to discuss proven examples of Tory tax avoidance, and theft of public funds. And the longer the Tories and the Tory media attempt to keep the non-story alive, is less time they can devote to other matters, leaving Labour with a clear field to expose Tory failure. This isn't hurting Rayner, *at all*.

[@AndrewHart-xn9yk]

Hears a great idea all MPs sign a pledge only to use the NHS no private treatment for ministers or their familys It would be interesting to see if the health service was so strapped for cash

[@sasserine]

Thanks for reigniting the public anger, about Zahawi's tax avoidance, that the Tories hoped was forgotten. You absolute clowns.

[@michaelvdunne]

It’s ok for Tories to bend break tax laws. But not for anyone else.

[@rodneyfungus8249]

What Tories have broken tax laws and got away with it?

[@malcky630]

No its not ok for them or any one else.

[@robmc3338]

She didn't even break any laws. She has been investigated and found to be innocent.

[@gentleeventful]

I thought maybe I'm mistaken that she said she would show them as long as the ones in the conservative party would show theirs.

[@lkyuvsad]

This. The stories are about a matter of a grand or so, 15 years ago, that’s been settled. She’s quite right- let’s swap Rayner’s tax details for Rishi’s and the rest of the Tory front bench. Absolutely astonishing situation that this can turn in to a real story, when the tax affairs of multi-millionaires are not.

[@Gambit771]

Why should anyone that isn't under suspicion be forced to hand over personal files. All this shows is that she's hiding something otherwise she would not hesitate to prove her innocence.

[@gentleeventful]

@@Gambit771 That's something seriously wrong with you. You haven't thought this through.

[@SlowhandGreg]

@@Gambit771 HMRC have seen the files as for you and I it's non of our business If she were the PM then that is a different matter but Labour aren't in government so can't be accused of doing favours for mates and its 15 years ago its as about a non story as you can get

[@shaun906]

@@lkyuvsad what's lol about this is the Tories have based it all on a neighbour of Angela saying she didn't spend much time at the house that was declared as her main residence.

[@nodrogwarob]

The way the right wing media are pushing this story has left me wondering what is being covered up this week? The fawning over and shilling for the Tories that the media have done over the last few years should embarrass some of these journalists.

[@kenhardy8405]

The Honours System should be Scrapped Altogether it’s a Disgrace that Friends and Donors can be Rewarded. Into the HOL with £350 a day for Life.

[@stevelloyd5621]

The Thames water board and share holders should be made to pay for the upgrades if they refuse to then their shares should be lost....

[@MrGeeeMac]

Is this really the best the tories have got?

[@malcolmstockbridge2569]

Yes

[@shaun906]

i thought the same, its a good sign, it seems they have been storing this one up as a gotcha, but they went a bit early now they have nothing on labour lol

[@haseebur-rehman3218]

Jeremy Hunt committed outright PSC Register fraud and simply apologised, when in fact he should have been prison all this time.

[@julianchambers8372]

For once I agree with her ALL politicians should be required to reveal their tax and incomes.

[@andyb.5268]

The Tories are going to regret this as soon as the boots on the other foot.

[@thehealinggame]

Sunak gives knighthoods and honours to some of his Tory mates who are worth millions and gave money to the Conservative Party. Let them publish their tax affairs and then I'd agree Angela Rayner should publish hers. She's apparently accused of not declaring 2000 pounds for tax when there are wealthy Tories that are avoiding a lot more than that and bidding for government contracts from their mates.

[@malcky630]

Thats not the point is it, so its ok for her to thieve then according to that.

[@edmurth]

Gullis who was a teacher until he became an MP in 2019 is rumoured to be worth £5,000,000, his salary as an MP would be around £380,000 before tax and his register of interests amounts to a few thousand pounds so where did the other £4,500,000 come from?

[@RobinHarris-nf4yv]

I don't understand how he can get worth anything, he is just one of the dumb 2019 grifter intake. He must be very busy taking lobby money like it's no tomorrow

[@bwright227]

That isn't an MPs salary. All sounds made-up to me.

[@johncooper3404]

Lets hope that she hasnt eaten any cake!! Or had a curry at an event she wasnt at

[@oldfella3919]

Or flashed her "Growler"

[@sasserine]

Johnson wasn't ousted, for eating a cake, no matter how often the Tory apologists attempt to lie that he was, to drum up sympathy. He was ousted by his party, for protecting and promoting a sex attacker. You know this, and by lying about the reason for Johnson's downfall, you are also covering up for a sex attacker. I hope the people you care about in your life see your social media posts, and realise what they've been taken in by.

[@22448824]

Or had a glass of wine in the back garden of your home

[@timelwell7002]

Water should never have been privatised. Running a vital public service for profit has a built-in conflict of interests. The UK is the ONLY nation on Earth to have opted for such an arrangement, thanks to the current Neloliberal ideology which has been shared by both main political parties. It is SHAMEFUL that Starmer doesn't want to take Water back into public ownership - especially given that he came to be elected Labour leader on the basis that he would do PRECISELY this.

[@keithmiller1467]

Lord ashcroft the one wasting police time Has some special none dome tax dodge 180m

[@stevenkillington5041]

No one voted for sunak because no one wanted him any where near parlia,ent hes done nothing but get a lot richer while we all pay hes bills

[@obsidian313]

To be clear most of these sewage events are just dumping not spills.

[@marionmclean3749]

Sorry? "the British water system"? Scotland's water is publicly owned as is Welsh water so there is no such thing!

[@sasserine]

I think that guy in the blue shirt should publish his financial records. What's he got to hide, eh? Eh? What's he got to hide?

[@sasserine]

She was investigated and cleared of any wrongdoing. Stop smearing.

[@lkyuvsad]

To be clear, I think The Times did a better than average job of gesturing towards this being a cynical smear in this piece. But I’d love to see a more muscular defence of issues-based rather than sensationalist politics.

[@jop4826]

It's not up to the police it's up to the taxman

[@matthewn1805]

@@jop4826 Fraud if proved is a crime so yes it is a police matter, but since they already investigated and already disproved its crazy that they have to do that all over again.

[@sasserine]

@@jop4826 Would that be the taxman, who found Zahawi guilty of tax avoidance, and charged a penalty within the range for 'deliberate' misrepresentation? Asking, for the UK electorate.

[@seamuspadraigsanders431]

​@@matthewn1805That's not how it works, she was never investigated, or she would have the paperwork and a no further action sheet from the CPS. Her boss should know this as he used to run the thing which is highly amusing.

[@carlishiggins]

today a man has No dignity infront of his family because very poorly paid £11 an hour, very humiliatingly

[@simonrowan2130]

Lots of people get tax advice. Doesn’t always absolve them. Ask Jimmy Carr

[@benstar279]

Just like with Starmer two years ago, the tories and the hired press are scrambling to get anything on Rayner. And they keep finding nothing.

[@stevelloyd5621]

It's not just the money it's where she was registered to vote. All MP's which ever party they are from should be cleaner than clean. I hope that she and others clear this up

[@sasserine]

Clear *what* up?

[@sasserine]

We already had increases to our bills, decades ago, to pay for upgrades to the infrastructure. Those repairs should have been done, and the cost deducted from shareholder dividends. If the water companies attempt to add a further charge, to cover what we already paid, all dividends previously received since privatisation should be taxed at 100%, plus backdated interest.

[@algiles881]

Add the £28 billion a YEAR for the pipedream of Net Zero by 2030 and Starmer will have us living like paupers - he will be Ok as he is a multi-millionaire. funny that saint and seeker of truth never tells you that!. His dad was a toolmaker you know........

[@annlyder8657]

How about the Tories renting out their homes in London and then getting expenses for their second home IN LONDON at the same time?!!!

[@Gambit771]

What does that have to do with her? Maybe those Tories should copy Rayner by refusing to hand over files until Labour members do?

[@sasserine]

@@Gambit771 She has handed over the files, Einstein. That's how she was cleared of any wrongdoing. Now, let's see Sunak's.

[@22448824]

@@sasserineYour mistaken again. I'd bet there is no tax advice .

[@robmc3338]

​@@Gambit771Bless, she handed the data to the people investigating, that's how she was cleared.

[@lovelybitofbugle219]

All the comments are about the tories...

[@31Blaize]

Likely because this is to Tory scandals what a firecracker is to a nuclear bomb.

[@HomeGrownVeg]

Nothing to see here.

[@paulmidsussex3409]

She says, you show me yours and I will show you mine but apparently BoJo has already seen it.

[@lesbianalien3435]

Makes me laugh when they say. The hounrable lady or gentlemen. There's not one hounrable person in politics. Mps are supposed to make life better for everyone. But they only try and make it better for themselves at the expense of others

[@malcolmstockbridge2569]

Dennis Skinner and John Smith would be 2 exceptions.

[@gerrabath]

Why do people who live in glass houses insist on throwing stones?

[@rmw7536]

Where as all the PPE money gone

[@MrTzimisces]

This is such a non story I love how obsessed the right are with it

[@sasserine]

And it's hurting the Tories, the longer they keep it going.

[@annishilcock4587]

If she was causing embarrassment Keir Starmer wouldn't be backing her.

[@brianchandler1365]

Baking?

[@annishilcock4587]

@@brianchandler1365 Better?

[@Gambit771]

He supported Diane Abbott and let's not forget he supports Angela Rayner. Kier doesn't care about being embarrassed.

[@annishilcock4587]

@@Gambit771 ? what?

[@robmc3338]

​@@annishilcock4587To be fair, Starmer did defend DA when that Tory donor called for he to be shot, then refused to apologise for that and lettuce Sunak failed to do anything as usual...

[@rmw7536]

Where did bojo get over £4m cash for a house

[@YUDNSAY]

Interesting, I thought ALL politicians were/are 'Embarrassing'...

[@Gambit771]

Just like all people are.

[@YUDNSAY]

@@Gambit771 True, however, what we say or do, does not affect millions.

[@elizabethbeattie6488]

I wish Angela good luck fighting the corrupt Tories and their poodles in the media Go on Ange . As a labour member I'm not in the least embarrased.

[@nicksimmons7234]

Murdoch press getting more and more desperate.

[@mrmeldrew693]

Why are people still arguing for Red/Blue. They both hate you. Wake up.

[@johngalvin3124]

Picking on Angela was a big mistake. She will drag the truth about Tory fiddlers out in the open. She was underestimated all the way to the top of her game, watch her showing the Tories how to fight!

[@seamuspadraigsanders431]

I love the confusion over what is a very simple issue, she owed tax, she didn't pay it. Now she is an Mp she is effectively immune to conviction. Very obvious actions from a Labour Mp and its supporters who think they're above the law.

[@sasserine]

I look forward to your libel trial.

[@seamuspadraigsanders431]

@@sasserine You do not pay Capital Gains Tax when you sell (or ‘dispose of’) your home if all of the following apply: you have one home and you’ve lived in it as your main home for all the time you’ve owned it. Rayner didn't. you have not let part of it out - this does not include having a lodger. Rayner let it to her brother for years. you have not used a part of your home exclusively for business purposes (using a room as a temporary or occasional office does not count as exclusive business use). the grounds, including all buildings, are less than 5,000 square metres (just over an acre) in total you did not buy it just to make a gain. Rayner did buy it to make a gain.

[@jeremymanson1781]

@@seamuspadraigsanders431 Except that: there are no tax consequences from having a lodger. You ARE allowed to rent your entire house out for a certain amount of time with no tax conseqences. The Tories are launching what has been billed to be the filthiest ever election campaign. This is just the start. So strap yourselves in for a very bumpy ride up to election day.

[@22448824]

@@sasserineSeamus' reply shut you up didnt it.

[@juliegregory3900]

@@seamuspadraigsanders431 Ms Rayner had been paying rent on this council house and then bought it in 2007. I doubt she was thinking about selling it at that point and would have had a mortgage. My own family members did exactly that to stop paying rent which was in effect ''dead money'' . Her brother as I understand lived there whilst doing DIY in lieu of rent. But I don't actually know this, nor do you! What is this FIXATION on Ms Rayner? At most IF she owed CGT it would be £1,500. Seamus, will you forensically examine the finances of the man who wrote about this, Lord Ashcroft? I think you would have much more fun! He lied to parliament denying his non dom status and received £150 MILLION from his offshore account in the Bahamas whilst registered as a non dom in Belize. Do you think he's a hypocrite? Why do you defend the wealthiest? What have they done for you?

[@keithjackman8886]

She is supposed to be the 2IC of the Labour Party. Guffaw! Guffaw! Guffaw!

[@johncooke8173]

If you sold a council house the Tories are coming for you, ditching the aspirations of Thatcherism

[@user-hj4ug2yq5x]

Angela as the song says 'its time to say goodbye'

[@garymitchell5899]

Adam seems to have been inflated with compressed air

[@simonrichardson5203]

She will be found out if its true

[@juliedove3787]

Be nice to have someone commentating who is less biased than Boulton

[@vonryansexpress]

Times Radio lost what little credibility it had when Adam Boulton started to appear . . . His agenda driven comments snd narratives are very damaging to the fragile ecosystem of truthful, impartial and balanced reporting . .

[@Pure_B]

How much was she supposed to have defrauded? Why are the police getting involved? Do they get involved in all tax fraud cases amounting to £1,000? Ridiculous waste of police time and resources.

[@seamuspadraigsanders431]

Capital gains is charged as follows. "CGT is charged at the rate of either 10% or 18% for basic rate taxpayers. For higher or additional rate taxpayers, the rate is either 20% or 28%." Rayner was a member of the Labour Party at the time and was sleeping her way to the top of one of the unions so should have been paying the higher rate. She has lied repeatedly and said this was 15 years ago, it was 9. She also committed voter fraud by lying about what property she was living in to try and avoid the capital gains. So she has been fully caught out.

[@Pure_B]

She was cleared by the last police investigation so that's not going to change. @@seamuspadraigsanders431

[@RobinHarris-nf4yv]

​@@seamuspadraigsanders431she hasn't lied at all Tory boy

[@seamuspadraigsanders431]

@@RobinHarris-nf4yv Pretty sure you have to live in a property full time to avoid capital gains. And not let it out to your brother for years. Also you can't avoid capital gains if you bought the house to make a profit. Loony boy.

[@johnowen1677]

It's not £1000, it's £48000. Why are you defending her? Are you on her list of misdemeanors?

[@SunS13707]

Angela for power!!! ❤❤❤

[@jtrevm]

Look at German system for water and sewerage..no problem

[@lornalow7479]

They are scared of her

[@robinj6137]

Does anyone really give a damn?

[@user-db9zf1vi8s]

Rayner caught in the axt what a nasty piece of work.

[@robmc3338]

Cought in the act of being innocent... Yes, the scandal 🤦

[@ThomasBoyd-ex5vr]

Austrian gold coin £101 bought from USA charge 20% VAT on it and shipping costs Thomas. Britain England London it VAT Free. It hold it value against UK inflation Thomas.

[@SunS13707]

Go on Raynor JUDGE these whoever's! Love and peace Angela. Protection. ❤❤❤

[@SteveJones-gz4vd]

Oh dear Tax cheat

[@bingohall1333]

This third won't flush. Love mum

[@EricaFiore]

I like Angela Rayner. She gets my vote.

[@RobinHarris-nf4yv]

Angela Raynor is very popular, especially with voters in Northern marginal seats. That's why the Tories are so desperate to bring her down.

[@MrDeadhead1952]

Sorry the mess is Thatcher's and the privatisation of water.

[@Rattlerbrand]

well the police looked into BEERGATE and the chief of police up there ? thats a funny business , raynor and other mp,s have flipped houses for personal profit , YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE STANDARD BY WHICH WE LIVE , pretty low standard isn't it , I think we need better people with higher than gutter standards

[@robmc3338]

It was beer ANS Curry. The restaurants had been reopened and groups were allowed under the rules as long as a substantive meal like a scotch egg was eaten. Are you claiming a Curry isn't meal?

[@rashomon351]

if in a political discussion, you've got nothing left than to get personal, your opponent seems to got it right politically, don't you think ?

[@rmw7536]

Typical Tory Times and Tory supporting Murdoch.

[@zzhughesd]

All the same. Greed

[@jonathanfell688]

Easy cliche

[@robmc3338]

So you expect Labour MPs to pay more tax than HMRC asks for?

[@juliegregory3900]

zzhughes how would you describe Lord Ashcroft who received £150 MILLION from his offshore account in the Bahamas whilst registered as a non dom in Belize? ( peers weren't allowed to be non doms, he denied it continually) also, why do you defend/support these multi millionaires/ billionaires?....

[@williamsafari6437]

SHOW US YOUR TAX RETURNS ..SIMPLE AS

[@22448824]

That wont show anything. She didnt pay any tax on the house.

[@robmc3338]

What do you expect to see that HMRC and the police didn't? They have already looked and found nothing.

[@paulbelstone7938]

She should because she's a politician and shouldn't have had it in the 1st place!Another vile person in politics.

[@malcolmstockbridge2569]

You do know this was 6 years before she even came into politics !....a little knowledge is a dangerous thing !

[@paulbelstone7938]

@malcolmstockbridge2569 lucky you have none then!

[@sasserine]

So, you're attacking home ownership, now?

[@jonathanfell688]

Garbled nonsense.

[@RobinHarris-nf4yv]

Oh look a Tory

[@keithmiller1467]

tory mp in had police investagate wasting police time again

[@3D_Printing]

£5,000,000 donation knighthood Tory let's not look at this

[@arthur1670]

Legal advice means nothing

[@jonathanfell688]

Meaning she saw a Lawyer and took their advice.

[@arthur1670]

@@jonathanfell688 those workers getting paid with loans they thought they never had to payback because of dodgy advice said that. But the taxman cometh

[@robmc3338]

​@@arthur1670Lol, the taxman has already looked and ruled there is nothing to pay... 🤦

[@arthur1670]

@@robmc3338 HMRC haven’t looked the police looked and are looking again for a second time.

[@jasoncooper9391]

HYPOCRITES Tories 😂

[@Dibley8899]

Because she is a high-profile public servant, not an ordinary member of the public, and there is suspicion. Get your docs out, Rayner. Giving money to a political party is not a crime; Fraud is, regardless of how much money is involved.

[@robmc3338]

This has already been looked into once and she was found to be innocent. Also it wasn't the donation that was alleged to be criminal, it's what the Tory donor said and refused to apologise for...

[@proskipper1]

When we were in the EU we were proud of our Blue Flag beaches laws to prevent pumping of raw S++T. Thanks to Brexit water companies can discharge at will as it is cheaper to pay the fine than fix the problem. FYI not just rain water overflow - look at the figures / data.

[@julianshepherd2038]

When we do a deal with the USA, we can have siht in our meat too.

[@bobbymozza]

It was happening while the UK was in the EU. "Water companies in England and Wales are responsible for many pollution incidents every year. In the 12-month period of March 2020 to March 2021, Southern Water was responsible for 94 pollution incidents per 10,000 kilometers of sewer. This was closely followed by South West Water. Water companies in the UK have come under increased scrutiny in recent years due to their impact on the environment."

[@joanjones1090]

Why is it still assumed that a woman no longer lives in her own house because of a relationship with a man, these days marriage is no longer a long term agreement and more people although married keep their independence, seperate living arrangements etc. Keep up with the times

[@johnowen1677]

The times may change but tax rules still apply. The voters list will tell which was her main home. I hope she didn't get a vote from each address. Now that would be serious!

[@22448824]

@@johnowen1677 Yep, seriously funny but not entirely unexpected.

[@22448824]

Just saying "keep up with the times" doesn't make you right you know.

[@neilmorris6046]

All crooked

[@jonathanfell688]

Easy silly cliche

[@susanpettitt713]

All they have left says the right wing press enough GE

[@51madmitch]

This is about the tax affairs of a woman who may have been living elsewhere, and not in the council house, she is always shouting to others about coming clean, if nothing to hide why cause problems for her party, double standards again.

[@nearlythere9443]

She has come clean, to the authorities who need to know and they have cleared her. However, she has not told YOU or the Express/Mail etc.

[@pipoo1]

If its the only home you own you can sell it and not pay capital gains tax. Lots of couples who owned property seperately do exactly this and she sought advice from a tax advisor, plus the Police already investigated and found no wrongdoing. So what new evidence do the Tories have? None. This is a smear, and given the plummeting levels of home ownership in the UK, now at just 50%, its clear the Tories no longer believe in or support working class home ownership, and god forbid a working class person buys a home and then makes a profit on it. The final absolute betrayal of Thatcher's legacy. This is now wholly a party of investment bankers and slum landlords, the kind of people she hated. No wonder all her surviving ministers have washed their hands of the rotten stench that calls itself the Conservative Party in 2024.

[@lkyuvsad]

@@nearlythere9443the trolls know that. It’s all bad faith.

[@51madmitch]

@@nearlythere9443 Sorry but the police and local authorities don’t open a case without grounds, I’m not against her, but MP’s are well known for their less than honest declarations, All of them, tax payers money after all, we have a right for transparency, remember ?!?!

[@gio-oz8gf]

She has provided all of the information to those who have the right to see it. You are not included in that list. Mind your own business.

[@David-ix1uv]

As much as I can’t stand Rayner, this is a nothing story and big story distraction

[@bobbymozza]

A distraction from what?

[@juliegregory3900]

@@bobbymozzait's like ''the boats'' distracts from the torie's abysmal record.

[@Dibley8899]

This is not about the Conservatives; it's about facilitating the public's desire for the truth. She has a duty to the public to produce documents to clear these allegations. Turning the tables back on the conservatives is just another political deflection.

[@VinceLammas]

Angela Rayner has no duty whatever to disclose tax advice she obtained in meeting her financial obligations. I'm vaguely interested in the details but I dont have any right to know (especially as forner enquiries have found nothing of concern). Conservatives throwing stones at others for questions about relatively minor amonts of tax seems laughably risky, given that those stone-throwers are all living in houses made of glass.

[@shaun906]

i think you didn't pay some tax 15 years ago, i want to see all your tax and income? you have 24hrs to hand it over lol

[@sasserine]

Let's see your tax records. Your neighbour told us you sometimes had a visitor stay the night, so you must be a fraudster. No smoke without fire, eh?

[@RobinHarris-nf4yv]

It's everything yo do with the Tories, its a desperate deflection.

[@johnowen1677]

​@@shaun906All the right comments etc. and all to be asked by the HMRC investigation branch. Not the public!

[@malcky630]

Small amount of money, £ 1000 is a lot to most people, in case you didnt know.

[@ftsetradersteve2742]

The arrogance of this creature....There is NO WAY she can become deputy PM now surely....

[@derekwhite2929]

Conflagration of taxes with moral integrity is a recipe for disaster.

[@gio-oz8gf]

I'm not sure what you mean, a conflagration is a large fire that causes serious damage. Perhaps you should consult a dictionary before using big words.

[@frankcousins7655]

She is a target because she has lied before(curry gate) and she is constantly bringing these things up against Tories. As far as I am concerned there is no threshold for fraud or lies, you either did or you didn’t. In the past she said MPs should resign if being investigated by police

[@coderider3022]

How can she have any proof ? She probably thinks her actions are proof. Doubt any email / letter exists from a lawyer explicitly saying her situation means no tax. I assume it’s energy bills and council bills but it’s where she slept at night.

[@gio-oz8gf]

I doubt that you have the faintest idea of what you're talking about. How could you possibly know what proof she has?

[@sasserine]

Why do you doubt she has legal advice in writing? Is this another sneering, misogynistic, class-baiting attack on her, because you believe a working class woman couldn't possibly have checked she was carrying out her financial affairs correctly? Did you make the same sweeping assumption about Jeremy Hunt, and his multiple examples of non-payment of stamp duty?

[@coderider3022]

@@gio-oz8gf wouldn’t be an issue if she had “proof”. I have bought a few properties and know how it works and spent a long time around conveyancing law so I do actually.

[@seamuspadraigsanders431]

​@@gio-oz8gfWhere is the NFA (no further action) sheet from the CPS. You know the organisation her boss used to work for. 😅😅😅

[@jonathanfell688]

Cobblers. It's all been looked at once and the Police snd HMRC cleared her. Guessing based on nothing is not Evidence or Fact.

[@rinkadink66]

what she did probably, is what most people would have done to pay less tax.. however, most people are not deputy leaders of the Labour Party and as such thought of being honest and pay the correct amount by law..

[@slightlyconfused876]

She has been investigated and been cleared by the police. What goes through your tiny mind?

[@pipoo1]

She sought advice from a tax advisor and also its already been investigated once and cleared by the Police. The Tories have supplied precisely no new evidence. This amounts to the Tories attacking the very principle of working class home ownership, since they came to office in 2010 home ownership has plummeted from 73% to 50%.

[@lkyuvsad]

The important fact is that it’s already established that she didn’t break the tax code. But additionally, this was 15 years ago, 6 years before she was an MP, and this is the only thing they can find to attack her with. It’s pathetic.

[@malcolmstockbridge2569]

@@slightlyconfused876 The answer is ...not much !

[@sasserine]

'What she did' is what she was told to do, by the Thatcher government. It's official, now. The current Tories despise working class citizens, and don't believe they should have a right to own their own home. That's a good message, ahead of an election. 'If you're working class, and trying to secure a place to live, the Tories despise you'.

[@vincentblack7467]

Vote Labour get Islam..

[@jonathanfell688]

Silly sausage

[@Alan-yq6gl]

Get rid of her

[@edmurth]

She’ll last longer than your KZbin account.

[@RobinHarris-nf4yv]

Oh look a desperate Tory voter

[@ill_be_frank]

Slept with half the blokes in high school can't tell her child who their dad is

[@yancowles]

Same as your mum then.

[@awwasson]

Ahh bless, is that what your mum told you every night when she tucked you into bed?

[@geofflittler2035]

Do you know who your own father is?

[@malcolmstockbridge2569]

You dream of her most nights dont you ?

[@shinkansenshinkansend8316]

The lack of self awareness in a lot of these comments is staggering. Ignore what Raynor is accused of whilst at the same time criticise conservatives for doing the same things.

[@sasserine]

What has she done? Before you answer, be aware she's been investigated and declared cleared of any allegation. Also be aware, the UK has strict libel laws, in case you were tempted to lie about the above fact.

[@jonathanfell688]

She's already been cleared. Tory MPs have been caught. Therefore.....

[@22448824]

@@sasserineYou again. Are you Raynor's white knight. You seem obsessed with libel law on her behalf.