ANSWERED: Justin Peck's Chassis - Did it break, or was he cut out?

[@mrjrtpop]

Thanks for all the great info

[@BootieHorsie]

4:25

[@johnstark5344]

Hay Chaz,been busy as hell lately,you are great as allways,sprint cars are great,I remember in the late 70s going to the grove and seeing metal shavings everywhere,I asked what's up with that,man we drill out everything,weight,weight,weight man that's how ya win........or die.

[@donmathias1705]

What people do not pehaps understand is that the cage did its job. It provided structure for the car, it protected the driver and it absorbed a lot of energy and in doing so provided a lot of shock absorption for the driver. Does it need looking at? Sure but where do you stop. The biggest danger by far is an object like a nurf bar or front axle getting into the cockpit in a freak crash. I believe given how much racing, the speeds involved and the quality of design, materials and build quality the cars are probably as good as they can reasonably be. We don't want tanks, and we want cars that are agile.

[@Greg-nq4dj]

Thanks that was 9 minutes and 50 seconds I won't get back

[@LongLiveTheChaz]

😆

[@jessejames2546]

So fortunate to walk out of this one

[@dankdank9837]

Scary stuff.

[@deanlindsey8102]

Very well spoken ,YOu do a nice job .

[@jacksonrcaviation]

Well said my friend, be safe

[@keithgreen3527]

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

[@cupwalker24.7]

That Chassis Did its Job i Guess ...Mr. peck is still Alive to Race Another Day 💪🙏 .I would think You don't Want a chassis too strong.. Otherwise you will Never have a weak Link... Something to give a little ya know 🤔... the weak link will be the Human if the chassis never gives alittle .

[@tonycollins9598]

good content Chaz

[@MrBigun624]

Good video Chaz !!!!

[@tylerbrooks6191]

Glad he was ok!!! When we wrecked at Knoxville we crashed so hard we cracked all the top welds above the cockpit and down tubes so deff can happen... Blunt force will always cripple tubing..... it's steel not concrete 💯

[@davidburchfield2720]

Amen brother you are absolutely right the perfect storm anything can and will happen 🙏

[@davidblantz]

I was there. The car hit an opening in the track fencing ripping the wing off. The car turned on it's side with the roll cage exposed to oncoming cars and appeared one or perhaps several cars hit the front downtube with a wheel or frame and pulled the cage off on both front down tubes to back behind the driver. Justin and all of us who love this sport- I'm a Modified guy who enjoys Sprints too- were absolutely blessed that he walked away from that wreck uninjured. A litte different angle or any of a million scenarios we'd be talking about a tragedy but thank God we're not. BTW - At 10k for the headliner Sprint division, and only $4,000 to win in Modifieds, that's probably why many modified teams didn't participate, not enough money to attract cars or the bigger names in that division to take on the expense required to race.

[@raymond3803]

If sprints pay 10K. What amount, in your opinion, would be equitable for the support class modifieds to win?

[@davidblantz]

@@raymond3803 $7000 to win and a nice breakdown from there for second on back. What ended up happening is guys who run Big Diamond on Fridays stayed with that and never ventured out, same with Grandview and most New Egypt racers stayed with their regular schedule. Tires were not the issue except maybe compound as American Racer tires with any track stamp were allowed. It just came down to if it was worth it with that purse structure. The Modifieds are far from a support division at Bridgeport and the complete Northeast. It should have been considered a Twin Bill and paid accordingly with the ASCOC touring division as the featured class.

[@Screwloosejr00]

Something too we don’t think about sprint cars rust from the inside out, because of the moisture build up. But thank god Justin’s ok

[@jeffomspaugh6691]

Dub May had a cage come off of the car at Manzanita Speedway in Phoenix in the 80s. Nance house car I believe.

[@SamWilliams78]

Ive been following Justin since quarter midgets and we are lucky to still have him with us. I agree with what you are saying. That was worst case scenario and the chassis took several hits back to back. I imagine once one bar fails the whole thing starts to come apart pretty quick with subsequent hits. I think the biggest damage must have come from backing into a pole with the whole damn wing through that hole in the fence. Thats a crazy hit.

[@Noscrap909]

And know one will know what happened. Guarding the integrity of the chassis builder is more important. I can guarantee there will be no qualified engineers to assess the failure of this frame.

[@1959cadillacdan]

As you said mate, that car took a lot of wild hits and I don’t think any chassis would have held up any better. It was just one of those wrecks.

[@LongLiveTheChaz]

Thx

[@unclebones2488]

nasty couple hits, only question I have where the tubing came from

[@davidvanbrunt4233]

God was watching over JP that night.....that was scary to watch !😮

[@wrayvon121]

If they were Triple X cars they would blame cheap tubing.

[@russellcurrie6099]

An x brace in the top of the cage would be nice

[@janetbarker1216]

Hi Chaz, you are a busy guy alway watch your show 5/26/23

[@DirtInMyBeer94]

Just saw the highlight, hell of a nasty wreck. Glad he climbed outta that thing man.

[@glennmitchell9124]

As far as I can see the car did it's job perfectly as he walked away from horrific g forces and impacts, the car was never designed to impact a pole directly into the center of the roll cage, don't have places on a racetrack that the car can be put in that situation, in 2001 I went to Florida with an outlaw team and was horrified that the old outer gaurd rail posts were still hanging out of the ground and we were racing there,

[@anthonymcdaniel592]

I have built sprint cars for many years and the odds are any car in that situation would be missing some important pieces. We use metal lax weld conditioning and stress reliever because it works .Avenger always does due diligence o provide a good car I have driven my nephew drives it’s not just a job to us ultimately it’s in God’s hands.

[@raymond3803]

Other than old man Danny Young, who the hell ever went fast in an Avenger? I drove for a team that bought a brand-new Avenger. Strange car. Unpredictable. Inconsistent. It won a few, but I hated it. In my experience, J&J was the narrowest. The slightest little adjustment. A J&J would react. You could feel it on the track. Trostle & Schnee had the same philosophy. No 2 of them were the same. Nance was easiest to drive. Top & bottom frame rails were not parallel. Engine and motor plate tilted toward the back. First car to be built in halves.

[@anthonymcdaniel592]

@@raymond3803 Tim Crawley Danny Wood Donny Krietz Scott Purcell Brooke Tatnel Robbie Farr Tony Jones Adam Mitchell to name a few.There was many times when a team wanted something off the wall and we did it it obviously wasn’t good for everyone even though we tried to tell them . Just curious how many championships did you prevail in the other cars? How many main events?

[@raymond3803]

@@anthonymcdaniel592 Shit! I meant Danny Wood. Saw him win an outlaw race at Eagle Raceway in an Avenger. 31 Main events. 1 track championship. 8 - 9 seasons. 30-35 shows/season. Better than average, but nothing to brag about. You asked. I raced sporadically. Two seasons on. Two or three seasons off. My longest absence was 7 years. Came back following a divorce. Got a shot to drive for a bunch of guys who went to school together. They had a Challenger with a 410 in it. First race was a 4th of July show. Best competition there was Donnie Beechler. We won it. First race after 7 years. Most notable change in that 7-year span. Aluminum blocks. Cars could easily do wheelies. That was new to me. I drove a Roger Beck, Nance, Challenger (Not a Stanton Challenger) Avenger, Trostle, Schnee (down and non-down tube) Tognotti, Maxum, Gambler, J&J, Don Maxwell (one straight, one offset to the left) and a John Singer chassis that had torsion tubes that were not parallel (weird). Never owned a car. Had to adapt to whatever. I wish I could have drove an A.R.T. chassis. They looked good to me. Never got a chance to. They weren't that plentiful.

[@anthonymcdaniel592]

Good wheelman you bet I asked because since then we have done finite element analysis and we learned . The single raised rail cars at first didn’t do what we wanted either Ricky Hood helped on that . We listened listened we stay with what we know to be a repeatable car went from over 70 designs to 3 . It helps that my nephew and niece and my son’s girlfriend are mechanical engineers. I appreciate your feedback because it means your heard we did something about it.

[@Stick002]

Car hit the back of the frame off an opening In the fence. Most of the hits from the other cars were on the cockpits area aswell. The whole rear of the A-Frame moved forward on impact, which would have buckled the bars above his head. It must have had enough stress on them it just broke off completely on both sides. More I could talk about with bars pulled apart on the frame, but haven't looked into it past what I have just mentioned.

[@howardwest2707]

I think once they look at the chassis they will have a better idea of why. I can imagine taking the hit on the fence then spun back into oncoming traffic only to get hit again can't be good. Watched a whole front clip including motor ripped off in a similar incident at Tulare with Allard. If the chassis did impact sone sort of cemented in 3 inch thick hand railing initially as some have reported the fact it held together as well as it did is a testament to the quality of builder. Mind you they said railing and i am assuming its size and fixture base. Then taking more hits by oncoming traffic is going to cause some serious damage. Thankfully everyone involved is okay and hopefully people wont jump to conclusions to lay blame until we have a better idea as to what occurred.

[@Huntbeck33]

Big reason why I didn’t attend the event last night is solely because Bridgeport is so bad leaving the track. I was at the outlaw race last year and the race was fantastic had such a blast in till it took me 2 hours just to get out the parking lot and had another 50 minutes to get home then have to get up for work at 4:30 am. Also Bridgeport did a horrible job promoting the race the social media person is non existent and it did get pretty cold last night for this time of the year. Love the track tho the racing is great I’ll be at the high limit race later in the year that’s for sure

[@davidblantz]

Got out of there in less than 10 minutes after the last race, the Modified feature. Piece of cake.

[@richgerber3524]

RPM / Russ is the best

[@dwaynemathias3834]

Be interesting to know what the tubing size was. I don't doubt that RPM builds a good car but quality of all kinds of products these days is low, so has the quality of chrome moly been compromised?

[@manga12]

as for the recognition and noteriety you speak of yes sprints are the highest power to weight ratio cars there are, and little in the way to keep them safe in impact they are also somewhat top heavy, its very dangerous, and underpaid compaired to late model even and some of them are just as good if not better drivers then those that run even higher up ones, they have to drive instinctive on dirt and it changes every lap, they pass often in very narrow margins, and they do it many times a week those that do regional or touring races vs ones that race one day a week or go weeks without a race even if they are testing they aren't racing as much in say indycar or f1, nascar like they are in the outlaws, allstars, arca or usac to name a few and the tracks often are older and dont have the fancy safety upgrades all the time though some do as they also run big events. like say eldora, irp, or kokomo and paris auto or knoxvill. what they do is right on the edge of crazy and have little around them, and even a rut in the track can put them hard into the wall and take them out like it did justin owens rest his soul, and he was the track champion in wingless sprints at the burg too it might not be as crazy as when they ran open top non roll cage roadsters and hand brakes like the sprints in the hey day of usac in the time of foyt andretti and the bentenhousens but its still very perilous and they should be praised for bravery and when they do it well and not have to resort to being too reckless. they deserve honor more then many national and international race series I would say running more power in their engines on a more slippery surface and less protection, and more passing.

[@brycebarber3358]

China tubing or USA tubing?

[@raymond3803]

Do you see any XXX Chassis ripped apart? Does that answer your question?

[@brycebarber3358]

@@raymond3803 no I see rpm but it makes me wonder where there they get there tubing from.

[@raymond3803]

@@brycebarber3358 Half these teams are so weight & expense conscience, they don't bother to paint or powder coat their frames. Bare metal does rust. They obviously aren't too concerned about chassis strength integrity. Before there was a min. weight rule, Open Wheel Magazine exposed (with pictures to prove it) that Karl Kinser actually drilled holes in the metal parts of Steve Kinser's Simpson Safety Belts to save weight measured in grams, not ounces. Why not hire Haudenschild instead? That alone would save 100 pounds.

[@waynespyker5731]

Analysis should be conducted on the steel and welds with the results published, they will be within the specifications and tolerances. As a tool and die maker for 59 years working with specialty tool steels I think any other chassis would have had the same results being in the same circumstances. The best of steels and welding will yield or fail at some point. However is it time to improve the sprint car design? How about reducing the rear tire width (cheaper motors), adding an additional horizontal frame tube along each side starting at the A piller going externally rearward, sort of a modified configuration? Going to the next wall thickness or larger diameter tubing for the vertical cabin front and top halo framework? Tracks should remove suspect hazards.

[@dankdank9837]

It actually looks like the tubes pulled apart to me. Just from what I saw in the videos I can understand why people thought it was cut.

[@russellcurrie6099]

Junk the downtubes, go back to front and rear roll cage 9:16 hoops

[@sprintcarsandguitars959]

we raced gamblers in the 80s,non and downtube, i have to say are driver couldn't stand down tubes.

[@susanmcgalliard7885]

Well said but the tracks need to do there part , things have been said about Justin hitting a steel bar around the flag stand not sure how true this was

[@raymond3803]

These things can have far-reaching implications. In 2017, CJB had 18 wins in the WoO series. In 2018, David Gravel & CJB were poised to take over and win WoO Championship. But ................ (Dingle) Berry Jackson thought he could build a superior chassis on the side to what Maxum, J&J & Eagle Chassis construct full time. First race of the 2018 season @ Volusia, this crash happened --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIeodKGii9R6fpo This was the crash that eventually led to a mandatory rule change requiring all sprint car cages have two extra upright vertical supports. The cage of the Berry Jackson chassis collapsed so bad; they covered it with a tarp as if the driver had been killed. CJB only won 5 races in 2018. One race in 2019. CJB has never been the same and struggle to be competitive to this very day.

[@raymond3803]

Enough about Justin Peck. What about Justin Owens? Chaz self-promotes as the journalist who says what others are afraid to say. The truth that needs to be out there. Chaz analyses the chassis fail of Justin Peck & Conner Morrell. (Two uninjured drivers) But Chaz doesn't say shit (as if it never happened) about the death of Justin Owens last month. Why aren't these experts analyzing that crash? Unlike Jason Johnson, Justin Owens did not impact the concrete wall. The cage was intact. Car landed hard on its nose after the catch fence dissipated much of the speed and kinetic energy of the crash. *WHAT KILLED HIM?* Here's some truth that needs to be said. 1) The Earth is Flat 2) Dale Earnhardt Sr. wasn't strapped in. 3) Tony Stewart is guilty as sin.

[@TrevorSidell]

Your crazy in a good way my friend

[@TrevorSidell]

But I think the hit with the wall is what killed him I heard he died later at the hospital but was in really bad shape.

[@raymond3803]

@@TrevorSidell Crazy? How so? I can prove any of my list of 3. Take #2) It was reported a broken Simpson Safety Belt (Lap belt) claimed the life of NASCARs most iconic driver. Now 22 years later, a new set of red Simpson Safety Belts are the exact same identical thing as Earnhardt had that day. No modifications or refinement necessary. Lap belt broke? MY ASS! The belt submitted as evidence looked like it had been a pit bull kennel chew toy for 10 years.

[@rogerrueter3079]

Glad to see Justin is okay I watch the video in slow motion seems to me there was cockpit intrusion