Another New Train Simulator?! | Train Planet Demo First Look

[@chanman4rings]

Anything to give dovetail some competition so that they stop half-assing

[@pansearedducklet9054]

Well said

[@sweetlemonade123]

give the derail valley a try, I prefer it over the dovetail's scam sim world...

[@sharky1213]

@@sweetlemonade123 The obvious problem with Derail Valley though is that it uses fictional trains on a fictional world. The thing I want from a train simulator is to feel like a real world train driver driving a real world train on a real world route with real world timetables and real world operations. Not saying DTG does them necessarily well, but those things are simply not the aim of Derail Valley. In that sense SimRail is the more obvious competitor to TSW I think, as it actually has a large overlap in what it offers with TSW, more than Derail Valley does.

[@windshearahead7012]

lmfao true

[@tompsu9536]

TSW actually has the same route so would be fun to compare the two side by side it’s the Cologne - Aachen route

[@BluGames]

Oooh is that the route! I will consider doing that

[@jwrailve3615]

Köhn-achen you mean? Didn’t know a cologne route existed might be one of the few I don’t own

[@tompsu9536]

@@jwrailve3615 Köln is Cologne in German

[@jwrailve3615]

@@tompsu9536 feel pretty dumb for Brain farting that one. Considering I spent 3 years learning it and still learn a couple words a week just to keep up with it. I love that route! Wish the ICE1 was layered in it because I love the way it’s motor hums at about 140-160 only thing I dislike about the route is it should have a couple freight switching (shunting) services on that little branch/spur line otherwise really fun run.

[@tompsu9536]

@@jwrailve3615 yeah no worries, ICE 1 would be cool on that route

[@tavish2341]

Great video! Really hoping this motivates Dovetail to start releasing higher quality DLC.

[@ImmortanG]

Just came across this in the steam store. Glad to see another train sim in the works. I saw it was from the same developers of Fishing Planet, so when you noted & where confused by the "Buy" button it raised an eyebrow for me lol. In fishing planet you have to "buy" a pass to fish a particular map, using the currency you earn in game via catching fish. But more importantly you can also purchase this in-game currency with real money, or purchase tokens to get bonus exp/currency in-game for the day etc. You can still progress in the game without purchasing anything, but its a grind to do so. It will be interesting to see if they will try to make this microtransaction payment model work in a train sim game, making the base game free to play.

[@BluGames]

Oh wow thats an interesting concept for in game progression

[@AndrewGrey22]

Train Sims would be a lot better if they were like MSFS and XP and have the whole world mapped and it's just a big North America or Europe sandbox. And better if it had online traffic control like VATSIM, maybe VRTSIM ha. And real-world weather.

[@BluGames]

True.. but sadly idk if that will ever come true

[@QueentasticTDP]

This probably wont happen as they need to do ALOT of scenery around the world. It works with MSFS due to its just the world map used and some generic low poly houses when not in bigger cities/airports

[@magicmulder]

Well it's a niche market, it's not MS with their flight sim.

[@Kindersama]

Like TrainSim? But it only has Poland for now, other countries are coming.

[@mikkdc]

Train Life does that to a certain extent, with the map featuring Germany, Poland, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Holland, France, Belgium and a tiny part of the UK but is more arcadey than other sims. I enjoy it but it isn't anywhere near as detailed as TSW or Train Planet but that's understandable due to the size of the map featured in Train Life. The dream is , as you say, to have the detail in sims but with a continent to free roam.

[@almondbungames584]

As a person who accidentally happened to live in Düren for quite some time and drove that route for years (as a passenger) I can say, yeah, it looks pretty decent. Good job. I have to say that in reality grass and trees are not that perfect but hey, who cares.

[@BluGames]

Haha nice

[@tompsu9536]

I was feeling pretty much the same as you. When I saw the trailer, at first I thought this will be those games that look good on trailers but actually are terrible but really impressed with the demo so far.

[@tompsu9536]

And the trailer is saying its coming in 2024, we’ll have to wait and see if that is correct

[@tompsu9536]

I’m very impressed especially with the shots of the black and orange train

[@tompsu9536]

Also have to agree with you that the ui is very messy currently

[@aserenezephyr]

Definitely more work needed, but the track and lineside scenery is excellent. For a game made in unity, it looks very good.

[@Frankestein01nl]

Wished someone would make a decent Ship simulator... as that's been dominated by one dominating company named V-step.... slowest sim out there, but still a sim. And that train yer driving, is actually the same as my modeltrain i had when i was knee-high.. ;)

[@BluGames]

Yea i am really wanting a ship simulator also.. hopefully someone is working on one

[@ShadowRaptor42]

there is Nautis home, but it's subscription based

[@daveslow84]

Or use a ship mod in MSFS2020 😅

[@Frankestein01nl]

@@ShadowRaptor42 Yeah, i fell for that one, immediately cancelled... it's just such a niche market, that there's just not many companies that can simulate actual physics in water... oh well, maybe in a year or 20....? ;)

[@Frankestein01nl]

@@daveslow84 bwahahahaha, yeah, the invisible wheels, 3 feet under water, will fool anyone into believing there's either a swell, or a rip in the world when it's jumping from itself whilst "riding the waves"... hahaha

[@alexf2705]

I wish there would be a little bit more diversity in train sims... It's always either the UK or Germany. Where is France or Italy? Both these countries have unique railways and sceneries. They would make a good standalone sim

[@BluGames]

100% agree!!!!!

[@Kindersama]

Because of licenses. SNCF don't give license to make routes, they only authorise 2-3 TGV routes... 😢

[@Rittersport88]

​@@KindersamaWhy is that?

[@userSchlonsch]

It looks promising but a lot of things feel off (and kinda half-assed) about the sim. The locos don’t really make sense for the route or type of service. The 218 is an older diesel loco that doesn’t run IC services as it’s too slow. The 186 is a freight loco that is rated for 160kph and can theoretically run passenger services but also doesn’t make much sense as it doesn’t go up to 200kph which IC services on the high speed line between Cologne and Aachen would do. Then there are the coaches. On first glance they look pretty good but from the outside they are first class coaches but the seating and interior is that of second class. There is definitely not as much attention to accuracy as in other train sims. I know the route pretty well from real live and it does look good and pretty accurate, even slightly better than the TSW version in my opinion. But there are quite a few sections where you can really tell that it’s just imported from map data without anyone polishing the scenery by hand. For example at 19:28 and 20:34 you can see the terrain is really messed up and low detail. I really hope this is just an early demo and not representative of the level of detail and accuracy that we can expect from the final product. That said, any competition is going to be a good thing for us players and I hope especially DTG is starting to feel the pressure! Edit: added time stamp

[@jeremy-ey2ez]

Unbelievable... Dovetails will created the number 5 of their series and they still dont have this incredible landscape detail. The game looks promising.

[@QueensAnomaly]

Finally competition for dovetail. Maybe they'll lover prices after all. One reason why I will play this sim instead of dovetail is the operational EBULA (Route screen) just as Zusi 3. Ofcourse the game being in early-access.

[@jwrailve3615]

DTG needs as much competition as it takes to make them step up and deliver with what they claim to deliver. I just wish a US developer actually stepped up and did US rail content only let DTG keep wasting US players times with promises of content only to be just more commuter and NPC freights running around with zero ability to operate. Hell I enjoy all the routes but enough is enough I hope this new game ends up being an absolute banger it looks damn good but until it’s fully released and isn’t released broken.and bugged and half the quality of graphics then they show in trailer/demo

[@BluGames]

I was thinking the exact same. And i wish we could get an American dev making a quality modern american train sim

[@jthe_railfaner2643]

@@BluGameswhy do you think its been so long since we’ve seen American Devs?

[@QueentasticTDP]

Because Amtrak, CSX, BNSF ect owns the most of the rails in US and they dont have time/want to let devs take time to map shit ect.@@jthe_railfaner2643

[@potatoman451]

​@@jthe_railfaner2643 because there isn't a lot or they just aren't interested Or it's not financially viable depending on the team size. Smokebox for example is a 1 man team so it wouldn't be worth it financially to create content for tsw when it already takes him a while to make it in tsc and even said he doesn't earn enough money for the work he put in. I've read from the forums that 3rd parties like high iron and dtm have started messing with unreal engine in their spare time. But I've heard lots of mixed things about them. I don't think they are even official 3rd parties in tsw so it will depend on if it is really viable. Searchlight sim hates dtg with a passion so we won't see them ever coming.

[@wheelking79]

@@jthe_railfaner2643 they only care about profit. As trainsim is a very niche genre and the majority of fans are based around Germany (especially) , Germany-based content is likely to sell more hence profitable.

[@91JRH]

I play TSW4 at the moment and I hope Dovetail Games will improve their graphics in the scenery.

[@blackdemon30703]

I also play TSW4

[@ops7917]

These classic German DB diesel locos are all over TSW 3 and 4, they are great to drive passenger and freight. Shocked you say you don't like them or drive them. What I will say however is I'm sick to death of the same locations used on these games. It will depend on the other world locations they have in store whether I buy it or not. If it's anything bordering UK, US, Austria, Germany, France, Swiss you can forget it.

[@BluGames]

Yea its sad all the train sims are in the same 2 countries.. UK.. germany

[@wheelking79]

yeah because like france and Italy for example, the real rail companies are snobby arrogant assholes that never allows developers make their routes, yet it's actually still their loss imho because that could still be good advertisement for them in game, even a niche community.

[@blablaqq]

@@wheelking79 I think it's for security reasons because it's critical infrastructure and whatnot. In some countries they've started cracking down on train cams too or limiting taking photos. :/

[@tr68001]

Purchased TSW4, with CN Oakville add-on (originally TSW2). No GP38-2 to paint in TSW4 livery designer. If I buy BNSF or UP Heritage SD70ACE add-on, will I be able to paint an SD70ACE in TSW4 livery designer or not because it was originally TSW3? Thanks in advance for any info.

[@wolfgangs2562]

I have tsw3 should i buy tsw4 or simrail?

[@mfghost3340]

See's UK Models. Walks out...

[@16cellito]

Lets just hope its not super expensive like it is with the TSW

[@mikkdc]

Not sure if it's me but the lighting looks a little TOO bright and kind of washed out but it does look pretty detailed. Promising looking game!

[@philippconner2818]

The wild thing is, I would take a deeper economy with the same DTG physics sim, but I am not necessarily sold yet. Props for the dev implementing a tap charger out of the gate.

[@wheelking79]

Would be awesome to see somewhat Railroader / Railroads Online alike economy integrated, that would greatly enhance the playability.

[@Gameramstart123]

Comes this to the consoles to? Than its great

[@PilotMateo]

when is your next micoftsoft flight sim live stream

[@SolaraFr]

New competitor?

[@blackdemon30703]

How long is the demo?

[@Picaxe45]

here's a new contender ...

[@HotFriedChickenAt3am]

Love your vids blu!

[@nickolaslewis1560]

Interesting.

[@denbaker7358]

Is this coming to console?

[@BluGames]

Idk sorry

[@jeffreyjacobs7080]

Another german game, german route, german loco. Boring…