Anno Exposes GAINAX

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

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[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

Clickable description for mobile: Anno's Article: diamond.jp/articles/-/224881 E-Kon's Tweets: twitter.com/out_sall/status/1211474824335429638 Who Is Hideaki Anno?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5_Xi5uQgLSsZ9E My Evangelion Analysis: kzbin.info/www/bejne/emeyXpyabtp_rLc Other Videos In Which I Talk About Eva, Anno, & GAINAX: kzbin.info/aero/PLw6UBKuaMyFCnCBgKerOXnxZ1-vc9sqSG **CORRECTION: I at various points state that the "current president" of Gaina is the one who was running Gainax beforehand, but I believe it has changed hands. One of anime's most influential and beloved studios has finally closed its doors after having turned into a shell company when literally everyone left, putting a new president in charge who quickly found himself arrested for sexual misconduct. With the Japanese news reporting that the "president of the studio which produced Evangelion" had been arrested, Anno felt the need to disambiguate the situation in stunning form, with a lengthy expose about his entire history with the studio. In it, we learn of how Anno loaned the company a massive sum of money that went into the ether with the GAINAX shell; how they were meant to sell Khara the rights to FLCL and Gunbuster, but then hiked the price up and then suddenly went behind their backs to sell them elsewhere; and how the management has been so bad for so long, that Anno hadn't even wanted the studio to produce Evangelion in the first place! It's a hell of a story rife with gems that cast potential new light on history and Anno's work--including indications which spur my speculation that the changes to Eva's story in the Rebiulds were the result of the original project which Anno cancelled in order to take a responsible course with Evangelion. Seasonal anime coverage on KHANTEHNT!: kzbin.info/door/qDsLBRmBVIs4R0-Bb4Svowvideos Support my ability to be awake when news breaks: www.patreon.com/digibro Or NewProject2: newproject2.com/digibro/ My Amazon storefront: amzn.to/31zgpQW Donate via paypal to: www.paypal.me/digibro My Anime List: myanimelist.net/profile/Digibro Twitter: twitter.com/Digibrah

[@AB-ui1kv]

So Out of Youtoube tradition... "first".

[@connorpearson4856]

www.excite.co.jp/news/article/E1380729604652/ This is an article in 2013 from one of the lesser know Gainax guys/Trigger founders Masahiko Otsuka. To Paraphrase the part that is most relevant to Anno's involvement, apparently Otsuka and Imaishi decided during the production of Panty and Stocking that they no longer wanted to work with Gainax for what would become KlK and everything that would come after and it was Anno that advised them to make their own studio and pull all of the talent out of Gainax to get out of that sinking ship. They may have fucked him with the IP shuffling, but he essentially served them their just deserts in advising the Trigger team to leave. I do wonder if we'll get a new statement from them regarding this now that Anno has laid his cards on the table.

[@ElduRSverO]

Regarding why Anno decided to go with redoing Eva with the movies there's this interview of him where he goes about how he came to do the rebuilds. There were two projects he had in mind at the time an original one and a digital remaster of Eva which ended up becoming the rebuilds fullfrontal.moe/khara-10/

[@omichillian]

very minor and really irrelevant ngl but I think you said production I.G also helped with neon genesis evangelion but the original neon genesis Evangelion series was co produced by tatsunoko production not production I.G (death and rebirth and the end of evangelion were co produced by I.G tho)

[@ChristieNel]

The final Gainax ending. And it's nothing like a Gainax ending.

[@leonardotavaresdardenne9955]

If only they ended with a either really good or laughably bad show. Instead they die with a wimper...

[@mechajay3358]

How Ironically Poetic

[@TheOutlawed1000]

It's a little like a Gainax ending. Imagine Anno standing on a beach right now.

[@_GeneralMechanics_]

"I feel sick..." sums it up perfectly.

[@GuardianAngelX72]

I mean, running out the budget on side shit and having to throw together a facade using duck tape and craft paper...truly is a Gainax ending.

[@chickknightgreenleaf820]

company's suits rip off artists, tale as old as time

[@Mark-fv8vt]

Don't they have unions in japan?

[@TheSkaOreo]

Song as old as rhyme?

[@eruno_]

@@Mark-fv8vt animators don't

[@maxis2k]

@@Mark-fv8vt They have unions in Hollywood. Companies still screw the creators.

[@WildVoltorb]

Commie detected

[@Angelic_Materia]

My love for studio Gainax~ It all comes tumbling down tumbling down tumbling dooown~

[@thusspakeflavina]

This guy ...

[@callumwarren3342]

Gainax: I JUST KEEP LETTING ME DOWN LETTING ME DOWN LETTING ME DOWNNNN

[@Monothefox]

Insert sliding guitar riff.

[@Monothefox]

”Komm, süsser Konkurs”

[@jaihari1825]

Gainax: I'VE LOST EVERYTHING EVERYTHING EVERYTHING THAT MATTERS TO ME MATTERS IN THIS WORLDDDDDDDDDD

[@salokin3087]

When i heard "Death" honestly feared that we lost Anno

[@francispauwels1071]

The day Anno dies is the day I quit anime forever and start watching Taiwanese puppet shows.

[@MizantropMan]

Same. We are not yet ready to take such a loss, nor will we ever be.

[@teslercoil5174]

@@francispauwels1071 why Taiwanese puppet shows?

[@francispauwels1071]

@@teslercoil5174 Why Japanese cartoons? Taiwanese puppet shows are the latest hot craze. Even the legendary director Urobuchi, behind anime like Madoka, Psycho Pass and Fate/Zero, abandoned the dying anime industry to direct puppet shows like the absolute madman he is swordtranslations.wordpress.com/2018/11/13/urobuchi-gen-thunderbolt-fantasy-interview/

[@nowheredan27]

Don't you fucking jinx it

[@MrJerkdude1]

It's really sad to see the studio which left an impact fall like this. They really needed a proper life source..

[@ewoutverheij4745]

The studio may be gone but the people who made the actual works moved on to other studios and other things. animation production is a difficult balancing act between art and business these things don't mix easily.

[@Gooong]

That's the wrong way to see it. More like, thank goodness that incompetently run studio can't leech off fantastic talent anymore. I can't believe they got away with it for so long.

[@MrJerkdude1]

@@Gooong When I think about now, then yes, especially with the direction it was leaning towards after the big financial success that was evangelion. The studio really needed better management and began to cripple the second they began squeezing money off of Evangelion. If another life source came they'd do everything they could to make anything off it.

[@ThePhoneix999]

Tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down

[@konobryanda1168]

The 3 impacts 😉

[@borjaslamic]

Strange how whenever a bigwig is criminally charged it's always either money laundering or illicit material featuring minors.

[@LimeyLassen]

It's a class thing. These guys all use their resources to protect each other.

[@PabbyPabbles]

It's never illicit minor laundering

[@Dvariak]

@@LimeyLassen finally, someone looking at class

[@Gloomdrake]

TheOnePabb Human trafficking? Because sometimes it’s that.

[@Whoo711]

Sex is one of the "best" ways to wield/lord one's immense power over others, esp. abusively.

[@SumThingFawful]

Digi tells the tragedy of Darth Gainax the wise. It's not a story any Anituber would tell you.....

[@teslercoil5174]

He was so powerful that he could use the merchandise to keep it's Brand name from dying

[@nonenone6704]

The only thing Gainax feared was losing that power, which of course it did. Ironic, it could save it's brand name, but not the actual studio itself.

[@TheOutlawed1000]

Some even say he could manipulate the moneyclorians to create........ DEATH

[@Harrinsain]

to be honest, Anno really is just the George Lucas of anime.

[@blessedowoboi]

Hmmmmmmm wise yes

[@drfoto2673]

"They are not making things, they are just moving money around" Welcome to the world of corporate!

[@xthna]

I now find it ironic that Gainax is the same studio that made Otaku no Video.

[@kishi_illust]

It was a premonition all along

[@artofpootan]

Holy crap, you're right. Except in this version they abuse the voice actress and change their name suspiciously to "Gaina". Is that a hard G or a soft G?

[@xthna]

Pootan Inamo Hard G because of Japanese pronunciation.

[@chryco4]

_looks at rebuilds_ "Perhaps I treated you too harshly?"

[@christesterman]

No....rabid eva fan....I worry about the end. But perhaps the original fans weren't the people he is talking to now. Perhaps. We will see with the last movie.

[@HashbrownMashup]

_reboots... are... inevitable..._

[@christesterman]

@@DigeeTheGenie 1.11 was a improvement over the original episodes IMO. 2.22......errrr ACTION!!!!! With no character development at all. 3.33 WTF. I haven't been impressed so far with the footage so far with the latest one either so yeah this next movie is a make or brake.

[@justsomeguywithsunglasses8418]

You are honestly expecting an Eva ending to be satisfying? To answer questions? To not be a crazy, insane, trippy experience that is visually bananas? Okay.

[@revatronprime4120]

3.33 was fire yall are crazy

[@DK-5]

This is basically the second episode of Otaku No Video...

[@amuro9624]

Otaku no video rebuild: you can (not) diddle kids

[@ziryuri]

This comment right here

[@user-rc3cm1zv4j]

@@amuro9624 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@user-rc3cm1zv4j]

Dang it I was about to say that 😑😑

[@jacksonflood9344]

Oh that's perfect.

[@Dalia1784]

Well this fully explains why we're never gonna get Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt season 2. Thanks for the Expose.

[@lemonlupinreuben5362]

Sad

[@Tython82]

Although if Gainax has sold the rights to all there properties.....where are the Panty and Stocking rights at the moment?

[@Dalia1784]

@@Tython82 Good point!

[@fernie-fernandez]

David Miller So your saying P&S wasn’t sold off?

[@Tython82]

@@fernie-fernandez What I am saying is that if Gainax has sold off all the rights to there properties as the video entails or at least the majority of them, where are the P&S rights at the moment?

[@TalussAthner]

I actually just did a research paper on Gainax, and throughout my research I just got a very weird impression of Hiroyuki Yamaga (who I believe is who you're talking about as president of Gaina). Including that when Toshio Okada (who kinda started the mismanagement thing but seems to have been less money hungry and more just chaotic) was president and before the production issues of uru in blue, Okada had literally said he wouldn't allow Yamaga to make Uru in Blue because it was essentially just Streets of Fire. Then Yamaga later on keeps saying he'll make it or write a book series and he never really does either. Then like after no word of it for 10+ years he showed up at Fanime (convention in San Jose) and announced they were still working on making it.

[@Ehelon]

This sounds really interesting, is it possible to read this paper anywhere?

[@agoodboy1404]

Streets of fire?

[@naikyou]

Hiroyuki Yamaga also attended Connichi (con in Kassel, Germany) pretty much yearly alongside some Gainax staff to advertise their Matsumoto Leiji movie trilogy (technically just a Gainax panel, but everything but these three movies was shot down as a topic). Basically a 30 minute product pitch that felt like a business meeting, definitely the strangest ones I've attended. Though not nearly as strange as the Uru in Blue story.

[@Shantosh9550]

Gainax, the Konami of Anime.

[@niu-3-]

Shantosh Rajendren At least Konami didn’t get exposed for crimes

[@jambott5520]

niu ....yet. They haven't been exposed yet.

[@royabr1217]

Actually, Konami's fortunes have improved since Kojima left. You can see that their stock prices had taken a down turn after he became vice-president and started climbing back up again after he had left. Not very surprising since he was a one trick pony with MGS, and was a poor excuse for a director or producer for any other franchise, not to mention a poor writer/business man to begin with.

[@JuanGomez-ke5py]

@@royabr1217 the only thing keeping them a full o card game

[@royabr1217]

@@JuanGomez-ke5py could you elaborate please?

[@89ji76]

When companies split up by prefecture like that it’s usually to avoid paying for employees health insurance and pensions, because each of the individual companies is small enough to claim to be a small business. I’m not saying that’s why Gainax did it but actually yeah I am. That’s always why.

[@Battlesthegolden]

Yikes bro. That is some true scummy shit

[@Stevem]

To quote @otakucalendarjp "They established Gainax to create only a film Royal Space Force 1984. It received high praise, but they were left in debt. This friendship group continued to work as Gainax for repayment. Anno created Aim for the Top, Nadia and Evangelion. It brought wealth and fame... Anno was super-talented. But his friends were not, in addition, not good for management jobs. They wasted money. Anno and his staff (Tsurumaki, Masayuki) left 2007 to Khara... Only his friends remained." He made the right decision.

[@Stevem]

I wish this wasn't the case in the anime industry seems company only spend time sucking the life and using all their staff until they're dry and the laws in Japan will not help those in need

[@savagesavant9458]

Minor correction: EVA TV animation production was handled by Gainax and Tatsunoko Pro, Production I.G took Tatsunoko's place in the movies.

[@montajedelespectador]

IG starts like a tatsu division, later become independent

[@boscochou9710]

I guess it's time to bring down the curtain, give a toss to the sunset, and cherish what we've got from GAINAX.

[@RedMageIX]

Y'know I learned something today. When the camera is off focused Ponyo looks a lot like Lisa Simpson.

[@goos4711]

At least he got the Eva rights back. Screw it and burn it all down. I have a feeling this was probably a lot of anime companies for a while and explains why anime is in such a slump.

[@zero-nh3rj]

Holy shit you might be right

[@francis6489]

Aha, so you were also in that /a/ thread from last night.

[@benjamingarrett4960]

Didn’t you have a rant about how this company is failing like 3 days ago? Lol what timing.

[@GravedSanctuary]

Hideaki Ano just making a fanfiction of his own work. Mad lad.

[@mlo009]

8 pages short story.

[@Zeon081]

in true otaku fashion the company suicides in lolicon getting caught redhanded. what an absolute madlad of a company. what is next? madhouse top getting an accusation of NTRing someones waifu?

[@DivinityOfBLaze]

Only if that waifu is underaged.

[@SomethingLog]

Don't call it loli when it's a real person

[@DivinityOfBLaze]

@@SomethingLog it's not inaccurate. It's short for lolita which is a sexually precocious young girl. So honestly kind of insulting the poor victim here by using loli. Kinda gives off underage slut vibes with the definition.

[@Zeon081]

@@SomethingLog A. I did not call the victim "loli", I called the director "lolicon". B. Fuckoff.

[@ethanclark100]

@@DivinityOfBLaze Loli and Lolita have clearly developed different definitions and connotations over time. It's not really fair to try to cling it to that when many aren't using the word in that way.

[@christesterman]

Hideaki Anno made Gainax for me. Evangelion spoke to me personally when I was growing up and I am forever grateful. Gainax is dead and it looks like they deserve it.

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodfb2626]

What makes it worse is the realization that all these years fans who bought merch were never supporting the artists.

[@gamesmithy]

If the fans thought that's how you support artists, then they're idiots.

[@brotosaurus]

This shit is making me really sad because if he had gotten the rights we may have gotten a good FLCL sequel and maybe even gunbuster 3

[@cindyfrooner2531]

Gainax should have ended as a dream sequence

[@AesculapiusPiranha]

Evangellion 4.0: You Can (Not) Steal My Money

[@TheSecondVersion]

So GAINAX became SEELE

[@kinryuten]

Gainax needed a 100 million yen loan from Anno. So what you're telling me is... a small loan of a million dollars.

[@meowistforlife]

kinryuten from their figurative father

[@knofear8859]

This is basically our definitive proof, at long last, that if not for corporate fuckery, greed, and mismanagement, Anno would likely be the richest man in Japan today.

[@manofcultura]

I have to renegotiate my pay ever fucking year. Get a grip and ask what you’re worth. Anno just needed balls and half an IQ point to think about how to structure a good contract.

[@r0w5tortion84]

@@manofcultura were you renegotiating when you started out on adult life? You make it sound like this is common knowledge I mean, hindsight is 20/20. He's probably doing that very thing these days, but this is a lesson that had to be learned

[@Mellowbaton]

Never thought I'd see an anime studio pull an Enron

[@Wergoheb]

Too big to fail

[@TheKing-ve7lz]

To me Trigger has basically just been the new Gainax anyway since most of the shows I liked from Gainax where Directed by Hiroyuki Imaishi.

[@gundam42d64]

So in short the Eva films have a lot of ramifications and be deserving of a viewing under a different scope and might be better then we thought or at the very least a plain fascinating study?

[@900bot2]

I might of never given the rebuilda a chance, but know that we know the details I cant wait to watch the rebuilds

[@INRamos13]

In short you guys gotta stop rationalising and just accept the Rebuilds for what they are

[@Spiderdude93]

@@INRamos13 bad? lol But really, if you can't enjoy a piece of media, it doesn't matter what it's creation background is. I can say good job to beginner artists creating things but that doesn't protect their work from criticism. I can say that I don't like sequel Star wars but that doesn't make the prequels good now just because. Give rebuilds a chance but don't give it a free pass just because of the gainax situation.

[@aiwash2766]

Well at least Trigger was formed outta the dumpster fire known as gainax

[@wavieff]

Noe Hernandez Trigger has made a grand total of one masterpiece. And that is Promare.

[@aiwash2766]

Wavieff imo nothing they make is a master piece but if you want fun Trigger is the place to go they make the most fun anime in the industry

[@gilliganinja]

@@wavieff clearly you haven't seen InfernoCop Also KLK is a masterpiece but I get why some people might not think so

[@syintigs5543]

Wavieff Kill la kill. Promares cool too.

[@hijous]

ninja slayer is a masterpiece

[@l_archives]

Gunbuster 3 and FLCL sequels in hands of Tsurumaki... That could have been amazing

[@SttudDioPierrot]

None of this would have happened if they gave me that 3rd season of Medaka Box

[@LeMeccerino]

@GN05 TV *sips* Your chinese cartoon will (not) get a sequel

[@LeMeccerino]

@GN05 TV That meme is as dead as your hopes and dreams.

[@bungieborris9111]

damn straight

[@AlejandroSilva-mr7yy]

Tl;dr Gainax is the most American anime studio

[@omichillian]

Power hungry, greedy and lazy?

[@AlejandroSilva-mr7yy]

@@omichillian yes, and shitting on its directors

[@fernie-fernandez]

Alejandro Silva What about id Software, Wayforward, or any Canadian studio?

[@fernie-fernandez]

@singularon1 I can think of DiC, O Entertainment, DNA Productions, and maybe...a few Canadian companies like YTV, Nelvana and Teletoons...! I'm just sure if they if they did bad.

[@elbowpastatime]

Medaka box? takes a drag of my cigarette* Haven't heard that name in a while...

[@RedRyuSmash]

I actually dislike EVA myself, but this story is just a reminder for people to be careful of who you get involved with when it comes to publishers and getting your work off the ground. What GAINAX did sounds pretty similar to rights issues I've seen in other media, one I am the most familiar with is Archie's Sonic the Hedgehog comics and the BS with Ken Penders and Archie itself. Still shame for GAINAX but they live on with Trigger and other studios since the people make the work still are around. Thanks for sharing this, it was interesting to learn about this all.

[@destroyerinazuma96]

Any "classic" shows you do like? :)

[@destroyerinazuma96]

@Shaman Xeed Even Little Witch Academia ? :)

[@savagesavant9458]

Another nitpick: As well as animation production, I.G co-financed FLCL, as they were part of its production committee with Gainax and King Record (Star Child). They were even the master licensor for the show's overseas rights. The English adaptation was co-produced by Synch-Point (who at the time was a subsidiary of Broccoli) and Production I.G, LLC. (aka I.G USA). They put just as much love and care into that series as the other two companies. Also, I.G Port is a power player, I highly doubt they were hurting for money. Their output of anime is higher than most other studios (with their subsidiaries: Xebec [who up until early 2019, before being split with the actual studio going to Sunrise and Xebec's IPs and the Xebeczwei animation studio remaining with I.G], Wit Studio, and a few other studios whose name escape me at the moment. That diatribe aside, my point is that I.G was more heavily involved with the original FLCL OVA than you let on. Can't speak on the Progressive and Alternative as, outside of Progressive's 1st ep, I haven't seen them, but I do know that Kazuya Tsurumaki was credited as a supervisor for the series, so you can't exclude him from blame on that one lol

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

Anno seemed to say that the rights were sold to "companies that needed the money" in the article, hence why I said that, though it could've been a fault of google translate

[@savagesavant9458]

@@Trixiethegoldenwitch he may have alluded to that. But it was probably, almost definitely because Gainax needed the money and not the other way around. But you mentioned that as well. I highly doubt Ishikawa would shell out money for an IP just BECAUSE they needed money, that's not even good business sense, especially when you consider the fact that I.G was a copyright holder for the original OVA. ©GAINAX/KGI - that KGI stood for King/Gainax/I.G similar to the convention of how most Ghibli movies were copyrighted with the production committe's initials (fun fact, Disney was one of the D's in the copyrights to A LOT of Ghibli movies). One thing I'll give Mitsuhisa Ishikawa (I.G's co-founder and CEO) is the man has a damn good business sense, he jumped on it because it gave them complete control of an already established and beloved IP. (I remember asking Maki Terashima why Gainax wasn't credited as a creator or even copyright holder of FLCL 2 and 3 and she never gave me and answer. You solved that year long mystery for me today.) Now them shutterring Xebec, could be due to financial straits, but it's been reported that that studio never really made much money despite their output, so I doubt that, hence the sell of the main studio to Sunrise/Bandai Namco (the original Xebec is now known as Sunrise Beyond) and I.G retaining both Xebec's zwei arm (now known as IGzwei) and Xebec's IPs. I know I'm geeking out, I don't really get to do this often because a lot of this info is pretty useless outside of a trivia sense, so don't mind me. I'm just flexing a bit.

[@ChristieNel]

I don't want to die! - Asuka Langley Soryu

[@zero-nh3rj]

Tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling dooooowwwn

[@Dragito5555555555555]

A shame anno couldn’t have sued them in Texas. Ty beard could’ve gotten that shell company money

[@fernie-fernandez]

Funk Biscuit Texas?

[@Dragito5555555555555]

@@fernie-fernandez What Roger said. The attorney for Vic has his specialization in assets and has experience hunting down money moved into shell companies, for example

[@Monothefox]

Yeah, the japanese legal system is a shit show. US law gets a bad wrap, but oh, mama...

[@daytripperarrabal]

heh right. Houkago no Pleiades was a big Subaru ad with some plot all over the place

[@LowellLucasJr.]

Well thanks for sharing! There is definitely a lot of things going on with Gaia next that I suspected but didn't truly know and I thank you for that information. The rebuild projects as well as the treatment of Fooly Cooly makes total sense now!

[@Coolio_Ash]

GunBuster is literally one of my favorite shows ever an i cant believe how horrible its creators were treated

[@thewalkingdude0136]

Anno went from sad boy to angry boy

[@arielmalsireal5453]

thewalkingdude 01 He Is Gonna Release Any Impacts.

[@Zeon081]

My Future Vision EX told me that in 2021 Khara releases a show about this whole situation

[@lemonlupinreuben5362]

Corporate corruption and fuckery: a tale as old as time

[@INRamos13]

Hopefully!

[@LeoSkyro]

How in the fuck is it even legal for them to just create new companies and go "PSYCHE, I know you sued us and won, but we just moved our shit to another place so... sucks to be you" our world is fucked and needs a revolution

[@SicMetalMaggot4life]

I am very glad I heard your mention of this Eva-like project Anno had in mind and your theory of the two merging together in the Rebuild movies. It really re-contextualizes those movies for me and makes me want to rewatch them. Something that always felt off to me is the disconnect between 2.0 and 3.0, as though things from 2.0 and 3.0 would have been explained in a hypothetical in between movie (as hinted at in the teaser at the end of 2.0), only for whatever was planned there to be scrapped. I'm left very uncertain about how I feel about the Rebuild movies now, but at least I'm glad Eva is funding new anime projects and the rights to NGE are now with Khara.

[@Ris3451]

So basically, Gainax is the Konami of anime studios.

[@MTWENTY]

It’s just ironic that the people of Japan have this stigma of being respectful and having family-like morality, but when it comes to business they’re just as corrupt as businesses run in America. Kojima wanted to do other things, but Konami coerced him to stay and make more and more MGS games by granting him his own production company. Little did he know that he’d arguably waste a decade of his life just pushing out more MGS content. Death Stranding is a weird game, but it goes to show the kind of creativity Kojima has. We could’ve gotten some really great IP’s from him. Anno fundamentally went through the same shitty business practices of Gainax but was smart enough to leave early.

[@jonathancurran6851]

Looks like it..... (Nes Manga)

[@N.I.S.C]

I hope trigger absorbs all the proyects that gainax did not pay attention to.... LIKE PANTY AND STOCKING WITH GARTERBELT PLEASE SOMEONE END MY SUFFERRING ITS BEEN ALMOST TEN YEARS

[@orlandocasillas9806]

Oh, if only. A PSG revival made by Trigger would be glorious!

[@autisticbidan2303]

Anno: makes something good. Gainax: it's free real estate.

[@snoopyodig1137]

Wanna reddit gold for that comment?

[@godzero8497]

Imagine a world where Anno actually succeeds to get the FLCL rights.

[@bigneto95]

How bad is japanese law sistem to alow a Company being prosecuted to split itself while all this is happening?

[@thusspakeflavina]

It's not just Japan this is how failed corporations get sequels

[@fernie-fernandez]

Dogshit Crazy Sequels?

[@djukor]

Personally i kinda see Trigger as Gianax now. In modern times companies names barely even mean anything anymore.

[@full-timepog6844]

It's the people in the company that matter.

[@fernie-fernandez]

djukor What about Production IG?

[@montajedelespectador]

@@fernie-fernandez ig have witt studio

[@fernie-fernandez]

Montaje del espectador Witt Studio?

[@kittenburger_prime]

Wait I haven’t been disappointed in Evangelion 4.44 (you are not released) yet!

[@kuribo04]

I like 3.0 so much that I sometimes forget there are Eva fans who have trouble with it. It is the most Eva film out of the first three. You can't have the effect NGE had by repeating NGE. If in NGE Anno was playing with expectations for mecha and anime in general, he is now playing with Evangelion itself.

[@Alienrun]

I'm sure if Digi were to reply to this seriously, he'd say why then do NGE again in the first place? Then again that applies the RoE entirely so that point is kinda moot now that I think about it lol

[@kuribo04]

@@Alienrun Rebuild isn't NGE

[@zero-nh3rj]

Its not a proper NGE successor without anno getting death threats from fans for doing his own thing

[@kuribo04]

@@zero-nh3rj Kinda lol

[@Reelix]

The camera reflection in your glasses look like pupils :p

[@Indie-A-tom]

I thought Gainax died in 2010, after Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt . lol This company is to shade, holy shit. I hope everyone gets their money and rights back eventually.

[@pvcvalley]

This is lowkey how ive been lowballed, duped and destroyed in my previous workplace lol. Been a neetie since then. Whoever said neo-capitalism was a good idea, needs to be thrown under a bridge.

[@kage6613]

Neo? This is just the end stages of regular ol capitalism homie. It's functioning exactly how it was designed to, that's why those in power are wholly unbothered.

[@kage6613]

If anything, the end goal of capitalism, which we are almost entirely in currently, is neo-feudalism. Billionaires own us all.

[@destroyerinazuma96]

That's why we can't say that people who are leaning left are completely stupid. We need balance and both "left" policies and "right" policies.

[@kage6613]

@Bazzil Cotterell hahahha you've really been drinking the kapitalist koolaid aintcha

[@EinsteinJR2]

Funny timing with a rant you recently uploaded.

[@Stevem]

Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 will just stop halfway through to cut to Anno shit talking Gainax for 20 minutes

[@TheCreepypro]

man was this eye opening like you said I hope we get better translations as well cause there has to be more to this than even what we got here thanks for sharing this with us

[@Whoo711]

Nice! Despite all of Gainax's BS, Hideaki Anno still made bank ($99 Million net worth), although many other staff probably didn't do nearly as well. Perhaps one day maybe we'll even see a "Studio Anno", w/ a lot of the disenfranchised staff from Gainax getting rightfully compensated and treated.

[@toastcrumch]

Otaku no video was a prophecy...

[@arielmalsireal5453]

Hideaki Fucking Anno Is A GENIUS AND WHOLESOME. RESPECT Anno For Creating EVA. 🙏🙏🙏

[@crazyBloodmonkey]

flcl having the worst sequels ever made. that's a bold claim when bersek 2016 and 17 exist lol

[@jambott5520]

crazyBloodmonkey berserk 2017 wasn't significantly worse than 2016, it was the same shit, so i wouldn't say it wasnt the worst sequel.

[@crazyBloodmonkey]

i mean if you're talking about flcl i haven't seen anyone say that alternative was worse than progressive as alternative technically had a message while progressive didn't. i don't know digi and a bunch of people overreact about flcl sequels i mean flcl is my favorite show of all time and i thought the sequels were just fine i knew they weren't going to live up to the first season and i enjoyed them for what they were a stupid fun time. while berserk sequels i didn't even watch because of how dogshit they were like really i pretend they don't exist i mean the 1997 series was choppy and looks kind of bad but at least that series is worth watching 2016 and 2017 would look better if they were animated in gmod like i don't know how you fuck up a show that bad.

[@fernie-fernandez]

crazyBloodmonkey You know, it’s gonna impossible for Berserk to comeback to its “full-glory of animation” since Japan has moved on to digital animations and went through a censorship...

[@crazyBloodmonkey]

@@fernie-fernandez I mean honestly it is impossible for an anime to even get close to what the manga looks like but there a bunch of well known studios that could do a way better job than what we got. And yeah censorship is a bitch and I'm not sure if it's different in Japan but they could just put that shit on streaming service so it could be as fuck up as it is

[@jambott5520]

Fernie Fernandez digital animation is only a good thing for the anime industry. It makes every frame cheaper and quicker, meaning that it is possible to draw higher quality and better animated shows with the same staff and budget. Censorship is a bitch, but it wont stop berserk in all its glory. Maybe some of the worst stuff will happen off screen, but a lot of it will stay. There are plenty of examples of completely fucked up shit going uncensored in anime.

[@nowhereman6019]

Bless Anno for not being a sellout asshole and actually wanting to help make good anime. Though it sucks that to do so he needed to make the Eva Rebuilds the way they were. I love Eva and don't particularly like what the story and characters have become, but it makes sense if this theory of yours is true. At least we will always have the originals and the Manga (and some fanfics but don't quote me on that).

[@irvingchies1626]

the real problem with anime studios is they pay too mucho and have too many producers and bureaucracy, what they could do with less than 20 people mostly animators and a few audio engineers/seiyuus they hire over 80 people for and that's why a lot of the time most animators/screenplay writers get paid too little for the kind of work they do forcing them to even hire unexperienced workers ruining the quality

[@Crosseyes12]

More detective Digibro, please. Take Ekon as your producer and form the Digikon News Network.

[@jmalmsten]

Jeebus tibby fudgin rice! 0.o I had heard that Gainax was known for not being good with money. But I truly had no idea. I just want to buy the guy a drink. Or anything... Because wow... A lot of strangeness just starts to make sense now. The Anime industry really is a harsh mistress, from the grueling hours of underpayed work of the lowest ranks to the insanity of the upper echelon. Maybe Anime truly was a mistake. Maybe it should just implode and let the survivors rebuild the industry correctly from the ground up.

[@axelprino]

Right when everyone is expecting Gainax to slowly sink into obscurity and eventualy die, out of nowhere, they implode and go down in flames but not before splitting into many smaller creatures that'll probably refuse to die for some years. It's as weird as some the stuff they made.

[@cestalia]

Guess Anno just hit them with third impact huh?

[@larrshinshin7606]

Decided to treat myself for a job well done. Got Promare. Thought to myself "Why isn't Gainax any good anymore?" Off to KZbin and the nice man from the band OASIS made a good, deep dive video for the world!

[@gasper5223]

This better be good. I had to pause initial d to watch this

[@amuro9624]

The tofu delivery can wait

[@AbrahamCadillac]

Very informative video, thank you sir. Long live Anno

[@HubStationCostumes]

This sounds like Harmony Gold. Squatting the rights to Macross and occasionally generating litigation for 20 years.

[@CornishCreamtea07]

Digibro I've heard that most of Evangelion was actually made over at Tatsunoko, Gainax only having a few people working on it.

[@montajedelespectador]

But was produced at in (money and animators) or like a subcontraction only animation?

[@CornishCreamtea07]

That's a bit complicated, Anime in general is made by multiple studios. And Eva was handled by other companies aside from GAINAX and Tatsunoko. GAINAX staff obviously did the directing, writing and planning. Aside form that they did, a small amount of in-betweening and Computer Graphics Production. Tatsunoko are listed as Animation Production alongside GAINAX. They are listed as doing most of the cel painting, but I don't know if they did Key Animation, most of that seems to have been done by Production I.G, with a few notably people like Anno and Yoh Yoshinari from GAINAX. I sadly can not remember where I heard this from originally, and it is hard to find info as I could not find translated end credits, so I'm going off second handed sources. This would be better for Digibro to research.

[@MarketingMovies1337]

So you're telling me I'll NEVER get a Panty and Stocking Season 2 ?

[@magellancomics334]

It will most likely go to Trigger.

[@Smurfkobain10]

Ok very dumb story. I started Eva for the first time the day it came out on Netflix and got 10 eps. in before I stopped because I thought it was stupid and overdramatic and fanservice-y. I have a very weird relationship with anime because I hate basically all of it but the 7 or so shows I love are more important to me than any other tv ever made. Me and my friend have been going through ALL the Ghibli movies in chronological order (first time for him, I've seen all 22 of them at least twice each) and out of the blue I decided to try Eva again. Start over on episode 1 but subbed this time. Now I'm on 16 and I feel like I've unlocked the universe. There's something in literally every shot and recontextualizing this knowing Anno was Jiro in The Wind Rises (my favorite thing ever made) brought me to tears on a few occasions. The reckoning with parental figures, the struggle of sexuality and arbitrary repression, it's kind of crazy this came out before 2001 because it really is this amazing post-9/11 tapestry. But I feel like all of this is just scratching the surface and I want to write a full paragraph about every other couple of seconds while I'm watching it. IT'S LIKE I UNDERSTAND ALL OF IT NOW. I'm not done of course and all I know is people say the ending blows your mind or some shit. But yea I've only know Anno through the Miyazaki connections and I've never looked at anything Eva related ever or even searched anything up but I guess KZbin looks at my Netflix and decided to show me this video of a guy with sunglasses indoors talking about Anno doing something or something. But yea that's my dumb story.

[@bebophakusho8581]

I think it's cool you liked Eva so much after being willing to give it a second chance. Not everyone can get past a poor first impression.

[@the_gratefulgamer]

Word on the street. Watching Original Eva on Netflix is the worst version.

[@Smurfkobain10]

@@the_gratefulgamer what, in full HD? Using the original 16 mm prints? Subbed with the original Japanese audio in 5.1? Seems like the best way! Is it literally just because they put Rei's theme at the end instead of whatever song it was originally that there were like, fifty versions of?

[@bebophakusho8581]

@@Smurfkobain10 I think the main problem is the fact that Aniplex (I think) required Netflix to go with a more literal translation as opposed to the more poetic original. Of course I'd really miss Fly Me To the Moon too, as there are at least three different versions that were created for the show and they're just so iconic.

[@Smurfkobain10]

@@bebophakusho8581 oh the translation is different? I didn't know that. I'll definitely have to find that other one. I finished the show and End of Eva last night...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh his cycle of self-hatred continues and her casual degradation will continue to provoke him until he just ends up killing her? My brain hurts

[@Jhonjackdiab]

So in the end who has the rights of Gunbuster?

[@zero-nh3rj]

Yes but actually no, however there is the possibility

[@dr.velious5411]

Who even knows anymore, it's either with a shell company or possibly sold to a company overseas, I wouldn't even put it past Netflix to have gobbled up the missing IPs.

[@scenikeight]

Gaina Company has it, apparently. The third movie has been in "production" for like three or four years now.

[@theatheistbear3117]

@@scenikeight If Anno isn’t involved it’s not canon.

[@InnerVision66]

And it all comes back to the Yakuza... 🤔

[@not_user11]

digibro, maid cafés aint cheap ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@biazacha]

Social media really changed the landscape for animators; I have the feeling that to some degree almost all the studios have similar problems (well anime nowadays is pretty much just glorified ads for other products), but unlike in the 90s and early 2000s now not only the community is huge but the staff can contact fans directly with info. That are was always know to deal with things on shady ways and slip it under the rug, but now more and more we see scandals in politics, different industries like anime or Kpop, big companies can't just do their shit and expect nobody will call out their bs anymore. I hope the next decade brings more power to creative teams and less to higherups that only see numbers.

[@tajox]

What really surprised me from hearing this is how anno hasn't made any money from gunbuster, seeing as how he was the creator. It's also a really sad history, considering how gainax came to be, I would be interested in seeing some form of early days histories about the company, but maybe this exposure is as much as we will get

[@aaronbaron6468]

Maybe from this I'll consider rewatching Eva 3

[@masha_kasha5061]

Better left to be forgotten it was a train wreck in motion it has a good concept at the start but ended up on the wrong train tracks

[@fumomo]

hi I'm random japanese Eva fanboy. you guys must to check Okada Toshio's opinion. Okada Toshio is Gainax former president. he is not involvement gainax nowadays but his explains help your understanding. his opinion/explain video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKHTaWCrqLKSq8U (1:54~17:35) *It's all japaenese. I hope someone translate it and post to reddit or something.

[@evergaolbird]

GAINAX: You Can (Not) Advance

[@JJtoob]

The other Eva project, I bet it was the live action movie that Weta Works made concept art for years ago.

[@Zeon081]

interesting enough. I just found out that the logo of studio Khara has it written in Cyrillic "ХАРА" indicating that a [k] sound is not pronounced

[@bobbobson110]

I think that's supposed to be Greek. XAPA means joy. The word charisma is related to that.

[@Zeon081]

@@bobbobson110 it's also a name of a dog belonging to Arcas king of Arcadia iirc

[@hak525]

Its in Greek and it means Joy

[@zenith2930]

now this is a great anime video

[@youreboy526]

Hope Anno gets the IP & the EVA toy rights reverted to him. Fuck Gainax.

[@maxis2k]

A lot of this was rumored with the troubled production of Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou. Now we have confirmation that things were not only as bad as the rumors claimed, they were worse. Wish this was a fluke, but it happens a lot. Not just in anime but in video games, book publishing and so on. It's scary how similar the death of GAINAX and Konami are. And it's just plain sad how the majority of IPs are ruined by people outside of the production.

[@mrtangelo885]

I REMEMBER GONZO

[@marlonmoreno218]

F

[@dr.velious5411]

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[@kodytiffany5686]

Thanks for the vid. my friend told me of this debackle around christmas. I hope he gets his money.

[@ConcealedCourier]

So basically Asuka with an eyepatch is Spock with a beard. It's STD/Bad Robot meets anime.

[@roostergentry]

How is it Legal to sell an IP you're currently being sued for??