LARGE RV DEALERSHIP RIPPING CUSTOMERS OFF!

In this video, I talk about how an RV owner recently got ripped off by a large RV Dealership.

[@GovG33k]

I almost always perform my own work. But if I must have some other shop do it, I always ask for the old parts back, unless there's an expensive core charge. If there's a core charge, I politely ask them to show me the old and new parts.

[@MrAdamNTProtester]

That's a wise thing... however as afar as I am concerned if you aren't interested in DIY preventative maintenance then you should not be driving your house on a freeway... it's not just about YOU & your home which are exceptionally important... its also all the other drivers on the road & their children that are at risk of harm when mechanical failure occurs at speed in transit on a highway... it is almost guaranteed that because it's an RV you are going to a scenic place hence 25% of your driving will be taking you on narrow [non idyllic] roadways etc It is not hard to turn a wrench & remove a plug to drain oil/tranny fluid... to check the gaskets on the plug & install sealer before refastening... a filter wrench is a one time expense that pays for itself after a few oil changes... checking & replacing a belt/air filter is also something a child can do... so everyone who RVLife's should be responsible & learn how to do their own preventative maintenance... the better you know your rig the sooner you will be leading a truly INDEPENDENT life on the road!

[@brewbaker312]

Mop and glow makes a good sealer or that’s what the dealer says.

[@billyhendoe4170]

Yep, always ask for the old parts, keeps them honest.

[@cardo1111]

Unfortunately if you are at a repair shop that "specializes" in your vehicle they may have plenty of old parts but not necessarily your old parts. Additionally many people are not familiar with repair parts and the service required and really won't know what parts they're looking at and can still be taken advantage of.

[@dubmcbride5952]

Well said Andrew, I’ve had 2 high end motor homes and you are spot on. You have learned a lot in a short few years and pass on what you’ve learned generously. Thanks pal.

[@Riker-eq2yv]

Great advise as always Andrew! I purchased a new car last month and paid cash yet the salesman said I had to see the finance manager, I asked why, he said that was there policy, I asked for my check back and all of a sudden I didn’t have to see the finance guy.

[@kerrykerry5778]

LOL, I went through that clown show at a dealer. I arranged a deal on the net and the phone. If the car was exactly as described I would buy it, in exchange for a bank check for TOTAL of X amount, out the door, tag, tax, registration, everything. The car was great. I told the salesperson that I was heading down the street to a branch of my bank, to get the check cut. He then tells me that I MUST see the finance manager first. I walk in the office and the bullshit starts. I cut the lizard off and say, "one of two things will happen here. I will either head to my bank for a check in the amount we agreed to, or I will head to my truck and drive home. You tell me where this is headed?." He decided that he wanted the check...................

[@sylviat8461]

That happened to us when we bought a car one time. When I pay cash, leave me out of the damn finance office!

[@keithryals1642]

I was recently looking to buy a small Travel Trailer I told them I was financing through my bank and yet they still wanted me to see the finance manager. I kept asking them could they write up an invoice so I could take to bank they told me to tell them the approx price that I wanted to finance. I'm think that's not how this work plus I'm sure my insurance company would like to see what I'm trying to get coverage on.

[@docholiday1034]

First thing you learn buying anything....never ever ever tell them your paying cash. They loose a bunch of money. You let them break it down...get the best deal. Get it on paper....than deduct all the extras. Hand them the money... Most times they wont even sell it too u or will hang there head..😂

[@BusyBeeCompany]

I always pay cash and load up the motor, top verson, all options...one dealer called me a fool for not going for the 0% financing...i got $4,000 knocked off which id not gave gotten for that 0% finance and i never had to worry about missing one payment then finding that zero was now 7% .

[@davidfrank2824]

I always work on my own vehicles. Back in the early 2000 I had ordered my first Harley-Davidson. After placing my order I went to the parks counter and ordered the shop manual for the bike. Once it came in I spent the winter just going through the manual and to make sure I had all the tools necessary to do my own work. Same thing when we bought our first boat. The broker talked us into buying a used boat first. He explained that if we did not enjoy boating that we wouldn't have a large investment. We went ahead and did it that way. When we did this we were getting ready for winter. That spring we started having a lot of problems with the engine. We found out that the exhaust manifolds were rusted through and had allowed water into the cylinders and hydrolocked the engine. The mechanic at the marina wanted anywhere from 4 to $5,000 to fix the engines. After I told him that I'm not going to pay you that kind of money that's when he got mad and told me not to bring my boat back to his shop. So when we left I went online and order the manufacturer shop manuals and realize that this was a very easy job to do. He had quoted me that the parts alone were going the cost somewhere between $2, 000 to 2500. After a few Google searches I was able to buy the name brand and have it shipped to my house for less than $700. Once I received the parts it might have taken 2 hours at the most to put my engine back together. I always Tell people to try things their self. With today's internet there's not too much out there that you could not find help with. I enjoyed your video look forward to the next one.

[@windycityl]

This one car dealer was putting in saw dust in the oil when I walked in on him. My Grand father at 9 yrs old showed me how to work on cars. The hard thing about was changing breaks on a 1948 Buick in 1959 had both my uncle and grand dad laughing at me cause the springs were stronger then me. Well back to this guy saw dust in the oil to make it seem smooth and quiet. I said at 13 yrs. Old that's not right you doing that. He over the years had me look very carefully in the oil part with my fingers down the sides of valve covers for saw dust. But back then lots of car dealers were doing that as far back as in 1972. Well we all know we have to keep our eyes on places that are suppose to fix things. 1973 had a Toyota Celica wanted new plugs air filters since its was under warranty and car ran like crap and checked the car out nothing was ever done and was told your set. OMG I gave that manager a hard time and said was calling to report this place to the news people. Please I'll have you fixed up myself he said.

[@freelander4058]

Sorry but that’s the usual by all dealerships. InnTexas they add $3500 to $5000 + just because . Makes no difference if it is new or on consignment I really got ripped in my last buy . I could get down and read the date on the tires . They gave me and inspection . And the tires were over 6 years old .

[@elli003]

You know something is wrong with the RV industry when the are willing to discount a demo at a trade show to this degree: $ 950,000.00 Newmar for $ 535,000.00.

[@j.j.austin2225]

Hi Andrew… Just a quick note to thank you and commend you on the incredibly “Creative“ way you got your point across on the dealership in question! I gave you a big round of applause and you gave me a great laugh! You are terrific! Thank you for all that you do for us out here in the “trenches”!! 👍

[@gbmoves7902]

Andrew looking out for us. Classy guy is what you are. Thank you.

[@danielchandler7223]

Does GB stand for gravity bong

[@r.d.r7658]

hes trying to get and keep enough likes to get paid why do you think he dose so many videos dont be stupid he dosent even have a real rv he has a phaeton or claims to some rvers have always been easy targets yeh he reminds of of a truck stop wheel polish hustler

[@MrCgs60649]

The 21 people that "dislike(ed) this video are the shady RV salespeople . #Scammers

[@tdav225]

Isn’t that the truth. Up to 57 shady dealers as of 8-14. I’ll listen to Andrew any day

[@kipdon]

90 of 'em as of Oct 10, 2020 (huh?) They're Growing? Who's watering them!!?!

[@Lex-Rex]

"If you haven't bought an RV" -- Don't.

[@crankychris2]

Best post so far. Seriously, rent from an RV owner. A thou a week for a 5 year old big class A, about half that for a smaller B. Easy to find. Think about it no servicing, storage, insurance, or depreciation. Sure beats owning one...

[@papasquat355]

@David Bryant Nothing with wheels (other than some classic cars) are investments.

[@papasquat355]

@David Bryant yes, on a comment board. Your comment indicated that RV's are a bad investment. I agreed with you (you should be proud). They, like cars, have a non-investment grade purpose. I "needed" to tell you that for the same reason you "needed" to comment on the original post.

[@rolandwartenberg2259]

Would like to disagree :-). We had one for 13+ years, and we loved it. If you are looking at the purchase purely from an investment/ROI point of view -> you are spot on. In the moment you drive away from the dealership you probably already lost 10-15% of the value. But in 13 years owning and using our RV, driving around the country, spending a lot of time in RV parks where our daughter spent great times and met new friends, not having the need to wait in endless lines in airports when going on vacation, having the flexibility to leave for vacation whenever you want, even ad-hoc … all this is priceless. Again, just looking at the purchase price of an RV and what you might get as reselling value one day … no question, not a good investment. But if you look at it from a total cost of ownership, including all costs you had to pay when not being on vacation with an RV but in a hotel etc. -> it’s a different story.

[@kipdon]

Oct-10-2020 There's now 90 that "dislikED" this video -Prob the shady RV salespeople.

[@kthekeeper5117]

03/09/2021 130 S hole shady RV salespeople.

[@dougmyers6013]

Reality....RV's are not investments, investments do not depreciate like a brick from 10 feet.

[@stephen5147]

Lazy Days of Tampa had my new class A diesel pusher for a few days to do a repair. During that time they put a cut in the outer sheath of the 50 A electrical cord. They initially admitted to me they had done it, but then started LYING to everyone else about it. They never took responsibility. It fell to me to get the cord replaced. Listen to the voice of experience... don't ever deal with the crooks at Lazy Days.

[@loriw2661]

S Douglass Or Camping World.

[@maddesignsinc]

Oh shit

[@jofus3604]

"Lazy Snakes" has only been that kind of thing about 30 years or so!

[@TheGregWallace]

I believe I would have whipped someones ass! Or I would have gotten the cost of that cord out of them one way or the other if you know what I mean.

[@stephen5147]

@@TheGregWallace Yep, I know what you mean.

[@biblereader4life]

I never buy new, never buy from a dealer... Sadly dealerships for the most part are poisonous snakes waiting for their next victim.

[@Richard.Hybels]

No doubt about it. I drove 100 miles to look at a rig once and said I would think about it. Half hour after I left I thought of a question and called the salesman. “Oh I’m sorry a guy just came in and bought it but remember the other one I showed you?” Right 30 minutes later a guy bought the rig for cash. I did a number on them on Yelp they won’t forget soon.

[@paulontheroad]

I have a theory that RV dealerships are where discredited used car salespeople go.

[@jamesoncross7494]

Always write the date on the filters when they are changed.

[@wingz94]

You need to talk to Michelin... per their website and CSR they actually state the longevity of their RV tires is 10 years. What they state is every year after the 6 year mark to have them inspected. The other thing they highly recommend is to use your RV every 30 days. The reason given was the chemicals in the tires needs to be reactivated with use.

[@tonycrabtree3416]

Most tires need conditioning by getting up to temp or you take the weight off the wheels.

[@ld5954]

In my opinion, If someone pays for a service of any kind, And that service isn't provided, It's called "Fraud"!!! The crooked people who commit this crime should absolutely be called out and named to the public! If this happened to me, I would take their rotten asses to court!!!

[@derricwilliams1913]

Good information Andrew. Sad that people are taking advantage of others.

[@patserra9506]

Speaking of maintenance. All my chasis maintenance is done by a trusted diesel shop and don’t use any dealers. My diesel shop allows me be in the area of the coach while they are doing what needs to be done. So I know the repairs are being done as expected.

[@crossroads5771]

It's not dealership, it's stealership.

[@circleinforthecube5170]

just steal an rv What are the cops gonna do? Ram a bus sized house on wheels with their tiny dodge charger?

[@markbond6196]

Buy the RV at the dealer. But when it comes to drivetrain maintenance, don't go back. They know nothing about Cummins, Detroit, Caterpillar, Allison. Many of the chassis are built by freightliner. Take it to those respective dealers. They are actually less expensive than RV dealers, and they know their product.

[@scottforrest2097]

Mark Bond Absolutely agree with this statement.

[@campingalan]

Good morning Andrew! Happy belated 4th of July to you! Thank you for this video! Bleh...it just sheds light on the type of operations that we wish weren't out there. The fact that this company deliberately charged for a SAFETY feature and didn't install it is criminal!

[@marylandflyer5670]

RV sales make used car sales look classy. That’s sad.

[@Ram-re5em]

THE FINANCE OFFICE IS A RIP OFF OFFICE. I LAUGHED AT THEM AND TOLD THEM NO TO ALL THE JUNK THEY OFFERED.

[@andrewlabat9963]

So 77 dishonest sales persons must have watched this vid, or a few employees of that Lazy dealeship..

[@mememadore3174]

Thank you for making sure people are aware of this.

[@harryballsnack7297]

Imagine being smart enough to earn the cash to be able to buy a fancy rig but not know that dealerships are full of sh*trats

[@ozarkliving7263]

Buying an RV should be like purchasing a car. Zero emotion, 100% facts, tons of research, out the door price drives it all. There is always another great deal to be had. When I had my Country Coach, I did all my own work, I downloaded and read all the shop manuals so I knew step by step what needed to be done. Also researched the Allison and CAT recommended fluids, filters, and grease. Educate yourself is how you prevent these issues. You have to be an expert on your coach and all it’s service items. If you aren’t that bright and detail oriented, unless you have loads and loads of cash, stick with a hotel. Second time around, a 2022 Airstream Flying Cloud 23CB bunk is in my heated/cooled garage. Tow vehicle, 2021 Toyota Sequoia 4WD Platinum trim. Mechanically these AS’s are super simple to fix yourself. Both purchased brand new so I know exactly how they are treated. Until a Republican gets back in office, diesel and fuel will continue to skyrocket, so I’m not even tempted to get a newer tag axle.

[@hayyarbrough]

Thank you for sharing that with us.... my lifestyle 5th wheel from a dealership here in Chattanooga Tennessee... actually in Ringgold Georgia had warranty... boy they burnt me good... had several problems give $2,000 for washer and dryer washer was leaking had to fix it on my own... commode seal leaking they said they fixed it all I had to end up go back to it all myself... work so hard to get your RV... and the dealerships don't stand behind it... enjoy your videos like always thank you very much... just had to vent a little bit..

[@helenboula3538]

I'm already bored with it fix he's doing right now so I'm out of

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

It’s really a shame what has happened to the dealership model when it comes to cars and RV’s. The finance person is the sleaziest part of the dealer by far, but selling an expensive upgrade and not installing it is illegal. I wonder who’s fault it was? Maybe it was an honest mistake, but maybe it wasn’t? We’ll never know. I like the five year paint protection products that finance sold, but you had to use the “renewer” every six months to keep the warranty. What a joke!

[@rmachetti9717]

Andrew, always enjoy your videos, you always have a great attitude and genuine concern for others. In today's world there are not many people who operate in honor. Keep up the great work and keep being yourself! Thanks and travel safe this holiday weekend and...Hope your having a Great Day 😀

[@brianmoss5483]

Should they had a blowout, and found out they didn’t put the tyrons on I think they would have a case.

[@Richard.Hybels]

They had a case anyway. It’s called fraud and it cases of fraud you can get punitive damages.

[@Caocao8888]

People rushed in to buy RVs because of COVID, so they ended up buying high, but will have to sell low. As for salesmen, they really do lie. One told me that he needed the sales commission ”for my family.” But he had told me 20 minutes earlier that he was single. And a car salesman said they were ”very low; down to only two” for the model I wanted. But when I went online, I saw that they had 15 in inventory.

[@turfguy420]

# lazy days

[@gregoryschubring4795]

Grow a pair Andrew and name the bad dealerships

[@WeAreWhiteLight]

That is not 'laziness' @3:33 (on the dealership's part)... it's called 'theft of services'!

[@somarmd]

I think a clue as to who the dealership was.......Lazy.......:)

[@enyoc3d]

@@somarmd probably lazy every day... days and days of laziness

[@lynndora5046]

It’s hard to get honest work from anyone this day and time

[@crankychris2]

It sure as hell is!

[@goleafsgo8496]

Finding a reliable and honest repair facility can be so difficult. BUT remember great service and the cheapest price normally are not found in the same place. If the price is super low ask yourself or better yet the garage why?

[@americanspirit8932]

I purchased a brand new diesel motorhome from lazy days and they were top-notch I've also experienced I purchased in my life 43 brand new cars buyer beware but I must say when it comes to a motorhome take off anywhere from 25 to 40% off the MSRP price that's the real price don't let the deal with fool you thinking that he's giving you a good deal knock it off $2,000 off the MSRP when you can get anywhere from as I said 25 to 40% off the MSRP good luck

[@deanhauser6626]

American Spirit 43 new cars, what are you buying, throw away cars?

[@KMT15]

Dean Hauser you do realize that not everyone is middle class, right?

[@gawags4709]

I replaced the house batteries on my coach a few years ago. Wasn't until I had driven most the way across country that I learned everything they had done wrong during the install. Really luckily I didn't have an electrical fire. I think finding qualified reputable companies to provide services and repairs is one of the most difficult puzzles peices for RV owners. As a full-timer I really don't like wrenching on it but if you want it done right better just do it yourself.

[@brianc.612]

Andrew, you are a good man. So refreshing to listen to someone with integrity and gives a damn. Thank you and keep up the good work!

[@guspaca494]

Thank you for the valuable info you provide on your channel to help others.

[@TheLolo919]

Same thing that a car dealership does to you🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@MJ-zo5gb]

logan smith At least cars have lemon laws and you can make them buy back your car. Not so with RVs and you end up with multiple different warranties for each part of your RV. Give me a real headache if something is defective.

[@tommetz7587]

Hello Andrew . I am brand new to rving . My wife and I bought our first rv about two months ago, 2020 entegra aspire 44w. I purchased it at national indoor rv center in Atlanta . Our experience was amazing. They did not try to sell me anything. Even after our purchase agreement was complete my salesman told me that he forgot to deduct the money for the air fair for us to fly out to pick up the rv . They never said anything to me about air fair reimbursement. He brought us back in the office and deducted $500.00 off the final price . The delivery experience was amazing. We were treated like we were there only customer . Two months now after our purchase every time I call my salesman he answers the phone . Even on Sunday . I actually can’t wait to go back to for some minor warranty . All the people are so nice .

[@DutchStar443]

You’re a solid dude, Andrew. Thanks.

[@dtha0820]

So Appreciate you Sharing your knowledge! We're looking at Newell In Miami, OK. & hoping they'll be upfront & straight with us.

[@RVingwithAndrewSteele]

I've heard nothing but great things about the folks in Miami, I've heard their customer service is amazing. just make sure you bring your checkbook 😁

[@icare7151]

Jail time is needed for dishonest dealers and mechanics.

[@debbietaylor8091]

THANK YOU FOR OPENING OUR EYES

[@missaneido7417]

Excellent points. Thank you. This fraud is prevalent everywhere and dealerships know that there will be no repercussions. Even when the dealership is unaware, they may just have a lazy tech avoiding work. Never own any equipment that you can't maintain yourself unless blessed with an unlimited budget and enjoy being ripped off.

[@duckslave]

Andrew - this is probably your most valuable video for the new RV buyer! All the dealerships I’ve encountered do try to sell the paint and fabric protector, extended warranties and other highly marked-up stuff. You can buy an extended warranty for half or less of what dealerships charge for them - simply because the dealership is marking-up the warranty by 100% and putting 50% in their pockets.

[@horizon42q]

Agree

[@duckslave]

Oh - and most dealerships mark-up the bank financing interest rate and the difference goes into the dealers’ pocket.

[@robreighter2851]

I thought that it would be prudent to do research before purchasing our first coach. So, we drove from Denver to Red Bay last summer to tour the Tiffin factory. After all, they’re a top manufacturer of motorhomes. Right? The tour was impressive to say the least. BIG Operation! BIG Facility. When we finished the tour they had us walk through new units waiting final “quality checks” before being presented to their owners. Each “finished” coach had a long list of problems to be corrected prior to delivery. We saw poorly fitting components that were not even on the list! We then went to the camping area where new Tiffin owners were waiting for warranty repairs. I was shocked!! No motorhome for us...

[@EndlessRVing]

Hey Andrew great video. I have read horror stories of Lazydays. RV owners need to take maintenance into their own hands or find a reputable mechanic not a dealership. When MJ bought her Escape they tried to hard sell the extended warranty with the fear tactics and I cut the sales manager off by telling him we were having second thoughts purchasing the car and maybe we should reconsider the Honda CR-V. That shut him down. Salesman are there to take your money and you have to be prepared. Thanks for sharing. Izzy

[@Ram-re5em]

FINACE OFFICE GOT ME FOR NOTHING HANDED THEM A CHECK AND I WAS OUT OF HERE.

[@kurtmcmichael2045]

Thank you For sharing

[@roydavis2242]

Michelin recommends taking your RV to a Michelin dealership and have them inspected every year after 5 years. They say if properly maintained you should get 10 years out of them. The inspection is for road damage and cracking. By maintained they mean properly inflated at all times and covered when parked to prevent UV damage. I've seen 10 year old Michelins that were fine. Did you know they can X-Ray tires?

[@maddesignsinc]

Roy Davis I don’t know anyone on the road who had more than three years.......

[@josea5949]

As I always say. Take care of your vehicle and it'll take care of you!

[@AmericanMX]

You got it correct. In aviation we call it PMI. Preventative Maintenance and Inspection. I appreciate all your videos. Great information for learning before investing. Thank you.

[@joemonroe9402]

Sir Andrew, greetings.. you are looking good..vibrant..you are so blessed with the true spirit of love for others...its needed so much today...thank you..prayers always for your journey... peace within👑🤗

[@marydonaldson6139]

Great video...you encourage us to be firm!🙌

[@christopherrasmussen8718]

You get the tool with the tyrons. wow sue sue sue. I know mine are there. Watched them go on. Do my own oil and filters. Smart dude.

[@twofeathersrv]

So very true. They give quality shops a bad name.

[@timothywalton7673]

Link to the sunglasses?? Great vid and great advice!!! 😎

[@nowweride3094]

Andrew I have been watching you for a long time and I been thinking and dreaming now that I'm retired on getting a super c .. but now that with everything going on and more and more ppl are buying RV's is there going to be any room at the camp grounds? Geee I don't know I wanted to do this with my wife but we just don't know anymore! Any help, comments, suggestions or opinions that anyone can give would be appreciated..

[@butwereallsombdyspecial]

This is exactly WHY I don't trust buying these RVS

[@waynebailey9152]

Great video! The truth hurts...there seems to be more unscrupulous dealerships than good ones and it is a shame. You did prompt me to take my 2014 Winnebago in for preventative maintainence before hitting the road for a long trip. Just put 6 new tires on it, had the slides and A/C units serviced. It runs great but changing fluids and filters is super important!

[@chrisnnm4766]

I would not go back to my dealership for an oil change etc. I take my to the local Fright liner facility in town. Never had a problem with the quality of work.

[@rickcampbell4920]

What have you heard about National Indoor RV?? Thinking of a new Dutch Start from them.

[@oursomedayisnow3915]

Love the Manufacturer's Forums. One of the best ways to do research on your future purchase

[@sonny5973]

Congratulations you nailed it.

[@docbrady6397]

I bought an RV from Lazy Days in Tampa. I took it in to their Village location for repair and they smashed it up. It was a nightmare to get it fixed and I went around for months. Bad place, bad people. Tonya

[@jamesdaron3344]

Would like to hear about your F&I days in the car business. Would be interesting content and curious why you lift that business. Good F&I guys can make good money. My sense is you were too honest, didn't make great money and not welcome to stay.

[@danielchandler7223]

Bro bro I know andrew personally and u are barking up the wrong tree.....U HAVE NO CLUE WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT

[@jamesdaron3344]

@@danielchandler7223 Please, tell me more.

[@SurfCityVideo]

Most states have an agency like the Bureau of Automotive Repair. I would encourage people to report such incidents of fraud to the proper agency.

[@maddesignsinc]

Buckley’s in Thurmond did that to me......and I caught them on repair work

[@MasterSumai]

Buyer Beware! You got that right!! DON'T BUY FROM MEYERS RV SALES AT ANY OF THEIR LOCATIONS!!!

[@PatX2]

What a "Lazy" dealership.

[@stu2355]

Hi Andrew really enjoy the channel. Unfortunately the ripping off of people is not confined to the RV industry. Same applies to car dealers and people selling big ticket items.

[@crankychris2]

And the boating industry.

[@superdude1759]

I don't know what happened, but you left the commentary about the tire bands, or whatever they're called. You started talking about a bunch of other stuff and because the video is so weirdly chopped up due to your weird edit I didn't know if you were ever coming back to the subject. I only have so much time. Left your video at the midpoint. Next time I see a video from your site I'll just skip it!

[@mikecharette5271]

Great video! I purchased back in October 2013 a new 2014 GMC half ton truck loaded for over $62,000.00 in Calgary Alberta. I was always a GM man but that was the worst thing ever I did in my life! I brought it back 17 times to get things fixed and they never helped me out at all! It had Bad Year tires on it, the cheapest line! They vibrated so much the only one that liked the ride was my girlfriend! Bluetooth my ass! Had no teeth at all! I lost so many calls for business on the phone people got frustrated with me talking while I drove! The mileage was from 12 liters per 100 right up to 28 litres at times for no reason from different driving! The heated seat only worked on low out of 3 settings! The only thing that worked great was the heated steering! Froze my ass at -40 Celsius! Lemon laws don't apply for Canadians! Was a bag of lemons! After owning it 9 months, I lost $30,000.00 when I got rid of it! After these salespeople take your money, forget about it! Never drive another GM product for as long as I live! The government should be protecting us more against these criminals! But, that's another story!

[@cn9630]

AS A PANCREATIC PATIENT WHOM HAS HAD TONS OF MEDICAL NIGHTMARES - I HAVE LEARNED TO TAPE EVERY CONVERSATION!!! To the man who says they put a cut in the outer sheath of an electrical piece (?), admitted it,... THEN LIED ABOUT IT THESE TAPES CONVERSATIONS COULD SPARW YOU BIG BUCKS AND PROTECT YOU IN CASE OF A SMALL CLAIMS COURT CASE! A simple recording on a cell phone is all it takes!

[@escotthollingsworth6074]

Think RVs are bad? I looked at a video about a $40 million yacht that sank in the Aegeon sea, just out on her maiden voyage. Brand new, but she rests at the bottom.

[@MonacoMike]

There was a BIG law suit over that one and the insurance company wouldn't pay up. I think the owner had to settle for something like 10 Mil. There were some very suspicious circumstances about that one.

[@escotthollingsworth6074]

@@MonacoMike It goes to show that even high priced items cam fail. One would think that money would take care of faulty merchandise.

[@donbruder6838]

Buyer beware for sure,Thanks Andrew Great Information,when I bought my new Super C I asked you about the coating they wanted to sell me and you told me then to not do it! I didn’t and I Greatly appreciate your honest opinion,saved me $2000 !!

[@janicesanchez8257]

Thank you VERY MUCH for this video...we are looking at possibilities of purchasing a RV. We might not have thought the process completely through...thank you!

[@sheilastarlight5257]

Yeah the Tyron bands were hard sold to me. I had to get 6 new tires 2 weeks ago and there was NO bands. Got my RV at CW. It seems they are all shysters.

[@kentalexander936]

Spent my time in car sales. Finance will steal you blind. For example, a new Honda doesn't need undercoating. F&C would sell it. Sheesh.

[@MollydogRadar]

I know you can't name the shady dealers, BUT I CAN. We got ripped off by La Mesa RV in Mesa, Arizona. We bought a used 2014 Thor Tuscany at the RV show in Phoenix. The fridge was not on and we did not know how to turn it on. The salesman said it was in display mode, but it works fine. We go ahead and buy the unit and go to Mesa a few days later to pick it up. The fridge was on, but blowing warm air. The man giving us the walk-through said it takes 24 hours to cool down. He lied. The fridge never did work and 2 days later the compressor blew up. Lucky it didn't catch fire. I called La Mesa and talked to the Manager, several times. They would not fix it, so I was out 2400 dollars for the repair. AVOID La Mesa RV.....

[@jasonclift7253]

My wife and I are retiring soon and really want the RV life for adventuring around the USA, but the more videos I watch about the nightmares of RV ownership, the more we are turning away. It's just sad when people don't do what they say they are going to do. Sales and service doesn't seem alive anymore in any industry, it's more sales and scams. Thanks for your videos - They are eye opening.

[@welewisiii]

sales business is sleazy in general. but there are good guys if you do your research

[@sw.1984]

Yeah, im gonna do a cost analysis as just a vacation family. Buy one or just rent an rv or hotel it. Until I retire. Then ill buy one (used, let someone else eat the depreciation), because it will be a long term deal.

[@Frossyt]

Making a ton of money off an rv is not enough. They want you to have bigger issues so they can make even more money.

[@ronlawrence5021]

LOLZ "Lazy Dealership" I guess it was 2 weeks ago my wife and I were out RV shopping in Phoenix. We went to a bunch of dealerships just to reorient ourselves to how the industry has changed. We did look at a few models on the Lazydays lot. And honestly, no one did or said anything that caused me any concerns....but keep in mind we were just looking and we never got into any negotiations. The thing that made me decide to take my business elsewhere was when I began noticing the employee's personal cars ( we were the only customers on the lot). Every single one of them was brand new or nearly new...and I'm not talking Toyotas. These were BMW's, Teslas, Mercedes..... Don't get me wrong. I want everyone to be fabulously wealth. Just not off of me. But when you're selling 20 year old Class A's for $240,000.....maybe that BMW costs chump change in your world.

[@rickt1951]

Sounds like you might be talking about a certain RV dealership in Fl. and I went on the BBB website and they had 47 straight 1-star reviews. People are just LAZY do your homework.

[@droningharry]

R.V. O.N.E. I will say nothing more. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!! 3 Months to fix an Awning and the Ripoff factor is beyond reason. Stay away. Mom and Pop is where it's at. They gotta eat so yeah it makes a difference.

[@LaceTomus]

I bought a 2020 Keystone travel trailer from a RV dealer here in San Antonio. Signed and thought the deal was done. We did the walkthrough and all was great. Beautiful inside and out. As the lot was not ready yet, they said I could leave it there at no charge and so I was glad about that. so I made a deal with them at the time of purchase. The day came for delivery, I called them up and asked if I needed to be there when the transport guy was to hook up. They said NO and that everything was fine that the transport was set for delivery. So, I said ok. About 4 hours later my RV had arrived at lot that I had rented. As I was getting out of my car I looked and I'm like OMG! You've got to be kidding me? The RV had holes in it. Front to back on both sides. The front awing was broken off and holes on the front door latch area. At the top by the awning was holes. The light on side was broken off. The back rear on the other side was scratched from top to bottom. The light where the scrapes were was broken off. And I could go on.. I called the dealership and told them what I had just received. and that I was taking pictures of all the damages. They said to send them the pictures and see what I was talking about. Luckily I took pictures when I did my 1st walkthrough and after as well. The driver was smart too because he took film before he left the dealership. Anyway, I went straight back to the dealership and it turns out when talking to the salesmen, he admitted that him and another salesmen knew about the damage to the back light and they tried to fix it with black tar. They NEVER admitted to anything about any of the other damages they had done while it was sitting on their lot. It took them about 8 days to pick it back up. I have been calling and nothing yet. It has been months now and nothing has been done yet. They did call last week and said they did NOT have an ETA when the parts were even coming in. I am in a stump mode and am paying monthly payments for something that I don't even have. I don't have my RV and NOW I don't have the lot. They couldn't hold it! I also found out that when I DO get it back, I will only have a few months IF ANY to have a warrantee left on it. I wish I knew what to do without spending more money out of pocket.. I am wondering if when I do get it back will the Title be a salvage title? 😪

[@cvee2614]

Great video Andrew, I normally change my own oil and filters just for the reasons you point out. Several years ago getting ready for a cross country trip, I took my Chevy Astro to Jiffy L for a grease job. Knowing the van had 13 zerk fittings. I thought lets give JL a try and a few bucks put the van on a lift and perform the task. 14 dollars later, drove my van home. Crawling on the garage floor, under the front suspension, discovered only 4 or the zerk fitting were touched, all the upper ball joints, pitman arms, idler arms dry as a bone. Went back to JL and after a few words about what I had discovered, the manager said "oh yeah, I spoke to the mechanic he said and those hidden grease fittings are had to get to". The manager refunded 5 bucks - haven't been back to JL since.

[@dinosaur6756]

Say NO to all the extra warranty and protection packages, including gap insurance. Sometimes, compromising and agreeing to pay a $500 "destination" or other scam fee can save you $10k in other hard sells. You can buy every "add on" the dealership is attempting to sell you from a more legitimate company after you leave the dealership with your coach. Things like gap insurance sold by the dealer are basically worthless because they are almost impossible to collect on. Use your own insurance company for any additional insurance products. The extended warranties are also worthless. However, there are some after-market companies that you can purchase from that will cost you a fraction of the price the dealer charges. Do your research and go in to the dealer prepared. Having your own financing pre-approved can also save you thousands of dollars. If possible, buy from a private party but only after having the coach inspected, especially the chassis side of things.

[@melissaweilbacher3544]

Thank you so much for your videos! Really helpful and enjoyable to watch. You're awesome!

[@ricktaylor6373]

Andrew just now watched your vid on the dealership rippin folks! It doesn’t surprise. I retired in 2021 from semi truck pulling tankers, most of my trucks were working class show trucks and when I once in awhile had someone change fluids I always makes them or was standing over them! I rv a good bit and last year bought a 2021 gulfstream class c. So far I’ve done the first oil change on it and inspect “everything”. Did have a mirror assembly replaced and before I left I seen it was wrong! Went back in and made them fix it right . Mechanic should have known. The motto of my not to uncommon story is do not be to trusting and always check their work or you’ll screw yourself. I’m likely a leach on them!

[@christiangchrisg3302]

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[@sondrahurst3075]

by cj .... i tried to buy from a "lazy" dealership down in florida... couldn't understand pricing. kep t asking salesman for a window sticker... he kept forgetting, then sent me a multipage document that was a computer printout... not a window sticker... but it did list options .... that dealership had listed plus an option over 1000 with a crazy part number... after multiple inquiries i called factory for tiffin... "what is a xxxyy ?" older but nice lady says no such thing.. i gave her list price and repeated the question several times... finally she advised "NO SUCH THING" very clearly and firmly... bottom line dealership had falsely added a false non existent thing into their msrp and window sticker... buyer beware at all dealerships including lazy ones!

[@douglasjre]

I agree with everything you say except for the part where it's a mechanic. Oil change shops don't hire mechanics. Only get things serviced by ASE certified mechanics fruit it's just not worth going to jiffy Lube. Everybody with a wrench in hand thinks they're a mechanic 🤣 in New Jersey it's illegal to open a repair shop for today licensed mechanic is on the premises. it's kind of like a pharmacy or healthcare. You wouldn't want an unlicensed Dr practicing on you would you?