Another View - Light vs Dark Skin

Beyonce as the model for a major cosmetic company, only after they lightened her skin. OJ Simpson's photo was darkened to make him appear more sinister on the cover of Time Magazine. And then there is the issue of "intra-racial" discrimination - African Americans who discriminate against other African Americans because of the hue of their skin. On the final television episode of Another View, we'll talk about discrimination based on skin color with Dr. Cassandra Newby-Alexander, .history professor at NSU; Eleanor Earl, Asst. Professor of English and Cinema Studies with Hampton University; Regina Malveaux, Executive Director of the YWCA-SHR; and author and journalist Wil LaVeist. Plus we'll take a look back at the two and a half years we've been on the air. It's the farewell edition of Another View on television

[@ojayliburd3568]

Hopefully us black people can overcome the era of "light skin vs dark skin". At the end of the day we are all black.

[@zozilla]

Docile creatures .... Willie lynch syndrome thats what it is!!its sad ... these people are slow divide individuals with Willie lynch class. Skin color, old or young using ur ignorance against u.

[@pink1237480]

@charbren 888 honestly I agree with 100% hopefully we at least get there in time.

[@pink1237480]

@charbren 888 again you are correct sir! I am light skin but never felt that way I was always told "you're black" and that's it. But there are people specifically black people who are dark skin who can't accept light skins like me as being black. So I agree with you on everything you said.

[@moisepicard3417]

+Ojay Liburd. No, all of them are black. Some of them are brown.

[@beverlycromwell9805]

Tell the black man that

[@AngelaAlbertina]

I think prejudice of dark skin is in Africa too. Because my mom has a friend that is from Africa & he said that my mom would be considered 'white' because she is light skin. Even in India light skin people are treated better. So it's not just in America. It's worldwide

[@lovelydd1305]

This issue will never end...as long as we're humans.

[@rachelbradfield3382]

My God we destroy each other

[@NycBeauty]

This video was posted 8 years ago. This is still a hot topic.

[@afroindia42]

I feel the same way. I'm a light complected black woman but I think I'd be considered more medium complected. I use to wish I was either lighter or darker complected because I felt left out. We do need to embrace our beauty and like you said, love each other. However, we need to start by loving ourselves.

[@vanitayoung65]

My 1st cousin is mixed and she's really darkskin. Our grandmother was gypsy and black and my skintone. Our grandfather was Haitian. I don't think you can call someone "pure" by the color of their skin.

[@Pattydole70]

+Vanita Young American blacks are hung up on skin tone and know little about actual culture which is what is most important.

[@madamebittaye2628]

"Pure" by the skin color means the natural color of the skin without bleaching it.

[@CherishLove2]

I'm dark skin and my grandmother is half white.

[@og-greenmachine8623]

Simple If you’re 85%+ 👉🏽 African blood? you are black American if you are not? 👉🏽 you are mixed

[@user-bc4uz9tp8k]

@@og-greenmachine8623 well than most African Americans aren't African Americans..there mixed by your definition. I'm 76%...and I would presume that at the very least 1/3rd of black Americans are within my range if not most. There are no immediate white relatives within my lineage..its only until you go back to slavery that you find white ancestors in my family. You might want re access your presumption because you do also realize within the same family you could have a brother who 86% African and a sister who is 82% percent african...same parents. My mother is 77% and my uncle her brother is 82% he looks just like ice cube.

[@B3CKIP]

Its crazy, living in England, my mum is mixed race (black and white) and my dad is white and therefore i'm quite olive skinned with dark eyes and dark hair, and I experienced discrimination in primary school because I was darker than anyone else in the school... despite it saying 'Caucasian' on my birth certificate ...

[@Isabel1956]

There's no need for comments like " I had no idea you were....". We need to accept others for who they are. No one is superior or inferior . That's hogwash .

[@Williamwestp24]

I concur Isabel1956.

[@og-greenmachine8623]

Depends...

[@drwpsych]

There are no brown skinned (neither light nor dark) people on this panel. This debate is seemingly primarily between the two extreme hues of light and black. I suppose that brown is, within the differing hues of black people's skin, the "safe and nonthreatening" color that requires no discussion?

[@blacklyfe6881]

The fat woman is brown skin you are color blind

[@Shadowcontheoriginal]

I'm white. And every person is beautiful. To everyone, I love your skin tones. African Americans, Asian Americans, Latin Americans, Irish Americans, Polish Americans, Indian American, Everyone still remains Beautiful. Even if i didn't say your, culture, You still have Beautiful skin. Be proud of it.

[@lovelife2186]

Bye

[@prettyboy1970]

We're not going to overcome this anytime soon. I'm dark, and when I was a teenager, girls never even looked twice at me. I never had a girlfriend or even a date throughout high school. That was 30 years ago. My grandparents generation dealt with the colorism issue 70 to 80 years ago, and here we are today still discussing the same dumb sh%t. Dark-skinned blacks are always going to be treated as "less than".

[@signorpops8520]

guest it’s a good thing because u become a family man not a player. Keeps money in your pocket.

[@ladyofspa]

We got to protect our fully Melenated beauties. We should be holding them in High Esteem. Without our mahagony, ebony, chocolate sis bloodline will be gone. Your Melenin is precious.

[@whysensenotpracticefr5732]

💜❤️

[@bgcrp2005]

Ngl I feel like it depends on how dark you are like if you were brown skinish it wasn’t that bad

[@Raphaelx2ily]

My best friend is dark skinned & we'd always argue over was prettier. I thought she had better skin, she thought I did b/c I'm mixed wht/ light (almost wht) skin. I thought she was lucky to have her hair texture b/c she could change her hair daily if she wanted, but she thought I was lucky b/c my hair is long. We still get into the "No, you're gorgeous!" debates, but now we're more appreciative of our own looks.

[@rastallw]

I am an attractive darker skin man and I love to hear that from lighter skin blacks. It's important that we educate others, others being those who are unaware by nourishing, and loving ourselves. I think lighter skin blacks are so beautiful just like me. It's funny because alot of my female friends these days and for sometime now have been fair skin. We don't even notice that because we feel each other's spirit. Amen

[@charleshutchinson6170]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥❤❤✊✊✊🏅🏅🏅👊👊👊👊💪💪💪💪✊✊✊✊

[@supervirtuouswoman]

She should have asked the light skinned women if they wished they were dark skinned.

[@m.s9146]

If they are honest they will say “no.”

[@pipette1001]

the host has a fantastic speaking voice. very well educated.

[@sjurjans7137]

I noticed this too... wonderful articulate clear speakers! Very educated..no "ums" no "ahs"

[@calynnmlawrence]

im a medium skintone. im about 1/2 shade darker than the tanned adrienne bailon, sum call me light and sum call me dark. i believe that darkskinned people hav such a rich skintone and their features are much more defined. thats y most black models are exotic and dark like emanuela de paula, leila lopes, alek wec, fatima etc. u can b beautiful despite ur color tho. i just dont understand y people put light skin on a pedestal

[@selectorjahoutofjahfarisound]

Light skin and dark skin crap affects men just as much as women. There is definitely a disparity between how light skinned and dark skinned men are viewed and people act like it does not exist. Most black women, and especially light skinned and biracial women, can OPENLY express their disdain for their light skinned counterparts and no one says anything. However a black man can't say he prefers light skinned women without a backlash. What is funny is that they will say a black man liking a light skinned female is self hating but a biracial light skinned female only liking dark skinned men is NOT self hating?

[@salmaabdullahgb]

+Jah Selector AKA Jason Thompson. True

[@savagearistocracy4756]

Sooooo true. Im mexican though, so...I dont think its self hate that I like really dark men...just preferance

[@tyronnoble9570]

Savage Aristocracy we'll you don't count.

[@murk1876]

Savage Aristocracy bitch

[@RosySpeaks]

Selector Jah You make a great point and it is true. Well said.

[@vme6892]

I get called light and dark, so I don’t even know what complexion group I fall in. Plus, I have skin undertones. I am also constantly accused of bleaching my skin, but I get dark in the Summer and light in the Winter. I get these questions a lot from a lot of grown women.

[@deebee8170]

This is my first time seeing this show. It was really informative. As a black woman I could never understand the dark vs. light issue we have. It's very stupid imo.

[@ArtofBliss]

I'm a light skin black woman and I look white. I think dark skin people are the most beautiful looking people on the earth. When I was a child, I wanted to be dark so so bad. All colors are beautiful... let's just love each other! Good video!

[@HurricaneCamille-us6mp]

You "look white?" Okay 😂

[@javajive01]

It's alive and thriving in Georgia. I was shocked by the comments my neighbor made about my skin color (I happen to be lighter skinned) to my face. Shocked because I'm from NY, where this just doesn't happen. But it is clearly relative, I don't think of myself as "light skinned," but I have a sister that is, to me, light skinned and she has had many problems related to skin color.

[@esemusic8294]

Curious to know what your neighbour said. I know I'm late! 😄

[@indigothecat]

I actually sat through this whole thing. It's a shame the show was canceled. :(

[@Shadowcontheoriginal]

You too brother. We walk the same path in life. That of which is blessed and not forgotten.

[@deedeedmr]

Thank you! I have a Biology Degree and I am so sick of the ignorant, uninformed things people say concerning race and genetics. It is so stupid!! Race is a myth, it is all about familial relationships. People from similar geographic regions are more closely related historically!! I really don't understand how these ridiculous ideologies continue to persist!

[@mansamusa2012]

Your right dark skin women have it hard. It's funny because there was a time when dark skin men like myself caught hell. However, that seems to have dwindled.

[@norrisb0616]

Ooh, that girl is SO CHOCOLATE!!🥰🥰 YES lord my Goodness!!!🤩

[@Williamwestp24]

What makes it worse its the people within our own community. White people its more expected but not from us.We use negative stigmas against each other due to skin color and it has to stop.We need to stop perpetuating colorism on all angles. Example would be if you're a light skin woman or man, you appear to have more class than a darker skin man or woman.

[@coppercoloredgal]

Am so sorry that this production ended...am very pleased with this particular piece. Will hope to see some additional uploads on this channel concerning topics like this. :))

[@jesualdo2000]

great program, thanks

[@xxperrasxx]

Wow, such a great clip!

[@sofiajay1]

nooooooooooooooo why the heck did they stop doing this?? only just found this only to realise its the last one from a year ago!! damn its so interesting BRING IT BAACK

[@MahoganyConsulting]

Wonderful show!

[@taidavis230]

I actually wrote about this topic for my college entrance essay so it was wonderful hearing adults discuss a topic that many shy away from. Amazing forum!

[@oneworldpi]

An interesting and informative conversation. As a society, America has a loooong way to go to recognize how it promotes and sustains racism. Within the black American communities there is a great deal of dysfunction; most of it is centered around racism and its concomitant burdens. Colorism is an off-shoot of racism, internalized by the black community. This is particularly painful because it is self-inflicted pain that is too often NOT recognized.

[@kurtpatterson1296]

Many brown skinned and chocolate Black men are showing a preference for women who are lighter or white.Many Black women are showing a preference for chocolate men,as well as white women showing the same preference if dating Black men.In the hip hop videos,the lighter Black women are prominent.I believe most of these colorism biases in the U.S. are generated by certain brown and chocolate Black men who are not attracted to women who are the complexion of their mothers and sisters.Chocolate women who want men who are the complexion of their fathers feel that rejection from men who share their complexion.Lighter black women who have faced discrimination sometimes want their children to be darker so they won't face the same, that's why they sometimes prefer darker men than themselves.

[@charmee6284]

My goodness!! Sir, you hit the nail on the head with your conclusion. I grew up in a household with 3 black men ,all darker than myself who only value racially ambiguous looking black women or non-black women. My 2 brothers, and my stepfather( my mother is much lighter and I don't mean just brown skinned, but light). This instilled a feeling of rejection from a really young age. I am 28 still carrying these feeling around. I don't feel good enough, pretty enough, feminine enough. Your insight on this was really presented well.

[@kylelowry1521]

It is the brain that matters to me

[@lindaburnette195]

We are washing out our laundry. Am dark skin with a light skin daughter and one carmel another brown

[@hydrolito]

They also lightened the picture of Tonya Harding skin on the cover of some magazine after she was a suspect as a conspirator in the Nancy Kerrigan attack. just months before and it seems no one noticed.

[@originalnation4046]

The rabbit proof fence was an amazing film, thanks for mentioning it on here.

[@jessicawashington2708]

I am writing a thesis on the controversy of light vs. dark skin within the Black community. May I use this video for my documentary?

[@crashtubes]

I hate to quote Lady Gaga, but "You were born this way!"

[@og-greenmachine8623]

Should’ve listened to your first mind

[@rhonusolodawg08]

As an African American male I can validate the idea that their are unwritten rules and laws esp. in the South. I have overheard many of my students suggest that they would not date dark skinned boys or girls becuase they were not beautiful. Its sad but we have to change the way that we think.

[@samriffic26]

this program was wonderful i wish there were more like it. i just found your channel. sorry that this was your last show.

[@SepherStar]

I'm white and I think that the very dark skin that some Africans, Melanesians, and eastern Indians have is beautiful. I think a lot of these people make a mistake by trying to lighten their skin. I had a co-worker from Africa with very dark skin, who had a talent for makeup. She never attempted to make herself look lighter. Instead, she accented her dark skin with a lot of medium and dark reds for lip gloss and it gave a very nice ebony and mahogany look.

[@jasmynelee1617]

Imagine living in a place tht doesn’t have a foundation shade past tawny or caramel and you’re mocha or when you see ppl who are supposed to look like be lightened in the media as if being dark is ugly it’s easy to speak on the effects without understanding the cause hearing don’t be outside too long or ur pretty for a dark skin girl as if you’re some kind of outlier the beauty industry is drenched in colorism it’ll make you do some wild shit

[@smukase]

subscribed! keep up the good work

[@MarcellaAlexzandra]

I have brown skin and I have a certain skin condition that if I i was light skinned or white I would look like a blotchy mess. I love the skin I'm in. God knew exactly what he was doing when he blessed me with the color brown.

[@julesmogul]

it's so sad that this show is over :(

[@thenorthman515]

Really?

[@steffylvmk89]

some women just need to let it go !! I mean do you really build your self-estime on whoever is on the cover of a magazine "Beyoncé" ? She is a beautiful woman but she ain't no standard sorry. Be strong and confident individual you are beautiful in your own way point blank.

[@Shadowcontheoriginal]

Thank you, Thats very Kind :)

[@miavonni]

Tall men are looked at as dominant and you will see tall men in the upper management or higher rank in the military and its very sad! as for the light skin issue I remember my grand mother saying how beautiful my cousins kids were cuz they were soooooo white white! and eyes blue blue! and Im not even that dark but a kid will never forget comments like that and it damages your view of reality!

[@lilshopohorrors]

I have...It's something everyone should know about and understand that we are doing it to ourselves. Stop the viscious cycle...

[@MizSizzle]

love to hear positivity!

[@morrisgreen6863]

I noticed that he told his daughter that her beauty is on the inside, which proves that he as a grown black man, still haven't accepted darker skin as beautiful. I also noticed the women in the group didn't particularly like his comments.

[@homidontpl8]

Nooooooo, not the babies!!! That part with the babies hurt me, man

[@Love2bereal]

too bad these issues will NEVER end

[@afroblack1000]

Ur welcome Bro, stay blessed

[@donbarnes4012]

Well said ma'am.

[@lizgichora6472]

Beauty is skin deep, it's not in the color of the skin but from within. Thank you for an empowering talk.

[@SilverSaiyan93]

@lilshopohorrors I completely agree. People, particularly us youth, need to start reading more.

[@vanessasmith3628]

Africans are light without mixture

[@rickeyslake]

lie.

[@sowhat...]

Vanessa Smith so how do you explain dark black Africans?

[@SnowFoxParty]

@@rickeyslake it's TRUE. My bf is dark skin and his mom was born in Nigeria and she is very light skin. And so are his siblings. It's quite common even in hot Africa

[@rickeyslake]

light skin isnt even common in america, let alone africa.

[@SnowFoxParty]

@@rickeyslake it doesn't have to be common or not. It exists and it's starting to exist alot more. Nothing we can do about it.

[@afroblack1000]

nice one

[@Shadowcontheoriginal]

Thats very nice of you, Thank you. But i think in all actuality You are truly Human for understanding how i Feel, and Responding in a "like" notion. So you and i Have life in common. Bless you friend. And thank you for your comment.

[@NAprincess324]

Mixed Latina. We I'm not 100% African, and I am lighter but I have still experienced racism and experienced negative stereotypes. So should I be excluded?

[@sjurjans7137]

I am Eastern European (white)... I find this show fascinating!... We didn't have Slave trades etc in Eastern Europe... will someone please explain to me if this is how African Blacks think too?... or is this more of an African American (descendants of the American slaves?)... very interesting... thank-you!

[@LUVJONZ99]

The Hampton Roads region is so underrated......lots of potential.

[@englishjumper123]

EVERYONE ONE SHUT UP AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER. WE WILL NEVER GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.

[@afroblack1000]

Great comment

[@Rmasai]

Colorism, intra-racial discrimination, and etc., lets call it what it is "white supremacy' which equal racism. Read the works of Neely Fuller, and the late Dr. Frances Cress Welsing to get a clear understanding.

[@veronicaapav8975]

This helps to create particular jobs AND To sell books🤗🥳🤗

[@diamondsweetful]

amen to that

[@dessypetite]

amen brother!!!!!

[@CherishLove2]

Willie lynch

[@rayali9854]

yes

[@4september1947]

I love the colour of my skin - the colour my mother and father gave me - inter racial discrimination is alive and well within my own people

[@ditocerto]

They call it colorism.

[@slimdudeDJC]

After all she said about the militancy and being a revolutionary, the man next to her comments about "having the Afro pic" to top it off. Then she says, no, "that's too thuggy" . . . I wore an Afro much of my young life and couldn't make a pic stay in my hair b/c my hair was too wiry and parted too easy. But I thought it was cool, even still.

[@Shadowcontheoriginal]

Thank you very much. That is kind of you and is actually better than a "like" click.

[@supervirtuouswoman]

I have be4en called red bone, yellow banana, miss lily white, pale face, etc.. I remember sitting on the front porch in the sun trying tio get a tan after rubbing butter all over my body but I just turned red. I guess my story is a little different, I always wanted to be dark skinned.

[@laradara7175]

Yeah you better own who you are ✨

[@LaythWazir]

Being a good parent " mother and/or father" is to teach your children to look beyond skincolor, and to look at the person behind that skincolor. If you are not able to look beyond the skin color than your parents have failed raising you. unfortanatlly there are many shallow people in the " black community" who only look at skincolor and give their views on to their children. Your skincolor doesn't define you, your innerbeauty defines you.

[@talking.to.my.selfie.]

the lady at 10:36 broke my heart :-(

[@n23817]

The concept of "identity" is one that is almost deliberately glossed over by the tenacious "obsession" with skin colour in communities where there is clearly white heritage in a significant proportion of the population that is denied for political and social reasons. You don't have a lighter complexion because the "stork" was white, for heaven's sakes. The reality is African Americans of very mixed heritage are amongst the most ardent practitioners of racism in their own communities.

[@ditocerto]

No they're not. You've never lived in a latin American country obviously.

[@dessypetite]

dude u don't have to be light skin to be mixed, I'm dark skin & i'm mixed. Dude you need help

[@kylelowry1521]

Yeah ur mixed with blueish green eyes

[@vatricegeorge]

You are correct some bi racial folks are darker brown.

[@crystalblur3]

This is my first introduction to AV and i really enjoyed watching this whole thing. I cried when that lady cried.

[@iscavengersam]

Growing up in the town I lived if you were not white you were black regardless of what color brown you were. As a light skin African American Women I have received so many negative and back handed comments from darker African American Women and only from those people. It's always amazing to me when darker women act like they are the only ones who experience negativity because of there color. Whenever I start working at a new place and I am around darker AA women I ALWAYS get negative comments.

[@Embraceyourcurls24]

Samantha Monique yeah as a biracial, I’ve experienced the same thing. But they feel that we can’t experience colorism.

[@stoneeck2994]

Paper bag test!!!....love it...

[@og-greenmachine8623]

I pass😎

[@samuelsagwa4351]

@@og-greenmachine8623 what

[@og-greenmachine8623]

@@samuelsagwa4351 Not interested

[@NandiNdlovu]

TRUTH

[@CookieMadnessMonster]

I'm 12 and people tell me that all the time. But I noticed that I'm Nigerian and if they think there is something wrong with me I don't care. I'm proud to be true black.

[@lorebay2593]

Say it loud, I’m black and I’m proud!

[@driimark1537]

negro? ok

[@Kay-sc9se]

@@driimark1537 ???

[@driimark1537]

@@Kay-sc9se ¿¿¿

[@Karamelkissiz23]

I disagree with you. Many countries of Africa were colonized by Europeans; therefore, I'm sure that many Africans have adopted Eurocentic values and images of beauty. I've heard several of my African friends talk negatively about their nappy hair texture and how African men "love" light-skinned women. Therefore, this issue affects all peoples of African descent within the African Diaspora. This is not just an "African-American issue."

[@NAprincess324]

And no one would be saying shit I those biracial s were dark skinned with courser hair so please.... They'd probably still call them mixed but since they look more Afro centric they wouldn't exclude them

[@SnowofLight]

So every time I walk down the street, I subconciously instill fear into the hearts of everyone I pass by? Cool.

[@SofakingPastey]

THE DARKER THE FLESH THE DEEPER THE ROOTS!! ITS ALL LOVE BABY :) CAN YOU DIG IT?!?!?!

[@jessicawashington2708]

May I use this video for my thesis on light vs dark skin black americans??

[@junior2404]

I am me!

[@crissm222]

only if everyone thought like you! :)

[@BreAnaDeezy]

This shit only still goes on in my black community. I'm an average shade brown, somewhere in the middle I guess, not really light and not really dark. But I have seen blacks of ALL shades that are beautiful. This is ridiculous. I have never had to experience discrimination based on colorism, thank God. But I think it's more shameful that I get more compliments from whites about my skin and natural hair than blacks.

[@originalnation4046]

my mum is dark black and my dad is brown, and im light-skin. your wrong.

[@carrll46]

That woman is mixed! and besides in order to have a true debate on this issue with black America you would need a larger panel with at least a few more people and 2 black men in all of our color hues in my opinion!

[@carrll46]

+happystar888 Absolutely! in order for black America to have real' round table discussions, concerning our issues and concerns ' if they are to be truly ' meaningful' you must include the entire color spectrum! and both genders need to be of equal number. otherwise in my opinion , it makes the discussion a joke.

[@BlackMist123]

They didn't even cobsider a lighrt skinned bm like wow.

[@jadenwoods11]

@mushiyaa ... dats tru...

[@cjtox3506]

i have a kenyan friend who went throgh the same thing. i know what you mean. its bullshit. she's the most beautiful person i know. all the best to you

[@AL-TitoVidal]

I look at the heart of the person 🤔

[@WesleyPipes2838]

@swagboi7 You read my mind.....