I Solved Overpopulation in Stellaris

Stellaris Machine Age DLC. How broken could it possibly be?
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[@squidwardart]

It's terrifyingly realistic that a corpo crisis just make the galaxy do literally everything else but fight them through bribes and blackmail

[@LordDragox412]

And that their sinister ultimate goal is powered by a literal orphan crushing machine.

[@dazeyndrowsy]

deny, delay, defend

[@dean_l33]

@@LordDragox412 Praise the orphan crushing machine for it is the life blood of our universe

[@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus]

@@dazeyndrowsy gas light, gatekeep, girl boss

[@Waluigi_Time778]

Parasitic virtual space cubes

[@geraldballinger6428]

Galactic council:"the senate will decide your fate" Kleaper:"i am the senate"

[@beancandev7818]

It's less "I am the senate" and more "How bout no"

[@danielsimmons8861]

@@beancandev7818 technically it’s both🤓

[@beancandev7818]

@@danielsimmons8861 Fair enough

[@Kroncer07]

There can't be a geneva convention if there is no geneva

[@comtruise402]

but then there could be a no geneva convention

[@MrVonglower]

Not a warcrime if the first time

[@gorisonodorob]

There's no Geneva if you crack the Earth

[@AurelionSass]

Geneva convetion 'bout to be hit with some very... **unconvetional** methods.

[@NeonValkyrieGaming]

💯

[@night4345]

The best part of this is imagining a floating cube coming out of an dingy alley and asking people if they want to buy some drugs.

[@deadbeetsurname8810]

Psst. Want some lubricant?

[@conwaysquest6961]

Funny Cube Robot: "You wanna buy some death sticks?"

[@leblanc3536]

Reminds me of that ATHF character

[@shooey-mcmoss]

@@conwaysquest6961 or "wanna experience ascension?"

[@CiaranMaxwell]

@@conwaysquest6961 "You want to go home and rethink your life."

[@minerturtle45]

the idea of the largest threat to the galaxy having so much political power that an ancient empire re-awakens to defeat them and they simply go to the Senate and out-vote literally everyone else to have the entire rest of the galaxy declare war on their saviors is both amazing and terrifying

[@DarkFalcos]

@@CasualNickname I might be mistaken, but aren't they rather fanatic materialist ? I did'nt play the game for a long time, but I thnik the two cogs symbol is for materialism, while the xenophile have the network-thingy icon.

[@CasualNickname]

@@DarkFalcos Oh, snap, you’re right. I was thinking of _my_ game where that species was the Xenophile Fallen Empire and didn’t double-check. How did nobody inform me of this thing I overlooked earlier?

[@TheDamnCook]

The fact that he is manipulating a galaxy into attacking their saviors instead of him, a maniac that feeds beings to machines, is horrifying. I like it

[@viroshanargiri4641]

But the fallen empire had trashed everyone attacked them and they even managed to awaken a second fallen empire which I don't even you can have multiple fallen empires in a single playthrough.

[@TheDamnCook]

@@viroshanargiri4641 pshhh 🤫

[@adisca2k]

@@viroshanargiri4641 There is a slider when generating the galaxy that lets you choose how many fallen empires you want. Having at least 2 is cool since they can start the war in heaven, a 3 way conflict between 2 fallen empires with the normal empires that sided them and a federation of neutral empires.

[@purplefood1]

@@adisca2k Yeah having the three way galaxy is always fun.

[@okamizer0387]

​​@@viroshanargiri4641If you have two fallen empires with opposing ideologies, there's a chance that you can get a late mid game crisis called War in Heaven, in which the entire galaxy is forced to pick sides and fight in a literal hyper war.

[@AiisakaTaiiga]

The people at Paradox really got the vassal/lord relationship upside down. They should rename it to "high maintenance princess" mechanic

[@fosterbennington6405]

Galactic sugar daddy program

[@pickless6917]

They just need to fix the AI so they don’t accept the crazy deals you send them that cripple them economically it’s pretty absurd how easy it is

[@slothful4927]

"whether you like us or not WE ARE SELLING YOU MAC DONALDS" spoken like a true crime lord

[@hadsfhdhdfbgh]

Like a true American!

[@thegeneralscall]

Or the British empire. China will buy the opium, whether china wants to or not.

[@simswapper3598]

Tncj😊😊😮😮😮😊😮😮😮😮🤷🏻‍♂️🆙🆙🆖🇧🇯

[@kallmannkallmann]

@@hadsfhdhdfbgh same shit

[@MaartenVrijsen]

Governmental organisations are running out of room to classify what kleaper has done.

[@ythegamerita]

33:07 that's not saying they're overwhelming, that's saying you are overwhelming to THEM

[@ythegamerita]

Wow I've been noticed by our galactic overlord

[@GabrielHorne]

@@ythegamerita Hail High Gamer Kleaper, Stealer of orphans, Crimelord of the 400 stars.

[@epsilonius-the-great]

"Oh yes! They're racist! This is exactly what we want! " -kleeper 2024

[@furrymessiah]

Nobody: Absolutely no one anywhere in the universe: Kleaper: E A G L E T A R I A N

[@mushyroom9569]

It’s the American way.

[@NamanjaKrakow]

Isn't it like, E-GAL-i-tarion

[@furrymessiah]

@@NamanjaKrakow Yeah, that's what it's supposed to be.

[@NamanjaKrakow]

@furrymessiah thank you I was pretty sure but I had to make sure because Eagletarian is amazing

[@crazymuse007]

Judging by his other video's I'm fairly certain he's dyslexic.

[@Hsereal]

7:41 "I don't think we're comrades, we're literally a megacorporation." _Annoyed workers' co-op noises._

[@vivechjorviani5440]

Alien worlds when a silly little cube tells them to commit crimes

[@Hastalapizza66]

I like how kleaper almost completely recreated the story of Mass Effect 3 by becoming Cerberus and labeling the ancients as the reapers pretty much

[@kyragem9491]

"We're going to make him the leader of our capital, this random guy we just met." Oh so you really are a corporation.

[@KubinWielki]

Your whole tactic of being vassalised reminds me of a quote from Sseth's review of Kenshi: "Hivers are good at slavery. Are they good at capturing slaves? No. They're good at BEING slaves." (paraphrased)

[@florians9949]

Makes money, discorved the galaxy is tearing itself appart, imediatly went back making money.

[@Djiimon]

32:36 "Acquired" Pops: "You enslaved our people for nearly two hundred years!" Cubes: "LOL Oops!"

[@jonathantreleven1823]

"This is how democracy dies." *"With* *thunderous* *applause."* -Kleapatine

[@giantWario]

15:27 Commercial zones give you amenities and cash. Your crime outpost is stealing their money and lowering their amenities. The A.I. is trying (unsuccessfully) to fix his planet from the problems you created without destroying your outpost since you still have good relations with them somehow.

[@CM-db5cg]

Why are you just making shit up? It's like that because the AI is doing a trade build. For one, crime doesn't lower amenities. Crime can be produced by pops with low happiness which can be caused by low amenities, but it doesn't work the other way around. Also the AI isn't choosing to not close the branch office cuz they like him, you can't close a criminal branch office like a normal one, they have a random chance to close every month if you get crime to zero. One way the branch office might have encouraged the AI to build how they did is the fact that criminal holdings by and large give trade value and trade jobs (in addition to crime) so the AI sees this planet with randomly high trade value. Depending on the holdings and how unlucky the planet holder gets you can be giving more trade value than you take. (Assuming max crime value) a planet can have 3 to 4 criminal jobs (more likley 3) Each criminal job is -5 trade value. But each crime holdong gives 5 or 6 trade value and on a big world you have four of them. Of course crime lowers stablity which in turn lowers job output and trade value, but as we see here the AI has kept their stablity well above 50, presumably through happieness and soldier jobs from the military leader they have. So a trade world settup like this the AI is profiting from the crime syndicate. Not that it's smart enough to do that intentionally.

[@TheGreatDanish]

Why would you do this? Just come on the internet and tell lies?

[@Digihart123]

@@CM-db5cg Uhhh what's that quote again? "Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by..."

[@josecoronadonieto6911]

Dude on the first half of the episode is basically roleplaying as luxembourg

[@GGGONEXT67]

As an hoi 4 player... this is exactly true lol

[@jakeking974]

Ah, cool, the "fuck this shit, I'm out" ending. And I'm guessing that what you end up doing to this universe to get to another is REALLY BAD.

[@OneBiasedOpinion]

Actually it’s not nearly as bad as what the Aetherophasic Engine is gonna do. And ironically, it seems your eventual “escape” just lands you in an uncertain voyage across unknown universes hoping desperately that you’ll get lucky and manage to find one you can mold before your incredible starship takes one hit too many and leaves you either stranded, or worse…

[@shapshapshapshap2829]

@@OneBiasedOpinion I mean, just studying the technology to achieve this ending altered the very laws of reality in accelerating the speed at which metabolism works, so I’m guessing to achieve the necessary speed, power, and whatever else you may need to *escape the universe itself* could have caused everlasting changes to said universe. It could be raining cats and dogs, literally.

[@Makedar-nim]

@@shapshapshapshap2829 Its one of the events. I`ve got "Pi rounded to 3". It resulted in -80% of each science and +33 speed of fleet construction)

[@Hexmonkey]

@@shapshapshapshap2829you need to research how to rewrite reality because you discover that it’s not possible cause the universe is too big and old that any changes will be reverted which is the whole reason you leave. So even if you cause massive changes to reality while leaving in a few years it will be better.

[@brunoptcsa]

Holding limit is not per planet, is per empire. They can build four holdings and yes they can build all four in a single planet.

[@TheArklyte]

If that's true then overlord holdings are just pathetic. 4 buildings per empire is nothing when basic megacorp gets 4 per planet. You mixed something up.

[@SolazLive]

@@TheArklyte It is 4 per empire max and yea overlord holdings are trash in general

[@ileydl658]

Unfortunately he did not :((

[@arian9468]

You can go for unity rush with the help of the holdings,just spam vassels and you find yourself with lots of unity(of course you must not be xenophobic) ​@@SolazLive

[@kassuhei]

​@@TheArklyte it is like that. 4 max holdings per planet and max 4 holding per empire. And you can build them all on one planet. And having 4 buildings for megacorp, the planet needs to have 50 pop for the highest tier capital building, which takes quite a long time. But yes, vassal holding buildings are pathetic.

[@huyhuy3837]

Fun video, I always love to see what people are doing with new Stellaris content. One small correction btw: As Virtual, your pops grow and disappear automatically to fill empty jobs, so your pop growth speed is essentially your planet building speed. It is absolutely BUSTED. And since they grow instantly + automatically, you DON'T want to assimilate other robots, since that gains you nothing. Just keep them unvirtual and chuck them into the Lathe (Virtual pops cannot be moved into the Lathe).

[@KainYusanagi]

*Offers 4 holdings with one planet* "This is an offer you cannot refuse."

[@KiuhKobold]

15:25 My exact reaction whenever I manage to vassalize or ally with ANYONE in TWW3 (Total War Warhammer 3). Its always "Why the hell are you building advanced military on a SMALL settlement, AI?"

[@sebastiangibson9671]

yeah notice that when i confed alot for some reason The AI Or game doesnt Compute that its a bad idea to waste build slots

[@ninjaoforthanc8177]

‘Breaking Stellaris with One Planet Only’ or: Yakuza cubes destroy the galaxy

[@theminecraft4202]

as a machinist Kleaper's pronunciation of "Synaptic Lathe" hurt me

[@Taricus]

Saying "eagle tarian" rather than "Egalitarian" is like nails on chalkboard for me LOL!

[@LordDragox412]

Don't worry, he changed his pronunciation every time he said the word :P

[@Demonsmith42]

​@@LordDragox412 AND NONE WHERE RIGHT

[@OneBiasedOpinion]

Same. “Eagle-tarian” was equally painful.

[@adam13magic63]

As a machinist that runs lathes daily I second that the pronunciation of "Synaptic Lathe" kills me inside too.

[@BattleUnit3]

Fun fact, my first successful playthrough, i didnt know that purging pops caused relations ship to fall. So after purging several species i wsa very surprised that the whole galaxy in facts hates me

[@PointsofData]

I mean, I feel like that should be evident. Were you not aware what the word "purging" meant?

[@BattleUnit3]

@@PointsofData I was aware that i was industrially reducing several species to base components, even moving them to other planets to make it even faster...i just didnt think anyone would have a problem with it.

[@estoericaferret]

@@BattleUnit3 ...your mind terrifies me.

[@remixgameyt1172]

​@@estoericaferret he's a true stellaris player

[@JoshuaKelly-hf2kx]

@@remixgameyt1172John “genocide” Stellaris.

[@catman-hi5cn]

This would be extremely scary to deal with irl. People with tons of money, public relations, and powerful friends doesn’t really have a weakness

[@criticalcommenter]

You could probably get away with being totally senile and still be president! Glad that sort of thing doesn't really happen.....

[@MrNone-d5s]

Have you heard of Blackrock?

[@gothscvm2878]

@@MrNone-d5s you don’t even have to go that deep to stumble into this sarcastic ass post irl, ya doofus.

[@TheChronova]

yeah it *would be scary* good thing that this isnt happening in real life... ...right?

[@Subarashii_Nem]

Boeing, BP, Amazon.. They're not like this right guys? Guys...?

[@gun8737]

Tilly is rocking that "gonna break into your house and steal your energy drinks" fit

[@RowanMackenzie]

"I can only have one planet" *immediately builds things on molten planets* You probably should have specified that you'll only *colonize* one planet haha

[@rocket_hops]

ah yes my favorite style of government, eagletarian

[@pikpikgamer1012]

Correction with the holdings: Yes they could build one holding across 4 worlds but they could also build 4 holdings on one planet. So they can do stuff with those extra 3 holdings and they are not void like you assume.

[@ZippytheHappyChimp]

All those flavor lines about the shroud awakening; if you continue to play, there should be repeated invasions as shroud critters follow your backtrail back to this universe. IDK if that's actually programed in there, but that's how it SHOULD work :p

[@mishodeesh6664]

Isn’t that the other crisis path?

[@sirbill_greebi3811]

I haven't watched this yet, but this is my prediction of how this goes: Kleeper: "I have one world." Game: "LOL. Okay, I guess we'll just conquer you." Kleeper: **Builds star destroyer out of corpses using child labor**

[@JahJah-CleverHandle]

*The children yearn for the starship dockyards*

[@dreamerwav698]

wow you were dead wrong

[@sirbill_greebi3811]

@@dreamerwav698 I should've known the answer was making money and exploiting nepotism.

[@Brenhydra]

43:17 "inward Perfectionist? _gasp!_ I'm gonna eat them!" has me giggling uncontrollably.

[@tacticalnuke5673]

I like how the new way to become the crisis is just your people look around and say, "This universe fucking sucks, lets travel to a new one."

[@shapshapshapshap2829]

Man whoever came up with the idea of achieving such a high tech level you can quite literally change how reality works deserves a raise, that ideas amazing.

[@last_dutch_hero258]

Galaxy : Fighting for their lives Kleaper : "Adios" (Litterally the adios meme actually nowi think about it)

[@Archangel3447]

Pitting the universe against a fallen empire just to keep their attention off you, is the best Idea I have never had. Thank you

[@wickerderig3644]

At 24:00 while it’s true that virtual pops cannot be assembled after completing virtuality this is instead replaced with virtual pops spontaneously appearing to fill empty jobs and disappearing if unemployed, they do not remain at a fixed number

[@anonomusperson]

or in simple terms: all jobs are filled, and you lose unemployed virtual pops

[@kamilagonda9993]

36:40 Cosmogenesis gives you dragonscales armour tech. You dont have to kill the dragon.

[@HenrikEbert]

41:10 Takes Galactic Contender to defend against crisis. Unless they changed something the Unbidden are a endgame crisis and he would need to pick Defender of the Galaxy. So big brain plays by him :D

[@embee-en]

You get the dragon scale armor from cosmogenesis to compliment the dark matter components

[@jonathanwells223]

45:10 huh, I guess some things never change no matter how big

[@IceGavel]

25:23 The reason your Diplomatic Weight from Pops is so high is the same reason that you're no longer assembling Mechanical Pops - you did the Virtuality Ascension. Once the tree is done, your primary Machine Species will _instantly autofill all unworked Jobs on all your planets_ by literally just creating Pops of that species from the aether. Virtuality uncouples your economy from the need to grow Pops and makes it entirely planet-focused, because the moment anything finishes building on a planet it _instantly_ gets worked and starts producing resources.

[@jamesd2021]

"Theres one pop and 100% crime what is this guy doing" Crime probably.

[@Theoeckozuluwsky]

He’s just constantly jaywalking

[@TheRealPallyman]

This has to be the craziest and funniest Stellaris video ever. Had me cry-laughing for the entire last half. Well done my dude! Excellent stuff.

[@FriendlyArchpriest]

Cuban Civilization? Do they sell Space Sugar and Space Spicy Cigars?

[@OneWithTheBears]

Nah but we got some menthol swishers you want some?

[@KaiserTwo]

Kleaper is the literal definition of: “Who’s gonna stop me?”

[@arepupu]

This was a great watch! Watched the whole thing while eating. I'd love to see you do more Stellaris, it was really entertaining to watch you play!

[@CheeseWeasle]

Cuban Empire and Mark Cuban was an amazing pun. Completely overwhelming applause and standing ovation my guy 😂

[@LastGoatKnight]

"I am the Senate" "Not yet" "It is treason then"

[@wowiexist9875]

Is no-one gonna mention the fact that he calls it "Eagle-tarian"?

[@Rickypeepee9932]

Geneva convention more like geneva checklist

[@AndrewChumKaser]

Virtual pops are instantly created to fill any vacant job you have on your planet. You don't need pop assembly anymore, you just need to create more buildings and jobs.

[@mrendermun]

The strategy is literally being a leech. I love it

[@grayrook8637]

Somewhere between such industrious brain harvesting and the kill assist by ruining any chance of anyone actually stopping the nemesis empire Kleaper did the impossible. A double crisis run.

[@anonomusperson]

if we get a new crisis, its either going to be diplomaticly based, or enconomicaly based

[@grayrook8637]

@anonomusperson in Synthetic Queen retrospective. Ya kinda.

[@DrRitterstein]

10:50 Thats not how that works, holdings are total across the subject empire, if you give them 4 holdings they can build 4 holdings on your one planet

[@MeJustMe101]

Really? i never had my puppet States build holdings on my planets.

[@lordcaedus8713]

“Whereas a smart man says ‘I am the Senate!’ A wise man simply says ‘Senate?!?’” -Grimkleaper

[@TheGreatDanish]

God, this galaxy was a fucking nightmare. Run by criminals, in a constant state of intergalactic war, beset by the Khan, The Chosen, two awakened empires, and then when all seemed at its worst, some mobster robots tear the fabric of reality up, destroying a quarter of the galaxy, leaving it at the mercy of someone with a spicy star to destroy the rest of it for shits and giggles.

[@Mamorufumio]

You just know the stellaris devs are watching this and wondering how do they fix this

[@benjamingray2071]

literally just making every planet space detroit

[@SolazLive]

You shouldn't take mass produced on your starting robot pops, it's just a waste of trait points. You can instantly after starting the game make a new template with mass-produced and recycled for quick and cheap assembled pops and set them to be assimilated after being made. This makes luxurious and custom-made free trait points on your main species.

[@justpopka7251]

he getting kicked off of 109 planets with this one

[@PichuStardust]

I had a Khan event that happened on the far other side of my galaxy, they took so long to reach my empires borders, only for their great leader to pass away before they could force me to submit to their rule

[@cyphi474]

"...and as much as they're going ahead and try denounce me, it's too bad i'm literally on the council." Thats UN for you....

[@colt1903]

"We are going to lose Mark Cuban as our leader but that doesn't really matter. He'll come back." Perfect missed opportunity to name him William Afton so you could double down on that statement with the "I always come back" thing. 😂

[@36jbf-as031lb]

William Cubeton *Retunrs from around the corner!*

[@OneWithTheBears]

Nerd you will die in the cold vacuum of space.

[@RhysCallinan-hf7qx]

Literally any supernatural killer, like Jason Voorhees, Michael Myers, Freddy Krueger etc.

[@sejt23]

palpatine would actually fit better, considering *space*

[@approximatelyme3260]

​@@sejt23Somehow, Cubepatine came back.

[@The_Real_Soldier_Boy]

6:46 "They are racist..... This is the absolute best thing that we could have happen to us"

[@FirstLast-cg2nk]

Bro literally "The Mouse That Roared" his way into galactic dominance.

[@vanukas8783]

"I am destroying their capital with crime and I'm also making 50 dollars from it" yep...

[@radordekeche947]

Correction about the holdings - it's not one per planet, it's one building per holding. So 4 is 4 buildings in total, either on one planet, or across 4 planets.

[@Acadeimos]

Keeping the Manefesti for kicks, especially in the early game, gives you a pretty good chunk of unity, which makes up for the ‘Manefesti Faction’ that pops up later on. Should definitely hold onto it

[@The_Art_of_Music_Official]

WE NEED MORE OF THIS I love this man's sense of humor mixed with a game of such potentials

[@Cheshire5174]

Kleaper: (to overlords) trade offer: I get all your stuff, you get crime. Overlord: that's great! Where do I sign? Kleaper: I am the senate GalCom: hey kleaper, your in breach of Galactic Law Kleaper: no. GalCom: we're gonna kick you out of the galactic community Kleaper: *No.* Fallen Empire: you are the crisis Kleaper: *No U.* GalCom: we wiped out a crisis- WAIT A FUCKING SECOND! Awakened Empires: *FUCKING STOP HIM!* Kleaper: bye.

[@kylekonop4801]

...what is Eagletarian? Does it mean the society eats eagles?

[@criticalcommenter]

It's a system where basic education and reading skills are ignored.

[@Operr_Omuc]

with all the diplomats you have and the amount of friendship you have with everyone I'm pretty sure there are publicity all over the galaxy like "love the little cute adorable cubes!"

[@susaac9755]

This us Tzeentch level of scheming holy sh

[@OneWithTheBears]

Scheme all you want... Papa's love will always enfold you in the end.

[@theterminateder]

In this episode, Grim Kleaper creates the Torment Nexus from the critically acclaimed sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus.

[@josecoronadonieto6911]

Bro is creating Nostramo with over 100% criminal rating

[@NathanielWebb-c9r]

The perfect and only true way to play Stellaris

[@StarScream_47]

Had no idea there was a 2nd channel Time to binge watch every video back to back

[@benlarbiskandeer2099]

i love you're craziness i hope you will enlighten us with more geneva conventions

[@petulantpeterturbo]

Man just used the Geneva convention as a checklist and dipped.

[@PRO100SashaX]

Man this USA simulator do be looking great.

[@chasercharls]

You didn’t kill the either drake, you get that technology with cosmogenesis.

[@PogTheFrog]

Bro the FTL music in the beginning brought so many memmories back i wanna cry 😭

[@KanuckStreams]

Kleaper: *Shoots Galaxy.* Kleaper: "Why would the galaxy do this?"

[@block_01_]

0:28 so just normal stellaris then?

[@Met4ben]

Yes

[@edward9487]

Alternative title: BECOMING THE *DYSTOPIAN GOVERNMENT*

[@jamestan5213]

Geneva Conventions? Geneva Suggestions.

[@Draenen]

I love that you somehow managed to mispronounce lathe two different ways in two times of saying it (Much love)

[@corvididaecorax2991]

The crisis path actually gives the dragon scale armor. Combined with nanite repair systems there is no reason to use shields anymore.

[@grimtopia4804]

00:00 you cannot trick me by playing my favorite opening theme in all of gaming, Space Cruise from FTL

[@recruit101]

War crimes? Never heard of em. Sounds more like suggestions anyway.

[@ichbindaheim]

The best part about the diplomacy thing is that in one of the unity trees you can get another +50% diplomatic weight when opposing solutions

[@mouse9831]

oh your videos bring so much joy

[@camgor4048]

Very much in need of more Kleaper Stellaris content.

[@Clasteau]

Corporate V.R. cube drug lords of the galaxy? You got your Cyberpunk 2099 in our Galactic War Crimes Sim