ANI F160 V FLG5 Devilbiss SGK 600BV For Clear Coat Lacquer

A little comparison between the ANI F160 1.3 and the Devilbiss FLG5, SGK 600 1.3, I've tried to keep everything the same as possible except the gun, any questions just ask, Cheers
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[@tamirg3963]

Another great insight, Pete! Thank you.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thanks Tamir 👍

[@sparky1543]

Great vid once again Pete. Got an flg5 in october, just need to find something to spray now. May get an old tank to practice on, keep up the great work.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thanks Ian, yeah, an old tank or similar will get you going, plenty of practice really does pay dividends, very good guns the FLG5, made better now they do the 1.3 tip, cheers

[@dujevideka1230]

I've just got my f160, talked to Chris from spraygunsdirect when buying it and he just said to trust him and go with that instead of flg5. Boy was I surprised with the fan size, coming from r160. Dropped it on the first day and bent the fan adjustment knob but still works perfect. After doing 2 cars I don't see why I would ever need a better gun 😁

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Duje, Its a great gun especially at the price they are, I've had the FLG5 for a fair few years but it really was put into the shadows by the F160, I know what you mean about the R160 and F160, really shows the difference between a full size and mini gun, cheers for the comments 👍

[@DevilDutchMan]

Hey Pete! Great video! I am using the R160 and the FLG 5 for relatively small parts. The FLG is set up for primer, But now I want to do a respray on my VW beetle so I want a full size gun for the job. Would you recommend to get a 1.3 or 1.4 tip for the FLG, or would buying a 2nd full size gun like the F160 be a better idea? And could you also do a vid on the compressor you use?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Jorik, i did a video on my two compressors being linked together so it may be worth looking at that, if you already have an FLG5 i would just get a 1.3 tip for it if you are doing base and clear or 1.4 if it's direct gloss 2k paint or the 1.4 if you're painting in warm conditions. If you really fancy buying another gun I would definitely recommend the F160 in 1.3 as a base and particularly clear gun

[@JohnWD40TC02]

Nice comparison Pete, I like the FLG5 I have 2 of them with all the different tip sizes available and use one for primer and WOW primer and the other was being used for base until I got my GTI Pro 1.2 with the TE10 which of course is better. I have to agree though that the finish you got is better with the F160, I think the reason is that the FLG is a bit slower so it looks like you have less clear on the tank with the FLG but as you mentioned with a bit of tweaking they would probably both give the same finish.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Yes, the FLG does put out less, although they were the same tip size the F160 does push it out faster, more air used, to be far I was very unfamiliar with both for clear, I had the FLG5 in 1.4 and 1.8 and only used it for primer, i then sold it to a mate who wanted it to do a commercial vehicle, he got the 1.3 tip but actually didn't use it in the end so i know have it back and have inherited the 1.3 as well, this was the first time using it in 1.3 for clear if i remember rightly, same with the F160 in 1.3, only a few times from memory, I've since used it a fair few times as i really enjoy it, it's not got the feel of a Pro lite or the finesse of the DV1 but for just over £100 it's a bargain

[@JohnWD40TC02]

Yeah both guns you used here are ideal for a hobby or first time painter to learn on as they are easy to setup and very reliable 👍

[@jwooktv]

Hi Pete love your content. Quick question. Which gun of the two lays clear the flattest easier? Im trying to achieve a mirror finish no texture at all. Thank you for your help always🙏🏼

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Jeremiah, of these two the ANI gives a flatter finish, you will always get some peel but using a better quality clear coat will make it easier to obtain a good finish, if you want it completely flat then flat and polish afterwards 👍

[@patrickpeterman8736]

Pete, thanks for the comparison video-I like your video,s- What is your usual spraying distance from the panel or object being painted"?? thanks again PATRICK.P

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thanks Patrick, it depends on a number of things particularly the gun but it's around 160 to 180mm, can sometimes be more or less but that's a reasonable average

[@patrickpeterman8736]

thank Pete much appreciated !!

[@peteshobbies5383]

Your welcome buddy 👍

[@jwooktv]

Hey there pete. Dug out my old flg5. Wanted to know what cups you can use? Noticed youre not using the giant 600ml it came with. Looking for a 400ml prefferably. Cheers

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Jeremiah, i have a 100ml cup that i got off ebay, Devilbiss make a 250ml pot and in Japan the Devilbiss Neptune comes with a 400ml aluminium pot with a plastic lid that fits, the 250ml pot is available from Sprayguns Direct and paintingtool_jp should be able to get you the 400ml one but it may not be viable as it may be expensive, sorry i cant give you links at the moment, I'm on a ship and the WiFi is horrendous 🙄

[@jwooktv]

@@peteshobbies5383 Ahhh. Thanks pete. Enjoy the ride my man😎🤙🏼

[@vehiclesprayerssociety]

😍😍😍😍😍

[@bradouellette6558]

Does ANI sell various size nozzles / needles and air caps separately for the 160 , if so I haven’t found them yet

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Brad, yes they do, here's the link, they are at the bottom of the page,cheers 👍 www.spraygunsdirect.co.uk/index.php/ani-full-sized-conventional-gravity-spraygun.html#sthash.2PFZum2S.dpbs

[@fishwhisperer101]

How does the FLG5 compare to the Kiwami W50. I have an LPH50 1.0 tip that does a great job but it's pretty slow.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, well, that's a comparison I've never been asked before. They are quite different on every level, obviously size but also build, the FLG5 is more agricultural in build and feel. Performance wise, the W50 atomises finer with a similar pattern but with less material drawn through. The LPH50 is a great little gun, same size as the W50, but it is normally for smaller jobs that require precision rather than speed.

[@gregm9506]

Hi Pete. Do you have a 1.4mm tip for these 2 guns. If so, which has the bigger fan. I'm going to be spraying a fuel tanker lorry soon, I have an FLG5 but the fan isn't the biggest. I'm thinking a whole tanker is going to take a long time with it so I'm after a gun with a bigger fan. The A.N.I - F160, Devilbiss GPI and Devilbiss GTI Pro Lite are being considered. I will be spraying 2k direct gloss.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Greg, I have a 1.4mm tip for the FLG5 but only 1.3 and 1.8 for the F160, the F160 in 1.3 has a bigger fan than the FLG5 in 1.4 for sure, it's a real canon, it's available in 1.4 as well which would probably be better for direct gloss and a bit faster too, never used a GPI but have Gti Pro Lite but think the 1.4 F160 would put more out than the TE20 1.4 combination, cheers 👍

[@gregm9506]

@@peteshobbies5383 Thanks Pete, Is the F160 easy to run. Reading online it says it's only 7.77cfm but some reviews have contradicted that saying it requires alot of air. My compressor runs the FLG5 fine at 9.8cfm. Would you say the F160 is harder to run than the FLG5.

[@peteshobbies5383]

@@gregm9506 Hi Greg, I'm not sure where manufacturers get there figures from, bit like MPG figures i guess but yes, the F160 does seem to use more air, not loads, probably around 15% more than a FLG5, I haven't tested it but I'm sure it uses more, presumably that how it gets more fluid out the same size tip. If funds allow it may be worth buying another small compressor and linking them up and have them both running together, that's what i do if i need loads of air

[@mreightytwenty8709]

Mate pip at the post...lol I like my FLG mate . I haven't tried a F160

[@peteshobbies5383]

They are both great gun's, and as you will know it's quite a personal thing as to what people prefer but i was really surprised at the difference between the two in the way they sprayed, the F160 was a cannon, the results were pretty much neck and neck just quite different the way they go about it, cheers

[@rikujkoivisto]

Hi Pete! You just mention, that ANI F160 would not be very reliable gun. Why not? Is there something that may brake, or leak more easy than expensive guns..? I`ve been thinking this F160 to primer.. Devilbiss GPG is one of my option. air consumption is 165L/min. Suite well for me. Thank you for everything, lol..!

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Riku, the F160 is a reliable gun, I was comparing it to the Devilbiss FLG5 which has a more simple front aircap. The ANI has a few sealing rings and washers on the aircap, the FLG is just a friction seal so there's nothing to go wrong or wear so my thinking is the ANI will not last as long simply because it has more to go wrong. The F160 1.9 is a great high build primer gun, according to ANI it uses 220lt min of air which is reasonably for a full size gun

[@mreightytwenty8709]

Mate me again from NZ. Can you tell me. Iam thinking of upgrading my ANI R 150 up to the newer 160. Is there alot of difference between them. I know my 150 has not got a good fan adjustment from small to large fan and in between. Can you tell me some pros with the 160. Cheers

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi mate, they spray exactly the same, has your R150 got 2 or 4 air holes in the air horns?, reason i ask is the pre 2019 R150 had 2 holes, then they went to 4 on the R150, the R160 has 4, so, if your R150 has 4 holes it will spray the same as the R160, if your R150 has 2 holes you will get a much bigger fan with the R160, hope that makes sense 😉

[@peteshobbies5383]

As to fan adjustment they are still pretty bad compared to most, as you say, there's not much range of adjustment and that hasn't changed really

[@mreightytwenty8709]

@@peteshobbies5383 Mate just checked my air horn has 4 holes...all good. Thanks again

[@arvizu619]

Which one do you think is better for silver metallic paint jobs? Im trying not to get as much striping and mottle

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Buddy, they will both cover silvers without problems. The way to avoid mottled and tiger striped work is more about the application process than the gun. You shouldn't have problems with either

[@arvizu619]

@@peteshobbies5383 thanks for the reply, maybe I should of phrased my question better. Which one you think atomizes the material better? Im trying to decide which gun to get rid of. I have the FLG5 in 1.4 and the F160 in 1.3. Trying to keep one of them thats more suited and atomizes base coats better

[@peteshobbies5383]

@arvizu619 I think I said in the video that the F160 is a clear winner for basecoat or clear coats. It is a better gun for sure

[@fernandosaldana3665]

Hey pete! Have you try the flg5 at 35 psi with clearcoat? That thing lay glass at that pressure.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Fernando, yes, I've tried it at various pressures but haven't really needed to go above 29psi. I have had a FLG5 for 5 years and was really happy with it but after using the F160 I prefer the ANI, the finish is as good with both but i really like the big fan on the F160 so prefer to use that, i still use the FLG5 when a bigger fan isn't needed

[@fernandosaldana3665]

@@peteshobbies5383 i have the old f150 in 1.7 for primer and 1.2 for thin wet on wet do you think the 160 is an upgrade? I'm between f160 and the slim kombat for wet on wet or sealer

[@peteshobbies5383]

I can't say to be honest, I've only ever used a F160 which I have in 1.3, 1.9 and 2.5 but never a F150, if the R160 over the R150 is anything to go by they spray the same. I have recently got a Slim Kombat in 1.3 and 1.7, I'm am quite impressed with them but they are twice the price of the ANI and don't give a better finish, they are a lot lighter though if your using them for a long time

[@fernandosaldana3665]

@@peteshobbies5383 got it thanks for your time pete!

[@peteshobbies5383]

No worries buddy 👍

[@mreightytwenty8709]

Mate can you tell me....is the fan on the ANI R 160 1.2 ....bigger or smaller than the FLG 5 1.2 ....?. Thanks

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Ya, I'm not sure, from memory I would say the FLG5 is slightly bigger , it's a 1.3 as opposed to a 1.2, I'll have a quick run tomorrow with some thinners, not a true test i know buy should be fine for a quick comparison

[@peteshobbies5383]

I'll let you know tomorrow, it's bed time here 😂😂

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mate, the FLG 5 fan was 215mm , the R160 was 205mm so slightly smaller but not much in it, 1.3 in the FLG and 1.2 in the R160, cheers 👍

[@endlesstwisties]

I just received my FLG5 but didn't used it yet. Seeing this i realized i threw away 200$ . My 10$ i use for 2 years has exactly the same finish

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi, I think the FLG5 on it's own is a good value for money gun, it sprays well and will last years so i don't think you have thrown your money away it's just when pitted against the ANI F160 it really is shown up in most respects, i had an FLG5 for years and was very happy with it, it was only when i started this youtube channel that i started doing back to back tests, everything the same but the gun, then you do notice the difference, thanks for watching 👍

[@endlesstwisties]

@@peteshobbies5383 nice video and good informations. My target was to get some better finish close to factory without polishing. I guess i can't hope at that now

[@peteshobbies5383]

@@endlesstwisties The FLG5 can still give a excellent finish it just much slower as the fan is quite small and the amount of fluid is less

[@endlesstwisties]

@@peteshobbies5383 thanks. I think i will like the smaller fan . My actual gun has the fan as big as half of the bumper. I will try it in few days and see how it goes

[@peteshobbies5383]

@@endlesstwisties Normally the problem with cheap $10 spray guns is the pattern is very uneven which makes it harder to get a good even finish, you may have been lucky and got a good one but most are not so i think you will find the FLG5 much better, if a smaller fan is better for you then you will love it, cheers 👍

[@Supercarlsunday]

I have a ANI r150 and its started spraying inconsistent. Striped and cleaned it several times. Its been in the gun wash machine so had a good clean. Can not find the problem. Any ideas? Many thanks👍

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi mate, When you say inconsistently how do you mean, the pattern ? Or is it pulsing? , are there any bubbles in the pot?

[@Supercarlsunday]

@@peteshobbies5383 Hi yes exactly that pulsing with bubbles in the pot.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Have you replaced the small white nylon seal on the back of the tip?

[@Supercarlsunday]

@@peteshobbies5383 No, I was not sure if I could get parts for the gun. Have you any idea where I could get this? Many thanks.

[@peteshobbies5383]

That's will be all you need to change, give sprayguns direct a ring, they do a pack of 10 seals and a little applicator for around £5, or a complete service kit for around £9 but you only need to change the front seal, it's easy and cheap 😀

[@bigjase6481]

What compressor size are you running?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Jason, it's actually two compressors linked together although only 1 is running, so the total tank capacity is 140 Litres, each compressor puts out 14.5 Cfm, cheers

[@EChunter]

What do you think of the f160 for base and primer ?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mark, it's very good, i use the 1.3 for base and the 1.9 for HB primer, it's a really versatile gun and you can buy tip sets for a reasonable price so, as long as you clean it well you can cover most things with the same gun

[@EChunter]

@@peteshobbies5383 thanks for the info , just received my f160 and am looking to add the larger tip size , any idea what a good price is for the tip kits? I'm I'm the us and not finding much . Thanks again .

[@peteshobbies5383]

@@EChunter these ship to the US spraygunsdirect.co.uk/product/ani-f150-plus-s-nozzle-needle-fluid-tip-set-5/

[@ivanivanov-rc2kv]

Hi! What better for primer paint - FLG 5 or Ani F160 Plus ? Thanks

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Ivan, I use the ANI F160 1.9 for high build primer, i find it much better than the FLG5 in 1.8, cheers 👍

[@ivanivanov-rc2kv]

@@peteshobbies5383 Please, tell me what is the difference between them?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Below is my review of each gun for primer, the F160 is better in most respects , it has a better bigger fan so can really put material out if you want, it also a bit cheaper kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4bEcnWZirSpqZo kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3vMpoZraLeYqtk

[@ivanivanov-rc2kv]

@@peteshobbies5383 Ok, thank you!

[@peteshobbies5383]

@ivan ivanov Your welcome 👍

[@ZUKE12345671]

Over all which of these uses the most air ??

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Alan, they are more or less the same, I've given you a link in the other comment you left 👍

[@ZUKE12345671]

@@peteshobbies5383 Thanks Pete...great info for us chaps having a go in the garage !! Love the channel mate !!

[@peteshobbies5383]

@@ZUKE12345671 That's the idea of the channel really, just showing you can get pretty good results in your garage in your spare time, appreciate the comments mate, cheers 👍

[@ZUKE12345671]

@@peteshobbies5383 On facebook there is a group for painters, mainly professionals , and I ask a few questions on there. But these guys have massive compressors and some of them, like the gunman, runs their guns at 3bar.. my compressor is only 2hp ..so maybe only 4.4 - 5 free air delivery. I'm in the throws of respraying my 1952 Riley..which is in celly at the moment. Painted by me owwww 18years ago. Gona do it in 2k this time though. I bought the ANI 160Q midi gun but not at the stage of putting gloss down yet. Not sure if the gun would be big enough to do single panels, wing, door etc. And Its hard to find out on the sprayer site how long I will get using an ANI 160 or a FLG5. Seems about 15-20 seconds before the comp' kicks back on...and that may well be enough??? So yes , you vids have been really handy for me and answered a lot of un-answered questions !! Thanks Angain Pete !

[@peteshobbies5383]

@@ZUKE12345671 Hi Alan, I run my R160 for clearcoat, which would have a similar viscosity as 2k direct gloss, at 3 bar, however the pressure and air consumption are separate things, as you say, the CFM of a compressor is the most important part as its the output, then it's the tank size, what size tank does yours have?

[@niamakhtar2234]

Sayinara.