Another BROKEN DEERE....................Replacing Brakes on a John Deere 7R

We have been having issues with plugged hydraulic filters here lately with the 7200R. We ended up finding that the brake disk on the left side was completely gone and ended up replacing the brakes on both sides.

[@tomwainwright7102]

Another can`t leave video Andy,the workings of the modernday tractor compaired to those of my day,1950/60s,are mindboggling

[@halwilliams1682]

The thing I appreciate about the Challenger/ Fendt/ Massey tractors is that the oils in the hydraulic reservoir, transmission, and planetaries are all kept separate. If there is a problem in one of those areas, then contamination or damage is less likely to spread to the others.

[@minidigger1000]

Can't recommend this channel enough this is real farming these guys are not afraid to have a go anymore that doesn't like this doesn't really know farming this is old school at its best in Ireland this is how it is great stuff

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Thanks

[@johnaclark1]

Just one word...fascinating. First time I've seen a tear down like that. They look just like big automatic trans clutches. Thanks for sharing this.

[@oliverknapp3104]

Never ceases to me amaze me how smart jake is and how much talent he has

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Yes

[@deernutOO]

That was an interesting trip inside those brakes.. thanks for video taking us along. Amazing.

[@francismalonza6114]

Very complex tractor. John Deere is no ordinary tractor. one has to invest in good operator coz replacing those parts is not a small joke. i enjoyed watching the service. every time i learn something about tractors.

[@mitsnevets]

thats quite a process to do a brake job , glad you found the problem at the brake and not in deeper $$$$$$$ great video as usual keep em coming !

[@andrewcalderwood2580]

Very helpful video. You've given me the confidence to do brakes on our 7290R and save a pile of money. Thank you very much!

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Glad to hear

[@aidanquinn5498]

Good video, amazed there was no warning on that tractor with how bad that brake was gone and the other in good condition

[@rickburns8492]

It is always good to have the expert to give a helping hand.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Yes

[@cgarguy7039]

Another interesting educational video Andy, Thx.

[@robert.landwehr9237]

We all like what you do andy thank you sir

[@aledjones5083]

So good to have staff that have so much hands on knowledge and skills to do your own repairs good to see great team work all the best from West Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@stuartgibson1896]

I’d say you do a couple 25-50 hour oil and filter changes on that tractor too.

[@markthomas7270]

It's cheaper to go ahead and change Oil & filters than having to go into the transmission to be repaired!!

[@johnaclark1]

I think he said it was almost full at 98 quarts. That's 25 gallons of oil. Sounds a bit like a swimming pool. You don't change the water every time it gets a little dirty. You treat it and filter it.

[@johnaclark1]

@mashedmitten Seems to me the expert from John Deere told him to change the filter after a few hours of running. Don't recall him saying he was told to change all the oil again. I think I'd take the word of the professional who was on site rather than some "lame brain," arm chair expert on the internet.

[@johnaclark1]

@mashedmitten Lame-brain, hockey puck...quite the vocabulary there. Another Internet arm chair expert. You do realize that he put 98+ quarts in the thing already, right? Sounds like he already drained it and filled it and the expert, you know the one you're smarter than, told him to change the filter again after a few hours running. I'm thinking these guys do this enough, have it under control and don't need your advice anyway. Personally, I'd stick with the JD tech.

[@matthewjohnson3910]

Thanks for sharing Andy 👍

[@ronniejenkins2056]

Man that was a mess for sure it's amazing how much stuff can get screwed up good video I never knew that you had to take all that apart for brakes I learned a bunch thanks for sharing this part of repairs.

[@williamgreenway8958]

Another job in the books, but it`s good that John Deere can come out and help .Love me some green paint ! The only other tractor that I ever drove was a 2870 Case 4 wheel drive that we pulled a 330 John Deere disk, a 8 W/A row ripper hipper (planted cotton on a bed) and a 25 foot John Deere do-all which had 39 shanks on it over fresh broke ground (moldboard) ,It was stout but 15 mph road speed . Enjoyed watching .

[@onealfarms9967]

That is the size disc to stop that size tractor come on John Deere no wonder the hyd are so screwed up thanks for the video love seeing y’all farm

[@coryschoeneman9550]

You have to be your dealers favorite customer. Your still my favorite channel and I don’t even farm.

[@ejharrop1416]

I have to say the brake issue reminded me of my Dad and Grandad. Grandad had a '51 chevy and was tearing up clutches every few thousand miles. So the story goes he never used first gear and would run at high revs just to get the car going. My Dad did the clutch work and it drove him crazy, lol. You never know how people treat your equipment. Good luck, thanks.

[@ronaldpiper4812]

One of several sweet videos so so thankful to learn a sample of special stuff. Thank you more than you will ever know Andy !!!!!

[@danwortmann7064]

Andy always takes time to make the young people feel good!! # Super cool dude!!

[@dickhansen8594]

Thouroughly enjoyed the brake job video boss. Good one. Thank you for sharing and thank you for introducing Bob. Highlight right there.

[@benfairhall5331]

Damn I love 515 loctite or 510 which ever you used to reseal it. Magic stuff!!!!

[@j.b.maxwell8300]

Andy it could have been a parts failure with that plate broken, the plate may have been faulty to break like that, but really nobody knows what exactly happened, wether it’s operator, parts failure or fatigue, just that it did happen so all you can do is repair it and get it back to work, it’s all part of owning machinery, good vid though very enjoyable

[@rickpullins8590]

Really enjoy your videos andy love the wide variety of work you all do.

[@thomasmalone9929]

One wsy to helpclean system, what ido is rig up an in line full flow filter and plug into the remotes and engage it while your running the machine.

[@nikolai502]

I like watching these, funny that you're all over the place with the names.. 🙃

[@peterbishop1933]

Hi there ouch maybe it's time for you to get Andrew to try a red tractor or two. God bless and thanks for sharing your day to day operation very interesting. For me as an old farmer. Lol

[@bigtractorpower]

Always interesting to see the mechanics of farm machines. Nice video.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Yes it is indeed

[@missymitchell9766]

@@FarmingFixingFabricating what state is this in

[@georgerodgers4030]

@@FarmingFixingFabricating hi just wondering do you find putting bolt through forks the best way to hold half axle ? Or is a engine heist better? Thanks

[@jonnywilson9117]

@@missymitchell9766 bad state. Tractor was fucked.

[@jonnywilson9117]

@@georgerodgers4030 I'd imagine they use the forklift with a bolt through it, or a Bow shackle because it's far easier to move than an engine hoist. Don't need to be yanking it backwards on the floor to get it to move. That's my assumption to your question. Seems like an obvious answer. but I could 100% be wrong. But it's also a machine they have, and a versatile one at that. I'd definitely use a forklift over an engine hoist. Obviously space is a factor, of which they have ample amounts of.

[@ebutuoyebutouy]

Sounds like LHS brake would not release because of oring bind?

[@donpeterson9282]

Very interesting. I worked for a farmer during my high school and junior college days (late 50s and early 60s) but never spent much time other than greasing and changing the oil and filters on a 42 and a 48 'B" JD and a 1958 '60' model. Most of my time was spent on the model 'B' machines. Thanks for an interesting post. I subscribed and will be following you plus I have a lot of catching up to do. Live long and prosper.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Thanks for joining us

[@scottk8245R]

Great content. Have piled enough hours in these to wonder how the brakes work. Deere💯💪

[@dormie200]

I thought left hand brake wear would have been a thing of the past. It was however fairly normal on smaller 2WD tractors used for ploughing in the UK way back when reversible ploughs were a new fangled thing.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Makes sense

[@gasperajdnik5627]

Great video guys 👍, I really like watching heavy equipment and truck repair videos, I watch loots of your equipment repair videos today and yesterday great videos 👍🔧 have a good wekent 🤝🤠

[@marknicholson2718]

Is the entire system is contaminated? Usually wet brakes are bullet proof.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Yeah everything has to be replaced now…new transmission, differentials, the front hydraulic axle all the components

[@arthurkeler1456]

Andy, is it possible the piston might be sticking on slightly?

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

I'm hoping operator error

[@tcwaterdrill]

Bottom line they just don't make them to last like they use to. John Deere 4010 still going strong, but sure it does not have the power that your 7R has, but it was built to take the power and more than what it was built for. Glad I am retired. Glad to see some people still farming.

[@teddydunford2920]

People saying you might want to go red , LOL red breakdown too .

[@cameronweidert8784]

Teddy Dunford red breakdown more I know a guy that had a red tractor brake down 3 times in a month then on the last one the brake pump went out and and they were moving down the road so anyways the tractor wrecked and it tore the hole rear end off

[@rorywynhoff1549]

Red, Green, Yellow, etc.... they all break down.

[@robertquast9684]

Red guys say Deere’s are green so they can hide in the weeds when they break. Deere guys say case are red so you can find where you left them when they broke down

[@LarsDcCase]

November 2024. Still use my father's Model D Case. Only now do I need to replace the brake shoes on it. And, everything is easily accessible. The bigger and newer the tractor, the more p[problems it will have and much more expensive to repair.

[@mrdfarms9373]

Thanks for the ride along Andy, with all of the repairs going on. The whole crew is getting some invaluable OJT. Nothing can substitute real world problems and how to fix them.

[@mikep7810]

Nice job Andy. Good thing you got that done and caught that.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

It's a pain though

[@mikep7810]

@@FarmingFixingFabricating We had brakes going bad on our 4555 and some of the particles got into the pump and ruined the pump

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

@@mikep7810 ouch

[@bladewiper]

I am wondering if the plate cracked and took out the disk. I am a bit surprised there is only one disk as the cats I am used to always seemed to have at least two. Does J.D. offer ultra high efficiency filters ( clean out filters) ? WE would run them in the cats when we had a failure that contaminated the oil. I would keep doing the filters every few days until they are clean, filters are cheaper than a trans job. The oil will be fine as the filters will keep cleaning it. hope this is useful info.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

I'll have to check, thanks

[@Oliver-kv2mm]

Check brake pedal adjustment, make sure the are not dragging. I put a clutch in a 9400T a year after the JD dealer put one in, found the clutch cable was hanging up, not releasing completely. It caused slippage wearing the new clutch out.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Ouch

[@konstantinasnikonorycevas7615]

I think the major reason why brakes was damaged on the left side is an equal load on both sides. Actually fault was on the right side maybe seal or low hydraulic pressure in brake cylinder

[@suzylarry1]

guess we all know where that material was coming from. Nice to see friends drop by.

[@michaelberardi4126]

If you un-bolt the prime tire that hub will slide off a lot easier! Also easier to put back on.. I’ve worked on some that were rusted together.. not very fun stuff to work on..

[@rjacobs1200]

Enjoy the shop videos. Appreciate you always reading the comments Even the repeated ones Have a great Friday

[@ericjohnson9321]

Hi Andy. I say you take a red paint marker a Wright on dash. Do NOT REST FOOT ON BREAK PEDAL.. One of are operators was doing that. What gave it away was all ways left side..your friend. Chicken farmer ridgway pa.

[@recoveryrider6183]

I was surprised, usually wet disk last a long time.

[@jeffwagamon5140]

Andy; Any way you can put a pressure guage on that side for the brakes. See if the control valve is sendings a slight pressure to that brake when the pedal is all the way up? Could the linkage be out of adjustment keeping the brake partially on? I hope you can put your finger on the problem and know for sure what caused the failure. If. Not, it’s going to happing again

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

I assume operator error

[@TheRealJesseStoltzfus]

Had a company not to far from us that does custom manure hauling. Basically brand new 1038 fendt absolutely destroy the brakes on that tractor. Over $25k in repairs if I remember right.

[@robertlonsdale3826]

anything to do with he lack of brakes on American trailed equipment?

[@jeeveswooster6922]

Do you have any Fendt dealers nearby? If you try one you will never go back to Deere. The new 900 series are really good.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Kinda

[@adamfriemoth7186]

I have 2 930 fendt first tractors that get grabbed every day 1st one we got tured 10000 hrs 2 days ago

[@grizzz6884]

trouble with fent , to costly IF they break

[@peterjohnston1224]

Aren't there "chip plugs" in the hydraulic systems? Don't you open filters at service intervals to see what they're catching? How did it get to this point?

[@jamesmckay9966]

Andy You are first class.

[@SAB_Agri]

Fabulous video Andy yeah your left side that’s was bad 😲 I just done the brakes on my big New Holland they were bad but not as bad as yours😉 and was 1st set in her for new with 4800hrs on her 👍

[@keaveneyagri6423]

Hi we run valtra here brakes are discs as well but there 5discs and 3wear plates. Anytime we do brakes we soake the discs in oil b4 we put them in that way they never run dry. We often fill a transmission with say half diesal and half cheap hyd oil run it for few minutes and drain to get as much grit as possible out. Grit is torture to fully get out😣and blocks everything

[@markreetz1001]

Good video Andy. I was wondering if that pressure "ring," for lack of a better term, somehow got hung up in the extended position. Kind of like a hung up caliper. Just a thought. That's a nice looking tractor too.

[@carl2755]

Here's another thought. Is there any chance the brakes on the right side were not working, causing the left side to do all the work? That would explain both the extreme wear on the left, and the lack of wear on the right.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

They were working on the right, we had a guy riding his for on the pedal packing bunk is what my thoughts are.

[@lawrencefunk6520]

I wonder if it would help if you stuck some magnets to the outside of the filters?.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Maybe

[@Erated78]

Great video Andy, there is nothing fake about your content man. Life on the farm is a busy and ever changing life that's for sure. Curious as to why one side wore out completely while the other side was fine. I sure hope all the brake and plugged filter issues are behind you. Three cheers to Jared too, he's always busy fixing things. Cheers

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

I think the brake pedal got rode some while packing bunk. Lots of starts and stops.

[@mzr800]

Notice the Left side broke great video Andy!

[@marcusmiller5033]

Looks like to me the left brake pedal get the most use. Need to flip the doohickey that make brakes work together.👍🤣

[@Glein91]

WOW! very interesting to see John Deere brakes. I work with as tractor mechanic. Rely like this videos!!

[@howardcameron1541]

Four huge tires driven by a planetary so what turns them x 3 has to stop them x 3 I've seen bigger brakes on road racing cars. I also like that when removing the second R/H tire and wheel the whole tractor shifts left, and when they take apart the l/h side it shifts while the tech is under both the tractor and the forklift

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Yup

[@Senkino5o]

No, you haven't seen bigger brakes on road cars, look at the diameter of that plate, even if thin it is a large surface. Wet brakes do not get hot the same as dry brakes, heat is the main cause of rapid deterioration in friction materials - Clutches, brakes, etc.

[@Backyardmech1]

Were the brake pedals not latched together? Looked like the owner only used one side.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

No they usually aren't

[@robertlonsdale3826]

Just wondering Andy, given that the hitch rams are double acting would it not be possible to make a frame to attach to the linkage to safely lift the rear end of the tractor up?

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Not sure if it had power down

[@PeterIJmker]

Very intersand this video. Have you also checked the brake pressures. Maybe there is a continuous amount of brake pressure on the cylinder, causing the brake disc to wear extra

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

It seems to be working fine now

[@chrisstanding4181]

You will need to keep a eye out for unnecessary brake light action.

[@sebastianhuddlestone597]

Looks alot like who did the brake before didnt get the half shaft splines through the friction disk and bolted the bell housing up and therefore making the half shaft bend the disk. Somet along them lines anyway.

[@donhouse8720]

How many cows do you guys try to keep on the milking line at any given time

[@farmark457]

Very interesting and educational video. We can learn a lot from these.. thx.

[@roberttryon537]

If your not using the pedal your foot should be on the floor, i would be willing to bet it was caused from riding the brake. Like your videos andy very educational.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

More than likely

[@mesh1248]

U got an awesome dealer most dealers want to do it all or nothing not help a farmer do it lol

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

They treat us well

[@barrietpotter7193]

Great video what will you do with the ground that you had the oats on

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Planning wheat on it

[@bnelogic6237]

Is it not possible that the break work carried out 2 years prior could have been incorrectly reassembled? David

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

No

[@grantarollins]

I'm not familiar with the 7 series but on the 8R (8RT in my case) there is a priority valve...when the O rings go it can cause the brakes to drag and do just what you found inside this one. I would look into that so you don't end up doing this again in a couple years.

[@jimclary7309]

Great explanation video. Keep them coming.Catchya at the next one. Be safe!

[@peteschiavoni]

I’m going back through older videos, it’s a good rainy day thing to do. Lots of metallic particles. Did you change the filter a few times to clean up the fluid?

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Yea

[@nigelrowney7003]

Time for a JCB fastrac 4 large outboard discs two calipers per discs .half worn pads after 2000 hrs.awesome brakes. Interesting video Andy keep up the good work.🙉🙉👍👍😀

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Thanks

[@robertlonsdale3826]

beats me why more tractor manufacturers don,t follow the JCB example - why did any tractor designer think that allowing brake residue to circulate around precision engineered hydraulic components is acceptable? - and most tractors have had similar design for 40 plus years that I know of

[@jeramy2398]

Only 4 digit hours thats rare around your place. Thats like brand new. Lol 🤣 having that many high hour tractors is true testament to care they receive

[@geraldfrench3287]

Thanks Andy for a very informative video

[@wordlog860]

Man, I can almost count the times I've used tractor brakes, there's a few spots where the hills we have are too much, but damn. Hopefully it was a defect. I'm the quarter man in a 1&1/4 operation, so this type of fixing is way way above our pay grade =p Glad I found the channel.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Thanks

[@HGNeese3rd1]

Andy how many hours on this machine?

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

7920

[@FrancoisPiquard]

Je suis surpris qu un système de frein à disques plateaux puisse se bloquer ainsi: êtes vous sûr de n avoir pas roulé avec le frein à main serré ? C est un grand classique, car sur certains tracteurs, le frein à main ne verrouille que un seul frein arrière, ce qui expliquerait l asymétrie de la panne... Ou bien un melange non missible d huiles de frein distinctes fait par un maladroit, ce qui aurait grippé un piston?

[@hardlyableacresrsh7212]

How in the world do you get all the filings flushed out that whole system?

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Filter changes

[@norcalray7182]

So are there just brakes in the rear axle?

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

It's a differential as well

[@connorvelthuis2221]

The brakes are in the rear axle and the fourwheel drive kicks in with the brake pedal to get brakes to the front axle through the drivetrain for 4 wheel braking.

[@ronaldpiper4812]

Who would have thunk the wet brakes on dads Ford 1320 that those many years ago and I always wondered what wet brakes could be. All the truck and or car brakes. But now I have a clue what they might look like. Different brand and what a expense that must have been. But safety #1 glad with family or anyone they got breaks now for sure. And also a non farmer I have clue those noches are for on the axle. So thankful. How those work. Is filter a spin on? A couple changes would be planned all to protect i would think. Thank you a lot.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Yes spin on

[@davesanford4798]

Nice to find the problem instead of chasing it

[@jeffstrains4014]

Those counter weights look like a good 3500 pounds watching the old Clark do some bouncing ha. Looks like a fun job! Glad you decided to dedicate this job to its own video..

[@mikemiller2246]

Would it be smart to lock the brake pedals together during most of your operations with that tractor?A situation like this would be less likely to happen!

[@steves.7872]

Very interesting video Andy I enjoyed that one. I enjoy them all.

[@tebfarms939]

Is that your air compressor running in the background? Doesn’t sound like one but wondered

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Yes air compressor

[@clydeschwartz2167]

Excellent video keep up the good work 👍👍👍👍

[@mikebonge7206]

Nice video. Learned alot

[@nathansparrow1416]

why dont john Deere put a wear indicator on the brakes . all it needs is a depth gauge on the piston and a contact switch that touches when it comes out far enough. The transmission pump will be bad now. suction screen too.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

Nah

[@jamesfarnham1976]

Holy canoli...seeing that much metal sludge would blow my mind. Curious what the filters looked like after you ran it a couple days?? Great video! Jim.

[@FarmingFixingFabricating]

They were heavy

[@stevecantin3687]

Love these type of videos you do! There very informative

[@rawfarms2790]

Never a dull moment on the farm.