NOT Where I Thought This Was Going | ARCANE Season 2 Episode 8 “Killing is a Cycle”

[@ANGELINAA]

we got hella uno reverse carded with viktor’s storyline… i would like to formally apologize for the jayce slander i spoke of all last week.

[@bulletdancestorm554]

The show is good at making us support villains. Or turn villains into heroes and vice versa.

[@xRakanishu]

She fell for the classic Manson cult 😂

[@Brutalhonesty11]

Look before you leap

[@vonbetter6478]

You mean you did? 😂

[@niarahancock4739]

We????😂

[@scarlletnull2811]

I think the reason why Skye said that Viktor wouldn't miss their talks was because by transforming Viktor was getting rid of his human emotions. He would no longer miss, have nostalgia, or long for anything anymore and Skye knew that. I'm pretty sure she and Jayce (but especially her) was the representation of his humanity. Once he transformed she went away but there was still Jayce.

[@someoneinsomewhere8079]

And she also realized right away how much he changed after getting shot by jayce. Originally he was just doing it with a sincere desire for goodness (by not instantly transforming everyone into puppets but rather letting them live even though he could micromanage them all), but after episode 6 he just accepts Singed's side of the argument and lets himself be driven by it.

[@kildeer]

also she's like nah gayboy

[@locochoify]

Until confirmed by the makers, there will be this debate about Sky's fate. Either she was "real" and was supportive of Viktor's intentions, who was helping people and giving them a choice to be cured, either she never was and was just an invention by the Hexcore to manipulate him in order to pursue it's true nature, or she was a representation of his humanity (and guilt) that pushed him towards helping people and that died when he no longer saw past his mission. All three are very valid and I love it!

[@nickp3065]

That cell scene with Vi and Cait was a mirror to their first meeting

[@DanGamingFan2406]

"There's no good version of me." This quote hits really hard after what we saw in episode seven. The scene is sad however I'm really glad Jinx is wishing her sister happiness.

[@GreyGamesYT]

Love how it's implied that what Ekko experienced in Episode 7 was what he used to convince her to keep fighting. She had proof that there is in fact a good version of her, so she used that as fuel to fight one last time...

[@connorradcliffe1769]

she's shown throughout the series that she knows that Vi has loves others outside of herself

[@Ladco77]

I respect that Caitlin always says "No good deeds can make up for OUR crimes." She never blames others without also recognizing her own faults. She's fully aware that the condemnation she has for Jinx must also apply to herself.

[@Iliasmadmad]

I believe it's like "Sister in arms" or like sister like "part of our Order"; there is NO WAY LeBlanc is Mel's actual sister XD

[@alastorcorvus]

Game lore is not set in stone. Arcane clearly has been retconning a lot of stuff, so she can definitely be her sister.

[@aClownBaby-]

It’s almost 100% sister as in sisterhood

[@alexwang3282]

@@alastorcorvus that part has not changed. Leblanc is still that 1000 yrs old illusion sorcereress.

[@quizzlybear]

@@alastorcorvusbro you don’t know what you are talking about. Leblanc is not Mel’s damn sister 😂 that’s ridiculous! Leblanc is ancient! Also, if she was she would recognize Ambessa as her mother and clearly there is no relation. She even says something along the lines of welcome to “a new family” aka a sisterhood/coven/mages in arms. Not actual family, how is this going over so many people’s head?

[@Iliasmadmad]

@@alastorcorvus Leblanc is 1100+ years old PLUS when referring to Ambessa she says to Mel: "your mother" YOUR

[@Ver_Cae]

Love seeing people apologize for the Jayce slander 😂 my boy has had enough

[@RenegadeSamurai]

he's still a pain in the ass :D

[@badateverything2870]

​@@RenegadeSamuraiI love him for it ; ]

[@KennaBoBemma]

@@RenegadeSamurai tbh yah..... but a much better pain in the ass. He's grown from the small-minded person he once was.

[@alastorcorvus]

Let's goooo I also hated Jayce after episode 6, but it was clear he was either possessed or had more information than the audience. The conclusion is really beautiful, can't wait for the next video.

[@dwnkaomwn3953]

I didn't see a reason to hate Jayce. I'm sure he had his reasons.

[@minusxero]

​@@dwnkaomwn3953that's the great thing about this show, IMO. Everyone has their reasons and they're all understandable if you truly think about it.

[@ANGELINAA]

yesss exactly. written so well - loved how they kept the audience in the dark

[@TheJerbol]

'Passed away' is an extremely polite way of saying 'Decapitated'

[@boforuff]

Your reaction at the end of this episode was all of us⏱️🪽We need Ekko⏳Your analogies between Victor+Thanos and Vi keeping Powder in a box were very clever🔥🥰The deception this show gave us with Victor💔🥺You and this show are perfection, you are glowing✨⭐️✨🤩

[@ANGELINAA]

I'm so glad we could experience this episode together! ✨

[@kirstybatson99]

Anyone else noticed the link between Vi and Cait’s sex scene and Jayce and Mel’s in Season 1? Vi and Jayce were… busy while their sibling/sibling-equivalent was elsewhere, going through some shit

[@BattleAngelFan99]

except they weren't aware Viktor was going through it as bad as he was at that moment. I'm pretty sure Vi was clued in that Jinx might be on her way to (whatever word for self ending that youtube won't delete my comment for) herself. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for people freely.. you know.. for health, memories and experience. I guess they had a moment to do the dirty in a dirty cell if you figure they had no chance of catching Jinx before they have to be battle-ready. I don't know. Seemed weird. But it might be their last chance I guess. But it was weird. That scene, especially placed in the sequence of events where it was, is one of the things that made me feel like the writing was rushed.

[@jckcc]

The way they burned away the last bit of Vander from Warwick was heart breaking

[@ANGELINAA]

Still mourning

[@BeeKnown]

i loved the twenty one pilots song 'The Line' that played at the end, so hauntingly beautiful and makes that scene even more tragic. excited to see the music video thats dropping for it tomorrow to hear the full song from the soundtrack.

[@virlinehonore9767]

11:58 omg i love this scene so much! they’re back together! 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰💜💜💜💜💜

[@natezabinski5615]

14:37 "Why did that feel like a 15 minute episode??" Because you edited it down for youtube, lol.

[@a.a677]

lmao

[@FanaticGam3r]

team jayce since day 1. my king🗣️

[@uselesskidd]

HELLO YAYYY my favorite youtuber uploaded againnnnn!

[@ANGELINAA]

I’m so glad you’re here!!

[@diax0186]

14:14 Thats Viktor's glorious evolution

[@Akuji_shadow_king25]

7:43 she got a point though 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Etticos.]

Victor regenerating in the egg and transforming was some Femto shit.

[@nicklesshot8585]

btw. i loved that song by twenty one pilots. there's an arcane music video to it, about to be released tomorrow. highly recommend looking into it and the lyrics after watching the show. just beautiful

[@MrCerebroretorcido]

Take ALOT OF ATENTION to the Crows showed.... they are not very relevant by now, but its the key for a new season with a new story about noxus

[@sumairali1688]

"After the battle, the ravens feast."

[@ShockArcl1te]

They better be from Noxus... Because if they're from a curiously unsettling scarecrow, everyone in that story may not make it to a third arc.

[@andresbustamante4327]

Sure Cait can forgive Jinx but Jinx does have to answer for her crimes. She's killed innocent people etc. You can't just let that go

[@JackDespero]

It wasn't immediately clear to me why Jinx said that she didn't know that Caitlyn's mother was there, but I think I understood it eventually. I never thought that Caitlyn might consider the attack as "revenge" for "stealing" Vi from her, but from her POV, it might as well be the case. I think Jinx just wanted to say that she was attacking the center of power, and her mother happened to be one of those holding the power. It was nothing personal against Caitlyn. I think that also helped Caitlyn contextualize Jinx actions, not as an attack against her, but just as another turn in the cycle of violence that at the end of the day is being caused by Piltover.

[@JackDespero]

In summary, in the context of this political uprising, Caitlyn's mother was in fact a valid military target, as she was, well, part of the military structure of the oppressors. Jinx did not want to take revenge on Caitlyn by killing her mother specifically. I think that Caitlyn understood that, and that is why she let Vi free Jinx. That being said, I think that the point is so subtle that many people will have missed it, so I wished they had added just a couple more sentences to give more clues/hints.

[@Reaperherpderp]

Sister in terms of mages.... not ACTUAL sister

[@CoyCaughy]

they could change the lore but yea Leblanc doesn't have a sister

[@Zettern96]

My assumtion is that Mel is her half-sister. They share the same father.

[@Reaperherpderp]

@@Zettern96 She means it in terms of Sister-hood, Mage sisters... 100% they are NOT related.

[@Zettern96]

@@Reaperherpderp I wouldn't say 100%. Based on what I have seen League lore is changing to fit Arcane not the other way around, so anything is possible.

[@quizzlybear]

@@Zettern96Trust me Mel is not remotely related to Leblanc. That’s impossible. She’s ancient af!

[@thedarkknight2221]

*”Cait, I don’t fucking care”* Vi and Cait have now dethroned Charlie and Vaggie from Hazbin Hotel as my favorite lesbian couple.

[@Etticos.]

Ngl that was hot af

[@Victorio667553]

14:31 - hehe... heheheheHAHAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DjuraValtr]

With the amount of hate Ambessa has for magic and mages, i'm surprise she didn't join Demacia. A nation that's prejudice and magicphobic to people with magic.

[@JeAlGoGu300]

Ironic yes, but at the end of the day Demacia is a monarchy, Noxus is a meritocracy. It will go against every Noxian principle of the strongest must lead if she went to Demacia. Also she is super ambitious and power hungry, definetly right at home with Noxus.

[@karnage3809]

Glorious evolution

[@dwnkaomwn3953]

Jinx killed Caitlyn's mother. Caitlyn is under no obligation to forgive Jinx for that.

[@snajllo]

8:08 kinda felt like they broke up tho😭

[@crowxcrazyhead2917]

For clarification Angelina it'll be The City vs Machines

[@annabellaroma9886]

Waiting for this on patreon so we can watch with you 😊

[@ANGELINAA]

Coming up right now!!

[@dquanissavage6287]

Angelina Awesome Video Today!!🔥🐐🐐💎

[@lucasgaspar9121]

You gotta watch transformers one is so good and cobra Kai you’ll love it

[@a-timealex]

I'm sorry but could anyone explain me why Viktor becomes a villain? Was this his plan all the time?

[@NotShalune]

I have no fucking idea. I dislike how this turn happened for him. It doesn't make any sense at all with what we've seen of his character. And nothing in 1-6 suggested he was totally lost or brainwashed by the arcane influence. He literally risked his own life and stood up for saving Vander and defending this one man's individual humanity.

[@ANGELINAA]

I won't necessarily say he's a 'villian' - i use that term loosely - his goal was always to achieve a better version of the present. i dont think this was his plan from the start, but like himself the plan was constantly evolving. he creates hextech with jayce, then studies the hexcore, and trying to use its energy to cure disease (specifically his own). utimately, after combining with the hexcore, he concludes that the only way to achieve ABSOLUTE perfection is to "heal the world" so he thinks its saving the world. the audience and the other characters definitely don't see it as healing haha

[@cje499]

He's not so much a villain as much as a victim of circumstance

[@KennaBoBemma]

@@ANGELINAA YES!!! I 100% agree. It's so funny to see the difference in Jayce and Viktor in s1 to s2. They've basically switched their goals. But because Viktor is now fused with the Hexcore, he sees that there is always more he can do to "perfect" the world, not knowing that without human emotions, he becomes no better than the robots he creates. I wouldn't say he's a villain, but he's certainly not the good guy anymore. Much like Jinx, he went through it, came out on the other side a little messed up in the head, and is now an EXTRMELY morally ambiguous character. And Jayce is the only person (initially) who knew what would happen if Viktor went through with his plans.

[@UncleMilo]

It's what they said in Episode 6. Singed made use of the process that Victor originally opposed. Vader has been erased from Warwick.

[@Topcatrs88]

The sorceress is LeBlanc

[@1wayroad935]

The sentiment of forgiving Jinx is fine, but it comes from the perspective of someone who is not one of her victims. Jinx *shouldn't* be able to just walk away from murder like that.

[@ANGELINAA]

I agree to a certain extent. The cool thing is you are right and then SHE DOESN'T walk away this time from her evils. that's why caitlyn is so harsh because instead of justice shes drowned in her voices and thoughts (festering as self pity, madness, etc) so her then CHOOSING to change for the better. To give up embracing the (essentially unintentional) evil she grown up with, and now choose to fight for the right reason and to find forgiveness from those she cares about the most

[@thatonkgau5221]

Exactly this show's how rushed season 2 while season 1 did have a quick pace, it still slowed down enough to give us insight into the characters and feelings.

[@locochoify]

To be honest, I don't think the message of forgiveness wasn't ment for Caitlyn at all, only those who hurt others. Jinx never forgave herself after her toys killed her friends and as "Silco" put it, she put herself in the cage of "Jinx" ever since Vi called her that. She always assumed the worst in her and everyone saw her as she showed herself.

[@MilesMolasses]

“Lowkey I’m team Jayce” idk how it’s even up for debate after what Jayce saw in episode 7

[@20thCenturyboy34]

Ambessa never let his son die....

[@jemormaypa4005]

Viktor didn't murder sky tho

[@runicrochers6548]

Viktor = Ultron

[@SilentSong123]

Omg Vicktor is working for Ambessa wtf

[@technewsfortechnoobs]

There was so much about the Cait/Vi scene to love…. How Cait was going to be honest and tell her she was with someone else….and Vi giving ZERO fucks because she has her cupcake back. Then Cait is the one who rips her shirt off in front of Vi very aggressively, but then is soft and gentle undoing Vi’s wrapping…and is then CONTINUALLY gentle with her. Gently caressing her, touching her, giggling with her in pure joy because she is FINALLY with who she truly WANTS to be with. And Vi…alternating between being very aggressive with Cait, and then being very gentle with her. Showing Cait that it has basically been her….ALWAYS. Just such a perfect love story for these two. People said that they actually did it in season 1 at some point, but this scene right here is almost irrefutable proof that THIS is their first time. The gentle touches, the way that they look at each others bodies, the happy giggle when fumbling to get undressed....just all so PERFECT!!!! It wasn't about sex...it was about love, trust, letting go, giving in, and intimacy...all the things they NEEDED in that moment with each other, knowing what was about to come. So happy I got my Violyn back.

[@soumyachatterjee2603]

Exactly, she skipped the whole scene mate, i wanted to see her reaction, I'm so mad.

[@Sinvare]

Sister witches. All witches are sister, at least some people see it that way. Are mages female witches?

[@Luster...]

Vi telling Cait that the undercity will eat her alive in season 1. Flash forward to this episode with Caitlyn getting eaten out by Vi.

[@basskillickeen1077]

Crazy connection 😭

[@paulalexandredumasseauvan2357]

your post-credits reaction was MORE FUN than the episode! 🤣 REALLY enjoyed this! 👍😁

[@ANGELINAA]

yea wait til you see episode 9's post episode reaction LOL

[@Ephemerthefish2525]

Sorry no I mean this is a show but No You cant just forgive jinx becuz she is struggling but she is still a criminal A murderer

[@jbwade5676]

🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@DanGamingFan2406]

Jinx, S2E3: "Hope you had a chance to... ya know." They have now, and it's everything we could've hoped for. Tender, passionate, and you can tell from the tension just how badly they missed each other.

[@EternalDensity]

A silver bullet? No she's clearly a golden bullet

[@OtakuNime0]

Low key

[@thatonkgau5221]

9:40 Jinx just locked up her sister in a jail cell so she could commit suicide and instead of breaking to go find her sister and save her. Vi just decides to finally get with Caitlyn and hook up with her inside a jail cell. WTF😂😂😂😂😂 But in all seriousness the whole Caitvi sex scene was incredibly out of place and forced.

[@JeAlGoGu300]

Many people missed the point of Cait's words to Vi. "Do you really think I needed all the guards at the Hexgates". She is basically telling Vi that she made it easier for Vi to break Jinx out. Not only this shows that Cait is willing to let go (not the same as forgive) and also that no matter what from now on she has Vi's back. That is the reason that Vi kisses her so passionately, because it is clear she is the one for her. And then it led to their scene together. Vi won't hold back anymore. They know war is coming. They love eachother, I don't know, but if you ask me, many people would've done that with the person they love in that situation. Not forced at all.

[@martinbraun1211]

Please give the Star Trek franchise a chance.

[@Sam-wq9vi]

🤑

[@Samuri-11]

I hate that jinx is abt to freaking kill herself while vi and cait are going crazy in a jail cell so (SPOILER ‼️) my goat Ekko has to save her himself

[@S0LAVELLANHELL]

vi literally didn’t know that jinx was going to do that. also why do people ALWAYS want vi to do things for everyone else but the moment she tries to do ONE THING for herself, people are angry? it’s literally what jinx told her to do.

[@TBoring]

Honestly I think Ekko getting through to Jinx is a great full circle narrative moment. He tried to save Powder when she first was in Silco’s care and she pushed him away, so he gave up on her. Now he’s seen the goodness in her from his journey to a parallel universe and is reminded of his feelings for her and decides to save her once again even though this time she’s given up on herself. Also Alternate Powder said that she’s never seen Ekko give up on anything and he did give up on her (Prime Powder) when she became Jinx, so now he’s got a second chance to not give up on her.

[@bloodymares]

@@S0LAVELLANHELL I wouldn't really listen to what a su*cidal person think is best. Their reasoning is warped. She didn't have to remove herself from the picture for Vi to be happy with Cait, it wasn't a zero-sum game. I don't think people are mad about Vi choosing to do one thing for herself but about the unfortunate timing of it. If it wasn't for Ekko, I don't know how Vi would cope with the guilt that she chose to bone her girlfriend when her sis chose to speedrun any% the rest of her life.

[@cbb276]

I don't think Vi knew that's what Jinx meant by ending the cycle. Besides, Jinx gave her blessings about the relationship. She wanted Vi to allow herself to be happy and pursue Cait. I think if Vi didn't let go of her guilt and refused to cross that line with Cait, it would have been a waste of Jinx's heartfelt wish.

[@iampotsataja]

The timing and necessity of that scene is just really odd to me

[@gachaem4105]

10:10 I personally ship Jayce and Viktor I prefer Jayce and mal to be friends. However love your reactions ❤

[@bloodymares]

Shipping two straight dudes is kinda weird. It's like shipping Vi or Cait with another dude.

[@nicklesshot8585]

​@@bloodymaresbro even the animators and writers themselves not only ship them and others but they also write their own fanfics. they actually also discussed the possibility of their relationship being romantic. it's really ok bro

[@KaiserDaChoom]

​@@nicklesshot8585 except the writers literally said that the relationship between viktor and jayce wasn't romantic

[@gachaem4105]

@@bloodymaresfor me Jayce is kinda bi and Viktor is gay because he never looked at sky, she was a friend for him he only looked at her the moment she died. However everyone has their opinion

[@bloodymares]

​@@gachaem4105 He definitely looked at Sky when he met her for the first time (when they were kids). So he definitely liked her. Maybe he never pursued her because he was self-conscious about being a cripple. Or he was just ace.

[@primal1233]

I'm glad Vi and Caitlyn are together again.

[@RayMcElroy50]

Seeing Vi and Caitlyn in action makes me wish I was a woman lol

[@EternalDensity]

You can be!

[@wetnoodlex]

"Everybody needs to learn how to forgive" yeah idk how that flies when Jinx is a literal fucking TERRORIST lol It's not about Caitlyn's forgiveness at this point. That's why the show ended the way it did. That's why Jinx left. There's no world where Jinx exists alongside Piltover when she's killed so many enforcers and topsiders. Vi gets to be with Cait because she left. She may have helped save them from Ambessa and Viktor, but it's not so easy to just forgive. Forgiving is for when they called you a bitch and slapped you because they didn't like your attitude. This goes beyond that.