Was OLD Siege Actually Good???

[@Anifex-Iv]

do you guys and gals think old siege is better or worse?

[@WepWepPew]

Better by far

[@marcsambault5085]

old siege was better 100%

[@Tappy1217]

So much better

[@lostinmymatrix]

better

[@pixeldonky]

better

[@PoodlyPoosh]

Old lighting looked 10x more aesthetic and realistic

[@Acesifu]

Frfr

[@CrashGeorgeacoot]

Yes but it made the game harder in general

[@PoodlyPoosh]

@@CrashGeorgeacoot Yes that's the point, it was meant to feel scary, gritty and realistic for the selling point that was Tactical ''REALISM''

[@nedflandersblender]

@@CrashGeorgeacootharder game, but at least it doesn’t look like cod mobile

[@xavis.r6]

@@PoodlyPooshThat was great, but for esports it was bad cause the game was harder to run, higher fps was harder to achieve

[@yaboyphoenix1528]

Unpopular opinion, old graphics looked better, it actually had ambience, depth, and realistic lighting. Yeah maybe it was inconvenient at times but it looked great. They changed it to make everything look the same, so certain places weren’t 1 sided from let’s say the sun blinding you or something. Granted, it had its flaws, like some corners or spaces were pitch black, but if that got fixed I’d prefer having the old lighting back. Also Old Oregon was better than new Oregon, especially with old lighting. Won’t change my mind on that

[@Zebrahhh]

It’s popular imo. I miss the old lighting.. and most everything else that ubi in their infinite wisdom have removed

[@Luka-vl3wj]

Old maps all together were better than new maps and the reworks. The reworks are trash, new maps are trash.

[@ali-grizzly]

Ubisoft 😡😡😡

[@Zayyy900]

Remember when you had 2 reinforcements per player? Setting up site with randoms was a nightmare

[@lusor_lucky4966]

Plus it took like twice the time to set up a reinforcement

[@sluggernott]

I sure do. If you didn't load in with a 5 stack, it was an utter gamble on whether your randos would cooperate with you at all. That's if the didn't kill your entire team with a nitro cell during prep phase.

[@sorrcey]

i will say roaming on the old maps was some of the most fun ive ever had in siege the gun fights were always SUPER intense and flanks had to be timed perfect, roam clearing used to be a mandatory step in ranked

[@sorrcey]

also i'll add who remembers Alternating att/def every second round this made the attacker sided maps issue not as prevalent

[@DipShPit1]

The part you left out, was that old siege was fun

[@riddick674]

Exactly

[@izaqphillis6767]

Old siege was peak, but I feel like people are blinded by nostalgia and hate on newer siege too much

[@viii2137]

I just miss using my twitch drone on kapkans in the prep phase😂

[@vegasnotthecity]

you compared the wrong lighting lol, new siege is ugly, bland, and nothing feels alive anymore. i used to actually feel like i was at the locations. also I HATE THEM for removing THUNT AND BARLET. old old siege was worse than siege now, but siege when champ meant something and u could see everyone's stats and the light was still somewhat cinematic, that was the BEST siege.

[@famouzamir4183]

games been out for 9 years champ got released y4s3 so after 5 years it won’t be fun for some people but does who are newer actually find enjoyment in pushing for champ lmao and new lighting is way better

[@vegasnotthecity]

@@famouzamir4183 nobody that played with old champ thinks its fun to grind for new champ unless they make money playing the game lmao. tell me, what is the point of a ranked system if you play the same rank the entire way through? if I make it to champ when in champ elo the entire season, what does that make me? a super champ? lmfao.

[@famouzamir4183]

@@vegasnotthecity clearly fraqger does if he still plays and post 😭

[@sxckooo]

the new lighting is so you can actually see people lol

[@Cursedbloo]

The first thing I think of when old siege is bullet holes

[@EliEatsAnts]

For some reason you just using halo music in your videos brings me so much joy. The songs are such bangers

[@fanbat]

Para Bellum was the final season of "Old Siege". Grim Sky was where the first original map received a full on rework (more of a complete rebuild than a rework), and it slowly began its decline there at Y3S3, and Wind Bastion offered some hope for the game to maintain itself, but Burn Horizon marked the beginning of the Acog Exodus, leading to the horrible 1.5x meta which plagued the game for far too long.

[@SgtRyansPrivates]

Both new and old have there ups and downs in my opinion. I like both. I just wish they’d bring back old pre-rework maps

[@WubzZz-]

bro they could make it its own casual playlist and call it OG or 1.0 playlist. Including night maps and like you mentioned pre-rework maps. Yo that would be 🔥

[@SgtRyansPrivates]

@@WubzZz- ya that would be amazing if they did that

[@remuvs]

I don't believe old Siege was "better". As much as people may dunk on current Siege, it's worth considering that their perception of Siege's golden era is more the feeling of the game being fresh and interesting rather than being an actually better version. People have experienced basically everything at this point and it just isn't a new experience anymore- the game is 9 years old after all. There were big issues with functionality and balance. It was much worse with issues like: - defenders not sharing reinforcements - Hibana's kairos not always detonating - hit reg being consistently worse - old lean enabling unreactable "Beaulo peeking" - bullet hole peeking - crouch/lean spam and dropshotting making gunfights mickey - Maps like Fortress and Tower being in the ranked pool - While the lighting and night maps looked nicer, it made it hard to see enemies at the time- not great for a competitive shooter - Smurfing was also a much bigger issue - Rage DDoS attacks in ranked being super common

[@jishwagent]

I’ve owned the game since launch but never got heavily into until operation white noise, I still play a game or 2 a day since and I still love the game it’s the only multiplayer game I play, it’s almost just comfort food at this point, used to play it every day with my brother we bonded a lot over siege

[@rxllvh]

I never played old siege but I heard bullet holes were horrible.

[@ThomasPatrickIV]

Yea. Me to

[@ghosttheripper8656]

A lot of people didn’t like them, but you could shoot a pistol shot through a whole and get the craziest pixel on any map, even melee the wall was great. Man the good times

[@Zebrahhh]

@@ThomasPatrickIVyep, it was all so much better

[@oNextq]

Old siege had its pros and cons just like New Siege there are good features to every era of R6 if they were to just port the game back to the exact old version right now the game would probably die within a month and fall off a cliff there’s so many things people take for granted now with current siege and have a nostalgia bias. A lot of people just couldn’t keep up with the inflation of the game and they got left behind but to keep a live service game going that’s a required sacrifice

[@sykrotima9528]

Different aspects and points of the past were nearly 9/10 times better than current siege.

[@chickynugs6884]

Big boy anifex uploaded. I knew to come when the ground shook

[@yung-mizukage1109]

I started playing Siege a few months before operation health and noticed HUGE differences between the two, but how “old” we talkin. Beta - Operation Health? or Beta - Year 3

[@sluggernott]

To me, "ole siege" ended when they released Lion and Finka, so yeah, Y3. Finka's ability really crossed that line between realism and fantasy tactics. I also remember thinking how corny Dokkaebi was when she came out because who tf carries a phone around in combat situations? I started making fun of the game at that point haha

[@verbatim1584]

they should bring t hunts back because i miss them and you could also play them offline. My internet likes to go out and i could at least still play siege offline and keep my aim good and not rusty, but now if your offline for siege boom you can literally only do the fucking tutorial like dude i’m diamond not level 1

[@goatified2x]

Why tf they take it out lol

[@WubzZz-]

i think they took it out to promote the new training playlist (shooting range, map training, versus ai) which i think was dumb. Thunt already was a great way to learn maps and practice aim. If they would've just added the shooting range and keep THunt the training playlist would've been perfect.

[@JaeGroove]

Long live the White Van glitches 🙏🏾

[@cerjmedia]

Client Side Debris and Dead bodies were the worst. I know some people mess dead bodies and a part of me does too but man being put at an unfair advantage through no fault of your own is the worst

[@CowchDot]

i cant recover from the fact that dead bodies stayed on the map and I keep mistaking a player for a dead body

[@Exvinnittyy-CC]

Old siege glazers: 👎 New siege glazers: 👎 Siege enjoyers: 🗿.

[@Thomas_Angelo]

Siege sufferers: 💪👑🗿🔥

[@sluggernott]

I think I liked old siege more because they were making an attempt at tactical realism. I liked T-Hunt, there werent 80+ operators, so it was a big deal to get new ones. The season pass was nice and I liked the old ranked system. It was definitely jankier and it was definitely toxic back then too. A lot of people forget about friendly fire literally just ruining your experience before they redid that entire reverse friendly fire system. I started when Cav and Capitao were brand new, so early 2016, I think? I was on console then. I was terrible at first. But I liked the old ambience of the game. I LOVED the loading screen and the pre-menu/menu soundtracks. A lot of it is nostalgic. Now, I play on PC. Just started up again recently and the game is still quite fun, but it feels a little too focused on e-sports imo. Kind of feel like it's lost that touch that made it special. Bomb is my least fav game mode, too and the game is hyper-focused on that as the primary mode now. I do like the training stuff they added, but that's more just tools for the comp scene. I like to play it casually (mainly because im pretty mid at it and I like to play a lot of different games). Cheating can be BRUTAL in this game and it sucks the fun out VERY quickly.

[@sorrcey]

i liked back in old siege when attackers had the BEST guns by far and it was actually terrifying to peek them (unless you were jager) made the game a lot more punishing on defense

[@kurtis5567]

SMG11 acog. MP7 acog. Your point is invalid

[@sc4rlet113]

@@kurtis5567 ur absolutely right idk what this guy is smoking

[@sorrcey]

@@kurtis5567 these guns were for sure amazing but back in the day SO many people complained that Jager had an AR because AR's were just superior back then. people genuinely hated jager for his gun

[@oqut]

when he played the loading screen i dead ahh teared up a lil

[@RefRed_King]

2019 was the best year. Game was smooth, good lighting.

[@bebop-lj7yv]

That old school loading screen sent me back in fucken time

[@Thehoddieguy1]

We just had operation health it was called new blood

[@DrBossSauce]

Lets not forget attacker repick during the prep phase

[@joltagezjoltz7107]

There has always been xim and DDOS used to go crazy… I feel like someone would get booted every other match in plat lobbies

[@parmesancheez6087]

im ngl this is the first video of yours ive seen in like 2 and a half years

[@theatheist546]

My favorite parts and what I miss most of when seige first came out it was so much more just having fun doing bulkshit strats and it wasn't as serious and barely any toxic players (atleast compares to today) me and the homes would still try to win and wanna rank up but it was just way more chill and silly stupid shit we would do that is just not a thing in this game anymore which is unfortunate. Also plane and house on ranked and having hostage and secure area on ranked I miss so much too.

[@oskarnuuk2039]

In old siege both operators and maps had so many flaws, glitches and was so unbalanced, that it made old Siege more fun to play. Where as now the game is more balanced with each utility operator having some sort of counter. Which makes the game more fair, hard and competitive, which is something since I’ve gotten older enjoy a lot about new siege. I’m a console player, so I’ve never had to deal with hackers, so that doesn’t influence my opinions

[@Cologne_Trooper]

He in fact did not que the outro music 😆

[@milanpostma7787]

you forgot the invisible caveira trick which was then patched and then it came back two patches later

[@lilreaper696]

So no one remembers montagne getting head shots through his fully deployed shield

[@JeffrenRoqueFuentes]

Such an amazing video!

[@stilty1080]

U look at it as the best game for esports etc. But I definitely prefer siege back in the days. It felt more dark and serious then rn wit them flashy rainbow outfits

[@DipShPit1]

I love ya anifex, but I can onky agree with you on buying attachments, and ranked 2.0 All the issues, and bugs are what made siege unique and what made all of us truly love the game, to the point that even now when anything fun is immediately removed by Ubi, we still play it

[@copperbeta]

I think that TheRussianBadger is doing much better even though he split from siege. Badger got all of his following from Siege then understandably jumped ship from the game because he wanted a challenge in content creation. Then AP1 is just gone he just dipped after his surgery it felt like.

[@ShervinML-x3v]

I wish they added 'Linear' as a response curve (controller rotation) in the settings. I personally hop back and forth between R6 and apex legends and on apex I have it set on linear, so it always feels slower to be on updated as a response curve even if the description describes it as 'a more consistent movement' like it's linear, but it's not because in that case every little movement of your thumb on the right stick would create larger movements, hence the linear progression through the sens and not having it exponential like on 'classic' controller rotation

[@ALI.x]

Just use classic, use a lower right stick deadzone (I use 0) and use a high sens with lower ads sens.

[@ShervinML-x3v]

@@ALI.x now that, that is kinda brilliant... Just gotta buy me a hall effect joystick and I'm set. Thank You.

[@ALI.x]

@@ShervinML-x3v oh wow, you actually like it? I use 85vert, 100hz, 1.0x at 20 and 2.5x at 31. Don't expect you to use it but it's what works for me. Been using it for like a decade now.

[@ALI.x]

​@@ShervinML-x3v damn I replied but it got removed for some reason. I was gonna say I'm surprised it actually worked for you. I use 85 vert 100 hrz and 20 and 31 for ads. Don't expect you to use it but I've been using it for like a decade, it's what works for me.

[@tykewarwick9279]

Ahhhh yes buying attachments for every game I miss it 😂

[@ozalduin4383]

The reason I and probably many say old siege was better (other than visuals its way damn better xd) because siege is not siege anymore its just turning into valorant or a generic shooter bit by bit. Siege had character is was grounded and really realistic-tactical that was one and only on the market. Now only thing when I think about siege is jiggle peek destruction here and there and ads with horrible hipfire. They slapped the game each time to make it simpler and "easier". In my opinion grenade thing that shows you where its landing or going killed the skill requirement for it which is a bad thing. I love how CS gave a chart for your crosshair to make your own line up and use it that way not straight up hold your hand. Ragdolls dissappearing when dying is something kinda killed my joy as well. For both immersion and ragdolls were fun. "but people were hiding in them!" just make them collidable or move them like other props on the ground or simple make those bodies get solid and cannot move in them. Back lighting did the same thing for me as well. I know there were blending cosmetics for characters etc but this mostly got this much reaction because people don't fucking check their corners and then whine about they got killed from an hiding spot or they were playing while they had one of their eyes on something else. I never EVER remember ONCE a time that I said god dammit that guy is perfectly blending in with their wall or back or whatever. These updates got the game more and more linear each update for me which is not something ALWAYS bad if you know how to make it work like Counter Strike. But this game is NOT that. At least wasn't. I played until like previous season (since around skull rain and dust line) and that was my end for siege and I had enough of it for these and other similar reasons.

[@potatoaim56]

You forgot the secure area/ hostage rank now it's just bomb

[@TwilightZoneMusic03]

T Hunt went so hard

[@Mixs3zZ]

Siege is one of the few games where realism is better than stylistic art

[@Zermityy]

Operation health with the infinite doc stims and shooting your gun while your shield is still up with blitz Man U just had to be there😩

[@malikjackson9385]

That was a bar 😭

[@noahwatson366]

love you daddy anifex

[@braydongoldstone]

wsh anifex lovve the content

[@C4-_-Bot]

Just got the Anifex charm on twitch cant wait to use it in f2

[@EggsSalami-ys9os]

Ubisoft doesn’t wanna pay for the rights for guns it’s why we don’t get new guns often.

[@papanate2141]

Most of the "cons" shoulda been in the pros minus the glitches and bugs id actually start playing r6 again if they reverted it back to what it was 5-7 years ago

[@adamclockwork486]

I can say I agree with certain statement's while disagreeing with a few, and I think this can also go with your Meta videos too which I can say definitely were a problem while others I just felt like people complained because sooner or later we kind of figured things will change/Ubi would make counter measures to certain problems. Now Old Siege was fine to me but I can say too it wasn't all to perfect, and I feel like by the time Wind Bastion came out did things slowly started spiraling out of control with a start where things just got worse overall getting closer to Newer Siege. I can say Old Siege had its places to be good while slowly leaking the problems it didn't have to Newer Siege but Ubi higher ups clearly had a format they were following just to clearly throw it out that format to a newer one in mind. I my thought process we do need a Siege 2 bringing back old idea's that people love from old siege while trying to keep a good freshness/good idea's that players did like from Newer Siege to make Siege 2 a better game. Yet we know that's not happening but there is hope if Ubisoft ends up selling Siege to a different company, and that's where I wish to leave off a question for everyone if Ubisoft did sell Siege to a different company which company should it be? For me I believe Dice needs more/better games, and I believe they can work around with Siege but I still have my doubts too because its EA.

[@bubba5907]

I’m not going to lie to your brother. I wish I had the OC. I miss it all of it now. Feel like I’m playing a Fortnite rainbow six siege game.

[@bottomtext1358]

He forgot to mention skyscraper drum…

[@TurkishDid]

KZbin just recommended your channel to me today, and wow, I've only seen you on tiktok and you were kinda giving mean vibes, but you're actually a cool dude with nice content!

[@jacobprickett2282]

i forgot about the old loading screen

[@Kingdom_2810]

Honestly miss being able to press on someone’s profile and seeing the lvl and rank

[@JJ.Picasso]

Nah i really miss TK. Clutch or kick was absolutely classic and made the game raw. Unfortunately this happens to any new game, but as this game got older people started taking the game WAY TOO SERIOUS. People be tryharding like thier life depends on winning

[@atroxii-_-]

The old game was better everyone got into this game for realism now I feel like I’m playing valorant with all the operators

[@BarronBeard]

I’ve gotten mouse trapped on a default ps5 controller😂

[@rhadpenguin]

Operation health 2.0 likely will never happen. The game is Ubi's money maker and probably wouldn't let the devs take a season off, essentially, just to fix the game

[@Eddie-bn4oe]

Hi anifex i really love your videos

[@keris57]

Yo Anifex what are your controller setting you use (not just sens controller layout aswell)

[@joaoorban7728]

Old times, all people were stupid and doing stupid shit, all fun and games. Lighting was superb, wish i could be blinded just by looking outside plane😂

[@Clone666_]

Old siege had personality. Stuff like the old intro and the old operator icons and the old menu screen and all that gave this game so much personality that modern siege lacks. Boring menus, Boring operator icons, old siege was more like an experience, now its just some broken, cheater-infested game. The menus of old siege felt like they fit in with the gameplay, and added to the experience, same with the intro, but now the menus are just "Go here to play game" they feel completely detached from the gameplay.

[@spadedturtle]

cooking grenades not mentioned 🤔

[@TheBagMan0]

game looked way better imo. bullet holes were horrific but shields were actually killable. But bro old pistols were terrible to use

[@Gamermonk999]

Only this early to things because of anxiety usually. This is new.EDIT: I FORGOT ABOUT BUYING ATTACHMENTS HOLY HELL.

[@coslorem6943]

Put the old siege maps back with the new operators, and see what that dose. (maybe not all of them) Old siege maps were way more interesting for attack.

[@renznews7445]

T-HUNT

[@ItsTheOfficialDH]

we need night maps again

[@frax9997]

the biggest point you've missed in this video is that old siege was way more fun. New siege is just a result of a set of nerfs to old siege. Gun nerfs, operator nerfs, movement nerfs, gadget nerfs, speed nerfs. Everything that was actually fun was nerfed to the ground.

[@grantmarsh327]

Old/New < PARABELLUM

[@Polo597-p3v]

Who does ur thumbs because they are 🔥

[@tentionseeker1555]

blud will not stop yapping about the old days (but he rice)

[@Wallin_117]

yes.

[@tannersmith7334]

Old siege more fun, new siege more competitive

[@Fireaxle]

year 3-4 was before it went bad

[@elthatishere2629]

Old siege is just better than old siege. only good things about old siege were rank 1.0 and the number of cheaters were smaller. Now im used to playing against Xim players with zero recoil. Back then, i used to shit on most controller players.

[@Zebrahhh]

Siege used to be fun with occasional toxicity. Now, just speaking up giving appropriate callouts (with appropriate volume) puts you at risk of getting yelled at or cursed out - I can handle it, but it’s pointless and just a sad reflection of the player base psyche atm.

[@myousic934]

Yoo this aint no short

[@Peteydapenguin]

I told it to poxonlox use thermite shotgun on lair outside breach I swear it’s good 👍

[@MrMrbobo46]

Bro Likes everything on New Siege 90% Players hate. old lighting looked better. Old gunplay felt better and the old Maps where litteraly 100x better Then the new ones

[@Thylegendslayer]

10:02 fuck that was loud😭

[@CalebColvin-j6t]

Can I get the keychain for my gun? Now pls

[@essuniar6]

honestly who cares about game being broken if it is actually fun to play

[@samhungover405]

sheesh u must be young. I liked the game when it was darker, when guns had recoil, etc

[@george2408]

It’s only improved over time for the console version of the game.

[@progdragon9218]

Either way, it's a billion times better than the bullshit we got today, thanks ubisoft

[@TomasGerhardusSmith]

Diamond since year 1 and beta player. Old siege was more fun and played way different. Niw recoil is easier and the gane is much faster paced. I best siege was year 3

[@redsunphoenix2456]

if i had a nickel for every non halo youtuber i watched who uses halo music for background music id oddly enough have 3 but i f*** wit i heavy

[@Randomkidwithbraces]

Whoa side r u o

[@ethansmith-f6p]

i never got to play night maps or t hunt :/

[@ahmedessack7330]

U forgot smurfing in old siege

[@seandobson2682]

fortress was in ranked

[@RvsN-TacO]

U did not cook with this one anifex.

[@Anifex-Iv]

I said old siege was better though 😭

[@nolife4218]

​@@Anifex-Iv but are u tryna say not having to play against cheaters every other game in a dog shit ranking system isn't eons better? like saying old siege was not 300% better then current siege is kinda crazy. not even talking from an opinion based stand point but just playability, all the cosmetics, lighting, weird animations or broken ops don't really matter if the game is still playable. maybe cause u play on console but the last two seasons on pc have to be the worst season this game has ever had. you would get a rage cheater every like 6 in 10 games, it was so bad that u could just sit afk and wait to see if your rage cheater beat their rage cheater.