Antigravity ReStart Lithium Ion Batteries Review

Antigravity ReStart Lithium Ion Batteries Review
www.revzilla.c...
A lithium battery that’s smart enough to prevent going flat? That’s the brilliance behind Antigravity’s new ReStart lithium ion batteries, which give you a second chance in the event of unwanted power drain. Antigravity’s proprietary circuitry cuts the power before the battery is depleted, saving your ride and your investment in a lithium-ion setup. Plus, you’ll shave weight and possibly space with the ReStart over lead-acid batteries.

[@tim595]

Thanks for a great video. BUT, I will post my personal experience with Antigravity batteries (with re-start) YTX12-12 model for my 2009 Fatboy (softail). Soon after the install, (one week later) the bike wouldn't start, I checked the battery, had plenty or juice (13.3v bike off). After playing around a bit, I had to take it to a HD dealer for diagnosis. They found the TSSM (turn signal security system) had blown up. They replaced it and off I went ($750.00 Australia). I asked them what caused the issue, they didn't know. After receiving the bike back, I checked for codes (1/2 and hour ride after pick up from dealer). There was a P1006 and P1007 code, (over voltage to the system), which makes sense why the TSSM blew up in the first place (too much voltage and blew up a chip in the TSSM. I reset the codes and went on another 20 minutes ride, sure enough the codes are back. I was thinking the regulator, but again, i thought, lets change the battery back to the original one (Yuasa 320cca). went on a ride for 1 hour, no codes. Next day another ride, no codes. It's been one week and again, no codes. The problem with these batteries is that they are too powerful (at rest around 13.3v and when been charging 14.8v, but when you rev the engine, they go over 16v.) this is a very expensive lesson. Apart from the initial cost of the battery (over $400 Australia dollars) I also had a repair that the battery caused of $750 Au. dollars. MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THESE BATTERIES ARE A DISASTER AND I WORN ANYONE AGAINST BUYING THEM. I'm not your average bloke when it comes to bikes, I know what im doing and have diagnosed this problem properly, I used to build some of the badest prostreets and choppers Australia has seen. Do yourself a favour and steer well clear of Antigravity batteries. Grab yourself a Yuasa YUAM732HL (500 cca) and you will never look back or have anything blow up. Cheers, from Sydney, Australia.

[@Jonathan-L]

Thanks for the detailed feedback Tim. I think you saved me from peril ... I was pretty close to ordering a SSB LH20L-BS battery ($466!) for my 103 Harley, and I read your post on KZbin. Instead, I'll get a Deka ETX-20L (non-lithium) for $230. I think I'll wait a few years before I dive into the lithium battery thing. Based on the disaster you had, I can't afford to take gamble at the moment.

[@oe3039]

Hey Tim, thanks for posting this. Question: shouldn't the voltage regulator prevent this or no? I was looking into getting one of these myself for my FXDB. Had the engine bored to 110 and the bike is STRUGGLING to come to life with my YTX20L (12v 270 CCA). Definitely need a different battery but don't wanna blow anything like you're saying here.

[@tim595]

@@oe3039 Hi, the regulator should take care of this and limit the amount of volts going to any electronics on the bike, but for whatever reason, this battery seemed to bypass the bikes electronics and send damaging volts spikes. Since I posted my comment, I still have not had an issue with a "normal" battery. If I were you, measure the size cavity of where your battery sits and get the biggest 'normal' battery(with the most cold cranking amps) you could fit. This way you should have all the starting power you need without running the risk of damaging (very expensive electronics). Also if you do some research, antigravity batteries do not last no where near as long as your normal batteries. In theory, antigravity batteries sound great, extremely light with shitload of c.c.a., but with my experience using it, I would steer well clear of them. Like I mentioned in my original post, i used to build custom choppers and prostreets, (and do all the wiring), so I'm not your average person. I have some electrical knowledge behind me.

[@oe3039]

@@tim595 Thanks for the reply, okay yeah think I'll stick to something more conventional then. Really appreciate the feedback, cheers

[@pedroc6823]

That’s one of the many reasons why I went back to AGM. Replaced my rectifier just to make sure. No more issues.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Whoa, haven't seen this before. Awesome to see a company thinking about batteries and trying something new. Thumbs up.

[@2superblus]

I love installing Antigravity in all of my builds

[@Algae3]

Which of these sized batteries would be best for 2013 CBR600RR?

[@jesseparbhu6125]

Heard about it but didn't get a chance to research it so thanks for this video. Will buy one as soon as my stock battery acts up. It's going to hit it's 2nd winter outside without a charger lol

[@markschroeder1581]

As always, great info in short period of time!

[@kdhardt]

Just had my ATZ-10 delivered today but it did not came with the nice battery terminal blocks. I have to figure out something...

[@lostinpa-dadenduro7555]

This will be my next battery for my dirt bike.

[@jpalmiotti]

This will be my next haircut... also going to try this battery for my CB750K. ;)

[@nightprowlerch19]

I'm looking for a battery For my bike in the Winter. Every Winter when it hits 32ﾟ even on new batteries doesn't want to crank. What would be the best battery for my Dina for the Winter months.

[@RevZilla]

For cold weather we suggest AGM batteries, like these: www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/yuasa-gyz-factory-activated-agm-high-performance-battery In my experience, these are the most reliable option for cold weather starting. I hope that helps! -Zack

[@user-ld6wo4rv8h]

The Antigravity website claims a capacity for the ATZ7 of 7 Amp Hours (PbEq)/ 3.3Ah (Actual) under the specs. So which is it? 7Ah or 3.3Ah?

[@chrisphilhower6029]

I have a Twin Power Lithium in my 18 1200 Custom. I'm about to remove it. It struggles to get started below 50F. Sometimes taking up to 4 attempts

[@richierich2154]

sears had one called the switch like 20 years ago it was great you just lifted the switch and it had a separate 12v section car would start you put the switched down then the gen would charge both systems best led battery ever

[@elitelawn9547]

I bought this battery for a Beta 200rr. It will not turn the bike over. Another battery turned the bike over. Just clicks the converter. Reads at 14V+ on a Tusk lithium charger on the ion-fe setting. Very frustrating to spend the extra money for this battery that doesn't work.

[@readysetterrible3278]

Im changing my battery on a 2013 BMW K1600GTL, whats the best way to do this (safely) and save my settings thanks

[@777astercheese]

Change it like any other battery. Isn't dangerous unless you make it dangerous. No idea about saving your settings, I assume you mean your ECU, it probably turns off anyway when your ignition is off.

[@ChuckWood]

Do you have a cigarette lighter or 12v accessory accessory plug? Just Google "12v memory saver", requires a 9v battery. Plug it in, make sure key stays on while you are changing battery.

[@worldpeace5853]

I live in Minnesota. My questions are as follows. Do you mean to say that I can just let it be in my un insulated garage in the winter without any battery tender hooked and hit the restart button next summer? If not, what exact tender needs to be hooked to it to maintain the voltage level? What is the life expectancy on an average if the cycle keeps repeating since obviously nothing lasts forever?

[@xXRedEyedStrangerXx]

I leave my bike in NH no trickle charger with one of these. Haven’t even needed to press the button they have started up after the winter every time. They may need to “warm up” as all lithium ion do. Try to start it you will get a click. With 10 seconds and get a few cranks, another 10 seconds start right up.

[@chriscarter9875]

It’s impossible to install the battery in ZX-14R

[@agustinrocacruz]

You didn’t show the Keyfob you mentioned on minute 3:28, could you at least leave a direct link for us to see the keyfob for the antigravity battery?

[@RevZilla]

Unfortunately, we don't have a link to or a photo of the fob yet. When we made the video, the fob was a future product, and unfortunately it hasn't been released yet. For now, you have to get to your battery to press the restart function button. -DrewZilla

[@TheVilouboy]

How about now? Key fob yet?

[@Sequel7]

@@TheVilouboy I can’t find it but it’s mentioned in the manual as well as the part number rrs-1

[@jakemandel92]

Simple & ingenious. One question. One of the benefits of lithium ion batteries is that you can get a smaller battery than the stock lead and create more storage space on the bike. Why did he say "make sure you match up your group size with the one in your bike at the present time"???

[@RevZilla]

While a few of these batteries are offered in more compact sizes, most of these batteries are sized to match the stock battery size. They're still lighter than stock, but there's no need to deal with spacers for the battery box/tray. -DrewZilla

[@BiLoSellHigh]

Would anyone recommend this for an s1000rr ? Any feed back anyone ? Thx

[@DmanGuitar327]

This battery can never die, how many restarts you get?

[@RevZilla]

Well you get one re-start once the battery goes into sleep mode. Once the bike starts and charges back up, you're back to normal for number of starts. -DrewZilla

[@DmanGuitar327]

So it can restart once in sleep mode, after it recharges it can be restarted if ever in sleep mode again?

[@RevZilla]

Correct. -DrewZilla

[@ephrammaker3153]

Love these reviews. Lemmy is the best!

[@unionse7en]

Does the internal bms limit charging current rate based on (cold) temperature? These lifepo4 batteries can discharge at cold temperatures, but near freezing temps they can be damaged by too much charge current. Already understand methods of warming w/load and external heat devices.

[@RevZilla]

It does better than other lithium batteries for motorcycles at cold temperatures, but we still recommend waiting 30-45 seconds after switching the key to ON before starting the bike. -DrewZilla

[@petronacci493]

@@RevZilla Antigravity Batteries - ATX12-24 Lithium Ion Battery - one year after it was purchased and the car almost burned. Attention! Take into account when buying this battery. They are very dangerous! Antigravity Batteries - Lithium-ion battery at LEAST one year after its purchase I EXPLODED when my car was only turned on in my garage. My race car was about to be inseded. Keep this in mind when buying your battery !!!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/opumlqN5Zch6kKc .

[@MANLYMANHAIRYCHEST]

Do these reset the ecu if they cut the power? Or do they simply reduce the power to the point where it's only enough to maintain ecu memory

[@RevZilla]

These will cut power to the bike, so your clock would time out and reset (if your bike has a digital clock). Your odometer and other ECU data would be fine, though, as that doesn't require constant power. -DrewZilla

[@magicare]

Purchased two AG-ATX12-16L Antigravity batteries for 2 classic cars. These NEVER worked satisfactorily from the time of installation. After very carefully ensuring that every aspect of the installations was correct I have determined that these batteries do not perform anything at like their advertised ratings. In fact, new out of the box and connected directly to a starting load these reputedly 480 cranking amp batteries would deliver a maximum of 210 amps with the voltage at the terminals having dropped to under 8.5 volts (1785 Watts). A new 540 CCA lead acid battery tested in the same way delivered 185 amps with the terminal voltage dropping to 11.12 volts (2057 Watts). A call to tech support provided no assistance, as in "tough luck buddy, we have your money". DEFINITELY NOT RECOMMENDED.

[@dj31502]

Thank you for review, Sir.

[@mr.gunnymcshooty1776]

You put a battery ment for a motorcycle in a car and wondered why it wouldn't work..........

[@atan8521]

how life expectancy?

[@tigeroftheeye7121]

Should be 10 yrs

[@atan8521]

@@tigeroftheeye7121 amazing👍🏻

[@CubicIronPyrite]

This is my next battery, I will never buy another Shorai battery ever again. I spent the $$ on a Shorai battery tender, hooked it up. Came back in the spring and found a dead battery. Either the Shorai tender is faulty (doesn't appear to be the case), or too stupid to properly keep the battery charged (maybe you're supposed to bush a button after home power loss, or something). I can't think of a scenario where someone would want to attach the battery tender, and NOT want to keep their battery charged, especially when the primary purpose of the tender (other than charging itself) is to...tend to the battery charge state over periods of non-use. Which leads me to the Shorai battery itself. The battery is also too stupid to keep itself from being over-discharged. The 18650 batteries in my flashlight are smart enough to protect themselves from over-discharging, but not a $160 Shorai. I used to love the Shorai battery because of the weight savings in a sport bike, no I realize how cheap and lazy of a company they are, notably in comparison to their competitors (EarthX is another, btw).

[@joef4918]

OK, been almost 2 years and no key fob. This battery is nearly useless without the remote for many of us. I'd have been perfectly happy with just a wired remote that I could install somewhere accessible on the bike. In fact, it can't be jumped or push started without hitting that stupid button buried under my hard mounted seat. It's actually HARDER to "re-start" a bike with this battery. I guess if you were out in the woods this would be a good feature to have; if it worked, which in my experience, it does not.

[@a.c.e.7568]

Why do I need all that when my factory installed batteries last and start my motorcycle for about 9 years. Then I just replace the old battery. I have never needed a lithium battery booster either. Way too much hype from these lithium manufacturers.

[@malvinacarabas5768]

Interesting . Thanks !

[@benayre6314]

Atz7 left me stranded today. First time I had to use restart. Absolutely garbage experience

[@petronacci493]

Antigravity Batteries - Lithium-ion battery at LEAST one year after its purchase I EXPLODED when my car was only turned on in my garage. My car was about to be inseded. Keep this in mind when buying your battery !!!!! @

[@wewilltravelsoon2237]

PETRO NACCI let me help you what max V does the regulatoe put out

[@petronacci493]

@@wewilltravelsoon2237 NISSAN 350Z FOR RACE OEM ENGINE NO ACCESORI

[@fraaggl]

2:20 isn't that BS ?? There are bms board on every Liion bike battery on the market today (if not you wouldn't be able to charge it correctly). Those BMS have protection for overdischarge/charge, don't they ?

[@MrSokgunslinger]

Sébastien Fraggl yeah they just try to scare you into buying a $120 tender charger.

[@opmike343]

My only concern with these is that the low voltage mode would force you to pull fairings and access the battery on a bike with a lower state of charge that should have otherwise been able to crank over.

[@zero-cy5gc]

I bet you do a mean kermit voice

[@WillyD1]

Battery is junk o bought two for my ktm I ended up charging the skyrich oem battery cause these got no balls at all always dead junk junk junk o and you need a special charger stuff these junk batteries