Strong Wind Paragliding Take-Offs, BELGIAN OPEN 2024 | Le Grand Bornand

[@us2043]

Belgic looks beautiful

[@tricotronic]

why not lower start altitude? i mean. so much thermical action and no one lower the starting position. This might help bc. @ lower position = wind might also be lower.

[@Larzemensch]

You even saw some pilots start much lower and thus having less problems

[@NelsonsWings]

Excellent! Love it. Very interesting, and very instructive. It's fascinating how the pilots on the D and CCC wings did better, on average. 😅 I think I can guess why.

[@annejanroeleveld]

Yes, that's true. In most competitions, pilots with CCC gliders have less impressive starts.

[@jeanpaulgonon]

A St André les alpes, on décollais généralement par 35/40 de vent, Au grand Bo, j'y ai fait des vols merveilleux avec des pointes à 3500 mètres et des vols sur le chinaillon aller retours. Certes la pente est raide, et faire des wagas en dessous était monnaie courante, un jour étant débutant, 20/30 vols je décolle vole toute la matinée, me les gelant je me repose au décollage, me réchauffe au soleil, et redécolle pour un très long vol d'après midi en Juillet, en hivers décollage skis aux pieds du Lachat pour un posé un peu avant le stade de tir qui était avant ,notre attero standard.

[@nomoreidea]

Ce n'est pas facile mais on voit bien que ceux qui "prennent le temps" d'avancer vers l'aile au moment du lever s'en sortent mieux que ceux qui semblent vouloir se débarrasser de la formalité du déco.

[@crazyangel4109]

Beautiful wings

[@urbanstrnisnik1655]

what was the wind speed and gusts here?

[@jamiefly]

It's not worth it .. wait it out... Because you can doesn't mean you should...

[@annejanroeleveld]

During a competition, you have the pressure of the start time. It often involves some stress.

[@Society.x.]

@@annejanroeleveld Not worth spending the rest of your life being spoon fed though is it.

[@voron27]

ahaha. me on 0.33 few days ago)) was fun and few scraches left. windspeed about 7 m/s not safe especially for beginners but doable for experienced i guess

[@kocot.]

after the initial bloopers, most managed quite nicely in fact :) I wouldn't call it unsafe conditions, but one could wonder if you can make a good and safe task in such conditions around Grand Bornand.

[@turkeyphant]

Why aren't they using cobra?

[@Speedflyer2000]

Yes i think it makes more sense too

[@cabanford]

Cobra works well in smooth laminar wind - can be nasty in swirly, gusty mountain conditions.

[@Speedflyer2000]

@@cabanford yes might be true and those high AR Wings does not make it easy for taking off

[@alexandrebancel7902]

I wonder also. I was there and did a cobra. Why so few people use it ? It is a mystery for me.

[@Alipat73]

​@@alexandrebancel7902 Most of them never practice cobra launch technique

[@redaab9635]

Magnifiques moments.. j'adoooooore

[@paulbishop7399]

some good skills here and some not so good :)

[@bobflyman]

I've flown there. Lovely place, but l didn't take off in winds like that. 😅

[@arwedbamert9171]

I watched beginner videos how to learn the start and now i watch this video with crazy starts 😅

[@us2043]

practice and master ground handling

[@hans-wolframhangl1026]

Wer Hochleister Schirme fliegen möchte , der sollte sie auch starten können!

[@priicey3]

Is it worth it ? I think not

[@Jaytonic3]

any idea of the wind present(how many km/h?)

[@annejanroeleveld]

+/- 25kmh

[@kABUSE1]

@@annejanroeleveld At first I thought "no way" but on further inspection this seems accurate. Wind sock also indicates around the same (on the verge of being fully extended). But now I have no idea how some of these people end up in a competition if they can't even start in 25 km/h wind. Weird.

[@ValdeirViana-k7m]

imagine the wind on 7:32 landing time !!!

[@turkeyphant]

What was the wind speed?

[@annejanroeleveld]

+/- 25kmh

[@turkeyphant]

@@annejanroeleveld Thanks. So nothing crazy then.

[@martind5596]

25kmh is windy in the mountains

[@luiscevevery123]

La stupidité n'a pas vraiment de limite. Il y a des conditions dans lesquelles il vaut mieux s'abstenir.

[@maminfrabass7713]

C'est une compétition

[@alexandrebancel7902]

J'y étais, le bruit n'aide pas mais tout les pilotes sont plutôt aguéris. Certains n'ont pas décolé, mais ceux qui l'ont fait, dont moi, ne sont pas forcement des stupides. Bien à vous.

[@luiscevevery123]

@@alexandrebancel7902 Aucun doute sur le fait que les pilotes soient bons, mais il y a des conditions dans lesquelles, il faut savoir dire non avant un grave accident. Et, ce dans tout sport c'est valable. Ici cela me parait le cas.

[@jul7257]

Ah le parapente et ses moralisateurs… perso je n’y vais pas car je n’ai pas le niveau et un déco en forte pente comme le mont lachat ce n’est pas simple mais à 25km/h de vent ça vole… chacun son niveau

[@BenjaoSepúlveda]

Y cómo estuvo ese task? Volaron bien?? Sería interesante saber si hubo muchos pilotos en gol o solo salieron a sufrir y buscar aterrizajes seguros con ese huracán... En todo caso, yo sería de los primeros estúpidos en estar volando😅 ...esos paisajes ❤

[@RapperRoms]

Amanzing 😅

[@valerimihaylov843]

The second guy - 0:17 - 0:40! New wing? First competition? Too old pilot? I actually expected more skills and control from a competitor 😲

[@TheGrundigg]

The problem with most competitors is that they are not actually that experienced. They might fly a lot of hours but not a lot of years and they just jump onto those CCC gliders while never really doing proper ground handling time. It's an ego overload unfortunately. That's why you get so many mid air collisions and terriffic take offs.

[@sylvainlathuy2702]

J'y ai décollé et ce n'était absolument rien d'extrême comme certains commentaires le suggèrent. La vérité est que le micro de la caméra ne supporte aucun vent ce qui lui donne l'impression d'être bien plus fort que ce qu'il n'était...

[@testtest-in2sq]

Just why aren't they tunning into their wing to dessipate the energy? Basic things that's learn during the apprenticeship...

[@Bs_pysich]

Do fly with CCC too?

[@HubertLR]

Or start from a little bit down the slope ?

[@mikecoupe7095]

Was that really taskable?

[@alexandrebancel7902]

A liot of the take off in this video - if not all of them - come from the first day taht wasn't taskable.

[@YoannMabit]

25km/h c'est tout à fait faisable pour des pilotes aguerris, ma limite c'est 18/20. Mais je ne comprends pas les gars qui prétendent décoller à 40km/h, avec une mini, je sais pas, mais une voile normale me semble impossible. Même full bar au départ, ça ne laisse pas de marge si les conditions se durcissent... Me trompe-je ?

[@unclecharlie.]

Belgium has mountains ? 😂

[@TheGrundigg]

it's not taking place in belgium, normal thing with these competitions. Just organised by the Belgium sport federation and flying in France

[@unclecharlie.]

@@TheGrundigg 👍🏼

[@dkjens0705]

Incredible control in these conditions.

[@DutchParaglidingGirl]

Zijn de omstandigheid beter als je eenmaal in de lucht hangt? Of is het ook in de lucht eigenlijk gekkenwerk? Onderhoudend filmpje overigens 😄

[@annejanroeleveld]

Eenmaal in de lucht ging het prima, alleen kwam je niet zoveel vooruit. Ja, echt popcorn time. Soms ook wel tenenkrommend :)

[@hartman12349]

6-7 m/s silny vitr ? , zeptejte se tech co hobluji 5 metrove duny , ti pod 10 m/s ani nestartuji 🙂

[@hansdijkstra5814]

Vreemd dat iedereen z'n scherm vol door de wind heen opzet?

[@annejanroeleveld]

Weinig cobra starts inderdaad. Het kan op zich wel maar veel piloten lopen niet mee omhoog / waren niet door de knieën gegaan voor de start. Bij zo'n stevige wind start ik zelf altijd iets lager op de helling. Dan heb je de ruimte om omhoog te lopen en de energie eruit te halen.

[@matthiasstockl7823]

Anstatt das Geld für Hochleister auszugeben wäre es für manchen besser in Starttraining zu investieren!!

[@Speedflyer2000]

@@matthiasstockl7823 start training ist sogar kostenlos!

[@DreamWorldPortals]

the most disturbing starting video ever

[@FragCool]

I thought Belgium is more flat...

[@handle535]

Le Grand Bornand is in the French Alps - which is famously not flat lol.

[@FragCool]

@@handle535 you don't say ;)

[@Larzemensch]

This was in 3D

[@MartijnvanGene]

Oh come on, doesn't anyone know how to cobra?!

[@TheGrundigg]

Nope, most of them never did any ground handling, went from high B to CCC and just hope for the best on launch because they are good in the air x)

[@martinginsburg7222]

A pilot would not launch with these conditions If forced to launch a pilot would know the wind is lower down the hill and move down Only saw a bunch of desperate flyers in this vid who haven't earned the title of pilot

[@happyslappy5203]

Le Grand Bornand is a french village, so why do you call this event "BELGIAN OPEN"?? If it's a Belgian contest it must be done in Belgium?

[@handle535]

This is normal. The 2023 German Open was held in Greifenburg, Austria and the 2024 German Open will be in North Macedonia, the 2024 British Winter Open was in Colombia and the 2024 British Championships will be in St Andre, France.

[@verttijineu2776]

No "real" mountains in Belgium, half of the country is flat as a pancake, and the other half has got some smol "summits", the highest is Signal de Botrange (694 meters high), barely a hill in France.

[@PhilippeLarcher]

No?

[@TheGrundigg]

bro...

[@MarsG0Dofw4r_]

Open your mind, Quaid, open your mind.....😂

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