1:58 - 2:25 Cardinal Strauss, the German Cardinal who presided over the Papal funeral and the Conclave was modeled after the recently deceased Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI)
@benjaminatterberry1843 Жыл бұрын
@2:20 A priest would never hold the Host like that.
@JB-tt6ct Жыл бұрын
What? They do it all the time with the one they take themselves
@santiagobenedini1415 Жыл бұрын
@@JB-tt6cti believe they gotta hold them with the tip of their thumbs only
@JB-tt6ct Жыл бұрын
@@santiagobenedini1415 I don't know that they should. I guess it a tricky balancing act so that's why they don't do it here,they pinch it. I'm still more outraged that they don't share the wine
@santiagobenedini1415 Жыл бұрын
@@JB-tt6ct i wouldn't know since im not a priest mate, but from what i remember from the time i attended mass, they held it in that manner
@JB-tt6ct Жыл бұрын
@@santiagobenedini1415 maybe it's an European thing cause it's the same here (Vatican) and in my country. Just logistically I think it would be hard to balance a 2g chips on your thumbs
@LGranthamsHeir Жыл бұрын
0:50 - 2:25 The commentary here is a reenactent of the narration describing the rituals of Papal death and funeral from Morris West's "The Shoes of the Fisherman" - a 1968 movie starring Anthony Quinn, who played a Russian cardinal who was elected as fictional Pope Kiril I
@tamoghnasen5158 Жыл бұрын
Have to watch
@princeedmirovillar8044 Жыл бұрын
1:49 - From left to right Cardinal Guidera🔥🔥🔥 Cardinal Lamasse💨💨 Cardinal Ebner🪨 Cardinal Baggia🌊🌊🌊🌊
@LGranthamsHeir7 ай бұрын
The prefereti (in the novel) or the papabile (in real life)
@Christabbaword Жыл бұрын
John 8:51 Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death.”
@ciatro Жыл бұрын
In this film, all references to the Catholic church and especially to the death of the pope and the conclave are absolutely false or at least absurd and ridiculous. The writers did a lousy job of documentation.
@lukasmontenegro3558 Жыл бұрын
How could you say this? Let's see some of the parts of this clip which are actually true and follow the procedure of a Conclave. You can give a look in internet videos after John Paul II's death or in the church's own documents issued in 2005 . 1. 00:08 Destruction of the papal seal by the Camerlengo, in the presence of cardinals as witnesses 2. 01:02 Sealing of papal apartments by the Camerlengo. 3. 1:15 Procession with the pope's body in open display through Saint Peter's Square. 4. The "preferiti", actually called "papabile" are also well known within the college of cardinals, e.g. Eugenio Pacelli (Pius XII), Giovanni Battista Montini (Paul VI), and Joseph Ratzinger (Benedict XVI) were all papabile. I agree that some parts are embellished for cinematographic purposes, but to call all a lie or ridiculous is incorrect on your part. I understand you may be a catholic and wished thing were different, less pompous. Yet, it is the way it is!
@ciatro Жыл бұрын
@@lukasmontenegro3558 Excuse me for my insistence: Nothing that appears in the film follows the procedure of the conclave. 1. 00:24: The black sleeve of the cassock is the first mistake: the camerlengo IS a cardinal, he cannot be a priest (later we see him acting as an acolyte of the "Great Elector", a character who does not exist in the reality of the conclaves); 2. 01:05: A voice says that at that moment: nine days of mourning begin, called "vacant see", confusing the "novemdiales" (9-day period of Vatican mourning) with the time that elapses until there is a new pope. 3. 1:15 am: The transfer (not procession) with the body of the deceased pope is carried out from the Clementine Room of the Palazzo Regio to the Basilica of Saint Peter, passing through the side of Saint Peter's Square; in this transfer there are no official representatives of any country (at 01:28 people in uniform are seen in the front row, as if they were kings of some country); it is witnessed by the faithful who are in the square at that moment, and it certainly does not go around the obelisk that is in the center of the square. 1:50, the "preferiti" are presented as the main candidates (they are even in the first row), the "papabili" are supposedly favorite cardinals according to the press and Vatican specialists. Simply, there are no "preferiti". And these are the absurd errors that appear in these two and a half minutes. There are also wardrobe errors. The cardinals do not wear the miter in this transfer, but rather the biretta, the miter is used exclusively in masses and liturgical services; The rest of the movie is filled with more mistakes and nonsense. Obviously the scriptwriters were not well documented. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4rQh4mVeK1lm6s Video of the transfer of the body of the Pope to Saint Peter's Basilica.
@maxdepasquale23513 ай бұрын
@@ciatro Thank you very much for pointing out the mistakes. I wonder if Hollywood is ever able to make a film on the Catholic Church without making so many errors in such a short time.
@camila_costa1219 күн бұрын
No catholic should watch this heretic movie
@marioescalante4401 Жыл бұрын
I swear it looks like the dead pope is being played by the actor Derek Jacobi but in an uncredited role/cameo.
@RobelynQuiachonReyesRola3 ай бұрын
❤ thanks for the brave question.some views are still need to be answered by silent and this will be your guide for some reason....
@BrianDennington8 ай бұрын
McGregor did such a great job with his role.
@mami34273 ай бұрын
Yeah even though his character is supposed to be Italian, they changed it to Irish to suit him better
@LGranthamsHeir Жыл бұрын
We'll see another Papal funeral in a few days time but no Sede Vacante followed by a Conclave this time, #RIPPopeBenedictXVI
@kennethjohnson4280 Жыл бұрын
No Frank the Hippy Pope is alive and... I don't know, to say well seems like a stretch.
@atorporno2802 ай бұрын
Cadê seu funeral papal?
@xpresstesis9601 Жыл бұрын
This is John Paul II funeral
@alexandreclairefontaine2329 Жыл бұрын
No, this is John Paul I funeral. The film took inspiration from various theories surrounding his death.
@xpresstesis9601 Жыл бұрын
@@alexandreclairefontaine2329 John Paul I died in 1978, Cars, technology and everything in movie indicate that these could not be 70' or even 80'
@ciatro Жыл бұрын
Nothing that is said is real. The camerlengo must be a cardinal, he cannot be a priest; the nine days mentioned are not those of the "vacant see" but those of the pope's funeral; there are no "preferiti", there is no procession with the pope around the obelisk in Saint Peter's Square. Everything is a mess.
@fibeltek1328 Жыл бұрын
@@ciatrohere was a procession with the body of John Paul II across St. Peter square, when transfereed m to St. Peter, for the public goodbye.
@ciatro Жыл бұрын
@@fibeltek1328 No, in reality this first procession to transfer the body of the Pope is carried out from the Pauline library and crosses Saint Peter's Square only on one side, it does not go around the obelisk, and heads of state do not attend, as is the case at the funeral, but only the faithful who are in the square at that moment. There are many videos of that transfer of John Paul II.
@rivenoak Жыл бұрын
for the plot of novel and movie the _camerlengo_ cannot attend conclave among the cardinals, but it is an awful idea still.
@andrenewcomb3708 Жыл бұрын
Could it be that carnal knowledge claims immortality and there is disappointment yet again?
@jarrodmackie Жыл бұрын
Why did they remove the mitre when in a real pope's funeral they would not remove the mitre when the coffin is sealed.
@tenantjames2967 Жыл бұрын
This scene made me cry 😢
@mblitch9 ай бұрын
LOL
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 Жыл бұрын
When is he named as Pius? If so though he would be Pius XIII
@flaviopisaniello20042 жыл бұрын
Who interpreting Pope Pius?
@MagronesBR22 жыл бұрын
Olavo de Carvalho
@DriDriSTAR2 Жыл бұрын
@@MagronesBR2 no
@pasqualeguarino624 Жыл бұрын
1:21 wow una processione allucinante 😨😨😨😨
@ciatro Жыл бұрын
E falsa.
@pasqualeguarino624 Жыл бұрын
Anche se e tutto uno spettacolo i produttori hanno fatto tutto eccellente.
@pasqualeguarino624 Жыл бұрын
Ma qualcuno mi saprebbe dire chi e il papa morto
@fusemalaysia8402 жыл бұрын
the chair not really been actually sitting till now....pretty much like true story...
@zacharyanderson37913 ай бұрын
They would never, ever officially endorse any individual as a "preferite", that title does not exist. To do so would undermine the entire selection process. There has never been a system for declaring heirs apparent to the throne of saint Peter. The closest thing is the status of "papabile" which means that person is considered qualified for the job. However that is an unnoficial status bestowed by commentators and not jn any way recognized in any real capacity.
@BooBop19876 ай бұрын
That is truly Otto 1!
@Gingerbred_Hed2 ай бұрын
Why destroy the ring? Was he sauron or something?
@peterbrungardt54346 күн бұрын
Tradition has it that the ring was destroyed back in the day to prevent someone from impersonating the Pope since the ring acted as a seal.
@nasigorengpecelesteh1506 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@snuggles033 ай бұрын
what’s the move called?
@benmcdonough8996Ай бұрын
Angels and demons, it’s in the title
@RAZHOLYWATERАй бұрын
😭 IRISH CASTOROIL RIDGEWAY😭
@seandenzelrhymer7606 ай бұрын
Even nwec ripped my art
@huahuynh8565 Жыл бұрын
Xin chúa ban cho linh hồn đức giáo hoàng beneditto 16 lên thẳng cùng với chúa luôn chúa ơi amen amen amen nhưng xin đừng theo y con nhưng hãy theo y chúa đến muôn đời amen amen amen amen
Papish nonsense , the worship of men, angles , the dead is idolitory at its worse
@edvardzv5660 Жыл бұрын
Reading the books of the New Testament, we probably asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years? The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. In this world, the great fertility of atheism can be explained by the fact that there is no main opponent of critics of the Bible - the Church. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist. Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on KZbin. The video reveals the prophecy of the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the End of the World. Watching this video will give hope to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. Click on my name to watch the video (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included).
@huahuynh8565 Жыл бұрын
Xin chúa ban cho tât ca các linh hôn các đức giáo hoàng lên thẳng cùng với chúa luôn chúa ơi amen amen amen nhưng xin đừng theo y con nhưng hãy theo y chúa đến muôn đời amen amen amen amen
@ItsMrsWeingart2 жыл бұрын
Yaldoboathe worshippers, all.
@rogerioaraujo5001 Жыл бұрын
no one is worshiping a dead man, but paying homage of honor to the head of God's church, Christ's ambassador on earth, and if he is a saint, what's the problem in worshiping him? Christ gave the keys to Peter and he to his successors. In the bible there is a passage in which the PAPADO is INSTITUTED by God. God wants us to ask for the intercession of the saints.
@Skibidivm_LatrinaeАй бұрын
average Gnosis fan 😂😂😂
@johnrees Жыл бұрын
Bye bye everyone and hurry up with the bloody lid i`m getting cold.
@annahanchen5211 Жыл бұрын
The dead Satan looke cute
@huahuynh8565 Жыл бұрын
Xin chúa ban cho tât ca các linh hôn các đức hồng y khắp nơi trên thế giới lên thẳng cùng với chúa luôn chúa ơi amen amen amen nhưng xin đừng theo y con nhưng hãy theo y chúa đến muôn đời amen amen amen amen