Another Look at the Thermaltake Xray

[@PatrickLaske]

"I went to the store and bought this thing to win an argument on KZbin." I love this channel.

[@minecraftlover555]

KZbin*

[@stevesstuff1450]

Exactly.... one of the best channels... :-) Go buy a car stereo and try and fit it into your PC...duh!! Oh well... trolls never learn, or don't want to learn ;-) LGR.. you do your 'thing'; an LGR 'Thing', and don't worry about the idiots!!

[@michaeldickens1101]

That is something I would totally do, it’s satisfying seeing others (like Clint) do the same That said, now that he got the car stereo to prove his point, part of me expects him to do a video on using a car radio at home

[@minecraftlover555]

@t c what's wrong?

[@Lafayette_Ronald_Hubbard]

@@stevesstuff1450 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYTVqaF9rZusrLs

[@saturn580]

Congratulations! You have now officially put more thought into the practicality and design of this device than the company that produced it.

[@speedwaynutt]

Next thing you know they are going to tell us that the lucky rock from thrifts is not even lucky.

[@michealsickbert5845]

The lucky rock IS actually a car accessory. It fits in the 52.5" trunk bay and provides added traction for rear wheel drive cars.

[@jaythomas3180]

@@michealsickbert5845 And helps your buddy get his window open when he locks his keys in his car.

[@MediocreTCG]

@@jaythomas3180 MULTI-PURPOSE

[@annjrue]

@@michealsickbert5845 Not compatible with certain Volkswagen automobiles. See manual for details.

[@notarealchannel2889]

The lucky rock is a lie

[@generalbyzantine8735]

It's clearly meant to go in the Hot Wheels computer!

[@braydenh190]

Do it

[@aaronbrandenburg2441]

LOL I knew that was coming.

[@dimensiongamer534]

We need this :) even if someone just photoshops it.

[@generalbyzantine8735]

@loliquatsch The flame stickers on the side aren't just decoration, they're a warning! :)

[@IRMacGuyver]

@@generalbyzantine8735 No the flame stickers make it go faster.

[@1903tx]

If the notch on the corner were for resting a cig, then the removable tray would also have a notch in the same place. I think the corner notch is there to facilitate removal of the tray.

[@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo]

That's what I thought when I saw this the first time.

[@MichaelJONeill333]

Was thinking the same exact thing.

[@drunkenpumpkins7401]

Well ya all never smoked in ya life did ya? A plastic ash tray like that will just melt like a ice-cream in Kentucky during the summer. There is a reason those puppies where made from metal, glass or real strong plastic. I've smoked for over 50 years now and never seen a plastic ashtray like that.

[@SteelSkin667]

There is a remote possibility that they intended it to be an ashtray with an indented metal tray, but bailed and made it a cup holder instead. To be honest it's a poor design for either use, but probably handy to store small objects such as memory cards or dongles.

[@ironcito1101]

What confuses me is why a perfectly symmetrical, circular thing needs a notch for lining it up. What difference does it make if it's put in another way?

[@whizwart1]

It's disappointing people are making you feel like you have to justify yourself. You consistently put up intriguing, quality content. You don't NEED to click-bait because you make it interesting, particularity with your enthusiasm. I just watched you plug stuff in and read numbers, and I had fun with it :)

[@ScribblyDave]

whizwart1 LGR could do a video about an empty brown box and I’d watch it. Click bait? Those people are idiots :)

[@Karmy.]

When the first real episode of LGR Thrifts was uploaded way back in 2014 (god has it seriously been almost 6 years?!) I remember thinking that there was no way he could make thrifting funny or interesting but I was proven very wrong

[@mastervaderm16]

I’m honestly surprised people questioned him

[@whispy7195]

whizwart1 True!

[@jenna6132]

@@ScribblyDave Ah man, the corrugation on this box has a really weird pattern. Hexagons, look at that. Neat.

[@ffmdotcom]

Well - its clear to me. It goes into your PC that's in your car - problem solved - everybody happy!

[@aaronbrandenburg2441]

That would make it a car PC. PC mod right

[@andydoane]

Obviously, the next step is to install a car stereo in a PC case.

[@filipstefanovski2077]

@@noot5929 And put it in a car

[@filipstefanovski2077]

Lol it should word with two 12V molex cables

[@proCaylak]

@@filipstefanovski2077 does it excel at it?

[@freednighthawk]

I did build a custom computer like 20 years ago with a car radio and 6.5" speakers as it's primary audio source.

[@powerfulshammy]

Also will doom hang if cigarette lighter running

[@TailRecursion]

From a friend who owned one of these: "It works fine for ashing in, just don't stub your butt out in it. The cup holder holds a 20oz soda bottle perfectly, and the removable cup is for 12oz cans."

[@aaronbrandenburg2441]

And that would definitely work.

[@philevans4021]

The big thing is it says it's a "5.25" drive bay kit". No car would have a 5.25" drive bay!

[@EndOfLineTech]

Jason Smith *crickets*

[@johnjurmu5669]

I'm pretty sure someone at Tesla had suggested adding a 5.25" after watching the video.

[@michaeldickens1101]

Jason Smith cars don’t drive, they’re driven... Well, except for self driving cars

[@patriotbarrow]

Anyone who complains about this being made for being put into a car has either never driven or figured out how a car stereo works.

[@aaronbrandenburg2441]

@@johnjurmu5669 actually there is things that would look pretty cool in car that would fit in that.

[@mattmalishefski788]

A 5.25" peripheral that has two things cars already have, with an incompatible power plug... *iTs MeAnt FoR cArS*

[@aaronbrandenburg2441]

Yep.

[@sh4dowde]

Also: Made by a company that is known for their computer accessories.

[@JordyValentine]

As a former mechanic and a guy who's into computers, that was painful to hear haha

[@JeffreyPiatt]

It's the internet no one is as smart as they think they are when commenting

[@owllymannstein7113]

It literally says "5.25 drive bay" on the fucking box.

[@dungeonseeker3087]

It says right at the top, five and a quarter inch DRIVE BAY adapter. Sometimes I worry about the future of humanity.

[@dhairya8238]

Lmao

[@teflonravager]

only sometimes?

[@keiyakins]

Do you not have drive bays in your car? But how do you put in the boot floppy?

[@tyttuut]

@@keiyakins Cars don't have boot floppies anymore, dummy. They have boot CDs. They're like boot floppies, but you only need to replace the CD every 700 miles instead of every 1.44 miles.

[@niclikescakes]

i installed rgb thermaltake fans in my car the other day and they are working great on the closed loop radiator

[@kevwang0712]

Taiwanese professional translator here, can confirm that back in the day we had bad translations, and still do actually: A new metro line just opened up in Taipei this Sunday, when I took a ride today (Tuesday) I deliberately read all the English translations, one of which said "The train will leave" where it should have said "The train is about to depart", as if the trains have free will or something (although the line is indeed fully automated, so calling it free will maybe isn't that much of a stretch…?)

[@kittysplode]

"the train will leave" is actually a marginally better translation than "the train is about to depart"--no human being would speak the latter.

[@UnitSe7en]

@@kittysplode But translating is not about writing colloquialisms of speech. "The train is about to depart" is something that is completely non-ambiguous, whereas "The train will leave", while it might make sense in common parlance, it is both non-professional and only makes sense colloquially in context; It has other meanings and demonstrates poor verbiage.

[@kittysplode]

@@UnitSe7en i said marginally for a reason. related, nothing you just said is how english works.

[@UnitSe7en]

@@kittysplode I mean, you have 2 people here telling you that you're wrong and explaining why, but, sure, you go on believing. Live free.

[@UnitSe7en]

@@kittysplode A crutch for what? Nothing you say makes any sense. Your opinion that the translation is better is wrong, you don't seem to understand what you're saying in both of your replies, you said _marginally,_ yes, so what? Not how English works? What does that mean? Explaining why a thing is better than another thing and using reasons isn't how English works? ...What? Then you try to accuse me of using it as a crutch? ...What?! Holy fskcing shit. Just, stop. You're right, they are indeed a dime a dozen.

[@ShadowTheHedgehog85]

Ever wondered why the car stereo sizes are called "DIN" ? Because they where standardized by the German Institute for Standardization (Deutsches Institut für Normung - DIN) as the DIN 75490. That was internationally adopted in 1984 in ISO 7736.

[@milfhunter6999]

ShadowTheHedgehog85 Nett to know

[@benh.635]

Is this the same reason why the DIN connectors (DIN-5, Mini DIN, etc.) are named as such?

[@ShadowTheHedgehog85]

@@benh.635 Yes that's the reason. They are standardized in DIN 41524, 45322, 45326 and 45329.

[@benh.635]

ShadowTheHedgehog85 cool! Sort of like all the IEEE connectors I guess

[@ShadowTheHedgehog85]

@@benh.635 Well it's just the round "DIN connector " . While other connectors have a according DIN standard, they are not a German invention. For example, while the commonly known D-Sub connector ist standardized under DIN 41652, it is actually invented by Cannon. But in general you can say everything that is called a "DIN" is a German standard. Another example is the paper sizes in Europe. This is also a DIN standard. DIN-A4 for example is the "equivalent" of the US letter. But in slightly different dimensions.

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

How many cars have four prong power plugs...?

[@RobinFowler1982]

I have to say, im really liking the idea of the Monday uploads on this channel. I'm loving the style and the content. Keep up the great work Clint, long time fan, first time commenter :)

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

I agree... we need more LGR Foods too!

[@RobinFowler1982]

More is nice but I don't want LGR to burn out or put to much pressure on himself to be making videos all the time.

[@kkd0099]

Just to clarify for some people that might be confused. Car head units (the stuff in the center) used a standard called ISO 7736 more commonly know as DIN, and these head units can be single DIN, double DIN, etc... which basically go up in size (taller) but the single DIN will usally be 180 x 50 mm (W x H) and the depth will vary on each manufacturer. On the other side, 5.25″ bays are always 150 mm x 83 mm and always 200mm deep. Also cars wouldn't have molex plugs.

[@mvl71]

This could have been a 10-second video: _Observe: on the left the Thermaltake, on the right, a car radio._ [end tune] Thanks for going the extra 1 7/8" though.

[@MultiPureEnergy]

voltare2amstereo hey now, that is quite clearly...almost...two inches😬

[@aaronbrandenburg2441]

Shortest lgr video ever you could have called it.

[@brbbiobreak]

you can hide cookies in that tray

[@aaronbrandenburg2441]

That's how you keep other internet sites from spy on your cookies is that what you're getting at LOL

[@JeansWithPockets541]

'Special' cookies

[@RS250Squid]

Remember to clear it out often!

[@artchic528]

If they're "special" cookies, I don't think that there will be a problem in clearing them out often. LOL

[@Christopher-N]

We've gone from cigarette ash in the computer case, to cookie crumbs that might attract ants. Those guys at Maxis, I'll tell you.

[@CMDBob]

Man, with the power meter, getting massive bigclive vibes! I love it.

[@moconnell663]

But it's not shimmery.

[@piratetv1]

It's not the shimmery hoppy

[@Peeps40836]

Imagine someone with that accessory going into a repair shop, and the whole computer is filled with ashes because they thought the little cup thing was an ashtray.

[@DoctorWhom]

c/s: computer ashtray stopped emptying itself. fix: remove ashes from computer, informed customer to not use cup holder as ash tray.

[@SmaMan]

Kind of a new twist on the whole "CD Drive is a cupholder" story.

[@CaveyMoth]

Dangit, I have today off, but this product is reminding me of my job. Edit: WOW, this thing uses a lot of wattage to heat things up. Imagine having to upgrade your PSU just to use this thing.

[@8bits59]

I mean, cigarette lighters are literally just a bimetallic strip connected across the 12V socket. They tend to pull about 100W (8.3A at 12V) from cold.

[@DannyBeans]

Yeah, that's really not bad for a heating element.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

Or imagine if he'd still had the 150W power supply in there. Might have burned out the PSU trying to add that load.

[@KroltanMG]

If you don't upgrade, you'll still be able to smoke! Only it will be magic computer chip smoke and not cigarettes.

[@alextirrellRI]

7:04 - Thick badass overkill power cord presented without comment.

[@freednighthawk]

That radio is considered "Single DIN" which is the standard size aftermarket radio size.

[@sedsberg77]

Correct. And the Thermaltake-thingy is actually a _half height_ 5,25" device.

[@freednighthawk]

@@sedsberg77 I doubt too many people remember or know about full height 5.25 floppy and hard drives.

[@alakani]

@@freednighthawk Which raises the next question, what the heck is going on? I mean, vacuum tubes were obsolete way before I was born, but I still know they exist and vaguely how they work. What lengths does someone have to go, to completely avoid any kind of history or knowledge in a world that's so connected?

[@alierengam1749]

That people: My car has a atx power supply!!!

[@CaveyMoth]

I just upgraded my car's mobo today.

[@charlie_nolan]

Yours doesn’t?

[@user-ur9qq8us4y]

My car has a huge cpu cooler with 2 fans in the front!

[@Helladamnleet]

My car actually does have a 4 pin molex connector behind ashtray. It's a 1993 Volkswagen Passat, and I have no idea what it's for. If anyone here DOES know what it's for, I would love to know.

[@benh.635]

@@Helladamnleet Could be a data port for some purpose? I mean, 4-pin molex is a connector and can be used for anything, so it might be some data port for use at the factory or dealership.

[@RetroBoxRoom]

I actually bought a friend who smoked this back in the day. He used it as an ashtray at lan parties. Washed it out, dried it, and put it back in, the morning when he was heading home. He never actually closed it, when it had ash in it. He also carved out a little notch in the removable tray to line up with the one in the larger tray, so he could rest a cig more easily. As long as the burning part of the cig never actually hit the plastic, the plastic was fine. Remember ash itself goes cold very quickly. He loved it, because it mean he always knew he could light up, and had an ashtray.

[@DanPellegrino486]

Are you telling me half informed or mis-informed vocal people on the internet spew non sense as loudly as possible? I had no idea.

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

unbelievable, i know...

[@dimensiongamer534]

I just discovered this Blerb channel ..... welp there goes my night gotta binge watch everything now. :)

[@PatrickGoodspeed]

I remember having a computer coming in that failed, opened it up and it had a melted milky way bar on top of the hard drive... Yeah.

[@IanC14]

Wtf?

[@RussellTeapot]

LOL someone had a quick snack while installing new components and just forgot the bar in there

[@chrisfratz]

The fact that people like to accuse people of clickbait over a misunderstanding just disappoints me to no end, and your dedication prove these people wrong is amazing, be kind of makes me wish that it was uploaded on the main channel so that more people could see it.

[@Stormcastle]

Never underestimate the internet's capacity for dumb, my friend

[@0311Mushroom]

I actually still have one of these NIB. I sold many in the day, and kept one just because. And even before this, I had installed many cigarette lighters in computers. The hole normally fits perfectly inside the square for a maker badge, and many wanted it for plugging in car accessories at home.

[@dangerotterisrea]

People don't remember these wonderful times around the millennium where everything was possible and over clocking radeons and cutting holes in cheap pc cases was all the rage! haha XD

[@RocketboyX]

Dremel was having it's best years at the time.

[@bobdole4694]

Not to mention bright blue LEDs and blue backlit LCDs on everything pc related. I used to be in the minority for hating them. Now the health consequences are more understood every display has some sort of software night filter for blue light.

[@psirvent8]

@@bobdole4694 At that time there was more CCFL than LED lights Who remembers CCFL ?

[@someone972s]

Didn't even know there was a second channel until now. Thanks Thermaltake Xray!

[@seanwieland9763]

It’s definitely meant for Chinese gamers who sit on their desktops and smoke cigarettes while playing MMORPGs all day.

[@eduardoBR1991]

Goofy Movie told me I could make can soup with that though, could go into that tray

[@maximilianbourgh8345]

I would love to have that in my PC. Like that one dude said, “A cupholder for your beer, and a lighter for your joint.”!

[@AtonyB]

Thermaltake had a thing for adapting car accessories to go in PC cases. I have an ejectable touch screen for 5.25" bays that they did that clearly started life as a product for car centre consoles...

[@Studio6446]

There's was one made for the Thermaltake Mozart TX case. That was a beast of a dual system case.

[@MelsvanWees]

People accusing you of click-bate should shame themself and focus on the thousands of other big channels that constantly click-bate you. LGR is a channel with high quality videos that never would go so low

[@lydiaostmo7767]

LGR always does tons of research, and while of course he’s human, I trust his judgement. Like Captain Kirk said of Spock, I trust your guesses more than most other people’s facts.

[@DanielMReck]

If I'm not mistaken, it was McCoy who said that Kirk trusts Spock's guesses more than other people's facts. This was in Star Trek IV: The One With The Whales. Spock admitted to Kirk that he would have to guess on his time travel computations and Kirk responded, "A guess, Spock? That's extraordinary!" before leaving the bridge. Spock looks quizzically to McCoy, who interprets Kirk's reaction.

[@lydiaostmo7767]

@@DanielMReck You're right, of course. :)

[@FroggyMosh]

Truly a piece of engineering marvel. Gosh, What will they think of next? Cup heaters and desk lamps? Perchance a handy desk fan for those hot days.

[@sagadego2021]

well thanks to trolls i discovered your 2nd channel and subbed

[@TheJedihunter]

Dude seriously are you not hungry yet because I am

[@White-Wolf1969]

Third channel you meant.

[@AdoptedMike]

Ditto

[@TheJedihunter]

@@AdoptedMike ¿

[@emchodevetkov9438]

me too

[@jaredthistle9366]

That indent is probably to make removing the inner liner easier. I also really like the idea of someone replacing their car stereo with two things which came standard in cars of that era.

[@rwdplz1]

2:50 No, that stereo is single DIN. A lot of GM products in the 90's had 1.5 DIN, and a lot of cars with navigation or screens until recently used double DIN

[@uscaremealotyt]

The length and dedication you go into to prove the obvious. Bless you man. Also the added revenue is not that bad.

[@WorkshopGreg]

LGR: More effort to establish what this thing does than Thermaltake gave it originally in design.

[@bryceschug486]

KZbinr: Look at this thing for computers. Commenters: It's for cars. Never mind that it does not fit and can't actually be plugged into a car. KZbinr: ...

[@jk9554]

KZbinr: "hold my ashtray. I don't smoke anyway."

[@xortab]

I don't know when you recorded this, but James Watt's birthday was yesterday. Measuring wattage seems fitting.

[@spoolinz1]

I’m actually impressed you caught that the center console on the packaging belongs to a Alfa Romeo 156 even more so since it was never sold in the US (obviously).

[@larshansson1953]

I mean, it says '5.25" drive bay kit' on the front of the packaging. I'm reasonably sure that cars don't use 5.25" drive bays...

[@crowapples]

Oh, hey. I actually used this (or a similar product) when I was in college around 2006. I was a smoker at the time and I though having a lighter attached to my computer would be convenient since I kept losing my lighters. I recall it working fine and being pretty convenient.

[@nicovosje]

I think the people that are complaining are in for the atention, dont lower yourself to that level, i love your content. Keep it up.

[@Gojiro7]

I know it feels undignified and annoying to have to clarify things like this, but I personally think it shows a great dedication to your audience to take the time and give your side of things instead of crossing your arms and saying "I aint justifying shit :P " so for what its worth I appreciate you taking the moment to set the record straight, it wasn't something that even crossed my mind when I saw the video, but it certainly made for a entertaining snippit ^_^

[@d2factotum]

Most car cigarette lighter sockets have a 10A fuse, so with the standard 12V electrical system you get 120W--pretty much exactly the same as the power draw of this cigarette lighter.

[@LambdaDriven]

Can confirm. I almost purchased one of these in high school for holding Mountain Dew until my better senses prevailed. I don’t know what I was thinking

[@danielwalker26]

If it isn't made for computers then why did I have one in my computer. Had to edit. WOAH what is with that PC power cable? The plug is gigantic and that cable. Heavy duty AF.

[@flapjackboy]

That's an audiophile-grade IEC cable. They can go for upwards of a grand per metre.

[@NaokisRC]

@@flapjackboy because only an audiophile will buy a grand of an IEC cable

[@mr_barrie]

Nice follow up. The plug was so needed! I craved those stats!

[@kylemcisaac]

That power cord is definitely hardcore. I want all of them!

[@moconnell663]

It appears to be Neutrik PowerCon on the PC end. Pretty heavy-duty.

[@kylemcisaac]

@@moconnell663 I'll have to buy shares!

[@tomahzo]

This video is great! I was just thinking of buying a Kill A Watt like that and was unsure how it worked. Great howto video :D.

[@dope002]

Still searching for that molex connector in my car...

[@TheClockUpOnTheWall]

Even Harley's have had molex connectors. Maybe not the 4pin used on PC power supplies, but molex connectors come in all kinds of forms.

[@brandonremund6230]

You wouldn't find a connector that plugged into that head unit either. Every head unit manufacturer, Sony, Pioneer, Kenwood, etc, has it's own specific harness connector. You have to purchase an adapter harness for your specific make and model of vehicle. Or, go the have route and chop the factory harness off. Regardless of connector type, with very few exceptions, cars already have 12v sockets and cup holders. Back in the 90s they came with the lighters and ashtrays as well. Now most cars make you buy the smoker's package.

[@kernelpickle]

I bet that the overseas market had a different insert that was heat resistant and had those notches, because that seems like the sort of device that would be a popular add on for PCs in an Internet cafe. Some of those Asian countries sure love Internet cafes and chain smoking basically everywhere, so it would make sense that someone at Thermaltake would’ve seen the market for a smoking accessory for a PC. Back in the early 2000’s the PC modding scene certainly took it’s design cues from the “Fast and Furious” import modding scene, and a lot of the stuff you could fit into those large drive bays (cases often came with 3 or 4 of them) sure looked a lot like the stuff you’d see in cars. Once you filled up the logical slots for a DVD reader, CD burner, and maybe and a SoundBlaster Audigy front panel-you still had room for some random shit. I honestly can’t imagine and car accessories that anyone would want to use with their PC back them, because a cell phone charger for the car was usually an additional thing you hand to buy, so if you had a phone, you had a wall charger for your nightstand or could easily plug it into the wall or power strip at your computer desk. The other popular car accessories were usually CD to cassette adapters that worked with cassette decks, and those requires the use of your cigarette lighter or car power socket. That doesn’t make any sense because it wasn’t uncommon to listen to CDs while you were gaming or browsing the web, you just had to Alt+Tab out of full screen applications and click a few buttons or just press play on your CD drive to hear the audio, so having a separate Discman for listening to music would be weird-unless you were in an Internet cafe maybe. Otherwise, you’d probably already have your CDs ripped to mp3s using WinAmp and the LAME encoder plug-in. So, whatever market there was for this thing it was extremely niche, and I can’t imagine many uses for it. Honestly, the beverage afterthought thing seems weird, because I’d want liquids around my PC less than I wanted smoke (if I had been a smoker) and probably wouldn’t put coins or random shit off my desk in there, like a paper clip for popping out discs from the CD or DVD-Rom drives. Maybe a thumb drive, or whatever solid-state storage was being used in cameras back then.

[@-DeScruff]

I don't know what year this thing came out, but I seem to recall Thermaltake had a car theme for some of it's accessories and cases in the 00s. And I guess it makes sense. There are a lot of folks who build their own PC who are also really into cars. That and I remember computer cases for a while having a ridiculous amount of 5.25" bays. I always wondered why. I remember my friend's PC having six 5.25" and a floppy drive bay. I can't imagine what you'd fill them all up with, but I guess if there were enough of these kinda... things. you could.

[@coreyisapushover]

Did not know you had this side channel. Subscribed! You satisfied my curiosity and verified that the cig lighter probably would blow out those cheap $15 chinese power supplies. I don't understand why people still thought this was made for a car. It perfectly fits within a 5.25" bay, has the mounting holes on the rails like most 5.25" devices, and uses PC molex connectors.

[@Raguleader]

If you install a computer in your car, this could become a car accessory...

[@cubeflinger]

A nice 486 desktop in your centre console

[@cubeflinger]

Mmm a crt on the dashboard with autoroute express..

[@Raguleader]

@@cubeflinger in a car with a woodgrain wrap.

[@cubeflinger]

@@Raguleader I feel like Clint needs to get in this immediately.

[@Mick_92]

You could always use a car ashtray adapter to plug in your computer.

[@kbhasi]

0:22 I've a feeling they're not familiar with Thermaltake and the fact that they produce PC accessories, or something got the best of them. 3:02 At this point, I was reminded of the time Mighty Car Mods installed a Creative Infra 32X CD-ROM drive as part of a DIY head unit. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXnMgKdqndKgiZY

[@iroll]

yesss classic MCM! patrician comment, my dude

[@andrewsprojectsinnovations6352]

Familiarity with Termaltake aside, they clearly don't have any respect for or knowledge of computing history. Every major 8-bit computer used 5.25 inch floppy disks: Commodore Pet, Vic 20, C64, Atari 400/800, TRS 80, IBM PC, Apple // line, etc. That size was prevalent well into the 90's, and the newer, smaller 3.5 inch drives were designed to fit the existing bays. Even modern desktops still use the standard 5.25" bays for hard drives/SSD's. Therefore, the large, clear text reading "5 1/4 inch drive bay," alongside the fact that it fit PERFECTLY in a standard 5.25 inch PC drive bay, left me with no doubt that it was a device meant for PC's (shocking, I know). I didn't even need the side-by-side comparison to notice that car sterios were quite a bit larger. Then again, trolls are just gonna troll. They just proved that they don't care about the facts.

[@ismaelgarcia8243]

I come back to that video every so often just to watch Moog dance 😂

[@RS250Squid]

That's one holy hell of a power cable for the PC! Edit: I found the video explaining the ridiculous chonky power cable :D.

[@sandman9601]

I knew someone who had one of these in their system, just to make people ask questions. He had a 500W Antec PSU, so name-brand and plenty of headroom. But pushing the lighter in would cause some kind of spike on one of the rails and crashed his PC about 25% of the time. You can guess what we did as often as we could (until he removed it).

[@noapparentfunction]

how about instead of spending money on cooling for your gaming rig, you just send all the heat to a drive bay cigarette lighter?? yeah, this is big brain time.

[@xhozt]

back in the day it was a thing ..cooling was simpler and then you added fun/cool things

[@mattd5719]

I would say that the irony is that the people you were correcting probably are not watching this video. But I salute you for your patience.

[@mafjaguar2677]

I’ve never been so quick to see a blerb* in it’s natural habitat.

[@CaveyMoth]

Me, neither!

[@vendybirdsvadl7472]

Blurb?

[@mafjaguar2677]

Vendy Bird Švadl Blurb is how the normal word is spelled so i just kinda didn’t notice it till afterwards.

[@vendybirdsvadl7472]

@@mafjaguar2677 i mean idk what IT is

[@mafjaguar2677]

Vendy Bird Švadl Honestly it has official definitions but i cannot think of a real reason to use the word, it’s just a word i know for some odd reason.

[@fadingbeleifs]

Hey Clint, if you want to turn on an ATV or ATX power supply without it being plugged into a motherboard,look for the green wire which is usually the fourth pin from the end on the motherboard power cable, and just connect that bright green wire to a ground and it will turn on the power supply.

[@adamsfusion]

The hole in the bottom left is to let air escape when you put in the insert. If it were covered, you would notice that the tray would go down about 90%, then slow down and creep down to the bottom as air fed up through the sides of the tray.

[@UltrawideBenchmarks]

This was obviously made for a PC, dont know why people are claiming its made for a car. Never seen any car accessory use a molex connector! Good video Clint.

[@DeckardGames]

People actually thought this was for a car? From thermaltake? 5,1/4 drive bays with car din? OMG. 1. Props for the Alfa Romeo mention 😃 2. Lesson is: Stop smoking. It improves your health and electricity bill.

[@darthrevan2063]

Deckard Games and gives you bit better intelligence

[@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka]

Look how old people looked few decades ago actually being 30 but looking like 50 year old due to smoking everywhere and not so balanced food even today food is full of crap but still more variety , nutrition etc

[@TheClockUpOnTheWall]

@@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka Even smokers now look 10+ years older. I'm 38, and I can go on a dating app and can tell immediately if someone my age smokes or not just by their picture before even checking their stats.

[@bosozoku_volvo]

i highly appreciate that you knew that was an alfa HVAC. i know youre somewhat of a car guy, and its always fun to watch you dip into that a bit. slightly related, you should look into the e3io double din PC, just for the crossover fun.

[@romajimamulo]

Seeing the decimal point vanish from that wattage meter shocked me

[@SanderEvers]

A very electrifying experience.

[@hqqns]

Sander Evers Watt?

[@UmbraAtrox_]

The connector on the back of the car radio you showed doesnt plug into the car since the car doesnt have the matching plugs for that. Instead you connect the wiring harness wich came with the radio and that has the matching ISO plugs. @ 3:20

[@g.u.959]

*NOW THAT’S A LOT OF WATTAGE*

[@goatslayerwp]

I'm so glad this channel is here.

[@bummer6]

plug in another computer into the AC adapter and see if that kills it

[@richardhobson3623]

Never doubted you for a minute.

[@pinkchckn]

You forgot to test the energy consumption of the cup holder

[@user2C47]

It's 0 and does not need to be tested.

[@PointsofData]

How do you know? Did you test it?

[@user2C47]

The laws of physics prevent the cupholder from using power.

[@RetardedChildrenable]

@@user2C47 What if the drink in the cupholder was cold? I mean it takes energy to warm the drink up

[@user2C47]

@@RetardedChildrenable That is outside the scope of the analysis. It only considered electrical energy from the computer's power supply. If other energy types are included, it is likely that heat from the lighter will end up in the cup holder, constituting power draw.

[@Oleg-dp2fh]

Such a responsible approach to work!

[@nuttyjawa]

tar is the word you were looking for when talking about smokers pcs :)

[@TheClockUpOnTheWall]

My hands are already getting a rash just thinking about that build up on old beige computers.

[@jasonmetcalfe4695]

I've seen that tar totally destroy many components over the years... its up there with mice urine in terms of its corrosiveness... now I feel like I need to scrub my hands again

[@MC-1173]

LOL You are the only other person I have seen with one of this. Yeah I bought mine years ago. And like you showed, I bought mine to charge my Cell phone in the Computer room. Back then Cell phone chargers didn't have cables that would fit standard USB slots. They were hard wired to the wall plug. So I only needed to buy a car charger. Worked great for years. Still have it too.

[@jihoonkim9766]

AC to DC to AC, awesome!

[@djassassinuk]

I reckon the larger notch is to help you grip the condensation tray to lift it out ... :o)

[@tdp2612]

I imagine many PSUs blew up when people used these for the first time

[@UltimateAlgorithm]

PSU will power down when it sense an over current or over voltage condition. Also most PSU are 300 watt and above, so it should be fine.

[@abooogeek]

@@UltimateAlgorithm I guess the 300W became standard by the second half of the 2000s, but I remember usually the included PSUs with generic cases back in the days were around 250W-300W range. And most of them were cheap PSUs as well (the number of motherboards coming with cap leaks from that period is astounding). To get a good PSU, you either had to invest in very good cases (like the Antec cases) or buy a separate PSU (Enermax comes in mind). Still a pretty good stress test to assess the reliability of your PSU.

[@d0gZpAw]

The one thing that did concern me in the previous video that you've now confirmed, is the AMP draw over the 4-pin Molex connector that powers the Cigarette Lighter.. while the AMPs you measured are low for 120volts, the additional power draw of around 115watts measured at the wall could indicate almost 9.5 AMP current at 12v passing through the Molex connector, which is only rated for a maximum of 6.5 AMP. Although the cigarette lighter doesn't take very long to heat up, any prolonged usage of high current draw could very well damage the connector, creating some risk factors as these connectors have been known to fail with much smaller loads attached. The current drawn by the cigarette lighter may also explain why there is a 10 AMP fuse rather than a marginally safer 7.5 AMP fuse equipped.

[@yukikofujiwara2144]

Insert violent gesticulation of agreement here. You can't see it, but I did it in real life. *YES!* *HUGE* hazard!! Even if it doesn't catch fire, cords can still melt and fail! And I can imagine someone being -stupid- short-sighted enough to plug up an 115±5~V AC adapter and leave something on that draws that kind of amperage, like a home speaker set with a sub for better audio, treating the Xray like a power passthrough. I'm sure that's not what they anticipated when they designed it, just your "springy" chargers for your sleek new flip phone. Still, someone from R&D should've said, "You know what? Scrap that idea, it seems dangerous."

[@NowUndefined]

Love the blerbs soon far!

[@0xc0ffea]

Glad you revisited this a little, real oddware should leave everyone with more questions!

[@VGMRUS]

So basically it uses/needs 120w, wonder what would happen if you used a power supply with less that 200w? I saw one comment from a dude that had this thing and he said the fans rpms went down when he used the lighter

[@PeTTs0n88]

"Why is there smoke coming from other places than the lighter?"

[@JamesPotts]

Yeah, that's pulling 10 amps on the 12V line.

[@UltimateAlgorithm]

PSU will cut the power when it sense over current condition.

[@PeTTs0n88]

Providing it has OCP, yes... we're talking early 2000's PSUs - there were *many* absolute garbage ones back then. Protections weren't exactly commonplace. I've seen PSU's from that time period fail at 75% load, I've seen rails so far out of spec in comparison to today that it's comical (13.5V on the 12V happened), please don't compare stuff from 15-20 years back with today's stuff.

[@SianaGearz]

If it increases computer consumption by 120W, then its actual power is 100W or slightly less, and power supplies are rated by output power, not Input. It's an oldie so probably like around 70% efficient. What happens when you exceed rated current? Either nothing, or the OCP triggers, or the UVP, and the power supply goes off and forces a cool down of a few minutes. If the fans audibly change speed, it's a possibility that the mandatory UVP is not working correctly or is mistuned. But I guess it could be worse, like the famous 420W Codegen PSU which would just catch fire at this kind of load and kill most of the PC in the process, if we're speaking of early 2000s PSUs.

[@TombstoneChris]

Why can't people just watch videos and enjoy the content. I mean this guy consistently delivers some great content and has for years. That's the problem with this KZbin age we live in. People love to complain and Pick-A-Part content creators just trying to make a living. Pretty sad if you ask me. Anyone with any knowledge of PCs would know this goes on a PC not a car.

[@munxcorp]

People who thought this goes in a car have obviously never owned one or tried to install a car stereo. In no way is the formfactor or any of the connections remotely compatible with any auto standards LOL Edit: 120Watts through a single molex....yeah I wouldnt be using it.

[@stale2665]

Wasn't this device limited to 80 watts? Still not sure if that's a good idea, though.

[@ScribblyDave]

munxcorp people who thought this was for a car are probably not old enough to own a car or have not passed their license test yet...

[@PeTTs0n88]

Power consumption went up ~110-115W when he was using the cig lighter, which is brutal for a single Molex, heck even just putting a 10A load extra on a single 12V rail on a PSU back then would be iffy. He's got the power to spare with that rig, but a system actually using some 12V (Pentium 4, for instance)... damn.

[@dyter424]

A real torture. It actually draws more power than a mid-range GPU. There's a reason why 6-pin adapters use two Molex connectors...

[@boozydaboozer]

I think you can assume the PSU is about 80 efficient and the biggest I saw was 110W, so I'd say less than 90W through the Molex. At 12V that's 7.5A or less. Still would melt the original PSU though.

[@scottnokes]

Okay Clint, what's up with the luxurious braided power cord? Lots of curious comments on it. What are the specs on that jewel? Can you do a blerb on that?

[@varunbaliga7334]

Thats a lot wattage🤣🤣🤣 phil swift smiles at a distance

[@SenileOtaku]

I could see someone installing it in an older case that had an older, lower-wattage PSU. "Why does my computer shut down every time I have a cigarette?"

[@markweatherford9233]

This was a product that was popular before internet speeds were viable for multiplayer gaming. People used to have to take their whole pc to places and hook up to others via LAN to play and that would last typically for the entire weekend for a gaming session. So drink holders like this were nice because most didn't get a desk to play on, usually a tv tray for keyboard and mouse, drink in holder and your pc was the snack holder.

[@swettyspaghtti]

It says drive bay right on the god damn packaging

[@3DPDK]

The notch is to vent the air from the tray when inserting or removing the cup - more so when removing it so you aren't fighting a vacuum to pull the cup out. It seems a bit overkill unless you spill some of the liquid of your drink that ends up between the tray and the cup. If it was added to the mold to manufacture the tray part, as a design after-thought to correct the problem, it would be much easier and less costly to add a pencil thick rib to the mold than to retool the entire tray to be a millimeter or two bigger in diameter. [EDIT] It's also easier to pull the part from the mold with a larger "slot". Aside from getting ashes inside the computer (a valid point), although it's plastic, it's not the high temperature plastic or "Bakelite" used to make the dark brown, bar type ashtrays. It's made from either extruded polystyrene or a vacuum formed poly-vinyl (more likely the first) but either way it's a low temperature plastic and I would bet a year's salary that it's not intended to be an ashtray. Now, here's the math for the lighter. The maximum amperage rating for any of today's automobile type cigar lighter (that's actually what they were originally called) is never more than 10 amps in accordance to several automotive, RV, and boating industry standards. 10 amps at 12 volts = 120 watts ( amps x V = W). In reality, if bench tested, most cigar lighters draw around 8 amps or 100 watts at 12 volts. [EDIT2] the 2 amp reading is because you are reading the 120vac side. Aside from a mathematical standpoint, that reading is RMS or an average amperage over a single, full alternating cycle.

[@dingdongbells3314]

In my humble opinion, I think that photoshop actually served dual purposes. The first (and more innocent) is that it makes it clear to smokers, "This product will let you smoke at your computer desk just like you can smoke in the front seat of your car, and even has an ~ashtray~ "cupholder" built into it." The second, and more sinister is that the image likely assisted in borderline fraudulent attempts to peddle this product off as an actual car accessory to unsuspecting shoppers. After all, they falsely shopped it into a car dashboard above a REAL car radio. Now, you might be skeptical that a company like Thermaltake would resort to such a tactic to unload excess unsold products. But this was Thermaltake in its more humble early days before PC parts and accessories became the big trillion dollar cash cow industry it is today. The more interesting thing is that power draw. Just YIKES. That huge spike in voltage seems like it could easily kill a weaker powersupply completely dead in its tracks.

[@andinstone]

My heart at that Unreal Tournament opening ♥️ childhood right there.