the exact moment the beauty community was destroyed (Dramageddon 3.0)

[@Lenas_Makeup_Box]

Shane "the empath," rolling his eyes when Tati mentions her experience with SA. That live showed his real person IMO

[@angelikamakeup]

THAT was what really annoyed me!

[@carolferreira705]

Do you believe Tati? I don’t know. She lied so much during Dramaggedon and tried to blame others for what she did. I am not saying Shane and Jeffree are completely innocent, but she never showed the proofs she allegedly have against them. I am sick of famous people, when things go bad ( they are about to be cancelled), all of them say they were SA or have mental health problems. I don’t know who I believe anymore.

[@Lenas_Makeup_Box]

@Manuela Lima True, she didn't provide proof. My comment mainly highlights that Shane has always called himself an empath, and no empath would react that way when hearing of someone's SA, even if that person later learns that theSA had been fabricated. When you hear that at any point; for your 1st reaction being to roll your eyes means he is no empath.

[@carolferreira705]

@@Lenas_Makeup_Box Honestly I don’t believe any of them are good people. Shane may not be an empath. But Tati is not definitely either. She only talked about James and his alleged predator behavior after he worked for her competition. No empathy for alleged abuse victims, although she’s allegedly one.

[@jnoelleart]

@@carolferreira705 the only difference though, is that tati didn’t constantly call herself an empath like shane and make everyone believe that it was true despite his terrible past (and present) 😭 she never claimed to be an empath like shane constantly did thanks to k🤮ti morton

[@catherinedean3796]

Watching Shane on that live gave me the same uneasy feeling from watching a Criminal Minds sub start panicking once they realize they’re caught

[@angelikamakeup]

YES!

[@maryams3765]

Wait what happened with criminal minds? 😮

[@Iamyl4]

@@maryams3765 nothing shes just saying the fiction characters in the show lol

[@kendrickdinger]

The most accurate thing I’ve ever read!!

[@immortangel3978]

I’ve always said Tati was right with both videos. Shane and Jeffree were in Tatis ear but not because they cared because they wanted to take out competition. They used Tati as their puppet the information they had they only gave her to take James out. She wasn’t wrong about James and wasn’t wrong about Shane or Jefree either

[@peadiedie]

i agree with this completely, i just think the timing was due to the gummies imo

[@NeedMoreCoffeeOG]

I think the point was that she was never right, though. Tati only posted the first video because James took the Sugar Bear Hair sponsorship and not Halo, and she only posted the second one because people were already critical of Shane and Jeffree at that point - she posted the videos for selfish reasons, not because her audience actually needed to know the things she knew, because she didn't know all that much apart from saving her own behind.

[@Karolina-xi8de]

@@NeedMoreCoffeeOGexactly how i feel. she knew her friend was a predator but only decided to “expose” that only when he “wronged” her

[@bandit7459]

Tati is a scumbag and a scam artist. Like the other said, she only went after James because he promoted another company. Otherwise she was willing to ignore that James was a predator. Also "in her ear"? She was nearly 40 years old. She was a business owner. Her Husband runs the legal side of her business. She has enough experience and has the resources to be smart about her actions. Stop coddling her. She is not one of these young youtubers being taken advantage of. Now lets take in the fact she is a promoter of snake oil products. Products with ingredients with no real testing, or such insignificant amounts, that taking her gummies and supplements was the equivalent of taking sugar pills. Than diet recommendations....it just gets worse. Not condoning Jeffree's past actions. He's done some shitty things. But months before this happened he banned James from his house. Telling someone that "yo this guys a creeper", is not whispering. Should he have been vocal of it? Yes. But you saw the outcome of this whole shit. It would have ruined his career and James probably would have never truly been exposed as the creeper he is.

[@carolferreira705]

Do you think SHE cared? The only reason she made those videos was to hunt James Charles down. She was not worried about the alleged victims. She only talked after he did publicity for her competition.

[@hail2472]

i still cant believe that i lived through all this

[@hwoods-kg1jf]

Yeah same here! What a time to be alive, right?! LOL!

[@tarakennedy2512]

I was in Hawaii on vacation with my family when this first happened, I just kept seeing memes about it. I can’t believe how badly it went down

[@Sarahkara1313]

Shane’s reaction was that of a GUILTY PERSON

[@angelikamakeup]

SO guilty!

[@freya7084]

Not really his anger was genuine

[@julissaallende2499]

@@freya7084 e

[@sarahdemaeyer5854]

Exactly, we saw his true character in that moment

[@Sunny_dayz.]

@@freya7084 lies

[@orgcnas]

watching this unfold in real time was just insane. i didn’t find out about dramageddon 1 or 2 until they had settled down a bit, but i watched everything happen in d3 and wowww it just kept getting worse

[@ktjbudgie1114]

Yes, same

[@byulharangforlife]

Literally

[@lukenaidoo208]

i grew up watchinng dramaghedon 2&3 go down and its honestly its wild how now looking back at it, The world turned on Tati in an instance but yet James and Jeffery are still making videos and havent really been affected

[@tartmeow6003]

I’m glad Tati is back and is making the content she wants to again. I was an OG Jeffree Star KZbin watcher and now I only watch Tati and Manny after all of this.

[@abigailxmary]

can you say misogyny????

[@marianap.h3961]

I’m sorry you had to watch this at a young age. I was 28 when this happened and even I felt this affect me, how it consumed

[@dspadi1017]

I remember that live of Shane freaking out, lol. Just worried about his career.

[@heidifitz]

Proud to say I stood by Tati in this drama the whole way through. Should she have handled things differently? Sure. But let’s look at all of the people in the mix here…

[@Owlsshadow_95]

Yeah, she was super emotional and I know so many other people would be just as emotional. Myself included, she handled it as best as she could and I felt like she had good intentions.

[@bandit7459]

@@Owlsshadow_95 Oh yeah, expose a predator only because he promoted another brand. Not because, you know, he's an predator or anything. Nearly 40 year old business woman with experience and a legal team. Nah lets coddle her.

[@worstkiterchan9207]

@@bandit7459 I agree. She did it horribly. But at the end of the day, she was one of the main reasons why we found out. It wasn't well done and The reason why she did it was petty, she should have done it earlier. But at the end of The day, am glad she did it.

[@bandit7459]

@@worstkiterchan9207 Yeah, but she back tracked like 6 months later.

[@worstkiterchan9207]

@@bandit7459 oh lmao, didn't know that, thanks! Didn't have time to watch the vid in full due to time constrains ahah

[@LilyMcdurmont]

We miss your anti hauls and projects pans 🥹 but in the other side, the new beauty community (not the beauty gurus) but those girls that share their routine and makeup, you included, are so refreshing. More relatable, even more relatable makeup, not too much filters, lights and powders. Even the makeup collabs seems more genuine. I don’t think the « old generation of beauty gurus » would have lasted more than that. Those dramas just made it worst. But the beauty community isn’t dead, those beauty gurus ones are dead.

[@ryanjohnson06]

i personally think there is no ‘good’ side in all this drama, everyone was a villain in their own way, it’s a very complex situation that honestly should be studied.

[@angelikamakeup]

Completely agree!

[@exequielperez28]

I watched this with subtitles and it says "cow chasing". ICONIC.

[@melmel1071]

Hearing this being spoken about as a past situation is wiLd. I remember everything so vividly haha. Followed every second of it somehow 😭

[@naomiwashburn358]

My principle is if someone does something terrible once, it could be a fluke and is probably worth forgiving. If they do it a second time, that is a MASSIVE red flag and the relationship should be reevaluated. Three times is a character trait and they will never change.

[@shadowpixie01]

It's funny because I just got around to watching your videos on Dramagaddon 1 and 2 yesterday and remember thinking "huh, she said she was making a third one." Truly impeccable timing. Look forward to listening to this while I clean the house

[@rymichaaa]

I’ve been waiting for this omg I adore your storytelling & how well everything is put together 💗 definitely one of my favorite creators

[@angelikamakeup]

💗💗💗 thank you

[@jeankirschtein777]

The one detail you got wrong is that he didn’t stop live-streaming because he got too emotional. His bf or husband literally started telling him to get off live. If Riley hadn’t been there this livestream would have been way longer and who knows what other terrible shit he would have said.

[@oneika2353]

watching the Shane live was the craziest moment in life especially after d3

[@saramandura]

the way he’s sitting on the couch in his apology video drives me crazy

[@AAAforshort]

Oohh I recently bought that colourpop set for my sister's birthday, happy to hear they're working well! I'm excited to gift them to her~

[@angelikamakeup]

They’re so good - I hope she loves them! ✨

[@KAYoLEE]

No matter how many times I see that Shane live, it just gets more and more insane each time

[@koszachtyiswawole]

Im literally about to sleep, and there it is, my story for good night! Thank You, Angelika 💙💙💙

[@barboursie4414]

This drama will honestly do down in history I remember watching live James Charles lose MILLONS of subscribers in like 3 days and the Shane Dawson live honestly my fav video ever

[@krolikzajchik8886]

You’re fake crying you are FAKE CRYING

[@Jeniltonification]

I forgot how insufferable and icky Shane as a person is. "I don't want to say mean things about people!" is giving "nice guy" energy🤣

[@Offtherails78987]

Glad u mentioned Liam McEvoy- honestly a fav of mine!! love their vids

[@angelikamakeup]

Those videos on Jeffree were SO well done!!

[@joelleg8415]

Idc abt drama but I just watch you because I love you

[@angelikamakeup]

ily 💗

[@joelleg8415]

@@angelikamakeup moreeww

[@elizabethheyn5365]

Was only present for dramageddon part 3, but dangggg. I remember looking at Tati’s hour long video and deciding to watch it. What a tie that way

[@cloudytysm]

Love this series! All the episodes have been so well researched and I can tell you put alot of effort in! Hope you are doing well and don’t push yourself too hard!!! ❤ Sending lots of love your way 💕💋

[@angelikamakeup]

Thank you 💗

[@marimarmeladkina4334]

I still love Tati videos, and don't get bad vibes from her. But it's true she needed that time off yt and to figure out where she stands

[@b.k8051]

Thumbs up for putting in the work!

[@gracielagarcia3984]

literally love these new types of vids

[@angelikamakeup]

Thank you 💗

[@lululucalulu]

I love watching/listening to your videos before going to sleep. You have a really soothing voice :)

[@stormieperkins7935]

She said she didn't make the video bc of the vitamins but the insta story says different. I really don't care that she spoke to him privately about his behavior the point is she would have never brought it to the internet if SBH didn't give James a brand deal. Which is all crazy in hindsight now that Tati doesn't even own Halo beauty anymore

[@laurenann4693]

this is kinda niche in terms of Shane controversies, but something that always stuck out to me that nobody really seems to talk about was his weird obsession with trying to out other queer people like Dan & Phil-like, there were multiple instances of this, and you’d think that as a fellow queer man he’d know how not okay that is? Idk, I’m gay & the whole thing just really bothers me-thinking about being in D&P’s shoes & stuff. I feel like it’s important to talk about things like this tho.

[@angelikamakeup]

I’ll 100% look into this - so messed up!

[@laurenann4693]

@@angelikamakeup “Shane Dawson tried to out dan and Phil and we need to talk about it.” By thattylergirl and “Shane talking sh*t about Dan & Phil” by felucca are two videos that are a good place to start-it was brought to my attention through Twitter a few years back but I can’t find the thread, but these videos highlight the key points!

[@angelikamakeup]

thank you i’ll check them out!

[@bitter_rice]

this isnt necessarily related to the beauty community, but it’s definitely related to shane, but I think after shane’s whole “conspiracy theory and crazy food” era, all this “im such a good person” thing started when he made the video reacting to his “hater” aka bobby burns. looking back, it’s so fucking sad seeing how much shane ruined bobby’s career and led him down a crazy mental spiral for years (?) people seem to gloss over this whole ordeal with bobby, but i think it’s important to take note of it to see how crazy manipulative the whole situation was. maybe you want to look into this for a future video?

[@rinalawrence7937]

So glad I unfollowed all of these people once the drama started. Couldn't tolerate all the clownery that happened thereafter

[@trailertrish]

i was sad Tati Beauty closed up shop tho bc that palette is one of the best in my vault. 😩

[@angelikamakeup]

So good!!

[@angelpartin5381]

Firstly I wish this video came out sooner so I could’ve used your code & bought from that brand 😭 also Shane’s reaction will literally never surprise me 😭 like did we think he was faking this persona online? Yes BUUUUT that was insane 😭 I wish I knew the tea between Tati & them tbh like how did it all go down

[@xTetraMuffinsx]

Gosh, I can't belive this was maybe 2 or 3 years ago...

[@saharajvs]

I personally believe that all of these would've been so much easier if everyone stood up with and for Tati since the begining.

[@oldcheese4]

not only was shane a super toxic and icky person during all of this, I don’t think there was a time where he wasn’t toxic on the internet. as someone who grew up watching shane from 2012-this mess I can say with almost 100% certainty that he is the reason for my toxic body image. the way he would so casually joke about hating his body, self h***ing, and being fat in a very damaging way had such an influence on his fans that were my age, which I feel like was a sizable percentage. I grew up thinking that mindset was funny and healthy and now I am an adult with crippling body dysmorphia and I can still hear the echoes of his “jokes” sticking with me. it’s insane how he made internalized fatphobia trendy

[@pixiewisteriaa]

8 minutes in and just wanna say i am so glad theres someone else who sees J* in a similar way i do. hes dramatic and a liar and honestly is a disgusting human being. he acts like he’s something above everyone else, but he really isn’t and it’s embarrassing !! literally no way anyone can defend him anymore. ALSO ppl say “yeah hes trash but his makeup is good” but like… the makeup i tried from him is some of the worst makeup i ever tried LMAO

[@pixiewisteriaa]

also, i feel like these gurus forget that this is real life, not a tv show. the way they all act on camera and the way shane acted on his live, it all seems so artificial and dramatised its actually so odd to me and something i cant fully explain properly

[@LilyMcdurmont]

You said it all!!! As in this whole industry you can’t find any other makeup u choose to support such self centred racist sex offender 😤

[@lifewithlizwhit]

His makeup is overrated and overpriced

[@xeobee8471]

The Beaty community dug its own grave, love u sm tho

[@lizz44180]

These are my thoughts, shane and jeffree of course they participed but tati did the videos. And yes she did it only for the vitamins the video was 95% about the vitamins and how james crossed her. Then in breaking my silence she said that she did the video to warn james, not to share light into the alligation she said I Never call him a predator (so she is simpaticing with him) tati is no saint they all suck and we shouldnt support any of them.

[@angelikamakeup]

Yes it was definitely messy from her side!

[@millennialstray4215]

Your dedication to milk a 4 year old drama until it's dead is amazing

[@onedirectioner123432]

your makeup always looks good but I can’t stop staring at how glowy you look here! Also what mascara do you use?

[@ishouldbedoingstuff2396]

She has other vids where she does her makeup on camera and links all the products, I think she used the glossier mascara?

[@jamiedee2409]

I was kinda late to dramageddon 2, but completely in time for the third part... What a time to be alive. Tbh I cannot believe that Shane is trying to make a come back in the beauty industry after all of this disaster. He and Jeffree really don't have a conscious and feel no guilt at all, even though they started (almost) everything. I really hope their new plan will fail, sorry not sorry.

[@The_Strawberry_Fox]

Please do a deep dive on the allegations against James Charles.

[@bean-cc6dx]

what was more culturally significant? the renaissance or dramageddon 3?

[@angelikamakeup]

That’s a tough choice 😭

[@immortangel3978]

BEEN WAITING FOR THIS YES

[@elynmibord4128]

Can you do a video about the accusations against James Charles pleaseeee

[@Rainbowofthefallen]

Just Commenting for the algorithm 😃

[@angelikamakeup]

💗💗

[@litcheese3289]

You are *chefs kiss* 10/10 youtuber

[@angelikamakeup]

💗💗

[@ReeseG12]

ANGELICA what happened with castify?!

[@alicevanderlund3126]

Maybe she doesn't have an exclusivity clause, so she can take ad sponsors from both.

[@Cynners]

love your eyelook. What eyeshadows did you use?

[@davidsteffan9301]

i live for you oml

[@vintag9172]

i miss the people i thought they were

[@leonidandreca2670]

I really like your makeup today

[@angelikamakeup]

Thanks! ✨✨

[@mymagicemily]

Side note, the highlight here?! Is it haloscope or something else because ✨✨✨✨

[@angelikamakeup]

it’s just the charlotte tilbury cream highlight! x

[@mymagicemily]

@@angelikamakeup ooh inspiring me to dig that out for tomorrow! ✨❤️

[@baileydubs]

Speaking of colourpop, I just made a hugeeee CP order today 😅

[@angelikamakeup]

Omg hope you love everything! x

[@nicloren2220]

Why do we keep feeling bad for people who do this to themselves? No one was manipulated, no one was tricked, they did this to THEMSELVES. and she calls herself mature 🙄 I cannot, and with Shane and Jeffrey, they do not even deserve any attention. They have done nothing but cause drama and trauma and whatever else, and I am sorry, but saying they are sorry or they lied for the ‘ funsies ‘ is not enough. It’s not enough and they should be ashamed of themselves. All of them.

[@trailertrish]

i actually have 6 cases from Burga and can attest, theyre awesome. highly recommend!

[@angelikamakeup]

✨💗

[@vel4793]

I’ve always felt like I was biased for being on Tati’s side, like I 100% understand why she did things the way she did, but after recap, in comparison, she’s the only one in the right

[@slickjumpedoverthelazydog]

Good video

[@marianap.h3961]

The worst thing about this is James having won Dramageddon 2.0 meant he could go back to his problematic behaviour and never getting proper repercussions.

[@sophiekuhn5342]

What a weird time to be alive that was

[@candycigarette7202]

what was the exact moment? I'm listening on 1.5sp because adhd & I must have missed what your take on the exact moment was! same as d'angelo wallace with shane's livestream? i'm personally of the opinion that as soon as Shane inserted himself into the yt beauty scene with $$ in his eyes, it started to die....

[@freckledandred]

Imagine having the audacity

[@aron7819]

I love your videos but the whole time i was watching those 2 pieces of hair on your forehead 😂😂

[@yasmine693]

Never been this early looool

[@LilyMcdurmont]

North African gang here ⵣ

[@sofiaottoman]

💕💕💕

[@angelikamakeup]

💗

[@AN-tp4rs]

21:00

[@pumba3889]

I thought you were lenkalul! literally i couldn’t recognize are you the same person or not 😮Both so pretty ❤

[@angelikamakeup]

thanks 😂❤️

[@redstar1223]

your presentation skills are zero. instead of having to look at your face you need more graphics. i actually fell asleep it was so dull

[@trailertrish]

Shanes reaction was legit tho. when he snapped and said "BECAUSE U MESG DRAMA CHANNELS!!!" he knows the truth, that was an honest reaction. i loved them all back then and have since stopped watching Tati bc im just not into makeup like i was back then. Shane is still very entertaining to me and puts out good content.

[@ambersmith2612]

Girllllll shanes a racist and does weird shit with kids

[@Lgm1163]

Boooo tomatoes tomatoes

[@mooobear4427]

I appreciate this as I feel the same. I would love to know what footage he has of all the drama back then he was going to put in the series but didn’t

[@marzonimarisa]

waiting for my salary to use your promo codes 🦦 thank you for the video girlie 💜💜💜

[@angelikamakeup]

💗💗💗

[@marzonimarisa]

i'm so happy that you're noticing me 💜 hope you're doing great and have a nice evening 🦭

[@jamiedee2409]

I was kinda late to dramageddon 2, but completely in time for the third part... What a time to be alive. Tbh I cannot believe that Shane is trying to make a come back in the beauty industry after all of this disaster. He and Jeffree really don't have a conscious and feel no guilt at all, even though they started (almost) everything. I really hope their new plan will fail, sorry not sorry.

[@angelikamakeup]

Completely agree - I don’t know how he’s still pretending that he’s passionate about makeup!