ANSCHUTZ 1710 22LR

[@donrumato3413]

ANSHUTZ 1710 HUNTING ( not target) stock original nonmodified rifle costed in Ukraine before big war less than 2 grand in IBIS shop. I have several Anshutz rifles and for about 20 years I sow no problems. At 50 metres , for example, my 1417 G showed 3 days ago 0.15 -0.16 inch series of 4 targets with SK ST+. Its real pleasure ! I never did no modifications. Clean with bore snake and Balistol after each shooting session and from time to time with Bore Tek Rimfire Blend. Thank You, Josh, for your videos. Hope you wil find the problem i your. custom rifle

[@sjohnson1776]

Josh your'e spot on. At that price point, steller performance is a minimum. On the humble end, I have a Christensen Ranger that shot like total crap when brand new along with feed/eject issues. Called Christensen, they took it back immediately with no issue.When I got it back it was a totally different rifle. I've shot 5 round .2's and .3's at 50 regularly (with good ammo...though it's not particularly picky as to which 'good' ammo it likes) with it and now really enjoy it. This past weekend I was shooting golf balls at 101 yards with SK rifle match. Easy. I've no doubt you'll turn that Anschutz into a shooter fully representative of the brand and price point. Thanks for bringing us along!

[@williamgittins4770]

Maybe do some torque adjustments on the action screws. That may be the cheapest of all fixes to tune up that barrel to the stock.

[@majmorgan6169]

I second this... Action screw torque adjustment might help.

[@22LimaRomeo]

Bro, that editing on the shooting clips was awesome!! That was really nice to see those groups rapid fire onto the target. Editing that way really freed up a lot of extra time to dive into your opinions and experience with the 1710. Hoping you get it worked out, I want to see this rifle shooting to it’s potential in the future.

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

Thanks brother, yeah its a lot of extra work for sure. Im hoping to get it turned around pretty quickly

[@Pew_pewchronicles]

Josh. I own a 1710 feeding extraction issues are caused by short, stroking the bolt. Mine had a problem as well empty shells would fall on top of the magazine. I called Anschutz and they sent me a replacement extractor blade I replaced it and had no problems after that. I love my Rifle. It’s very accurate. Good luck with yours.

[@mlgjetfuel7697]

A big part of the reason why spent brass sometimes falls back is because you have scope rings that are attached to each other. Anschutz rifles almost all eject virtually straight up, bit to the right. So it's hitting that scope ring and falls back in there. I think if you'd bolt a pair of separate rings on there your issues should become much less

[@markthegunplumber8376]

I'm an Anschutz and Walther guy and a few things I can tell you to do is check and or try changing the head spacing with shims if possible. I'm not familiar with the newer stuff my rifles are old '54s and Walthers are KKM Spezial Matches from the 60s and 70s everything made back then is better than today. The Walther head spacing was way to tight so I pulled the barrel and rechambered it to .22 Eley EPS and played with the head space and I lead lapped the barrel with 600 grit lapping compound and then JB Bore Bright. I didn't touch the Anschutz 54 head spacing but I lead lapped the barrel as well and used JB bore bright on it too. both rifles now shoot outstanding. I don't know about the new barrels but the old ones were way undersize as compared to American barrels. American barrels are generally .217" and the Anschutz 54 was at least .216" maybe less. Seems like the German rifles like RWS Match or Norma Tac or Match or Wolf or SK Standard and sometimes likes Eley Club and CCI Standard mine hates Eley Black Box (except for one lot) and hated Tenex with a passion the cheaper the ammo the better it shoots. Have you stripped the barrel clean with some JB Bore bright and a bronze brush and reseasoned the barrel. JB has very fine grit in it like toothpaste. After i chamber customer barrels I go in with JB and lap the barrel with it to smooth out any tooling marks etc. works like a charm. Good Luck.

[@SnipeU696]

Just a suggestion. Send the rifle to Lapua test tube in Arizona for ammo lot testing. If possible send the action and barrel back to the manufacturer for inspection, possibly headspacing.

[@lutherprice2062]

Hey Josh, I’m really surprised at your outcome with this rifle. I only have one to compare it with, a friend in Florida bought one in Alabama and tested several lots of R-50s until he found one it liked. With his skill and the 1710 he wins much more than not. He came in second to a guy at a 100yd shoot in Lakeland who has a rest that cost as much as the rifle but the following day he beat him handily on the 50yd shoot where you must shoot off bags. His rifle and Gavin’s are the only the only experience I’ve had with them. On a side note I have a RimX coming from Kenny soon. Great video and good luck finding a solution on the Anschutz.

[@tomgray9561]

Why not contacting Anschutz in Alabama and get their opinion?

[@martinm.5588]

Hi Josh, had the same ejection issues with the 1710. The brass was hitting the scope mount and fell back into the chamber. I think I could see it as well in your video 2:55 I had to move the scope mount two picatinny slots toeards the eye. And so re-adjust stock and everything. Now it works perfectly. Hope this helps. Greetings from Germany. Martin

[@jimhamilton3544]

Yes I also saw the shells occasionally hit the scope adjustment knob and ricochet back into the action upon ejection. I couldn’t believe I was seeing that until I watched the video again two or three times. 🤭

[@thangcung1993]

I always like your videos because of your honesty ❤❤ love from Maryland

[@briansupermag3918]

Man I feel bad for you. I have a 1761 Anschutz 22wmr and it's a tac driver. My buddy has the 1710 with grs stock and his 22 is a hammer. I bet it's a chamber issue. But I am sure you cleaned it our maybe a terrible carbon ring. All things to look at. I am absolutely looking forward to your next Anschutz videos.

[@shouldBgolfing]

This was not the video I was hoping for but one that mirrors my experience thus far. I shoot a stock 1710 out of the XLR chassis for NRL22 and chose the Toric for glass (based on your recommendation) and wish the rifle lived up to the glass! Me and an Anschutz bench rest friend went through 10-15 lots of R50 and settled on two different lots. Most lots shot closer to .3"+ at an indoor range while the ones we bought shot .2" or better (I find that SD really strange). One of the groups even had 4 shots in 1 hole (never done that before or since). I also think the magazines suck and find that misfeeds occur several times a match. As an antidotal note, a CZ457 friend shot the same lots...grouped more of them better, and his best lot was pretty much as good as mine...WTF? If you solve either the crazy Standard Deviation or the magazine sensitivity issues would love to see that follow up vid. Keep up the great work!

[@johndees967]

Firing Pin Drag!!!... that is causing the bloody crazy SD's.. and change your firing pin spring. Get a Wolff in there.

[@MichaelWright-l5o]

It is obvious that your knowledge of the Anschutz 1710 is very limited . The 1710 is designed to be a hunting rifle not a target rifle . How many Olympic shoots have you participated in ?

[@shouldBgolfing]

@@MichaelWright-l5oYour perceptive abilities are correct, my knowledge is based on exactly one rifle worth of experience with the 1710, and I have not shot in a single Olympic Shoot (nor claimed that was the purpose). What I would claim is that Anschutz North America sells the gun multiple chassis and directed me toward one for my stated purpose. The only obvious point, on the other hand, is based on your arrogant and insultive reply, you're an ass. If you don't have the ability to remove your ego and try to help people, just move on.

[@joed3264]

I own a 1972 year Anschutz 54 that still shoots one hole groups. Bought it at CMP South - $200.

[@joshuagibson2520]

One hole at what distance?

[@joed3264]

@@joshuagibson2520 50 yds. Actually shoots low .2s with Eley SABRP

[@63grandsport11]

Your Anschutz was designed and built to shoot 50 meters with Eley Ten X So it will shoot very well at 50 yards. The year your rifle was built. Jack Writer of the US used a Anschutz 1413 match 54 with Eley tenX to win the Gold medal at the 72 Munich Oylimpics.

[@jimmccaffery410]

Hey Josh, I know the feeling well. I have RimX magazine envy big time. My 1710 is mounted into an XLR Element Gen 4 with a C-6 and folder. The breach opening is not scope friendly. I was lucky to get a DIP 25 MOA rail for it. There’s something up with that rifle. I can shoot lot tested R50 at 100 yards and consistently shoot.250 groups, and lots of .170s. It shoots Eley Match really good. The SK Rifle match, not so much. Anshutz North America will probably get it shooting right if all else fails. My barrel is threaded. I couldn’t make out what’s on your gun. I went through a period of erratic behavior and it was the thread protector coming loose. Anshutz said put a piece of that Teflon pipe wrap tape on the threads. No more problems. Over tightening the protector will stress the crown. That will kill accuracy. About every 750-1000 rounds I use Iosso gently and the barrel looks like new through the bore scope. Look at the casing marks on the rim. If the firing pin spring is weak that will get you into trouble. The imprint should be deeper than the stock CZ. Good luck, I’ll be watching with interest.

[@hickslightfoot]

First off, I LOVE all your videos. I love your attention to detail. I love the effort you make on these videos. I love your calm vibe. But I've always wondered about the variable of shooting outside. Maybe 50 yards wind doesn't make much difference ? I've imagined a 6ft fence running along each side of your range wrapped completely with a tarp the whole distance :) I don't know, maybe I'm over thinking it... anyways... keep up the great work... love this channel...

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

50 yards is fairly consistent even in changing winds, if moderate. Eventually my plan is to have a 50 yard tube to shoot through

[@rustynut1967]

With it being good one day and not the next I would suspect something with the bolt, firing pin spring rather than the barrel. Maybe feeding and marring the bullets with a different magazine? Did you alter the magazine between it shooting good and bad? Good luck.

[@TehBaggins]

I have a 1761 and know several people with Anschütz of several types, and there's a thing that goes for almost all of them. When you're shooting for groups, they seem to want a lot more foulers before they settle in. Minimum 25-30 rounds before looking at the result when changing ammo types, sometimes even more.

[@CougarCdr06]

totally agree. I have a new 1710 and it takes at least 15 foulers before it settles down. big pill but that is what mine takes.

[@TehBaggins]

@@CougarCdr06 Yeah. Hurts the wallet when it loves R50 once it's settled in, but it shows in the results. I have already scored 150 points three times with 9x, 8x and 8x in the 100m sporter rifle event we have at our club in training. (100m/110yds, 15 shots in three minutes, X-ring is 17.5mm/0.7", 10-ring is 38.5mm/1.5", non-attached front rest, no rear bag.) I believe Josh will get his 1710 sorted, but it needs to run the same batch of ammo for longer before trying to make a conclusion on the rifle or the ammo. A CZ457 tends to be far less picky when swapping ammo, so it's just a question of getting used to the new paradign that an Anschütz will bring.

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

@@TehBaggins i shot it quite a bit before and after this video. Some of the ammo i ran a few boxes through. More testing to come for sure. I know it has potential and we will get it sorted for sure

[@TehBaggins]

@@PursuitofAccuracy Oh, for sure. I've had to teach a few club members more patience coming from other platforms like the CZ457/455/452 and various Tikka, Savage and Ruger to Anschütz, so I was just defaulting to that mindset. Keep us posted, always love seeing new Anschütz owners in the wild. Somehow, most of them stick with it after figuring out the teething issues.

[@cincinnatimatthew]

I recently purchased an Anschutz 1761 that I use for squirrels. It has has a walnut stock and a 2 stage olympic trigger so It’s not a top of the line benchrest rig by any means. I’m getting better accuracy will CCI Suppressor at 50 yards than the high-end ammo you used in the rifle. The 1761 is totally awesome.

[@joshuagibson2520]

I agree. For that kind of money it should be lights out no matter what.

[@brianmoore1164]

Hmmmmm, don't be too quick to leave the feeding issue. If you haven't already, try a few groups single loading the rifle. I suspect that the round is not chambering smoothly and is picking up a mark on the projectile from time to time. Just a guess, but worth a few groups to check.

[@bernardmcdonnell6720]

my thoughts exactly, load and eject a few mags and examine the bullets. I'd bet you can see shiny lead.

[@sk8snwmx]

@@bernardmcdonnell6720 Just check the chamber and you will see shavings if its happening...

[@michaelpayne8102]

Bingo, need to start limiting variables and isolating it to the problem. If things are great when not using a mag, then start with only using a single mag. Each mag has the potential to work a bit differently.

[@arnoldmoos1791]

A friend of mine has one of these and it shoots fantastic. He uses Eley semiauto BR match I think its called. He competed in a BR match against guys with custom built expensive actions and won the match . Ten ring the size of aspirin and a dot for X

[@toddswan9737]

Three years ago I bought a 1710 from the custom shop, after testing and trying to troubleshoot anything it would only average out .350-.450 at 50 and was a big disappointment. Sent it back to ANA the sent back a brand new barreled action…same or worse! They kinda had a denial problem right from the start when I questioned each rifle even after yes the thousand rod break in recommended. Like you said built well but much cheaper rifles I have shoot a lot better. Decided to rather then take a big hit trying to sell a problem rifle to someone else, I did some research to find a guy or a smith who regularly does Annie’s. I decided to on recommendation to thread the action and replace the factory barrel with a Shilen Rachet 24”. Also some of the newer Annie’s can have a light strike issue so upgraded the springs in the bolt to the JP custom product sprigs. 800 bucks later I have a .250” 5 shot multi 6-7 group averaging rifle. Also I Lapua Test Center the rifle and bought ammo for it

[@Odiss]

Thank You very much for this video. it was quite useful for Me.

[@pmelchman]

Josh I appreciate all you do for the community of precision shooters. To connect with your subscribers look at the camera lens and not the monitor. We will feel like you’re talking to us. Keep lithe testing and info

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

Thanks. Yeah its hard to do sometimes being a 1 guy show. I tend to use the monitor to make sure focus etc is all good lol

[@pmelchman]

@@PursuitofAccuracy I understand totally. It would make our viewing easier. If you’re shooting with cell phone or DSLR, manual focus. If you’re using iPhone 15, I recommend Black Magic App. You can use a mouse to adjust your iPhone focus , view on the monitor, then cover the monitor and talk. A few of the videos you moved the monitor closer to the lens but still off by a 10 ring…lol

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

@@pmelchman haha yeah im using mirrorless with manual settings. I try and look into the lens but being constantly worried about the settings causes me to not totally connect with the lens. Im working on it though

[@jim199959]

I currently have my 1710 at the gunsmith. Trying to shoot it with the iron sights. It shoots low. Need to find a back blade for the rear sight that’s taller. These things need work. All race performance guns have fine details to be taken care of.

[@howardjohnson5734]

hi run a bore scope in and see if there is flaws , there is a below suggestion about action screws ,anschutz uses bevel washers on the screws ,i have retorqued mine and accuracy improved

[@Jeff-mv4yy]

Josh, not sure why that would need bedding in that mdt chassis . I thought one of the advantages of a chassis was that bedding made no difference . What’s your thoughts on the benefits of bedding s chassis ?

[@sofjanmustopoh7232]

Sometimes it happens. But it hurt even more when you paid that much for the rifle 😅. Like you said . We want our rifle to shoot well especially when it is that expensive.

[@fujimatosa]

I expect more from Anschutz. It shoot the same group like you did with CZ 457 and bergara

[@22rimfireK.P.R.]

Try adjusting the action screw torque

[@trentarmstrong1988]

Who makes that adjustable bag rider, and where can I get one? That thing looks awesome!

[@shootingwithtony7418]

I have a 1710 competition. I had to send it back to Anschutz NA to get it to eject consistently. It came back and is almost perfect with only 1/100 ish not ejecting properly but it is still weak ejection. The rifle shoots amazing groups with pretty much anything I run with the obvious that some shoot marginally better than others. That being said, I do find I need to clean it more often than other rimfires I own as it will start becoming really inconsistent. I also have light strikes with Eley ammunition that I don't get with the SK/Lapua line up so I purchased a few cases or SK LRM and called it good. Good luck and I will be following along.

[@ronengel5736]

u said it all"I'm not an Anschutz guy" you never have been!

[@audieladd2476]

I agree 100%! These KZbinrs get their knickers in a knot if manufacturers don't provide freebies or part thereof. Anschutz doesn't have to provide freebies.

[@sk8snwmx]

Can't wait for your follow up videos on this one!

[@Strutingeagle]

New barrel time.

[@michaelbutler4961]

I look forward to what you come up with. I have an Anschutz 1903 single shot and I have a problem after about 25-30 rounds the bolt does not want to open without using a lot of force at about 40 rounds you have to pound on the bolt with your palm and mean pound to get it open. I've shot RWS, Sk, Laupa, and ELey all with the same results. Grrr

[@danielnepomuceno]

Hi Josh, thanks for the videos, very good! I practice precision shooting at 50m. I'm on the fence about buying a $2,000 Anschutz or the $1,500 CZ457 LRP. What advice would you give me? Thanks.

[@urgamecshk]

Lpr

[@danieldegoesnepomuceno6197]

@@urgamecshk Thank you Julius Jahn. Anyone else want to leave their opinion? Let's see who wins, CZ or Anschutz!

[@danieldegoesnepomuceno6197]

Who wins, CZ or Anschutz?

[@germansahidbeltranardila2985]

Huuuuyyyyyyyyyyyy huuuufffffffffffff que hermosura de escopeta

[@JaredRobinson-c3i]

Have same rifle. Same exact experience's. One day does great, next day I'm disappointed. I do have the 1710 dkb that I pillar and glass bedded and it out shoots the more expensive bench setup most days more consistently. It is also finicky with ejection. In the end, I'll keep it as the trigger and overall experience is a pleasure.

[@TarcisioPassos-e6y]

Quanto custou esse rifle?

[@takedeadaim8671]

Do you have the ability to scope the chamber? I am wondering if it is slightly off being coaxial with the bore. Every barrel has some degree of curve to it. There is just no way to drill 30" long 0.205" holes and have them all be as straight as we would hope. The more of this there is and where it is in a particular rifle makes it harder to get the chamber perfectly aligned to the bore and there is simply nothing more important when building one. You can spot it with a 90-degree mirror on a scope and that might be your answer. Im sure they lap their bores and it will be all smooth and shiny inside but if the junction of chamber to bore is not equal all 360 degrees the chamber is not lined up with the bore.

[@richardmattix5322]

I wish it had a varmint stock on it and a one pound trigger to hunt with however if it is only a benchrest rifle so be it I will adapt.

[@rikoshea765]

Interesting review. Expensive here too and was thinking about one for 22 steel targets - mags are preferable to bergara and voodoo doo. So interested in a comparison between begara b14r and annie 1710.

[@djalluget6870]

Great video welcome to the world of anschutz

[@BROTUNED]

I know the feeling have spend big bucks on a couple center fire rifle that just wouldn’t shoot even with custom hand loaded ammo. It’s a terrible feeling

[@wowguy3562]

The non aics pattern magazine seems wrong in a beautiful chasis like that, I have faith brother, you will turn the Annie into a hammer for sure

[@JohnBartley-zd5bd]

I sold all my guns. Sako A7 25-06, Winchester 9422, Cooey 22, Mossberg 12 guage. And bought a 1761 Anschutz in 17 HMR, and later a MPR barrel (22LR) for it. With Vortex 4x12 power scope. And a little later, Anschutz 1710 HB, Leupold 3x9 Rimfire scope, with single stage triggers in both. Best magazine is the 1761, very easy to release and attach. 1710 I find is just okay, if fingers oily from handling ammo, hard to release magazine, finger or thumb slides on the release. Shouldn't have to spend $ for an extension on I high value firearm. Hornady 17 HMR ammo used in an indoor range, very happy, haven't tested out to 100 yards yet. It's just me as the shooter most days is the problem with some accuracy, but even surprise myself periodically with how accurate they both shoot. Would better scopes and proper rests help, absolutely. I maybe have an ejection problem once every 150 rounds in 22LR, never in 17 HMR. And it seems to go away if I cycle the bolt fast in both 1710 and 1761. Still very happy. I do miss my 9422 Winchester which as a teenager bought in the mid seventies. Winchester should bring it back, with some minor modifications for todays 22LR market. Thank you, Pursuit of Accuracy. Day at the Range. And Cyclops. Love your videos....

[@mda7763]

I have and have had many Anschutz rifles. I prefer them over EVERYTHING. I have several ones built for silhouette and they are by far the best and most common silhouette option. Among world-class, silhouette shooters, you see Anschutz rifles almost exclusively, with the army marksmanship unit you see Anschutz rifles almost exclusively, with Olympic shooters you Anschutz rifles almost exclusively, with biathlon shooters you see Anschutz rifles almost exclusively. There’s a reason for that.

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

Well a big reason is they make rifles specifically for those sports. Same could be said of nrl and prs shooters. You may see an annie but the field is dominated by 3 rifles; cz 457, vudoo, and rimx.

[@ahmed232323able]

@@PursuitofAccuracyI have just shot the best group in my life testing a used 1710 with the ejection issue fixed.. Anschutz are well known yet super rare here, and everyone uses custom CZ452’s (including myself) for competitions. I bought the thing in a heart beat and tried it.. insane score of 98.8x i.e. 8 bullseyes using ELEY Team (open-sights, @50m, prone)… call me stupid but I bought it after shooting less than 20 shots total. I hope that it keeps that up. For now I’m parking my CZ452.

[@jeffkalina7727]

Did the fact that you were the 3rd owner of a gun with little use give you pause?

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Seems like she'll shoot. Thanks for the vid.

[@markg7762]

I have the same rife I have been very happy with the way it shoots, mine has extraction issues like i was yours doing. I shoot off the bench 100 present of the time. The ammo that seams to work the best in mine is eley have never tried the tenex but the pression auto and the benchrest outlaw works great also the match. I find that the slower speed seam to be the best, I have taken mine out to 300 yards with no problems. The one thing you missed was the price of the mags at 92 bucks they could have done a much better job

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

I actually had no idea those mags were 92 bucks......thats absurd

[@richardmattix5322]

That rifle looks just like mine. I hope it shoots as good. The trigger is so light you can`t hunt with it. It is basically just a bench rest rifle or one you can only set on a structure and find the target then squeeze the trigger ever so lightly. LOLss I need to find a place to shoot mine.

[@scottfreh5884]

Having two 1710's my sample size is bigger but thankfully not the same experience. I did have the extraction issues on one of them which was dealt with by filing the extractor. First 1710 I bought was a new rifle with before mentioned extraction issue, second was a used older rifle with the ugly ass "butterfly safety" on the bolt. Hadn't been shot a lot but probably the homeliest 1710 out there, the stock looked like something off a Wal-mart Ruger 10-22. It now resides in a MDT chassis which had to be modified for the safety. Both rifles like the same ammo, SK rifle match, but shoot SK standard really well, Lapua Polar Biathlon also preforms rather well. Never had any success with RWS, Midas, or Center X. For distance (beyond 200 yd.) Eley Contact works well. Have shot both rifles in postal matches and 22 PRS matches winning both from time to time. Consistent groups in the low 0.2's with 0.1's when the planets align. Anyone who shoots much 22LR soon realizes even the "good" ammo is inconsistent with extreme spreads approaching 40 fps in some cases and SD's above 10. The best I've ever tested was a lot of Lapua Polar Biathlon with an extreme spread of 11 fps.

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

What really blows your mind is when its the most accurate at 50 yards but also has the highest sd lol. Rimfire is a fickle creature

[@grantbrittain2774]

You might play with the torque values on the action screws if you haven't yet.. no experience with that rifle but it can make a difference on others..

[@LeeMiller-l3v]

I have a Anshutz 1712. Sporter. It’s picky on ammo. It doesn’t shoot like I think it should. I’m thinking about a different barrel

[@howardjohnson5734]

hi ,your rifle appears to have a recoil lug between the barrel and the action most anschutzs based off a 54 action have the the recoil lug between the action and the wood ,I believe the mod is done away from the factory in Germany, could there be tolerance problems there ?

[@dennisholle1005]

Interesting content. Thanks for the video.

[@brettellis1837]

Well for that amount pass one should never have a problem with the last feed of round.

[@stuartbrown3444]

I have a 1710 in a GRS stock that was bedded by Anschutz NA. I’ve experienced similar performance same as you. Inconsistent grouping with any ammo I’ve tested. Looking forward to the magazine “cure”.

[@jmflying]

I have a Left hand Vudoo 360, I have lot tested over 50 boxes using EVERY brand of ammo and different lots of each. Mine will not shoot that good. The best most consistent ammo I have found is Norma Target which is made by RWS which it shot RWS Match decent. I am putting a EC Tuner on it right now and will test this Tuesday. I like I bought a $250 tuner to put on a $2600 rifle with Timney Hit trigger set at 8 ozs and I shoot better groups with my friends Begara B14 with factory 3 pound trigger.

[@fujimatosa]

Josh, how is going investigation with your bikes stolen? Did police found theft?

[@TheWheels1965]

Hey Josh, Small bore target shooting is hard work and the ammo for these rifles is Speed critical to that barrel to stabilize the bullet in flighty you need to match the speed with bullet for barrel for that distance. Plus you have to weigh the ammo first to sort it out, there is a lot shit top end target ammo out there that is way overpriced for the bad performance its putting out and Eley match is one of them. cheers mate

[@ericf4779]

Always enjoy your videos. Nice to see some German engineering. They make some great biathlon rifles. Could be the southern heat is too much for them to be happy. Any update on the ballcaps?

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

I have tracking on the hats so hoping they are out to you guys by mid week.

[@beauboydave]

It’s more than likely the magazine, I’ve owned three anschutz .22lr rifles, all of them had the same problem, which turned out to be the magazine!

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

Ive got 5 mags all with springs that were replaced etc. Maybe there is another way to tune these things??

[@63grandsport11]

Did Anschutz ever really chamber and build their rifles around anything other ten Eley Ten X

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

That is dont know brother

[@JamesS.254]

Yeah, many companies have issues with their products from time to time (lemons), but when you spend that much money on a rimfire rifle, it better dam well be next to flawless. When you can get a CZ 457 action from their base model for $450-$500 I don't know how most (not all) people can justify spending $1,200-$2,000 on a bone stock rimfire.

[@lohikarhu734]

does Anschütz 'bed' them in their own chassis?

[@ASB_Kevin-daddy]

No

[@lohikarhu734]

@@ASB_Kevin-daddy Thanks, Austin... I kind of wondered if 'Bedding' the Anschütz is a bad idea, since they are tested, at the factory, to shoot, basically, one hole at 25 or 50 metres??

[@geraldrandall1566]

I was surprised at the video as I am in the process of ordering the 1710 in two calibres. One being the 22lr. I grew up shooting weekly competitions with an Anschutz open competition sights. Although it is not long distance shooting, not putting 10 bullets into the X really came down to the shooter. I shot them for years. So I was disappointed that you have had such a disappointing experience. Especially with me in the process of buying two. I may need to review my decision. I personally drink Anschutz has and still makes great firearms. I think e problem is that the brand does attract some increase in the price. In addition, when I was shooting them, they didn’t have much competition. We now have a host of companies making 22lr at a much lower price point and shooting as well or almost as well. The issue is also that many pull the rifle it the box, shot hundreds of rounds and then compare it to their custom fitted CZ. Replaced trigger, new barrel, weighting just the way they like it, etc. I agree, with all the customisation it comes the the same as the Anschutz, but we cannot expect a standard Anschutz to fit everyone like a glove without work being done on it. I own a CZ457, and recently shot a 455 owned by someone else. The feeding and ejection issues drove me crazy on the 455. I told him to get it fixed as it was not supposed to have 3/10 ejection issues. All rifles need a bit of work. But I do agree, at a certain price point you expect all the basics to work 100%. Keep us posted as I don’t want to buy one and have to fork out a lot of money just to get it to shoot as well as a rifle half the price. But, the other rifle will never be an Anschutz 😂

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

Ive seen many perform very well. Mine just has been harder to get to that point. I have r50 lot test pack on the way to film lot testing with and to test in the annie.

[@joeykickass8284]

I have the same rifle.. I have similar issues.. I'm interested in a solution.. I've tried maybe 20 or 30 lots and it's hit and miss for me also

[@tomgiorgini9154]

so what ammo was used for the target shot previously

[@scottcrawford3745]

I believe he said RWS R50. That's what Anschutz tests most of their rifles with out of the factory.

[@jimhamilton3544]

I looked at a Anschutz.22 rifle at the gun club about two-three yrs. ago and engraved on this Anschutz barrel in large Capitol letters said, “ELEY AMMO ONLY” 😳 That was pretty amazing 🤔. There is some technical info. on Rimfire Central that says that Anschutz specifically used Eley Ammo when designing their chambers etc… ie I wonder why they are using RWS R-50 on the accuracy cards that comes with the rifles instead of Eley Ammo ! Now the cards are computer generated 👎🏼

[@tomgiorgini9154]

you were correct r-50 did not catch that the first time thankyou

[@tomgiorgini9154]

@@jimhamilton3544 interesting when spending that much on a gun they should tell you what ammo they chambered it for, also I think they should tell you the chambers dimensions which I have yet to see, been thinking about a new barrel for a 10/22, looking at kidd but he now claims you can shoot the longer stingers in it, why would you want a loose chamber in a match chamber, I cannot figure that out

[@TheGoatMumbler]

Do you clean btw ammo manufacturers? I've tested tons of 22 and if I don't run a couple patches of break parts cleaner btw manufacturers and 3-4 fouling rounds I get weird groups on the first shots because the lubes are different.

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

Typically I dont clean between. All of my rifles normalize after the first few rounds

[@angelisone]

comes in iron sites? so your setup is over $6,000.00? what brand & model of scope?

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

Tract toric elr

[@cncmillman]

I would try and make sure you are pulling all the back on the bolt in a firm movement and not going for speed to see if that helps. It’s possible that the Anschutz is more sensitive to short stroking then the other guns you are used too. I have 3 Anschutz rifles with no feed or extraction issues unless I don’t quickly and firmly pull back on extractor. Also magazines can be purchased for $70 in Canada or $60 in Europe. Huge mark up in rifle and parts in the US.

[@oscaroli4842]

I just bought a 1710 in a GRS stock ,,, it’s in the mail ,, waiting for it to arrive,,,, same set up as plinkster 22 channel. I have high hopes

[@johncostabile8821]

Lots of time behind it. SK Rifle Match Lapua long range Lapua Midas + Eley Match SK Standard plus SK High Velocity All sub MOA @ 50 yards

[@oscaroli4842]

+ sure I got all those ammunition… ELEY , SK, LAPUA, RWS . I get .400 of an inch groups at 50meter s no problems with all my .22LR , Lithgow 101A , CZ 457 Lilja barrel and Anschutz 1416 ,,, it’s the 100m benchrest targets that really make the difference,,, excited on my new 1710

[@kentb5159]

Thing was hammering with xact

[@KSM22LR]

Добрый день спасибо большое за видео 🤝👍

[@sgtlt]

Could a biathlon rifle be used as a prs rifle ?

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

I suppose you could but doubt it would be ideal

[@beauboydave]

It’s more than likely the magazine, that’s the problem, I’ve had three Anschutz rifles, every single one of them had the same magazine problem! I think there’s even a few videos on this subject on KZbin

[@prit1979]

I too like Anschutz, this is the reason I bought the 1710 being a 54 action. But till now i am disappointed with the group’s and I haven’t given up on it.. trying to figure out how to improve it. Unlike the 1710 my Sako quad hunter synthetic stock with a slimmer barrel compared to the 18mm muzzle 1710 groups consistently even with eley sport. Will be following your developments.. so far disappointed with the 1710.

[@couespursuit7350]

Best I could I scored your X-act targets and came up with an average ARA score of 383 per 5 shots and that means a full card score of 1915. That's a pretty good score for a PRS set up off a bipod and a rear bag. I would say that rifle shoots well with X-act and would clean a NRL22 KYL at 40 yards easy and score a clean run at NRL22 course of fire if the shooter was good enough. I shoot my RimX in ARA benchrest and in NRL22 using lot tested CenterX ammo and my RimX, Proof SS pre fit, in a McMillan stock with Trigger Tech trigger shoots the same, maybe a hair better as this Anny. So for a massed produced Anny to shoot with a quality action with a quality prefit seems about right. I am sure this Anny and my RimX would shoot better is say Kenny at Desert Precision cut & chambered and barreled it up with a top quality blank they would both shoot better.

[@tycurtis6038]

Hey josh, what bag rider is on that chassis?

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

Thats the adjustable bag rider

[@Antonio-jn7ox]

@@PursuitofAccuracy scusa dove posso acquistare questo chassis per l’azione 64 modello 1710?

[@jwstahmer]

What is the grip on the MDT chassis at :40?

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

Its a prototype, will have more info on it down the road

[@jwstahmer]

@@PursuitofAccuracy ahh… I’m in for 4…. 😎

[@brendonbenson]

Wow thats sounds like its twice as expensive your side of the pond. Iv 2 1710 s a xlr and kelbly they can both show a preference on different anno. But sk long range is very good in both mid 2s to 3s Something i did find R50 /anything RWS takes longer to settle in from clean probably 10/15 shots as sk is all settled down by 3 to 5 rounds. As to eley it shoots pretty good but i get a lot of failure to fire and i don't think it's as good passed 200 One last thing iv noticed with R50 both of my rifles have preferred the faster lots 333/4 meters a second.

[@Jesse-le9bh]

Thanks for an honest review. Blessings

[@johnwayne2103]

I have to agree with the magazines and in fact most firearms manufactures are super stingy about their mags for craps sakes. You would think they would give you 4 or 6 mags with how much you pay for firearms these days.

[@mirekslechta7161]

IMHO, 22 LR caliber will never deliver similar level of accuracy like normal BR center ignition ammo which you reload... I believe the problem is the ammo... The ammo box and the brand of ammo will never guarantee anything, sometimes it is good, next time not, it is always the matter of luck what is in that box of ammo...

[@charliegibson8826]

I’ve owned 2 anschutz 1710 HB both shot decent but both had ejection issues. Anschutz North America was no help with solving the problem. I ended up selling both and will never buy another one.

[@okanaganmedia]

Return it! That should be accurate and consistent out of the box. I've owned Anschutz and they are usually tac drivers. Send it back!

[@davep3163]

My experience was disappointment on Anschutz, spent a heap! But doesn't beat my CZ.

[@JT-py9lv]

Hello Annie !

[@edsonpessoa4861]

Que luneta é essa?

[@scottcrawford3745]

TRACT ELR 5-25

[@Cristopher1976]

Has anyone trued the aftermarket savage mags in these? I don't remember who makes them or if they would fit. Might be worth looking into.

[@deaczorz]

the mags are horrible yes, i think most ppl single load them for benchrest

[@joshuagibson2520]

Im not saying you're doing something wrong, but it would be interesting to lock it in a shooting vice and see what those groups look like. If nothing else it would 107% rule out human error.

[@wowguy3562]

Even sending to the Eley or Lapua test center, locked down, you still get a group, some lots are way better (the purpose for testing), but, I fully trust Josh's marksmanship and his testing of multiple types of ammo. I concur with single feeding to rule out the ammo being molested /marred by the chambering process. I would have a smith check out the chamber/rifling/crown to make sure everything is in spec, or just give Kenny a call for his input

[@joshuagibson2520]

@@wowguy3562 yeah, I'm not questioning his abilities at all. That rifle should perform better from what I've seen.

[@audieladd2476]

@@wowguy3562 Do I trust his shooting? Hmmm he doesn't like Anschutz's 🤔

[@aaron.from.winchester6744]

4 GRAND!?!?!

[@ianwoodward1554]

Great and honest review. Your cred is not for sale. 👍🏻

[@audieladd2476]

I beg to differ because I believe that Josh has reached out to Anschutz North America several times to no avail. This could easily be a beat up.

[@ASB_Kevin-daddy]

@@audieladd2476 just to be clear, I believe Josh called and I either called him back that afternoon or the next day. I do not believe he mentioned anything about accuracy issues or any issue. He did say he was having a feeding issue, and I sent a mag well and new shell holder/extractor/spring clamp. I didn’t know the rifle was bedded, this would be a big clue as to why he seemed to think the magazine was sitting lower than it should. To clarify, I’ve spoken to him once and never heard of an accuracy issue.

[@PursuitofAccuracy]

@@audieladd2476 not beating up on anyone. I talked to them about the feeding issues and the smith was very helpful. I never got the parts but thats probably a mailing issue. I resolved the feeding issues, video soon. My real complaints are the magazines feel like an after thought and my 1710 is very inconsistent day to day.

[@chrisspanks7750]

My anschutz 64 mpr has ejection issues, anyone have advice ?

[@brendonbenson]

Have a look at the ejection claw could be curved in the corner as opposed to 90 degree Also but a live round in the bolt in you hand ( no firing pin bolt ) if the bullet is a sloppy fit the extractor needs a shim to close gap up so there's only a slight movement of the round in bolt. This worked on my 1710

[@chrisspanks7750]

@@brendonbenson thanks, I'll look at those.

[@Random-wo2gs]

One word... Ignition.