Anti Zionism is not antisemitism - Ilan Pappé

[@renegadetherapper]

I love what he said "Don't be intimidated so easily". This is the key to fighting back. Stop being intimidated by their attempts to shut down your voice

[@alfredkay3210]

Tell that to American coward politicians who are so afraid to lose their political careers.

[@reaper2579]

If Moses came back today he will end Zionism

[@tryhardnobouken465]

I hope he reads your comment.

[@rajashashankgutta4334]

Nope he would support zionism

[@yohanmeyr6392]

@@rajashashankgutta4334 Moshe Rabeinu NEVER entered The Holy Land ...He was a Strainger! How could he be a Zionist?

[@heyimgoingtoplaysomegames]

Ilan is such a beautiful, enlightened human. I love him for speaking out repeatedly about the distinction between the two.

[@MrsAi84]

We need more Ilan’s in this world !!

[@samielkhayri9272]

What an incredibly refreshing and heartening conference. God bless Ilan Pappe and all the principled Jews who stood up and denounced the atrocities committed by Israel against the defenseless Palestinian population.

[@Metalllians86]

thank you ilan for spreading the truth!!! keep up the fight!!! im so happy that even in the U.S the conversation is shifting....

[@Theouterrim77]

If one is for the dismantling of Israel because it is a Jewish state, that is anti-Semitic. Hamas are anti-Semitic. 50% of Palestinians voted them into power in 2006, will Ilan Pappe criticize that?! No, he wont because he's a biased, deluded hypocrite.

[@ashramrealestatellc7304]

@@nasimkarim5498 they never lived together peacefully , please don’t lie , let me give you four examples 1) Hebron 2) before 1948 Arabs didn’t want more Jews come from Europe as a refugee despite they knew anti semitism is growing in Europe, so England only accepted less than 100 k people so doesn’t make any conflict with Palestinians 3) mufti meeting with hitler 4) when UN divided the land Arabs started attacking Israel despite it was a decision of UN. Always remember there were 800 thousands Jews used to live in Arab countries who there were left for anti semitism, and always remember Zionism was made because of anti semitism, Jews and Muslims always had problems with each other. Some people think it started from Abraham. I myself grown up in iran and always discriminated cause I was Jewish . Even some teachers told other kids in school that I am a dirty Jew and Muslims shouldn’t get anything from my hand cause it is Harram. Even I didn’t accepted in one school cause I was only Jewish , imagine you can’t go to school in Europe or US because you are a Muslim. I have no doubt that if tomorrow all Jews in Israel become Muslims there will be peace . And I’m sure if Israel become powerless there will be another genocide by hamas at least , remember their goal is to kill all Jews . So if you like to see a person like me to die or discriminated and abused only because is Jewish be anti Zionist ….

[@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769]

Yeah! It's now impossible for a Jew to criticize the way leftists talk about Israel and be taken seriously. Thanks a lot assholes. Jews are literally being beaten in the streets and you don't care

[@steph7614]

What is really fascinating is the power of Isra3li lobby on Western media, freedom of speech and of the press, and foreign policy. If you were to watch even one single documentary or journalist interview about Gaza and/or the West Bank (Palestine) you will have many questions. If you look for answers to those questions you will have more, and it doesn’t take long before you realize that ignorance about Palestine is by design.

[@octipuscrime]

Israel is the other name of Jacob, father of the 12 tribes of Israel. Jews only descend from one of those 12 tribes (via Judah). Zionism believes Israel or Jews are defined by a place (Israel). But Israel is not a place but a people. That is why there are still Jewish folk today who reject the state of Israel.

[@Olivia-ge1oz]

Thank you.

[@ezzeldien5692]

This meeting should happen evert year

[@yohanmeyr6392]

WOW do u now how I now that he speaks the Truth ? Because he say not only the Name Jesus (what is forbitten among most Jewish Groups) but he say Jesus CHRIST ,God bless this Man !!!

[@vidamace6230]

Finally someone of great knowledge speaks the truth

[@masukomimedia]

This is a seminal issue and undermines capitalism, imperialism at its very legitimacy, it now goes further and makes the argument irrefutable that climate justice necessitates system change.

[@ramseypietronasser2]

Amazing student speaker 30:50 in, too

[@markjames8826]

Yes well spoken young lady

[@abigailsiobhanxx]

yeah isn't she great

[@anikamaba6928]

this guy is a genius

[@alfredkay3210]

I think the people of Britain have more freedom to speak bout these things than the people of America. America is gone, no freedom speech in America, when it comes to these issues.

[@chrisfloyd8512]

That's because America is under the complete control of the Zionist Party machine. Our entire banking system and judicial system is owned and run by the Zionist Party.

[@davidlonhol8016]

@@chrisfloyd8512 and of you say it out loud in public, you are called anti-semite whereas the truth is you are anti-zionist.

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

UK started this Balfour declaration!

[@lakestreet3951]

Sophia at 30.50 ... ! - whats her last name? Great speaker ...

[@ea4128]

antisemitism is big business how to terrorize others and keep them under pressure

[@RaquelLeães]

Eu tenho essa doença também, gente kkkk

[@samuuluinavucu1246]

Anti-Semitism or Anti-Zionism, the bottom line is, GOD told Abraham that HE will curse those who cursed him. And bless those who blessed him.

[@yohanmeyr6392]

Yeah but they Talmud replaced Avraham with Israel! But it is written: Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of YEHOVAH your God which I command you.

[@maketaco6683]

that's why atheism is the future

[@silentrev_7360]

Those are just Mythology books used for justifying political agendas and indoctrinating settlers, real history is something else

[@Glaiket]

Why do Swp instruct the police to kettle Palestinians?

[@q8ilove849]

I have every reason not to support the PLO because of the stance that they and Arafat took towards the existence of my homeland when it was invaded by Iraq in 1990, nor do I feel any hatred towards the people in Israel, some in fact, I consider family. But.... Truth must be said, I believe that the Palestinian people do have a just cause, and the foundation upon which Israel was formed was immoral since it was based upon lies and religious nonsense. How many generations has it been now? Is it realistic to have the grandchildren of the settlers leave for good? Well, what I would like to see is a state that recognises the right of the Palestinian people to all of the land and the crimes committed against them, since that it was absolutely NOT a land without people, and I completely understand where a lot of Israelis are coming from and how they feel about their country and all its impressive accomplishments. Sometimes it’s hard to see the things that are wrong with our countries from an internal point of view. Again, an Israel that acknowledges that is an Israel I know I would support.

[@NickyRikki]

As an Israeli citizen I am torn apart by what history has done. There is not enough we can give back to the Palestinians to make up for what was done and what is still being done. I wish one day we can live together and make Israel/Palestine the Singapore/Miami of the middle east. We can live freely together and share the most beautiful traditions of our cultures together. I'm a creation of this movement and now I don't know any place but Israel as home and I don't think I can ever go anywhere else it is my home but I don't want Palestinians to suffer at the expense of my living free here. I want to have the same rights and both benefit from all the amazing things both our nation's have contributed. I wish we could live side by side one day and borders and religion doesn't separate us any more.

[@q8ilove849]

Nicole Isaac That’s what I would like to see, a better United State of Israel and Palestine, and a free middle east. Free from both conflict and authoritarian regimes. I put my faith in the millennials to do the right thing and I hope they don’t disappoint.. A lot of love and respect from Kuwait

[@NickyRikki]

@Skrooge Lantay I think they have every right to hate. Israeli/Palestinians with Israeli passport are subject to racist laws . The Palestinians in the west bank are subject to military law not civil and Gaza is blocked off to the world like some human surplus compound. Walk a mile in someone shoes to understand the root of their hate comes from suffering at the hands of white racist who promised another white racist a brown mans land and then treated them like sub humans. You know when they first Zionist arrived to the land and started building kibbutzim communities the local population offered their lands to share and live together in prosperity little did they know the true intention of the Zionist and the the guest of house now wants to become the owner of the house and abused the local population hospitality to size up the lands before taking over and expelling the people for good..... I think Israeli's don't understand this hatred stems from colonialism and that Palestinians have every right to resist our version of history and narrative of the land. We came to them they didn't come to us.

[@NickyRikki]

@Skrooge Lantay also I am granddaughter of a Hagana Soldier. He told me what they did in 1947 in 6 months before may 15 1948. Specifically Huj.

[@q8ilove849]

@@NickyRikki I'm interested to hear what he told you

[@MeleanDialogue]

But that's obvious

[@Glaiket]

It’s a shame the Swp think so and kettle Palestine activists

[@Israelball]

Criticizing Israel is NOT Anti Zionism, Lying about Israel IS Anti Zionism, Anti Zionism is the right for the Jews to have a homeland, Being Anti Zionist is Anti Judaism. Now let me show the facts. The Israelíes had an ancient kingdom in the Roman era. Called Judea. The romans took the area over and named it, “Palestine” they named it Palestine because Judea had enemies in the north called the philistines. They came from Greece. The Romans named the land Palestine to taunt the Judeans by naming their land after an enemy. So the name Palestine has very little to do with the Arab Palestine today. Don’t tell me about those coins that have Palestine on it, those are roman coins. The name Palestine carried through the centuries, until Israel was founded. The moment Israel was born they fought in a civil war. They won without ANY outside help. The Jews just want a small sliver of land, and people are denouncing that land. Now, a part of my comment that shows the other side of the argument. I agree, the IDF, should be more careful about seeing who is bad and who is innocent. But at the same time, the IDF calls people in buildings telling them to get out when they bomb it, and move out of the way. If you do not listen and stand there purposely then you are not innocent. Now, all across Israel, rockets are being fired at major cities and farms. In July 2020 Palestine flew flammable balloons all across Israel so the crops catch on fire. We both know, that none of us will ever agree, but it’s good to see the other side of the argument. Thank you for your time.

[@silentrev_7360]

This is a lie, you're confusing mythology with real history but the bible isn't a history book. Palestine existed long before the Romans, they just named the region after the people living there for generations. The exile never happened, the reign never existed, Salomon didn't exist, Israeli archeologists and historians proved that, there never was a "nation-race" of jews, as it's never been an ethnicity but a religion. The only reason they chose the "holy land" is because they could have religious legitimacy to cover the real aim of creating a settler colonial messianic project. I know your world is falling apart, nobody believes these anti-historical orientalist myths, history, real history, speaks for itself

[@Daniel-rb9fe]

Israel is not an apartheid. If you call it an apartheid you don't really know what apartheid was. Everyone in Israel has equal rights. Just wake up, arabs and Jews and non-believers can vote whomever they want. Not like other arab countrie where there is no the difference of opinion. Go to Syria and enjoy the 'wealth' of civil war. Israel is a democratic state.

[@Daniel-rb9fe]

​@Shahjalal Khan Any argument? Because I cann't see one.

[@Daniel-rb9fe]

@Shahjalal Khan Name one thing I said that was racist. I believe that all races are equal. that's why I suppourt Israel.

[@foxygrandpa1633]

What do you think apartheid was like?

[@Daniel-rb9fe]

@@foxygrandpa1633 Holy shit. Forgot about this comment. Dude, since this I have changed my opinion massively. Definitely seeing racist ascpects in israeli political culture now. Dont know if apartheid is the correct word, since there is no fundamental separation among citizens of different races/religions, but what worries me is Israeli expandatory politics (which definitely carries racist messaging) and some Israeli policy regarding what could be basicaly called subventions to jewish culture (meant to strengthen the jewish character of Israel). Would still call Israel a democracy rather than apartheid, but an ethnic and illiberal one at that.

[@silentrev_7360]

​​@@Daniel-rb9fefirst of all, the 20% of Arabs (exactly what David Grün aka Ben Gurion wanted as maximum demography) living in Israel were 90% up until 1882, when the j population was less than 30k - and in any way seen the holy land in an ethno-nationalistic way - and the first settlers started to move and wanted to take over the land, especially after 1917, the you're another person saying "we got all the bread, you should be grateful for the crumble". But they don't only not have the same rights just because they recognised citizenships up until 1967, nor could constitute a majority in the parliament, but also have growing dehumanisation, discrimination and racism. The proper apartheid is in the brutally and viciously Occupied Territories. Have you ever read the amnesty international report or the UN ones and resolutions? Have you seen what the ICC and ICJ sentenced? Have you put in the clothes of a Palestinian person in the Occupied Territories, and see what they have to go through between the violence and the impunity of the settlers, the IOF? just try with honesty to do that experience. Every Israeli who tried to go behind those lies and prejudice understood what was and still is going on, getting worse and worse

[@tictoc5443]

I hope this means family never have to know how it is to be a jew in a foreign land I hope this means family are not slaughtered for being jews I hope this means family are not expelled from any country because they are jews

[@faithalonekjv5123]

tictoc544 stopped the lies. Jew is a religion, not a race.

[@tictoc5443]

@@faithalonekjv5123 what's your point?

[@tictoc5443]

@@faithalonekjv5123 whether they r a religion or race they are entitled to go about their business as are all religous and racial groups

[@beeline717171]

@@tictoc5443 Including Palestinians

[@beeline717171]

@@tictoc5443 And we hope Palestinians never again are expelled from their homeland as was in 48

[@GuyMeretz]

Wrong

[@thealligator918]

Anti-Zionism IS antisemitism.

[@banksarenotyourfriends]

Good argument. Can you explain what you mean? It doesn't make any sense.

[@thealligator918]

@@banksarenotyourfriends of course. yet please first define what is Zionism

[@thealligator918]

@@banksarenotyourfriends Zionism is the belief that Jews should live in the land of Israel and be there free men, not oppressed by any kind of foreign government, people or power. Zionism is the belief that the Holocaust should never happen again, and in order to do that Jews should Establish their own land and their own Army to be protected against foreign powers. Since there are no other Jewish countries you are basically taking the Jews rights for security if you take away Israel. Anti-Zionism is the belief that Jews should go back to Europe, Persia, North Africa and other parts of the Middle East, something that Ilhan Omar was also told. Do you think that when people told Ilhan Omar "go back to where you came from" was racist? If you do you will understand that Anti-Zionism is an anti-semitic racist concept. more to it, many anti-semites are drawn to Anti-Zionism. Why?

[@radlad6435]

​@@thealligator918 Cool story bro

[@thealligator918]

@@radlad6435 that Palestine, cool fairy tale.