Anna Khachiyan - Who Controls the Zeitgeist? | The Restoration Podcast 002

Anna Khachiyan is one of the most insightful cultural commentators I have come across. She is one half of the Red Scare Podcast duo, which I encourage you all to check out, and which people flock to for her piercing critiques of contemporary culture on topics ranging everywhere from feminism, to politics, to art.
It was refreshing to hear her perspective on the relations between the sexes, conservative art, and surprisingly, on Faith as well.
00:00 "Noticing"
08:00 False Consciousness in Activism and Islam
16:00 The Similarities Between Feminism and Antiracism
23:00 Friction and Frustration Between the Sexes
42:40 Coming to Faith
47:40 Fuzzy R*pe
58:00 Who Controls the Zeitgeist
1:04:50 The Russian Psyche
1:09:00 Can We Have Conservative Art?
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[@ArtVandelay99]

I found about Anna Khachiyan through this podcast and am so grateful both for being able to now look more closely into this very insightful lady's work, as well as to see that Ayan started her own podcast, which I was hoping for years she would. Having Douglas Murray as her first guest seems just about right, and that was a excellent first episode.

[@RestorationBulletin]

Thank you! I'm so glad you were introduced to Anna through watching this - she really is wonderful. Stick around for more.

[@gruweldaad]

I love how being in Ayaan’s presence forces people to be more serious because she doesn’t have time to waste.

[@matthewparlato5626]

Underrated comment. Great insight.

[@andrewt35]

I love that Ayaan chose to have Anna on. Never thought of those two ever meeting. This was great- thank you.

[@RestorationBulletin]

I'm glad you think so! I do want to have new conversations with people I haven't already spoken to who maybe have quite radically different perspectives from me. Luke will be conducting some interesting interviews in the coming weeks as well, so watch out for those too!

[@jackmaher4466]

I can't express how much I admire AHA.

[@marcelgerritsen4253]

Very interesting podcast! Thank you all!

[@roncinephile]

I *love* Anna when she ventures onto other people's podcasts. Great show, you got a new sub. edit: but what's with the blown out white levels. Get a video guy in to level the image out. We didn't just walk out of a dark room into daylight

[@Honkthentrumpets]

Makes that man, look like Sam Wise the White.

[@simgrmemaj8075]

blown out white levels? we should be so lucky. alas

[@sw8871]

Incredible meeting of two worlds. I've loved both Ayaan and Anna for years now. It's so interesting to see someone like Ayaan, with so much gravitas, cause Anna to be more serious and less trivial and provide answers that aren't so sardonic lol

[@ilcomendante]

Excellent 💜

[@dyardsale5475]

Anna looks so good.

[@NorthStrongSC]

Are you planning to upload these to spotify? I would love to listen there. Thanks for these first two episodes!

[@ross33668]

I love these ladies!

[@00Daddy]

Why??

[@ross33668]

@@00Daddy 🤤🍆Daddy! Because I do. Don't be rude

[@TwoHighways]

Love you Anna!!

[@davidbates9358]

Great conversation that reminds me of an older generations attempts to clarify the problematic nature of the human condition and modernity's increased alienation from the cosmic reality of life on earth. The first segment about noticing a 'false' consciousness hits the nail on the head so to speak, yet is it delivered with a false sense of problems that are only applicable to 'them?' That innate sense of I & otherness that develops into a necessary yet deceptive sense of us & them, in our group need to survive? One wonders whether such well educated people can even conceive of 'noticing' the entwined truths and falsehoods within every 'sight' associated word they think of, or think to contemplate the undeniable truth that you can name the objects you see around you with any other word you can possibly 'imagine' without altering the 'reality' of the object or what your eyes are actually seeing. Long story short, is our conditioned sense of consensus-reality, undeniably not reality? And is our taken for granted, talking-head mentality a detached and dissociated sense-of-reality? Please contemplate the reality-wise perspective of these aphoristic comments: The major problems in the world are the result of the difference between how nature works and the way people think. ― Gregory Bateson You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus. ― Mark Twain

[@Bookers88]

Microphone issues aside (we all suffer for fashion) I thought this was a really fantastic conversation. I think people who split from the dominant contemporary political ideology are often labelled as "reactionary" and while that may be fair, your work and conversations like this feel like a good way to counter that. Looking at the zeitgeist as it is, teasing out the threads of whats going. Why is it happening, is there an alternative, and what do we envision as a seperate and better way? It's simple to say that things are wrong, everyone believes that, even the campus protestors do. The hard part is setting sights on the true north and realigning in that direction. For me, personally, I've found a lot of that grounding moral framework in my faith. I think it's a good start, but I'm not sure it's enough. Also, as we have seen recently, there seems to be an extreme amount of pushback and controversy around taking a nonsecular/religious approach.

[@RestorationBulletin]

This was a lovely reflection to read, thank you. And I'm glad you have found a grounding moral framework in your faith. I am finding that too. There will always be pushback but I suppose we want to try to bring as many people on board as possible and maybe provide helpful suggestions on how to go about finding true north.

[@buddypng31]

Enjoying the interview. I read AHA's books when they released and lost touch with her. Glad to see she softened her view on christianity

[@deekshasarin8444]

Beautiful

[@davereesor4116]

Just at the 7 and 1/2 minute mark, and Ayaan is, correctly, pointing out that conservatives too often go along with the left's nomenclatures, and it is a mistake. I agree, and it is not a minor point. Rather than use the term progressive...who doesn't want progress, I use the word progressivist in the same pejorative sense that I use the word, elitist. I have also objected do the characterization of fascism as right-wing. I have emailed my objections to Niall Ferguson of the Hoover Institution's Goodfellows, a historian that I greatly admire. But to me, fascism sits squarely in the middle of the dogs breakfast of Marxist ideologies that hold that human rights are conferred by the state and the collective, whereas conservatives and the right wing of political and social thought... excluding right-wing extremists, hold that human rights are inherent and are to be affirmed and defended by the state. We need to stop ceding words and the language to those that want to destroy us.

[@ehhe4381]

regressivists

[@mukoraka]

I couldn't agree more, the term liberal has been hijacked by very narrow minded people to suppress openness of ideas. The same goes for progressive, if anything these people are regressive driving to put humans under totalitarian regime.

[@jackmaher4466]

@@ehhe4381 Saved me from typing.

[@jackmaher4466]

We need a new way to describe those who don't really have conservative values but are called far right. They share a few values but probably not a lot of them. I don't see how being for segregation automatically puts you in the same group who want free speech etc.

[@roncinephile]

Love the focus on language.

[@mukoraka]

excellent podcast, brilliant minds

[@arthur0227]

Loved Ayaan's interview with Jordan Peterson and her in general. But can we please fix the lighting in these podcasts? Otherwise these are great!

[@michaelfrails]

The audio is what matters here.

[@arthur0227]

@@michaelfrails Agree that's the main point, but they'll get more views and visibility if the production is better.

[@h.astley2113]

woah, not the summit I saw coming

[@pmzerbe]

My idea for Restoration after this talk: Restore human decency in relations between men and women. There are too many souls on this planet who were not conceived in love, but out of rape.

[@dale9724]

Yes, unclear nomenclature obfuscates debate and amps up polarization.

[@johnstewart7025]

I hear there is less friction between male employees and women bosses in Scandanavia because those countries are more egalitarian. There is less class hiearchy than in US. So a woman AND a male boss have less power than they would in the US which is a more hiearchical society. A woman boss would have much more power there and, thus, may encounter more sexism.

[@meshzzizk]

if i had to pick one central source of rot blocking meaningful progress and flourishing in american society, it is the fixation on minutia of race and gender-which are epiphenomena of economics and biology, respectively-while aggressively sidelining issues of class and labor. and these discursive trends are causally interrelated, because friction born of inequality is built in to modern political economy, and affluent liberals would rather respond to it by virtue signaling about identity issues than by paying higher taxes so poor people can go to the doctor and send their kids to college

[@snesleywipessqueegeeservices]

Anna is sublime and her man can't half play the spoons.

[@ehhe4381]

1:04:36

[@Orion-lt3zz]

Who is that fabulous man?

[@DelandaBaudLacanian]

Luke Daniel

[@lemokemo5752]

Wonderful podcast, please improve audio

[@RestorationBulletin]

Thank you for your comment, and we’re working on it - we realised my scarf over the mic was causing problems. Thank you for bearing with us, though. Stick around for more to come!

[@ehhe4381]

35:18

[@seanaguinaga]

Need to up the video and audio quality Camera angles are good though!

[@DelandaBaudLacanian]

who controls the Longhouse? or are we not using that buzzword no more

[@rmmr1168]

I couldn’t disagree with Anna more on her presentation of religious faith. How disappointing.

[@nonaligned293]

I wasn't aware Anna published some work. Or is she talking about her magnificent role as Ghislaine Maxwell in Dasha's movie? Douglas, Ayaan and Anna condescend and look down at protestors as if half of those kids don't have far better and more honest, nuanced and unbiased understanding of historical events and contexts that led to Islamic extremism of today in middle east. Douglas and Anna choose to be apologists for US / UK imperialism and they derive all their views from and build their "intellectual" personas around single initial view that brought them fame and livelihood. They are corrupted by their own incentives, and dismissive and unreceptive of anything that could jeopardize their position in sphere of "public intellectual speaking", their connections and thier sources of income. It's sad because Douglas is very clever (I liked how he defended free speech before he supported censorship in Germany) and Anna can be very funny.

[@MichaelEllegard-dz1yd]

Anna looks amazing and fully Cis.

[@letitflow1120]

These people fucked us so bad

[@DaboooogA]

I'm surprised Ayaan brought on Anna, who has always spoken like an unhinged wokie.

[@LiamPorterFilms]

The podcast is basically trad cath alt right today

[@Honkthentrumpets]

I disagree with both of you. Redscare is a desperately confused journey of honest, intelligent, modern women.

[@LiamPorterFilms]

@@Honkthentrumpets I'd agree with "desperately confused" but not sure about the "intelligent" bit

[@Honkthentrumpets]

@@LiamPorterFilms come on, they be smart.

[@joshbaino3087]

​@@Honkthentrumpets I'd disagree with the honest part. I don't know how Anna can pretend to be on the left with the views she has. Literally like a pickme for right wingers.

[@mariecait]

The vocal fry and like like umm is why I can’t listen to red scare podcast 😢

[@commanderrussels2612]

i think it's relaxing but i grew up around women with vocal fry

[@puppylovee1438]

« Wamen »

[@ehhe4381]

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