Anti-Cheat for Multiplayer Games

[@dinou1337]

I searched for: "Worst anti-cheat" and this was the first result, nice.

[@Timely7]

well at least you haven't experienced hackers, toxic hackers, in games like *cough* *cough* Friday the 13th. Tbh dead or not easy anti-cheat doesn't work Ive encountered mutiable hackers on there and so if they can get through it on that game I'm sure they will do it for many others as well.

[@dinou1337]

@@Timely7 Toxic hackers are everywhere in wingman. I haven't played Friday The 13th so, it's more likely that there are more cheaters in that game. I mainly play GTA V and the modders are pretty annoying. Counter Strike games are great and all, but the toxic people ruin it, if there isn't a toxic player in the match, then there is a cheater. A few months ago I played krunker.io and I only joined the game in the "Hacker wave" where there were about 3-4 hackers every lobby and nobody cared about them, you got accusated for cheating and get toxic people saying that you should die of cancer you fucking dipshit and things like that. Valve has a decent anti cheat in my opinion, but it's still not perfect.

[@morso9080]

@@Nafrayu literally the best anticheat out there, sorry you got banned for cheating 😆

[@traagicjunior4183]

All anticheats are shit i am a bypasser i have hacked many games and have even sold chetas and even hacked in fortnite pc and even mobile version my own cheats anticheat bypassed no ban even won 700$ in total from fortnite tournament with chetas

[@mscapeh4451]

@@traagicjunior4183 Nothing to brag about also that dont make you a topgamer or pro it makes you a coward who use cheats and hacks instead of own skills.

[@niCO_Beo]

Give this man a glass of Water please..... Jesus...

[@TheFiendRacer]

Der Beo hahah serious

[@FrostyGorillaYT]

Most programmers aren't good at public speaking .

[@shadyplaysgoodgames]

Hahahahaha

[@serpathius]

Do you think the cheats that include the snake game also include cheats for the snake game?

[@Sparkette]

I couldn't tell what he was saying at 13:47, so I turned on the captions. Somehow the human-transcribed captions didn't get that line right, but the automated ones did.

[@Vykori]

wow, it's surprising how much people have thought of this very spesific aspect of games. it seemed especially surprising when they were categorizing the typical cheaters/hackers. I guess I shouldn't be so surprised since it's literally their job but... idk I like these 2 people now

[@asphantix]

whenever you research things scientifically you categorize things :)

[@robsteri]

They are both good friends of mine, and i can tell you they are really passionate about this. Aarni managed to grow his anticheating software hobby at his parents place into a company employing several people and being one of the leading anticheat providers in the world. Respect!

[@FeverReaver]

It's always nice to hear people talk about things that they like.

[@sean8102]

Cheats are a crazy large market. Specifically I mean cheats for online games / modes. Not cheating in single player games/modes. There are actually sites where people pay real money for cheats to online games/modes. Usually they pay a monthly fee to keep getting updated cheats as the devs fix the exploits used. The prices can be crazy ($25-$50 a month or more). Some of these cheat devs even require extensive application processes from people before they will start selling them cheats because they are worried about developers buying their cheats to reverse engineer them. Bottom line cheats for online games is a multi million dollar industry. And its a legit problem because it can destroy a games popularity. I completely quit playing Rust with a friend of mine despite having a blast for quite a while because eventually we just kept running into cheaters that used aimbots so they could headshot you the second you were not behind cover. Made it impossible to play. They even talked shit while blowing apart our house we busted our house building. So we just destroyed everything and never touched the game again.

[@Sam-fp8zm]

@@sean8102 same with apex legends. its rife with cheaters.

[@DanMProductionsBois]

On the scene bois, lets clean it up.

[@BiscuitFever]

Dan M LET'S GO BOIS

[@apathypeace]

BOYZ!!!

[@skidz69]

Watch out I'm on the gear boys

[@apathypeace]

LAY SOME EGGS BOYS!

[@memu62]

boi

[@xiantong12315]

Let me tell a joke: VAC works

[@ApertureLabs]

Which is why Valve created VACnet, hopefully it comes into all valve games and casual modes. Currently it's just on CS:GO Comp.

[@resonance-cascade]

@@ApertureLabs Whats with Black Mesa?

[@thehills5834]

works only for free cheats not for paid ones

[@disres1337]

xiantong12315 well it works better than eac

[@JustCallMeGreg0]

@@disres1337 fake

[@sneakykd2950]

it feels like these two guys are talking about things we already know and it also feels like it's just copy and pasted it and modified it and put it on a PowerPoint

[@bryngillings8941]

how much money does valve make from cheating, a lot.

[@highwayblowout]

I remember making scripts for various online mmo's like 10 years ago, scripts, tables etc could be sold for several bucks. Literally a gold mine for a teenager. Although glad i'm stopped with it, the scene i was with was cancerous af.

[@GoodNewsJim]

I coded macros for Asheron's Call 22 years ago, even used optical character recognition. The idea I discussed with the developers was that if anything in the game could be automated by repeated button presses without having to do anything, it wasn't a game to begin with. This was the dawning of MMOS, and the developers agreed with me for years. If a place you can just stand and get exp/gold not having to react, fix it by changing the game play... But then they got lazy and stopped trying. All they'd have had to do was add a diminishing returns of experience for staying in same place too long, killing the same monster over and over, or like even have unpredictable enemies spawn occasionally... The real loss from macro scripting I found was, the devs didn't take it as proper feedback for their MMORPGS. If they would have been committed to making mmorpgs as a "VIDEO GAME" and not some sort of casual chill out thing, we'd be in a better place as far as MMOS go. Check out my coming MMO: Starfighter General.

[@Dan20q]

EAC has become SOOO bad, it cannot even handle when your ISP force-changes your public IP-adress, any EAC-powered game then needs a FULL restart for EAC to work again! xD Ridiculous!!!

[@fudgeyaw4085]

26:59 Kim Jong-Un banned?! :o

[@TheDeadNorth]

Well then shit, I guess my wife just had an 'unfair advantage' over me then.. I somehow feel less bad about it now.

[@Mo_1042]

41:45 with captions on: [man in plant shirt] "okay cool, thank you"

[@Leetpwnedsrs]

>anti-cheat for multiplayer games >>>>VALVE HASN'T EVEN IMPLEMENTED VAC INTO LINUX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LOGIC

[@gabrielhuber106]

Has it actually been a problem? Less cheaters with more technical experience means tiny reward for high effort, that's probably why they don't do it.

[@Filmer1eX]

+Gabriel Huber Oh yes. github.com/McSwaggens/AimTux + Linux dualboot = free undetected and safe cheats

[@gabrielhuber106]

Sure they exist, but are they actually a problem in the scene?

[@_zproxy]

kernel modules for a game. yikes

[@ChristopherGray00]

i mean what else can you do, at least eac gives a shit while valve sits on their ass doing almost nothing but detecting free hacks

[@psycho13G]

I hope EA/DICE see this, and replace useless FairFight in Battlefield games (especially V), with EAC+BattlEye.

[@unk6822]

Oink Boink They wont, forget it. If they want so, they would’ve done it before. They rather use their own stupid anticheating methods. Also BE/EAC aren’t cheap and they probably just wanna keep the money and don’t really care about players experience.

[@rashid1664]

@@unk6822 Guess who's wrong buddy.

[@wowimoldaf]

Fun facts are 1. EAC team is much better than VAC team. 2.There is actually RAT cheats confirmed by EAC lol(34:00)

[@christophers.torrestorres7875]

But in Vrchat it is not like those games that come out in the Anty Cheat

[@Salicath1]

2:58 The guy playing is called Malthe er bøsse which translated from Danish to English is Malthe is gay. Fun fact: My name is actually Malthe LOL

[@Lenny_____]

ok

[@Sim0thy]

But are you gay?

[@Four-wn4os]

and u r gay

[@z0rden_]

This video hits different nowadays

[@cra0kalo]

unknowncheats leading the game hacking scene since 2000

[@rabbitjumper4602]

+1

[@rabbitjumper4602]

+Le WIs mpgh is gay external shit

[@Tyler-rp5xl]

That might be because you're just looking for a free cheat while unknowcheats is all about coding and getting help coding cheats..... so fuck off skid

[@rabbitjumper4602]

Mast3r Race ok noob

[@BButcher12]

ASHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH you mean MPGAYHACKS? yea every uploaded cheat is checked with automatic tool which nobody can bypass and every topic is filled with useless skids begging for cheats, unknowncheats is for people who actually wanna learn coding and half cheats on MPGH are leaked from UC boi

[@lockcmpxchg8beax673]

"hey we are not a rootkit" -> continues to explain how their rootkit works in detail.

[@bryngillings8941]

also he forgot one of the most important profiles, competitive cheaters. cheaters who you can't even tell are cheating, who take it very seriously to move up in the ranks. The worst kind.

[@MrDrury27]

Those are Achievers

[@DanMProductionsBois]

He did discuss those. Achievers. Flusha, and all the other pro cs cheaters.

[@18iser]

ayyyy put your tin foil hat on boissssss

[@AlexSmith005]

Dan M lmfao

[@CharIie83]

also, its really sad to see programming get discredited by people like this. getting people to try something you've made is really really hard, and people thinking "hacking" is a viable hobby, help make it harder for honest people to reach an audience.

[@alexpsp00]

how do you bypass EAC? Use a driver.

[@alka-holic]

Exactly.Read from kernel level or even in, in EAC's case, replace their handle stripping callbacks with your own and let your usermode application to gain handle access. (blocking all other PIDs from gaining handle access will potentially bypass a heartbeat which I don't even think EAC has yet.

[@dylanmcphee9206]

How can you disable this?

[@ryankott7620]

Say what you want but EAC has done a good job as of lately on Rust. I don't believe any other anti cheat would be able to combat the hacks rust has/had.

[@crushay2755]

It's actually rather shit, if you know how much info they have on your pc you'd understand

[@op-cq7hw]

"EAC has done a good job as of lately on Rust" LMFAO

[@Rang15]

i got banned, And i didnt even do anything

[@LordOfNihil]

false positives suck. ive quit entire franchises because of false bans.

[@XScopeFullHD]

Rallienglanti

[@fire2box]

8:41 sorta did this in GTA Online, din''t go god mode, explode other players at random. But I sure did drop a shit ton of money for me, friends and like 3 dozen randoms. Got temp banned but my friends kept all their money from it. I never dream of cheating in a VAC game. Having that badge of shame on your profile would be bad enough.

[@ibiixie]

Meanwhile I got banned for 30 years because someone dropped moneybags on my face. lol

[@ThatAngeloGuy]

is this why there's been a banwave in ds3?

[@JonathanBoring]

What is the name of the intro song?????

[@Artonkn]

Thats one wet mouth

[@JiyakuBuraku]

Artonkn I'd say it's dry lol

[@Diszle96]

cant unhear :(

[@stevenclark3540]

moist

[@eugenegoltsos677]

when I try to play paladins it says: please close pchunter64 before starting the game I HAVENT INSTALLED ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND EVEN IF I HAVE ACCIDENTALLY, ITS NOT OPEN CAN SOMEBODY HELP?

[@iankurt9863]

x1.25 if you don't want to fall asleep

[@itsnic699]

Say goodbye to all the mods i downloaded for Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2

[@WolfLeader1994]

anyone know the song at the start of this

[@potkor]

more ppl cheating = more new accounts = more money for steam = revenue/profit

[@MrAston66]

Can you use ai to enhance the anticheat

[@jewlzpwns101]

It's nice to see they have a anti cheat company but we all know what happened with punk buster. With kernel mode hacks there they are fighting an uphill battle. However the only solution that is possible is perhaps a custom gaming OS probably Linux based were all studios will use as a platform instead of windows.

[@zimizi]

good luck switching the whole gaming industry on a custom made OS

[@micycle8778]

virtualbox says hi

[@EZraeel933]

Why would they prevent cheating from csgo when people keep buying the game again lol

[@kievelson]

Yeah can’t do a single thing broke steam for me

[@darkr4v3r]

Really good presentation. Thanks for that information!

[@GitGudLT]

VAC - valve allows cheats

[@mollyprice3568]

BILLY MADDISON AT 27 LOL. VERY Accurate description of cheaters. LOL!

[@passivlyassertive9696]

Lowkey the best anti-cheat I've ever come across, undetected cheats for games that use easy anti-cheat usually go atleast 100 dollars a month

[@LBZDreamer]

battleye is better

[@passivlyassertive9696]

@@LBZDreamer lmao, when I used to cheat on pubg (not proud of it), I lasted for over 500 hours or more (and I'm willing to bet I got manual banned by a dev). EAC is far superior in terms of collecting memory traces from suspected cheaters and implementing that info into detecting cheats.

[@LBZDreamer]

I know you're not a bad person and the word "once a cheater always a cheater" isn't always true. I've never cheated on a game that has eac or be so I can't give my honest opinion. But yeah cheating becomes old and really boring. I usually like to cheat games that run on unity since you can always find a assembly c-sharp.dll and can be undetected until a game update. PS also good way to learn how the code works in that specific game.

[@passivlyassertive9696]

@@LBZDreamer Yep it is, and I appreciate you not giving me shit about it :) I used to actually help devs code cheats to then sell and get a small portion of the profit. I didn't usually write function hooks or work on features that much, I usually helped write the drivers, figure out detection vectors and ways to bypass the anti-cheat. The "thrill" in it besides the small amount of money I made was the fact that I was finessing the system. I worked on some fortnite cheats as well and man, EAC has a way of patching cheat drivers and bypass methods very quickly it just wasn't something I could keep up with full time. That's why legit undetected cheats for games protected by EAC are usually very pricey and private. Battleeye is also a very good anti-cheat but EAC is definitely better.

[@LBZDreamer]

Indeed the thrill in it is finessing the system. I found it fun cheating in Mobile multiplayer games using game guardian. I would always take people's values and put it into a lua script instead of always having to write into the memory. But one thing I've taught myself is learn even if it takes months. Little bit off topic but I just love talking about this stuff.😀

[@Unkn0wnAssass1n]

i cant get easyanti cheat anywhere 1 star

[@TripDov3r]

How do you feel about reviews that are SMASHING FOR HONOR due to EAC putting up thousands of False positives and not allowing people to play?

[@josephclark4497]

yet i get false banned for having a roblox fps unlocker open lol

[@elonmusk7478]

That sucks

[@josephclark4497]

@Yusri Yusope It doesn't modify the memory since it attaches to ROBLOX games not Rust lol

[@josephclark4497]

@Yusri Yusope dude rust has unlocked fps anyway so why the fuck would i need to run it anyway lol besides the point roblox have came out and said that the 3rd party unlocker will no longer cause a ban. this 1. does in noway shape of form even do anything to the rust client and 2. of all is even ALLOWED by the game it is intended for.

[@megafoo3943]

Work with android?

[@Azius_]

i would kms if i was there... its like a secondary school presentation

[@hiimathao]

Stopping cheating for them is like creating a cure. Just fix it enough to have a job but not enough to stop having customers. No cheaters mean no anti cheats. Both live in the same communities.

[@gamerhour5181]

you could help Garena Free Fire with the anti-cheat we and Garena would be very grateful I have a channel and I could talk about you

[@shagadelic3000]

2018... still waiting.

[@jirisafar5706]

2021... still waiting !

[@InfuzedPH]

all old games die because of cheaters

[@Shiraumere]

So when are you plebs actually going to do something in the CSGO department? Cus I haven't noticed shit in about 4 years.

[@ChristopherGray00]

VAC most likely won't improve. Valve is making shit-tons from cheaters re-buying the game. You're better off just getting ESEA or FACEIT, their client anticheats are actually decent.

[@sean8102]

Valve dose not use "Easy Anti-Cheat" so these guys are not responsible for CSGO.

[@ZeHomieKnight]

Unsubbed, thanks for raping my sub box

[@Fighter___]

not sure why you even subbed in the first place

[@ZeHomieKnight]

Me neither, what the fuck is/was this channel

[@garykuehn8403]

hope you implement a software that can be background uploaded during an update to eliminate the cheaters software

[@Lak3]

Rautava can't code

[@DolanDuking]

jesus, my sub box

[@gavin528]

ikr

[@sisterSyzygy]

a good avatar.

[@sisterSyzygy]

Atrociouz help! I've been owned on the Internet!

[@gavin528]

Dolan Duk Nigga look at your avatar.

[@DolanDuking]

Gavin no

[@HundzilleDeveloper]

Don't use easy anti cheat, there are errors in it

[@Dan20q]

Yes, more and more. Ridiculous that they get away with it... ;(

[@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage]

Say goodbye to to legitimate MSI Afterburner and FRAPS overlays and chat programs...

[@sean8102]

? I haven't had EAC cause any issues with Afterburner or anything like that. Hell I've even used trainers in single player mode with games that have Easy Anti Cheat like Far Cry 5 and Watch Dogs 2 with no problems at all.

[@debanizgames0013]

just kick ban those people depending or his Kill/death ratio and timeplay, easy as that, if you see someone killing 100 and 0 deaths, well that for sure is using wallhack and aimbot, is so hard to do?? i dont think so, is not "natural" not even a skilled profesional can stay most of the games whit same record

[@ThatJadon_26]

they litterally talked about finding cheats by player satistics

[@robertadrianwayne]

FIX YOUR SHITTY GAMES VALVE, FIX CSGO FFS. I've invested more than 14 years in CS, so I FUCKING HAVE THE RIGHT TO PLAY AND HAVE FUN LIKE I USED TO, FIX YOUR GAME!

[@t_x4x]

Fix it pls it sucks people won’t quit hacking on csgo

[@professorpennies]

you went the wrong way

[@hahafunny8111]

now every thirteen year old can bypass eac

[@hakker-pq1rn]

hahaha I have seen cheters getting away with it and players without cheating being banned. Dont beleave this BS

[@alexrusu6417]

I had a steam account with dota 2 , because i had to buy dota 2 in 2012 . trying to hide from my friends , in a very low level league with them in 1.6 , some regional cup , from a local company! Gues what happend in 2015 , i got a trade ban , i never ever ever never trade anything. I dint mater , if i whas not trading , i just play dota 2 , with my 5 k mmr , all good. 1 week later i got a vac ban! So here i m with only dota 2 game on acc with trade/vac ban. Never trading shit. My main acc has 60 games on it , 1 month ago i got an popup , telling me that i have to spend 30$.\ on games on steam , in order to have acces again to trading . You see what are they doing here right? The acc baned can still play dota 2 , is not baned from the game , so wtf is going on?!?!?

[@izafas]

i love when a game doesnt have EAC because then i just get to fuck it over

[@lordsamich755]

Just use SHA512 to verify game assets before they load. Steam could be tasked with the responsibility of sending SHA512 hashes of all executable and data files to the relevant server, without revealing the content of any given file. It would then be trivial for that steam client to then only load files with trusted hash values. The only way I can see people getting around this would be to have a totally false steam client, reporting it's own spoofed SHA512 from a known value. In which case just change the SHA512 value with a random salt, for each file, on each load.

[@idealsoftware8058]

That’s not how that works

[@lordsamich755]

@@idealsoftware8058 So there's specific parameters for each asset which vary through the game?

[@muffininacup4060]

Seconding the fact that this is not how it works; first of all, game files arent only loaded, but they are changed too. You can load a perfectly legit copy of the game but during the gameplay itself variables and such will change, because the game changes them. The positions of the players, damage, etc is all variables that change. So, you can have another program (cheat) find the memory the game uses and modify it too. Then you need an anticheat to sit there and scan your ram 24/7 for unauthorized changes or straight up know what are the apps that are running, to know if there is a cheat or smt. Then you can have cheats that look at the screen, instead of the memory, and modify inputs instead of the memory, or overlay something over the game, like discord overlay does, so you are not modifying what the game does, merely showing 'outside' the game what the game is doing. Then you can have controller side cheats or cheats outside pc completely, which are impossible to counter - a camera with an ai that recognises and processes everything to then move the mouse or press keys with motorized servos, as if it was a human, this is completely undetectable and impossible to solve.

[@watchdogsarnia1948]

I got a anti cheat fix, make it player based, must scan ID must verify id must verify phone and if banned no new account made on any steam game,

[@jantje1554]

Okay..... Let me just quickly scan my fake ID, Google: "temporary phone number", and let me just get a whole different Steam account.. nice try but nah.

[@sean8102]

Lol yea people are totally willing to do that crap for a video game.

[@Tostaki92]

3 teams still 2019 no insta vac bans

[@lebensgesetze]

cheating isnt hacking and programming a cheat or injector does not make you a hacker, but a programmer.

[@severinbrunner60]

What makes you a hacker then?

[@lebensgesetze]

Heiner its not hacking

[@lebensgesetze]

Menalix u wish it was hahahahhaha copy paste kid

[@---zm5sx]

Cheaters who download cheating programs are script kiddies.

[@milosgrujic9118]

Activision likes this video.

[@CharIie83]

why not just make all relevant information obfuscated in memory? and make the packets change, some dummy header or something. it seems very odd that you cant hide the information from cheating developers

[@muffininacup4060]

'just'. 'just' is a powerful word, you are saying this like its easy. You cant obfuscate data in ram that easily. Its not code that you can make visually and logically dense to confuse people/machines. First of all, in ram its all data in use by the system and ready to go, its not ready to go if its obfuscated. Even if you do obfuscate it, it'll have to be de-obfuscated for the processor at some point, which will cost you performance at least, if you are callinga decoder every single use of game's assets. Then, there are other issues, but this comment is getting long anyway

[@CharIie83]

​@@muffininacup4060 I'm sure its doable, there are other ways to cheat too I think, not just aim hacks

[@muffininacup4060]

@@CharIie83 I mean, anything is doable, its a question of it making sense. My point was that obfuscating data in RAM is really hard and kinda pointless

[@CharIie83]

@@muffininacup4060 if it guarantees a fair fight, I think its something a serious dev should take into consideration

[@muffininacup4060]

@@CharIie83 I doubt that they didn't consider it; they are paid professionals and resesrchers doing it every working day. If its not implemented, there is a reason for it. Be it a significant decrease in performance due to deobfuscation/decrypting, or straight up the fact that your obfuscation can be figured out so ot will become useless soon enough, or any other reason not to do it

[@techzone2009]

It is better than kernel level anti cheat software, which is killing privacy.

[@corazon8456]

Easy 2 bypass that is

[@НикитаБлеснов]

Exact Audio Copy, my brain.... 8-((

[@scarph7681]

WHERE IS TF2

[@TrueTurbi]

FINNISH DEVELOPERS. I KNEW THEY'RE FROM THE GOOD END ON MAKING ANTI CHEATS.

[@xxbr0txxx529]

Lumi* EAC is not better than esea anti cheat.

[@TrueTurbi]

xxbr0txx x Better than VAC. Huehuehue

[@xxbr0txxx529]

Lumi* not 100% true

[@mr.collins357]

do not ever use EAC if you do it will be much more. they have to be the WORST anticheat company. i trully hope the fold over at the FTC fine them

[@conradofmf]

Vac valve allow cheats Me: playing 5 matches in a row with full team spinners Also me: banned from one random steam game for using elypse

[@ekknod]

anti openprocess/screenshots are not enough ! also eac not fixing "exploits" even they're public !

[@Xerpadon]

It is sad and yet funny that they still think "server side is safe". Packet editing is very hard to do even for programmers but its a method that is pretty much undetectable. as example you sniff out a certain line of packets and pretty much copy paste it and send it directly to the server... the server will think you are doing the same thing over and over again and just accepts it so killing a mob will grant EXP for example you just copy the moment you kill the mob and send it to the server and it will in return just grant infinite amount of exp. and with packet editing also comes with its own exploitable terrain.

[@TheFourzee]

why the mob killing doesn't require a nonce? sounds like Ajay backend coding again

[@gveronjj755]

Wtf are you talking about? This comments section is full of people dreaming lol.

[@muffininacup4060]

I like how you say that server-side isnt safe, and then proceed to explain why client-side isnt safe What you are describing is still client side. *You* are sending a packet and the server for some reason accepts it as truth. You as a client are sending false info, its no different if its sent via edited packets or any other bs magic, if you are sending data, its still client side. Server-side is safe, because the server doesnt trust the client. You can send 'I killed a mob, gimme xp' but the server will check that and say 'no, that mob died 5 minutes ago, no way you killed it' and just decline your request. Server, sitting in a datacentre somewhere, is a safe machine and if the game considers that everything that is going on on the server is always true (no cheats can be on the server because noone has access to the server bar devs). Things start going bad though, because everything cant be on the server - asking for permission and checking it to do anything causes lag, so some things are left behind on the client, and that people can futz with

[@Mr.Mecanik]

There are so many things to say, I don't even know where to start. Just look at this minute... kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnqah2lmp5x9mdE and everything will be clear. These kids, because they are kids in anti cheat development, talk about "machine learning" and 14 people, yet... they did mistakes that not even the worst and most no-name anticheat would have ever done. This video is the PERFECT example on how to sell trash to public.

[@TheMegalusDoomslayer]

I guess it _does_ prevent cheating when it prevents people from playing the game at all... >.>

[@MrApplewine]

We need to figure out something totally puts an end to cheating. Or at least makes it at least as hard to cheat as on console, which I think is hard. I was thinking maybe a good way would be to make the games bootable and use some kind of MD5 checksum to verify the binary is not tampered with.

[@dale7326]

It actually not about how to anti cheat but more about how to develop a code that mess with cheater gameplay. For example games from FromSoftware, if you try to bypass the system, you better create your own games than trying to crack these titles because it will end up giving unknown error to the game because the game designed to unable to change the value data. There is a reason why these games can end up mess with players who don’t really cheating but still get some type of error because their system requirements for the game. Personally, I think it isn’t about cheating on a game but the way how people try to cheat because they want to feel “interactive” with the game. Pretty much those who make cheats often have some knowledge in order to do that. This is a every day life situation and this has been around for decades. Games usually come after technology development in which people are also copying each other to learn new stuff. There are some good reasons for why dlc in games are popular in order for fixing codes and problems from player perspective. Cheaters only amount of people just like developers. If you ask everyone to make their own codes for the game, hardly a single person can’t take that much time to crack the game, which usually take a month or 5 months to really fully crack the problem solving puzzle. As a bot, if you throw image, only human can read it. It’s like password that indie developers often use. For bigger projects, because there isn’t much amount of time while follow a deadline, developers need to throw in anything that got which can be incomplete or not enough to play through. That’s where updates needed. What cheaters using are modified the existed code which is the same with modders but that’s more about game designs in general. Modders change the designs which not many people really care compare to code cracking because of the gameplay advantages. In summary, both crackers and developers rarely consider a good explanation of what the game itself did and why either of them don’t pay attention to what they are doing or they have no reason to explain what they did. For majority who don’t know, people will look up and hating the game itself or others who involve in the process to recreate or create a content of a game. For sake of making money out of a game or any intellectual product is considered a bad practice in gaming industry. In my opinion, game services should not become a part of the physical trading market, including money from any form of creativity from human activities. This would be long story and thing to say about Arts and entertainment aspect as a whole. The starting blame would go back to how application work and people who think of making value out of something that can’t be measured by physical logic. Pretty much this would be enough for me to write a paper of how bad thing sjust come after bad things and people become a part of a cycle of mistakes and trial errors.

[@riskinhos]

this is stupid. THAT is exactly why gamers get pissed off. because not making promises or claims is a false acknowledgement or commitment and focusing on game content is fucking irrelevant. what gamers want is precisely to know what is happening what is going on to fix it and how it will and when. THAT is an acknowledgement or commitment. all the rest is pure bs that will piss off your clients and make them leave the game

[@JoaoVictor-tg4pv]

the community ant-cheat works better than VAC but VAC also still working better than nothing. cheaters allowing hackers to access their machines is comforting because they are letting thieves take control of their pc. who else came here to learn more about creating anti-cheats? o/

[@UninstallingWindows]

What if the game ran another anti cheat software parallel to the game, which then made print screens every n seconds and uploaded them to server backend for AI analysis. e.g grab whatever is on the gpu -> send to server. If any bounding boxes, silhouettes etc appear on the image...ban. If something interrupts the anti cheat software - kick( but not ban ) Even better -> whenever a player is suspected of cheating, group/matchmake them with other players with similar suspicions. Blocking a player means they will just come back with another account. Letting them play in a dedicated cheater server keeps them busy and away from others. Also, why cant multiplayer games use regular updates to encrypt/modify variable/pointer names. E.g a player launches the game -> a quick update is downloaded which will update game variables. When player connects to multiplayer, the variable names/hash information is also sent to the server. If a cheat program tries to access/modify game objects by name, they would not be able to find them or perhaps throw an error. If the game has been modified, the variable name hash would not match the expected hash for that day.

[@existency]

There will always be a place for a middleman so long as the implementation stays in software. Sure you can use some low level system APIs to grab pixels from the game window, but nothing stops the cheat from hooking said API to confuse what is actually happening. Anti- cheat could then search for such hooks, but the cheat can just find that searching code and disable it or render it non- functional. There is really no solve- all answer for this...

[@gveronjj755]

You are so wrong in many things my friend.

[@bafana_mhlamvu]

Here'a an idea, why don't Valve just buy ESEA?

[@sean8102]

Epic beat them to it.

[@GoodNewsJim]

These guys know their stuff. I came to see if I could learn anything, and 24 minutes in, I haven't heard anything I don't know yet.

[@GoodNewsJim]

Oh I did learn that counter hacking is known as anti-cheat for googling more videos. Love the steam guys.

[@joeyoung4309]

Easy anti cheat (EAC) has ruined my ability to play rust, i continue to get kicked from my rp server due to Disconnected: Integrity Error: Unknown file version (Bundles\Shared\Viewmodels.bundle) i have contacted the admins of the server about my issue and theyve said untill eac or rust devs fix it im simply stuck with this problem.

[@deadbydaylight6856]

Nice to see your face. Thanks.

[@nomecognome2182]

Perche esistete adesso non riesco ad entrare nel server di fortnite

[@pyrenos736]

Pls make cheating unpossible, fuck of privacy, fuck of anonymity. Make personal registration in steam with personal id

[@ThePixelPopper]

pretty sure i want to ban anyone who cheats

[@Robotainment]

Really interesting!