AntiLaser Priority: Degraded DragonEye Performance

[@ncdogg425]

Wow two videos in the 24-hour period much love thanks❤❤❤

[@VortexRadar]

haha, busy times!

[@the_la_path9679]

@@VortexRadarwhat do you think about the TMG Alpha-17 system for an area with no dragon eye?

[@VortexRadar]

I keep seeing issues with that system as well. It’s an option with its advantages like anything else, and it should do the job, but I’m not in love with it by any means.

[@the_la_path9679]

@@VortexRadar Thanks!

[@ericherrero4334]

I have a uniden R8 i was on the highway, and I got hit by laser. Gave me enough timer to slow down a little bit, but I was shocked that the radar detector caught it the R8 definitely, the best radar detector I ever had. And the most expensive, well worth it

[@uor]

prolly from scatter

[@CDUBMERC]

Thanks for the video for sure. It explains why my system allowed a punch through against the dragon eye resulting in a ticket. I wasn’t happy one bit. When I lose confidence in something it takes a lot to gain it back. ALP needs to get on the stick quickly to remedy this or they will lose a 8 year customer. If they can update as quick as they did during your testing they should not have a problem updating the software as quick as tonight.

[@CDUBMERC]

So, a little follow up on my situation. Right now I’m running the HW 4 and the software vs. 5.7.1 which ALP said was the latest version. I’m curios on their suggestion if anyone wants to chime in here. My vehicles are 2020 F150, 2022 F350, and 2023 Bronco. Each has the same laser system with 2 regular sensors and one black TX sensor. All vehicles are up to date with same software version. ALP is suggesting I add another TX sensor, due to the large front ends, and believes this could be the reason for the punch through of the dragon eye, resulting in the ticket. Before I upgrade to the HW6 what do you guys think of the suggestion? Especially, with all the testing that’s been done that is spoken of in this video? Thanks for your help and feedback.

[@markmiller4595]

Thanks for the video. Much appreciate your honesty & integrity handling this. ALP has been the gold standard but we've all seen issues over the past couple years and it's too often been ignored.

[@ericmueser]

If I paid $3,000+ for a laser jamming system and got a punch-through resulting in a ticket, I'd be *pissed.* I've only been hit with laser once or twice ever, there's no excuse for it not to work perfectly.

[@Him_othy]

What system u have?

[@ericmueser]

@Him_othy Well I have a unit in R8 which is capable of running jammers, but I don't have any of the jamming heads or other hardware. My main defense against laser is lawyers and Waze.

[@Him_othy]

@ yeah i love wave and my radar but my biggest thing is in my 610-4. It has no screen for waze since it is only a 2016. Thinking of getting jammers but honestly probably not cuz i dont even get tickets as it is. As long as your no speeding EVERYWHERE and you are aware you shouldnt get a lot of tickets. Plus laser jammers are illegal in every state too

[@ericmueser]

@Him_othy *Laser* Jammers are legal in all but 13 states. You're probably thinking of *radar* jammers which are illegal in all 50 states with *super* high penalties, and are also virtually unobtainable. My usual setup if I'm planning on going fast is my Uniden R8 for radar detection and my phone on a windshield mount running Highway Radar (an app similar to Waze but basically on steroids). That works great in any car regardless of its technology, and even when I'm on my motorcycle I can connect the radar detector to my phone and get radar and crowd sourced audibly through my helmet. I've never gotten a ticket running this setup. I've only come across cops running laser three times in my entire time driving, two of which I got tickets from because I wasn't running an app, and one of which with a friend which we were warned about from Highway Radar. A lawyer got me out of both of those tickets, and for significantly less than it would have cost to get a laser jamming system.

[@Bostonn617]

@@ericmueser The r8 is not capable of running jammers unfortunately

[@robertalcala1385]

Good for new radar detector here this year 😊

[@darylhaack7752]

Thanks for posting. Great information to digest. Love the honesty. Cheers

[@jasonstupak4535]

Thanks so much for the video! Hope ALP fixes this soon. I run it on both our vehicles.

[@damianbartlett4868]

It seems like Uniden is leaving a lot of money on the table by not having a more budget friendly option, especially in light of these recent results. I feel like TPX is going be the big winner here.

[@OHWRDAMI1]

Honestly its gotten to the point that I don't firmware update until I check the forum and get a report from Vortex. I have been hit by a dragoneye before on an older version of the firmware and I haven't updated since then. It saved me then. It kinda feels like ALP is more concerned about protecting their intellectual property from getting stolen than they are about protecting my car from revenuers with badges.

[@sigbauer9782]

F the cops

[@cool2180]

For real. They just there to make money for the state

[@cool2180]

I was about to get the alp. Sounds like I need to get the r9 system.

[@NKaumans]

On the Tesla Cybertruck, what was being targeted on the vehicle? I didn't see a front license plate, and it doesn't appear to have reflective headlight housings. Man, I was so tempted to pull the trigger on the ALP, but more and more I look at the TPX system. Awesome video and 411, thanks for all that you do Ariel!

[@VortexRadar]

Yeah for any specifics like that, you can hop onto the forums and ask. The test shots also list who the shooters were for the different test passes.

[@tle5338]

At 3:56, where the outer jammer heads are installed is where the headlight is located.

[@MaFTB]

It doesn't need to be a super reflective target. Anything newer than the turn of the millennium should lock on to the body all the way out to 2000ft+. It's only the really old 90s guns where you really want to target reflective spots for best lock at distance

[@lllilililililililililll]

Wouldn't stainless steel be super reflective

[@MaFTB]

@@lllilililililililililll it can be. Though the one in the video is wrapped white

[@paulallison8410]

Thank you.

[@BSE1320]

If we get a R9 standalone, stand aside boys, theres a new sheriff in town.

[@sir.636]

Yes very curious what you find regarding the standalone uniden laser jammer.

[@jerseyshorecountermeasure]

Ahhhhh the jamming days are coming to a close guys....

[@HappyHarvick4]

I was getting ready to spend the coin on the ALP, but now I'm thinking of saving the money and going TPX since Gonzo Prius was having such great luck with his.

[@twotoned2774]

Everyone should know you're not sponsored. You give us the truth, regardless if you agree or not.

[@tonymontana9275]

What are jam codes ?

[@ZboeC5]

Uniden is out to dominate.

[@steelhelix]

Kinda glad I haven't updated in awhile. Do you have any idea when this changed, what versions were still good?

[@CDUBMERC]

Got a quick question if someone can help with advice on what I was told from ALP after getting a ticket from a punch through. So, a little follow up on my situation. Right now I’m running the HW 4 and the software vs. 5.7.1 which ALP said was the latest version. I’m curios on their suggestion if anyone wants to chime in here. My vehicles are 2020 F150, 2022 F350, and 2023 Bronco. Each has the same laser system with 2 regular sensors and one black TX sensor. All vehicles are up to date with same software version. ALP is suggesting I add another TX sensor, due to the large front ends, and believes this could be the reason for the punch through of the dragon eye, resulting in the ticket. Before I upgrade to the HW6 what do you guys think of the suggestion? Especially, with all the testing that’s been done that is spoken of in this video? Thanks for your help and feedback.

[@151engine]

What laser jammer do you recommend for a 2024 Chevy Colorado ?

[@DaveyCrockett1]

Tighter beam patterns. Finer clarity for guns and their capabilities. Especially in the time of drone tech.

[@lllilililililililililll]

Oh well time to raise the price again 🤷

[@daniellele9634]

Would the ALP still be good in the European/sacndinavian market? Or would you recommend another brand Mr Vortex?

[@VortexRadar]

It was developed originally in Croatia, but I don’t keep up with what works in every part of the world, sorry. If you’d need to ask someone familiar with the threats, countermeasures, and laws for the countries you drive in.

[@brandonkushner7751]

What was the last firmware version that was effective? I want to go check my system to see which FW version I have.

[@JamesCase-uz3hc]

Great Video Probably been asked .... Can you Downgrade the Firmware ... we have Dragon Eyes all over here and I have three of these ... not in Slow cars !

[@VortexRadar]

You can if you have the old firmware file saved on your computer from before. You can’t grab it otherwise.

[@WICKEDRADAR]

@vortex did you use laptop change main head from 1 to 2 ?

[@SloDwn1135]

There’s no DE around me, but an issue with Stalker would be bad news for someone with jammers.

[@steelhelix]

Has there been any update from ALP about this yet?

[@VortexRadar]

ALP has been doing a lot of testing behind the scenes and is definitely working on this. No ETA for an update though.

[@laloajuria4678]

ironic as its a felony in TN....

[@user-xk5so7wb2t]

Ouch, worse case is; hopefully ALP can figure it out soon & either add in an extra piece/controller. w/o needing to replace the whole syst.

[@Rossm812]

Are you seeing the same decline in HW2 performance?

[@alanfield735]

It’s a bad time for ALP to get sloppy since theres viable options

[@Wreckless6449]

Alp quality is falling and their prices are rising, so sad might have to take Alp out and switch to Uniden R9 since I’m using Alp Netradar

[@vancity2349]

Wow what the heck is going on with ALP?

[@jimbo5728]

Can't you just install old firmware?

[@VortexRadar]

If you saved the firmware file on your computer, yes. No way to get it otherwise.

[@jimbo5728]

@VortexRadar manufacturer really needs to make old firmware available. They've effectively *disabled* the product they sold to their customers. A class action suit would be next, if not for the fact that this is a tool to break the law 😂. Any other situation, the company would be in deep 💩 for not rectifying this immediately.

[@Griggja82]

Well well well ! Imagine that. All those years of TMG bashing.

[@TWSmith42]

Oh dear. First Escort's Redline 360 now ALP dropping the ball. Industry leaders flaming out. :( Maybe the manufacturer of police laser guns bought ALP?

[@VortexRadar]

It’s kinda depressing

[@unvjustintime1]

My uniden r8 and uniden laser jammers working great together. Ohh wait-it’s not 2029 yet!

[@Sunofmungo]

​@unvjustintime1 I'm waiting for the integration with the R8 and jammer. I don't feel like replacing my R8. I like how it sits. I just want to ass the jammer

[@utbigpapa]

The king has fallen

[@cwill2127]

I genuinely don’t get how laser jammers are legal in the first place lmao

[@mike-uw6wt]

I understand the frustration but ALP can easily fix this with new (old) firmware.

[@VortexRadar]

In theory for sure. They need to build something new for everyone IMO. Unless you happen to have older firmware saved from before, there’s no way to get older firmware right now.

[@carspear]

Eeeks. I think Escort shines today, atleast after yesterday's Video. 🤪. Jam Codes arent good.

[@mylesprior4985]

The Uniden R9 set up starts at $4000. With installation around $8000.00 Insane

[@marshracing]

I'd rather talk my way out of a jam code then talk my way out of my speed lmao