Another CGC Screwup - Should I switch to CBCS?

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5 ай бұрын

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@captainamerica2931
@captainamerica2931 5 ай бұрын
I switched to CBCS after they took the cap off high tier books. CGC’s greed is immeasurable. No book deserves that much to be graded. They can pound sand
@bigghoww
@bigghoww 5 ай бұрын
Yes. CBCS has always been a stronger slab. CGC is more expensive because of name, not quality. That should change.
@collegegamer9983
@collegegamer9983 5 ай бұрын
I recently sent a remarked book w the new holders from cbs during nycc, the slab is jus better
@derekrice5203
@derekrice5203 5 ай бұрын
Matt Nelson’s interview told me, CGC doesn’t care. Your interaction says they don’t care. You don’t fix bad service by lower your prices a few dollars, fix your bad service and easily tampered with slabs.
@jtwestlund
@jtwestlund 5 ай бұрын
Matt for the last 15 years even before he was at CGC has always been a stand up guy.
@T.R.R.Jolkien
@T.R.R.Jolkien 5 ай бұрын
@@jtwestlund what happened recently then? This scam is huge they are going thru
@ScarecrOmega
@ScarecrOmega 5 ай бұрын
Typical Insurance, they gladly take payments but as soon as they need to pay out they hide, or find loopholes to do anything but pay.
@slickjolly
@slickjolly 5 ай бұрын
Make the switch. You'll be happier overall. Big influencers and dealers need to start the movement to induce CGC to make the necessary changes. They act like a monopoly and deserve all they are getting from the community.
@radysnader
@radysnader 5 ай бұрын
I believe the “shipping” damage statement is damage that occurs getting to them. They should take pictures of received books or at least the box. I had a similar issue in the past and I know I package them as if I was shipping the US constitution.
@edwardfox9550
@edwardfox9550 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. If it was shipping damage you could use the pics to get insurance from the carrier. Since they didn't do this they most definitely dropped the books during their grading.
@Supertomscustoms
@Supertomscustoms 5 ай бұрын
If people stop saying and accepting “CBCS slabs sell for less” the market would magically start to even out. It’s perpetuated and regurgitated so often it’s become a reality.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
You are right, perception is everything. I'll be doing a review, and if the experience is good they'll get a positive review from me.. maybe that will be a small bit of help for that issue
@jactarawadley6037
@jactarawadley6037 5 ай бұрын
Stop sending books to cgc. CBCS has better slabs.
@schmuckytheraiderbear5043
@schmuckytheraiderbear5043 5 ай бұрын
Yes. Switch to CBCS. CGC's reputation is crumbling. I only buy CBCS these days.
@christiandannunzio4387
@christiandannunzio4387 5 ай бұрын
Jim, sorry you had this experience. Your explanation in this video is perfect, and you have behaved like a complete gentleman. Good luck.
@tomkmetz6998
@tomkmetz6998 5 ай бұрын
I submitted 20 perfect books to CGC with a 9.6 pre-screen. Only two of them were slabbed at 9.6 while the other 18 were returned with a corner crunch. It obviously happened at CGC, but they refused to admit this and blamed it on USPS. They dodged responsibility so they would not have to reimburse me for the full declared value. After much back and forth, they did offer free pressing and re-grading. I ended up with several 9.8s. But still a number of perfect books were damaged beyond what a pressing could repair. Today I will only use CGC for re-holdering old CGC slabs that I might buy and particularly compelling signature events. The lion's share of any future submissions will be going to CBCS. They didn't need to be perfect. They just needed to be honest. To squeeze the maximum short-term dollars out of me, they sacrificed all of that future business. Plus, I have yet to see a CBCS case with a Newton ring.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
Doesn't surprise me, but sorry you went through the same thing. I can't wait to try CBCS!
@nixknacks-comics
@nixknacks-comics 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure you send them in as they direct. In a gemini inside another box. It's beyond me how they can claim that it's USPS. Can you imagine the condition the outer box would have to be in??? Ridiculous.
@malus911
@malus911 5 ай бұрын
Go for it. I use CBCS for most of my stuff. I don't trade grading companies, I trade graded comics, and since they are the top two (dominant force in the market), I deal with what I figure is the more consistent company. I also don't deal with Newton rings. Plus, the new labels are great and the cases are more sturdy. This is my opinion...
@jefferydecker6652
@jefferydecker6652 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Jim for this video, I wanted to send some of my books in but have been super nervous. This video helped
@DracoBigD
@DracoBigD 5 ай бұрын
I submitted 8 books to cgc recently, 4 have broken slabs or damaged books. CGC is a terrible company, I’m also switching to CBCS.
@WillKat66
@WillKat66 5 ай бұрын
Really frustrating. CGC losing a lot of customers after all the QC screwed ups. Yes it’s a scam. CBCS gaining more CGC customers. Thinking about sending some books to CBCS like the new label.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
I have a lot of thinking to do. I may reach out to CBCS and let them know my frustrations, see if they want to meet for an interview. Get them to explain how they are better, assuming it's the case (pun intended).
@holyharlot5222
@holyharlot5222 5 ай бұрын
Your patience and kindness is more than they deserve, frankly. CGC being polite on the phone is not customer service. Fixing problems to the satisfaction of the customer is customer service. They have no shame. I would die of embarrassment if I dropped someone's book. How is a press going to turn a crunched corner back to a 9.8? It's nonsense.
@Chrislfaison
@Chrislfaison 5 ай бұрын
I know everyone makes mistakes, but my next submission is going to CBCS.
@Criner05
@Criner05 5 ай бұрын
CBCS also drops comics. The first time a submitted to CBCS was a batch of a handful of comics last year. One of them was Nightwing #100 2nd print. I bought it on new release day and put it into a bag and board without reading it. It came back an 8.5 and had a big crunch on the bottom corner opposite the spine. I know it wasn't damaged in shipping because one comic from the same batch received a 9.8 without pressing.
@gregparks1785
@gregparks1785 5 ай бұрын
That sucks, man. I’m sorry you had to deal with such incompetence. CGC just keeps shooting themselves in the foot. I hope this leads to a lot of people switching to CBCS as long as they can do better.
@kryptoniterocks8245
@kryptoniterocks8245 5 ай бұрын
I will be submitting my books ro CBCS as there cases are amazingly the labels look fantastic now and graders are top of the game unlike CGC poor quality service. That’s my opinion from my experience
@a3marketing991
@a3marketing991 5 ай бұрын
I'm not leaving CGC, but will start submitting to CBCS as well. I do believe CBCS is more strict on grading, which is great for buyers. It's possible that sellers would rather submit to CGC and hoping for a higher grade than they deserve. IMHO.
@thomaseller5715
@thomaseller5715 5 ай бұрын
Looking forward to your CBCS submission. I've thought about trying them myself.
@offkilter9364
@offkilter9364 5 ай бұрын
How big are the grins on the faces of the CBCS guys right now 😂.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
LOL
@martin_wilson81
@martin_wilson81 5 ай бұрын
Everyone loves CGC until they get screwed over, which is inevitable, because that's when CGC's true colors really shine! Sorry this happened to you!
@718comics
@718comics 5 ай бұрын
Nobody complains when they get that 9.8 😂😂😂
@THINKFORYOURSELF-yy8ip
@THINKFORYOURSELF-yy8ip 5 ай бұрын
Give CBCS a try As someone who uses Both CBCS and CGC I have always been satisfied with everything CBCS has graded and encapsulated never needed customer service so I have no idea how they stack up to CGC customer service I would be interested in a video on your thoughts on CBCS if you do submit books to them
@davidsamuelson2089
@davidsamuelson2089 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been at this for decades, well before CGC existed & I have yet to hear a single time ANY GRADING CO. has admitted to ruining a book. Never. Think about how many books they all handle daily & no one ever dropped a book, screwed up a press, lost something? C’mon.
@ronnielava3784
@ronnielava3784 5 ай бұрын
You have given so much business to CGC that they should be treating a great customer like you much better. I'd switch! Someday I hope you can helm, oversee your own grading service...your knowledge is much greater, your standards are much higher than theirs, and you've outgrown them...I'd trust you with my books more than I would cgc. You need a rich partner to develop a new business!
@KimNguyen-zm7gi
@KimNguyen-zm7gi 5 ай бұрын
No QC. Thank goodness for your content.
@RafaustComics
@RafaustComics 5 ай бұрын
Great video! I've submitted a number of books to CBCS recently and have liked the service, slabs, and new labels. No restored purple label is also a plus for displaying books in my collection. They put Restored and the type of restoration on the blue label without having to look up grader's notes. I featured that in my recent Avengers #4 unboxing if you'd like to see what it looks like.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
Sure, will check it out. Thanks!
@remypinoy
@remypinoy 5 ай бұрын
My 1st and only submissions were at SDCC 2023 last July. What was supposed to be a "40 day" turnaround turned into 4-5 months. Apparently, there was a clerical error which made my account appear to be not mine even though my CC they charged has my name. Then because of this error they were not able to send it. So, after fixing the clerical error they also had to re-press and re-regrade my books. Also, there were several times when they charged me twice for the services they had to redo because of their errors. They gave me credit for future submissions, but honestly I'm going to CBCS.
@Mazzter88
@Mazzter88 5 ай бұрын
This is disgraceful-where is CGC’s quality control? I give you a lot of credit for handling this so respectfully-I’ve been collecting since the 80’s and this is why I haven’t submitted any books yet-it legitimately seems like they really don’t care
@mandofoe7447
@mandofoe7447 5 ай бұрын
I would really love to see you submit books to cbcs and see how their grading matches yours and see what kind of experience you have. I’ve sent probably a dozen books to them and been more than satisfied with the experience. Love to see some videos from you on this
@michaelzborowski4683
@michaelzborowski4683 5 ай бұрын
I have been waiting for my first ever submission of 9 books for 9 months. After 8 months they finally admitted that they had lost my FF 48.Not the whole submission just the most valuable book I had. Now that we know there was theft going on, who knows where it went. They seem not to have a chain of custody or secure work areas or any professional ethos. Its just a shame, I worry for the future of the hobby, We all have to change to CBCS and find out why no body trusts the grading at CBCS and get that changed! Thanks for your call to action.
@BrooklynAvenue
@BrooklynAvenue 5 ай бұрын
Every system has two defenses - one is to make you give up. The other is to make you blow up. The way they activate it is to be nice to your face and then ignore you.
@chuckhiggins7666
@chuckhiggins7666 5 ай бұрын
Switching now to CBCS
@mr.s1143
@mr.s1143 5 ай бұрын
I went with CBCS and never looked back.
@BigD9176
@BigD9176 5 ай бұрын
I love CBCS and I’ve had nothing but great experiences. The downside though, as a comic book store owner and book seller, CGC books command a MUCH higher price. It’s ridiculous and shouldn’t be the case, but it is. I wish CBCS would try and capitalize on all of the recent CGC shenanigans.
@scottisaacson6730
@scottisaacson6730 5 ай бұрын
They did that to me too with books they were supposed to remove ct. mailed them untouched a few days later…
@mikebutler3239
@mikebutler3239 5 ай бұрын
The run around back and forth bs . 😢 sorry to hear it . If cgc keeps on mess up I'm sure the price might drop some. We will see.
@MarkHicks
@MarkHicks 5 ай бұрын
I had a similar experience but my books were sent in through a facilitator so I couldn't prove who dropped them. All I got was a bunch of finger pointing. CGC said they received the books smashed, the facilitator claims the books were mint when they sent them. Nothing I could do, and no one was going to accept blame.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
Been there done that. In one of my first submissions a book came back with a big ink blob that wasn't there before sending. I sent through a presser and of course, he didn't do it.. and CGC wouldn't even answer my emails. So yeah... not much integrity nowadays.
@grumpy_goose
@grumpy_goose 5 ай бұрын
Go with CBCS, you will be happier with them for sure! I know I am! CBCS has much better cases and customer service.
@mikes6368
@mikes6368 5 ай бұрын
Honestly cbcs has been pretty good lately … I personally prefer them but still use cgc about the same amount as cbcs
@Wiser1FOREVER
@Wiser1FOREVER 5 ай бұрын
That's the biggest problem with the idea of ever sending books in for grading! CGC doesn't really guarantee anything! I'm assuming they still have that disclaimer of responsibility that goes hand-in-hand with your submissions. You wiil always be in the position of going through the hassle of contacting them when something goes wrong & doing the extra work to prove what happened before they ultimately make it right, if they feel inclined!
@davidsamuelson2089
@davidsamuelson2089 5 ай бұрын
The press won’t do a damaged book any good but they’ll say they tired & blame it on shipping damage. Plus you assume the books are all 9.8 - they’ll never ever never ever (purposely emphasized) give you your est value anyway but they might reimburse you that 7.5 value.
@michaeltan4204
@michaeltan4204 5 ай бұрын
That happened to books at CGC nasty corner crunch my modern books 9.8 candidates came back 7.5s
@oliverortiz5226
@oliverortiz5226 5 ай бұрын
There is nothing more you could have done in my opinion. I understand the CGC label selling for more which I hope changes in the future. I have both CGC and CBCS graded books. I do prefer the CBCS slabs for the quality of their slabs. I collect for my PC so I don't have a bias of CGC over CBCS but CBCS has a great product in my opinion.
@VidTubeWatch
@VidTubeWatch 5 ай бұрын
I remember the video regarding this. I was very interested in seeing the result. It may be, actually it is time to switch Jim. I have a few CBCS slabs that look awesome. I've got a couple of PGX as well. I have never personally submitted raw books, but I need to. I'm thinking of going straight to CBCS if I don't start hearing better customer experiences regarding CGC.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
That's good to hear, I'm putting together a CBCS submission right now. I still have 100 books at CGC right now though, so it''ll take time to cycle through them
@ThePinkfloyd51
@ThePinkfloyd51 5 ай бұрын
CGC sucks.
@davidfausel9029
@davidfausel9029 5 ай бұрын
So sorry you're still dealing with this. They really had a chance to make things right, and do what they could to help fix the situation. And they totally drop the ball.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, David. I almost didn't put out this video.. but I think people need to know the potential pitfalls (pun intended) of submitting.
@davidfausel9029
@davidfausel9029 5 ай бұрын
@@ImproveCollectingComics Absolutely. And for someone who has used their service as much as you have, a situation like this can be very telling. People should know. 👍
@spinetickspressing
@spinetickspressing 5 ай бұрын
You know Jim, every time I'm at a CON, most dealers 80%, are selling CBCS slabs.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
Cool, what's your guess on the % value compared to CGC? And do books move a lot slower?
@spinetickspressing
@spinetickspressing 5 ай бұрын
@ImproveCollectingComics I don't see these slabs selling, but the dealers have large numbers of them here in Texas. Maybe it's because of CBCSs proximity. I'd love to see someone do a fair analysis of CGC sales vs CBCS since the scandal..
@21Million
@21Million 5 ай бұрын
while watching this video I now realize this happened to me once. a 9.8 robotech macross #2 came back with a folded back cover and a 8.5. now i know it was them
@collegegamer9983
@collegegamer9983 5 ай бұрын
cgc is going downhill while cbcs is jus gettin better
@Criner05
@Criner05 5 ай бұрын
CGC is dead to me for a number of reasons. The final nail in the coffin was the recent scandal. Now every CGC slab is worthless.
@collegegamer9983
@collegegamer9983 5 ай бұрын
@@Criner05 they also aren't improving the slabs, they also don't know how many people have actually been doin this, they know of one guy! it makes you question how long has he been doin this and who has he told
@JamesDf9621
@JamesDf9621 5 ай бұрын
Ya they f up bad,, my silver surfer #1 was 7.5 thy turn it in 4.0 cgc is lost there mind lately. Went through same thing bud , , thinking go through cbcs.
@CallumEaston
@CallumEaston 25 күн бұрын
Wow! Sounds like CGC's internal communication could do with some work! I've heard so much drama around CGC, if CBCS produce better slabs anyway then I think more people should start using CBCS and start levelling out the playing field.
@stevewhite4533
@stevewhite4533 5 ай бұрын
CBCS, nuff said
@lisafaltersack5535
@lisafaltersack5535 5 ай бұрын
my local cbc store uses cgc and had the same thing happen to him. He had alot of books damaged in the corners, mostly newer books and all in the corners.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
There are a lot of comments saying it's happening a lot.. kinda scary
@Kurkthulu
@Kurkthulu 5 ай бұрын
I feel the only reason I stick with CGC at this point is for signature witnessing at cons and for their special signings. But as I'm getting deeper in to clean and pressing, I might give CBCS a try. Has anyone done a comparison on each company's grading system? i.e. a CGC 8.5 vs a CBCS 8.5?
@comicbossone2411
@comicbossone2411 4 ай бұрын
Yes.
@bullvied
@bullvied 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully they will do right by you with the video going out. Sadly this is just an example of how they treat everyday customers. I worked retail for 12 years, and would do everything possible to make sure my customers where taken care of. I knew my job was dependent on repeat sales. It's very sad what's accepted as customer service these days.
@johnnydropkicks
@johnnydropkicks 5 ай бұрын
To answer the question in the title, I think now would be a good time to switch.
@ericwilliams1845
@ericwilliams1845 5 ай бұрын
I mean I think when you play the 9.8 game here, it’s only a matter of time before this thing happens. It shouldn’t ever but the reality is the people initially handling and slabbing the books at CGC are minimum wage workers. Errors a plenty. And to think another company doesn’t have the same things happen is also short minded. You gotta pick your poison…maybe a cbcs switchover will serve a person well for years until they decide to ship your books to someone else who isn’t honest and your $5000 worth of books are gone forever. Not to mention a measly $1000 credit is offered to you for something beyond your control
@chrissnyder6166
@chrissnyder6166 5 ай бұрын
Try a batch at CBCS, ones you don't want to sell maybe. I've used them and they come back great looking. However I feel they are harsher graders, maybe Harry got a job there! They charge about the same and their Fmv limit is higher. The new labels look nicer too.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
I'm putting together a submission right now. :)
@WiggleBabies
@WiggleBabies 5 ай бұрын
Oh man I'm scared to submit now. I'm new to this and I have a stack of some comics I would like to send in, but holy shit...
@rosemarys.8545
@rosemarys.8545 5 ай бұрын
Ever since cgc was bought by Blackrock and Jay Z their quality and care has dropped. They also suffer from an insider book trading problem. You would be surprised how many times that the book you sent in was not the one you received back.
@Irishman661
@Irishman661 5 ай бұрын
That’s such a bummer
@Thehumblecollectoruk
@Thehumblecollectoruk 5 ай бұрын
Not sure as i dont send items of grading as value in only what someon willing pay if you sell .and the market as well .
@jonbreece6688
@jonbreece6688 5 ай бұрын
I made the switch and couldn't be Happier
@jamisonlm3
@jamisonlm3 5 ай бұрын
It's a bit funny watching this video after I saw something similar earlier this week. I was looking at a book on ebay. It was a more modern book, mid to late 90s, and cgc gave it a 9.0. As I was looking at the pictures, I was wondering why this book got such a low grade. It looked great from the pictures the seller included in the listing. Curious, I looked at cgc's page on it and after looking at the pictures they include now, I immedietely notced that corner crunch. It was difficult to see it in the listing even knowing where to look for it. It looks like cgc dropped that seller's book too because I can't see anyone submitting a book with that kind of damage. Something else I notced was just how filthy the slab was too. There was so much dust on it and this was from the pictures cgc took! I'm not sure if that's on the outside of the slab or inside, but it was a huge turnoff.
@mildomiller7386
@mildomiller7386 5 ай бұрын
I've only sent one slab into CBCS and that was through a facilitator at a Con. No issues there. HOWEVER I did have a wonky thing with being able to log into my account on their website (about 2 years ago same time as the submission). Tried several times over several months with customer service and they were no help at all. Like several have mentioned they wouldn't answer, wouldn't return phone calls or emails, when I did talk to someone it seemed to be someone outside of CBCS so not in house (they all had accents like they were from oversea). I finally gave up and never got the issue resolved at that time. Then randomly mid last year I got an email from them saying it was fixed. I went to their website and put in all the information I had originally set up and it started working. Very strange. Maybe their customer service has changed and is better recently. I don't know. I do know the few times I've called CGC to inquire about stuff, they always answered, are very friendly, and seem to be onsite.
@Wiser1FOREVER
@Wiser1FOREVER 5 ай бұрын
Additionally, based on all the videos I've watched from any other KZbinr, CGC can't be trusted no matter how many "improvements" they make to their process. There will always be slackers who couldn't care less about the quality of the work done at these grading companies! You might occasionally get lucky with a few employees, but overall it's all a crap-shoot or roll of the dice!
@Seerojascomics
@Seerojascomics 5 ай бұрын
Hey bud I would think on it but I understand it what you went thru my suggestion don’t let one thing make you change companies cause in the long run you will lose money and wind up going back to cgc. I’ve seen it happen to plenty of people. Like in business it’s never always gonna be good some time stuff happens. But if it continues to happen then switch.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
It could be that I send my lower value stuff or PC books to CBCS
@alexandreb1090
@alexandreb1090 5 ай бұрын
Received 3 slabs recently with multiple scuffs that seem to be on the inner sleeve of the slab. It's unacceptable.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
That's a problem in a LOT of slabs now.. but you have to hold them just right in the light sometimes. Very annoying...
@jumpmankicks2318
@jumpmankicks2318 5 ай бұрын
Is the market for trading and selling cbcs decent ? I have a few signed comics with coas, and I read cgc won’t give me a gold label (wasn’t a cgc guy present when they got signed )but cbcs will give me that gold label. Is a gold label cbcs slab, compete with a cgc slab? Seems everyone has more cgc then cbcs in the market right now
@halinar1
@halinar1 2 ай бұрын
I can't believe what just came in the mail to me today. I've never submitted a "like new" book that didn't come back at least a 9.6 until today when one that was in this category with no visible flaws came back a 9.0. Someone was drinking on the job apparently. I got back a 8.5 (which I expected) which is no way a half point off between the two.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 2 ай бұрын
I had that happen before.. note said "tanning" and I got 9.0, but I swear it had only the slightest yellowing.. I mean just a hint of it, and I have gotten numerous books back that were darker. So I resubmitted and got the 9.8.
@Bar-Lord
@Bar-Lord 5 ай бұрын
If I were in the business of flipping, I’d be tempted by CBCS given how much you’ve been burned in the past. That said, the market awards more value to CGC so if you’re flipping, that’s where you sadly need to go to maximize your profit margin. All my slabs are PC only so I don’t flip. I only have experience with CBCS, but I love their slab and their new label.
@ricbeau3761
@ricbeau3761 5 ай бұрын
If you can have the same amount of money when you sell them. For now it is not the case. But who knows what will happen in the future ?
@RobertWeir
@RobertWeir 5 ай бұрын
What a joke . “Shipping damage “ They can just use that as an excuse any time they damage anyone’s books ? Don’t they even look at your track record? Like don’t they have a file on someone as a customer ?? Is it worth letting them know you have a KZbin channel ?
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
Not sure on that last question.. I kinda want to stay anonymous and not get on their radar for better or worse. I just want decent treatment for me and everyone
@RobertWeir
@RobertWeir 5 ай бұрын
@@ImproveCollectingComics exactly it’s a double edged sword.. I probably would’ve played it the same way.. but that’s a nice little get out of jail, free card they have .. shipping damage CGC should have to take a picture of the package and prove it was shipping just like you have to had taken a picture of the books to send to them
@joehenry9546
@joehenry9546 5 ай бұрын
They’re giving you the run around so they don’t have to pay you. But, I would be pissed if this happened to me.
@jamesz4872
@jamesz4872 5 ай бұрын
Over the last 4-5 years CGC modern books have been over graded consistently. I will trust CBCS & PGX over CGC anyday. PGX had a rough start, but these last few years they have been far superior to CGC
@CharlesThomas-vs8ir
@CharlesThomas-vs8ir 5 ай бұрын
I understand brother. They tore my 9.6-9.8 and gave me a 8.5. Smh
@drspidey4739
@drspidey4739 5 ай бұрын
If you submit long enough and enough books, you are going to get some damaged books by CGC. All we can do is let them know about it. Unfortunately, CBCS is not much better. Their customer service is much worse. CGC at least you can talk to someone in customer service and they get back to you. Bottom line is that CGC slabs sell for much much more and sell 5x easier than a CBCS slab. That is not going to change. Look at how much you slabbed CGC books have been going for (you are killing it). No dealer is going to leave that amount of money on the table.
@weasellyone2
@weasellyone2 5 ай бұрын
I've always got a response from CGC, CBCS has NEVER answered any emails or questions I have sent them. So CGC at least have customer service, maybe not the proper response but you at least can speak to someone. I like the look of the CGC case better, it's hard to explain but they are cleaner around the edge of the slab. CBCS is very busy because the inner well seam shows much more and the edge of the slab is ridged which isn't clean like on CGC slabs. I have a couple signature verified slabs coming back with the new label so like you I'm hopeful they look better.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, I'll take a close look at the CBCS slabs when they come back and do a review on them
@99dsm1
@99dsm1 5 ай бұрын
Well if it is a shipping error should they also be helping you make a shipping claim?
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
Too late anyway, they didn't contact me when they arrived at CGC "damaged"...
@kennythecomiccollector
@kennythecomiccollector 5 ай бұрын
Ah man, that sucks bro! IMO: CGC completely dropped the ball on this one. Issue after issue just keeps occurring with them and that is definitely affecting customer confidence. I've only been collecting for a couple of years, so I'm more so outside looking in and observing all that has been transpiring over the past couple of years. I own close to 5,000 comics and about 75 of them are CGC graded comics. I've never sent in a book to be graded myself. From what I've gathered, I think that over time, the customers have created a Catch-22 for themselves by elevating CGC so much higher than the other services, specifically CBCS. I was like, wasn't both companies started by the same person? Competition is a good thing that helps everyone win. The companies must continue to innovate and improve in product offerings, service and price to be competitive against their competition and the customer benefits from all of it. I'm not picking on you bro, but I've seen several other channels make rant videos about damaged books, cracked cases during shipping, lost books and bad grading. In the next video, they are like, here's the next batch of comics that I'm sending in. I guess my question is, what are consumers willing to do in order to encourage CGC to do better. If people continue hold them so much higher than any of the other grading services, what incentive does CGC has to do better. Consumers do this all the time in other industries, but don't seems to want to do that in this scenario. The best way to vote your disapproval of a product or service is through the withholding our your $$. I get that there's a lot of money tied up in CGC graded books and people don't want to take the hit. However, if the status quo continues, then the hit is going to come anyways as the hits to customer confidence continues to mount. I hope you're compensated properly for your loss and that you make the best decision for you going forward. I wish you all the best my guy!
@ronnieburton322
@ronnieburton322 5 ай бұрын
they crushed 8 out 17 books on a prescreen i sent in. they wont even answer me. one was a metal cover from nycc they bent the corner. i was never a big cgc fan but now ill never use them
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
:(
@djmoonchild01
@djmoonchild01 5 ай бұрын
I'll take em😅
@jamesz4872
@jamesz4872 5 ай бұрын
All the books from these CGC scams/scandals combined do not begin to touch the tip of how bad CGC books are nowadays. 25% to 30% of every 9.8/9.6 book they have graded over the last 5 years are over graded. Look at your CGC comics, does the serial cgc number number begin with either a 3 or a 4? If yes that means it has be graded in the last few years and there is a good chance it is over graded. Now CGC was amazing accurate with their grades back in the day, but not anymore.
@PabloDiabloTreasures
@PabloDiabloTreasures 5 ай бұрын
CGC is a total mess, I hate their slabs and I noticed many times that they make terrible mistakes and grade 9.8 books with visible issues.
@GODemon13
@GODemon13 5 ай бұрын
Or you can just buy raw ungraded copies at a fraction of the price and bag & board yourself. You can pull it out and read/look at it any time you want.
@keithoneil9894
@keithoneil9894 5 ай бұрын
You might as well try CBCS out. What's the worst that could happen?
@djmoonchild01
@djmoonchild01 5 ай бұрын
This is what happens when a corporation gets too big and becomes a monopoly..they do not care..
@waynestark9375
@waynestark9375 5 ай бұрын
Why would you not sell for what CGC is going for. The grading service is more strict then CGC. The slabs are more Superior at cbcs.
@gorillaproductions73
@gorillaproductions73 5 ай бұрын
The reholder division seems to be the weak link in CGC and the book intake. My last submission had similar weird damage that is uncharacteristic from my submissions. I am going to take pictures before I submit from now on. I wonder if this is how the reholder scammer scum discovered the weakness in CGC’s system 🤔 Pretty quick to process your books and ship them back to you without checks and balances 🖖🏾
@StillOnly35c
@StillOnly35c 5 ай бұрын
I would ring them rather than email; I'd also reach out to Matt Nelson too if you can.
@msmith2033
@msmith2033 5 ай бұрын
Sorry you had that ordeal. It does suck when someone screws up and ruin something perfect like you had CGC does have good customer service a lot of times and they do try to help out but it’s so hard to prove where the books got damaged and companies don’t want to admit that they screwed up but I do think with the price drops and the way they’re handling their current scam issues I think CGC is still the best option.
@macorourke2222
@macorourke2222 5 ай бұрын
Great video Brother. Thanks for sharing Your passion and adventures from Toronto Ontario Canada 😎 👍 ♥️ ✨️✨️✨️✨️📚📚📚📚📚✨️✨️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️✨️✨️💯💯💯💯💯
@donomar7070
@donomar7070 5 ай бұрын
This is what they do. They’re so messed up don’t fight it it just gets worse. Don’t become a target.
@90MHOTMUD
@90MHOTMUD 5 ай бұрын
MY FRIEND JUST GOT A LOT OF BOOKS BACK FROM CBCS.. THE SLABS ARE 100% BETTER AND STRONGER THAN CGC BY FAR..
@Asian_Connection
@Asian_Connection 5 ай бұрын
Keep up the heat. CgC will never give you a rating above an 8.0 again!
@daniellubben1528
@daniellubben1528 5 ай бұрын
CBCS is like Hulk 180. CGC is like Hulk 181. One should be more valuable but for some reason it isnt.
@ImproveCollectingComics
@ImproveCollectingComics 5 ай бұрын
Very nice lol
@richardlisiura3025
@richardlisiura3025 5 ай бұрын
CGC stills offers better resale at the same grade. I don't see any value in going with CBCS. unless resale value isn't your primary goal.
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