Antonio Pierce Made A HUGE MISTAKE Not Starting Aiden O’Connell From The Start?

[@eddogg805]

After second half of last season... O'Connell earned the right to start this season...

[@ionpick9237]

Exactly.

[@winstonsyme5899]

100%. And this horrible decision is why AP should be fired.

[@berendoballbomber5977]

Now if only AOC don't get injury at start of season remember AOC is slow would of got injury by second game. AOC is experience is a slow standing statue who can't keep his eye on the snap. No i have to disagree Minshew much better than AOC. Great decision by AP to start Minshew.

[@MozNuys]

Facts. AP got his job because of AOC.

[@dietrickmcelveen5954]

Respectfully speaking, leave whatever you're snorting, smoking, taking (in the form of a pill) alone.​@berendoballbomber5977

[@parsapersian80]

Most fans were screaming AOC. Even the analysts were saying AOC is unknown as minshew is a proven case

AC preferred to listen his entourage. Too many chefs in there Vegas kitchen.

[@renzo7375]

Mistake was not starting Sincere Mccormick

[@danzemacabre8899]

The most disappointing decision of the season happened right from the start when Minshew was given the starting job

[@davidmckenzie451]

Scott Turner deserves the job as OC he has experience

[@coryfeldman-hz2yj]

No turners. Raiders deserve better.

[@SouthernOregonReps]

@@coryfeldman-hz2yjnobody wants this job.. they are doing well, let it be

[@biggie6181]

I don’t think it was Pierce decision to start Minshew at QB

[@Lastlaugh4442]

If thars true, then he has no control he has to go

[@itzmoney2390]

Facts they was all in on sanders from the jump, they knew they was gonna tank

[@brandonriddlesprigger8754]

Me neither....

[@jamesjross]

@@Lastlaugh4442 You don't think the GM put his thumb on the scale?

[@donwalsh4445]

aoc is afranchise qb

[@winstonsyme5899]

Yes he is. Hopefully the idiots who run this organization recognize that. Or he will prove himself elsewhere

[@frankhernandez6883]

thank U

[@coryfeldman-hz2yj]

Would not be at all surprised if he has a better career than ward, or milroe, or young... Ect

[@DcoleRAIDER909]

Not yet.. but if coached the right way.. Yes

[@itzmoney2390]

Too bad not for raiders 🤣

[@charlesrazo7246]

When the Raiders were the Raiders in the playoffs and winning Super Bowls, they used to run what Al used to call the vertical game🏆🏆🏆

[@jamesjross]

The 70s/80s Nfl was very different.

[@martinez209]

It was Telesco not AP. I'm for giving AP another shot next season with AOC at the helmet and an elite Oline

[@dietrickmcelveen5954]

Agree, with better interior players via draft, AOC will be much better come next season. He showed what he can do last season.

[@davidmckenzie451]

Once again bringing in AOC to save the day

[@donwalsh4445]

garner cashew would not even be on my practice squad

[@hh-jy1ld]

Bench this dude… trying to mess up the tank 😂

[@anthonymontana-zn9in]

AOC has Earned the Right to be the 2025 Starter.

[@Raymel88]

Telesco paid 15 mil so Minshew could play here and not be the backup. That forced AP hand and he had to start him. Also Pierce had Kingsbury but Telesco and Davis couldn't give him a long term contract and couldn't get Daniels in the draft. Let AP cook this off season with the cap space and getting the players and coaches he now knows the 100% he needs in place

[@enamelred]

Only thing going against AP is his game management on the field. It's really bad. No need to burn that timeout on the 58 yard field goal try. I think he's wildly inconsistent. He'll go with his players thoughts and body language but doesn't do things that are game management type. Like keeping a timeout on reserve to use in a tricky situation like what happened in yesterday's game.

[@blackhand7294]

I thought it was 25mil not 15? am I wrong?

[@IrvinGarcia-m8c]

Great point ​@@enamelred

[@charlestelk6526]

15 mil is not starter money in the NFL.

[@Raymel88]

@@charlestelk6526 it is when you're the highest paid QB on the team

[@williemurphy2421]

I SAID THAT MONTHS AGO. SHOULD HAVE STAYED WITH AOC FROM THE START. HE WOULD HAVE KEPT PROGRESSING.

[@tyrchp1]

Well, with getsgy as the offensive coordinator, it really wouldn't have made a difference

[@P3rformula]

Agree

[@neroniconni5024]

AOC was not to blame for the error and took responsibility

[@winstonsyme5899]

Something AP should do more often.

[@thehalftimeshow]

AP sent a message to Telesco and Mark Davis by starting Minshew over AOC. He was mad he didn’t get Jayden Daniels. AOC was clearly the better QB in camp, but AP was petty. AOC has had 4 play callers in two seasons and he flashed promise with each one. Imagine if he actually had a good coaching staff and O-Line around him.

[@36madness]

Nah Ap was praising AOC saying he deserved it but paying $25 million for Minshew to be a sitter was a upper management decision maybe even Getsy wanted Minshew because he supposedly cause he was mobile

[@Raidersguru]

He always claps. The signal to snap the ball is stomping his right foot

[@LifeLongRaiderFan]

We got screwed…Again! Great job breaking this down.

[@frankhernandez6883]

*R U BLIND ALEX? you can see on the replay the TE was waving the WR back for the off-sides. AOC was waiting on him to move back in line when the center snapped the ball.*

[@matthewbustos7]

Hindsight is 20/20. Anyone can sound like a genius in past tense. Could have would have should have. If I had heard this before the Chiefs game, I might have been impressed.

[@donwalsh4445]

a monkey can see that aoc should have could have would START

[@mikesauce717]

No telesco made that decision....no way u thinking 900k was starting over 12 million

[@KARMA-ok4yk]

If that was the problem they should paid aoc more so the can play him😂

[@mikesauce717]

@KARMA-ok4yk you must be 10yrs old

[@KARMA-ok4yk]

@@mikesauce717 u must be a charm to be around

[@mikesauce717]

@KARMA-ok4yk naw...just a grumpy old man

[@Navigator001]

There was so much blame to go around with that fumble at the end. The Refs called a dead ball foul, then changed it later to an illegal shift. Meyers and Mayer both moving when the ball was snapped. Aidan was clapping before the lineman even bent over, but apparently Parham thought that was the signal to tap the center once he got set, AP should have kicked the FG on 3rd down. If Meyer hadn't been offsides when Mayer was waving him back, this whole thing might not have happened. Aidan wouldn't have been looking at them trying to make sure they were set, before calling for the snap. Or since the snap was premature, he may have seen it and caught it (maybe).

[@BiggYTRAIDER]

Been saying that since the start of the season. Now people are coming around.

[@melissaadamuska474]

The Raiders never wanted to play w Minshew. Minshew never had a chance.

[@coryfeldman-hz2yj]

Never had a chance? He started week 1. He is a bad play machine. Daunte culpepper with a year 16 Peyton manning arm and a knack for making the wrong read no matter how.simple.the play design. The team saw it, didn't believe in him.. And tada!!! Not magic its a 2 win team.

[@donwalsh4445]

minshew is of no value

[@melissaadamuska474]

@@coryfeldman-hz2yj Raiders suck regardless!!!

[@melissaadamuska474]

@@donwalsh4445 He will be to a team that values him and is a good team to start not one that sucked before he was even there QB!!!

[@donwalsh4445]

@@melissaadamuska474 there is no practice squad league

[@j.michael]

Raider Alex, u need to watch the play right after the Meyers catch that put us at the 4 yard line. (Corner route 2nd qtr). Aiden is clapping then real early as well….that’s a signal to get the guys to line up so he can read coverage….Parham’s job is to look and wait for the Qbs indication he is ready. Parham is completely focused on looking at Aiden there. Aiden gives the nod, Parham makes the tap, all is well. Compare that to the last play….Aiden claps right after the break of the huddle, no different, WRs are not even close to being lined up. The difference is Parham assumes Aiden is ready, never confirms from Aiden, taps JpJ and the rest is history. As a coach, this is easy to see who is at fault here. Parham didn’t do his job correctly. Aiden took the blame like a leader.

[@anthonymontana-zn9in]

False start was called first. Raiders ball.

[@elsalsero417]

Aidan as the starter would have been a far better team. Throwing deep is what the offense lacked and hindered the offense. I'm more upset with jpj committing a penalty early in the game and forced the Raiders to kick a FG. Too many bad penalties on jpj this year. Raiders look like they win two more games. Last two games tell you that. We won't have a franchise QB for a couple more years. Drafting Sanders or Ward doesn't mean you found your franchise QB. It just means you have a QB who has potential. Same with Aidan, needs to be CONSISTENT.

[@joshualackey6530]

I wouldnt brag up scott turner just yet. The Raiders have scored a total of 55 points in three games. We haven't had a 20 point game yet with Turner, and the Raiders are stil 0-3 with him as OC

[@BillyDavis-vr2iu]

We still need a quarterback

[@charlesrazo7246]

Not just a QB

[@BillyDavis-vr2iu]

Guards running back wr 1

[@winstonsyme5899]

You think this draft will produce a QB that could be 23-35 for 340 yards and 2 touchdowns with 0 interceptions in KC? No.

[@MidwestRaiderTho]

Definitely need to still draft a QB

[@MidwestRaiderTho]

​@@winstonsyme5899yes

[@matthewj23]

Wouldn't of mattered with Luke Getsy as OC

[@gilbertcastillo4557]

It was getsy fault. The defense already knew the plays.

[@eugene6udavis207]

You blame that on telesco not ap

[@brandonriddlesprigger8754]

Should have been AOC from the jump!!!The old OC had NO CLUE as to what this team does and did well from last year to this year....2nd year is when you make the biggest jump!!!

[@OldManWillie24]

It Wasn't AP's Decision to get Minshew or make him QB1.

[@MichaelG-jj4vi]

No ! Mischew 15 million, O Connell rookie contract I am sure that decision came from above ! Stop with the blame game.

[@frankhernandez6883]

spot on

[@berendoballbomber5977]

O Connell was 4th rd selection by Josh McDaniel's who sat AOC on the bench over Jimmy G so AOC was not ready to play yet. It took him to play behind Minshew to learn how to play then still got injury after his first game. Telesco and AP fired Getsey put in the Turners for AOC which the OC Turners offense worked for AOC but he still got injury. AOC was never ready until Chiefs game he played better. Cut the crap on knocking Raiders front office.

[@Raider_Hi]

It was a bad decision made by AP,TT and LG. AP said in an interview it was a joint decision. TT guaranteed Minshew 15 million and it would have looked bad for him so I think AP was pressured to start Minshew

[@raceroth9419]

you hire guys to give you options for critical situations. Yes, big mistake, but probably better under geotze and lack of blocking. You saw what happen to Minshew.

[@Robert-fs6ge]

AP should have taken the fg. I guess hes trying to get a higher draft pick. BTW the down judge signaled dead ball at the snap on the last play

[@jynx5592]

Tolesco wanted minshew not AP. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@tyrchp1]

Yes

[@constantinojimenez6554]

He would have suffered with getz the O.C., now with Scott Turner shows what a very good O. C. can do for a quarterback. That offensive line, play caller, and can remember the other coach. They were terrible worst hire by raiders.

YES

… but he won't take any responsibility

[@michaelturner3761]

I think AP was pressured by telesco to start minshew because of the money

[@dietrickmcelveen5954]

Good point.

[@raymondsanchez7847]

Management paid for Minshew and wanted him to start

[@emilybaxterthecartoonywitc1805]

I'm convinced AP wanted Aiden as the starter, but Getsy and Telesco pushed Minshew into the starting role and kept him there. It wasn't rocket science to take Brock Bowers after we couldn't move up. So I'm not giving any credit to coupon Tom. Is Herbert good? Yes, but it was Telesco that hired all those horrible coaches for the Chargers as well. The fact that Telesco even signed Minshew to begin with tells you he was lucky with the Herbert pick. So I say fire Telesco and give the GM job to Kelly who should have been the GM to begin with. F Tom Telesco. Let's not forget he also screwed up negotiations with Kliff Kingsbury over a third year and hired Getsy instead. Telesco is a bum

[@davidmckenzie451]

How dare you blame adain

[@jameshollister8294]

The ,2024. Class is coming around except ar15

[@robertdemcher8403]

I said that from the beginning. Minshew IS NOT A STARTING QB. HE'S A BACKUP AT BEST

[@frankhernandez6883]

*Of course he did! Which is why he should be FIRED! Also, letting S McCormick sit for 2 years?* I saw S McCormick play at UTSA several times and he was a BEAST! BAD DECISIONS deserve firing.

[@johantrenier1685]

Pierce was ball-less. He should have stuck with the players that gave him his job. Aidan, Davante. Why you would pay 15 mil for that is beyond me. 75% of Raider nation knows nothing. Get on here and call everyone trash.

[@frankhernandez6883]

HUNTER TOO

[@brandonriddlesprigger8754]

The players weren't set....Look at the tackle...He wasn't even in his stance...

[@raideralexofficial]

The issue too was that the play call was running down as well. Not sure why it took the offense so long to run simple play

[@j.michael]

Those that think it wasn’t AP’s decision….please stop. I coached at the higher levels for years….GMs never make the decision who starts…the HC decides! The HC can ask what the OC and GM think but the final say so is the Head Coach. If the HC is right, he gets all the credit….if it he is wrong, he gets the blame. AP is an alpha type personality….he isn’t going to bend over if he wanted Aiden but was forced to start a $15M (backup level salary) Minshew. Please

[@catsal5073]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@GIGMUSIC-o6z]

Telesco he started Minshew.

[@SouthernOregonReps]

STOP IT!!! Don’t make AOC bigger than he is… a back up! Yes he played well but can he do it every week?

[@commonsense999]

it makes no difference...AOC can only suceed if they have a strong o-line

[@danzemacabre8899]

He succeeded against KC,when the ball gets out quickly it really doesn't matter how well the off. line is pass blocking, and the off.line has and will improve especially with the talented rookies earning their spots during the season

[@deepechmode]

AP needs to be fired asap, when you sit the QB that wont you the job. I think thats called KARMA.

[@coryfeldman-hz2yj]

Go be a jets fan. Instability makes bad teams. Your grammar is atrocious. If you can barely read,.i.doubt you can read a defense, or a PROFESSIONAL SPORTS ORGANIZATION.

[@Navigator001]

I think that Aidan will win at least 3 games out of the last 5, and put us out of contention for a top QB. Telesco's plan is falling apart. He better find a way to put Ridder in there. Or get another Menshit hired to finish the tank.

[@derrickgeer2251]

Ap was forced to start minchew get rid of telesco and marc davis

[@williemurphy2421]

MENSHEW WAS A WASTE OF MONEY! I KNEW THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

[@harveybjackson203]

Raiders Do Not need another QB there are four on the roster

[@angelgallegos3793]

I said this from the beginning of the season. Things would have been different if he would have started AOC we all know that.

[@davidkingraiders7294]

Of course, they should have started O’Connell from the very start They had a formula that they were working on last year and starting to get success with it, and Aiden. O’Connell was a part of that, and was starting to play well towards the end of the season. And then they took that momentum into the off-season But just like the Raiders always do they found a way to kill the momentum by starting Gardner Minshew the same way, they found a way to ruin a playoff team with Derek Carr As a lifelong raider fan that had season tickets in Oakland, I can probably say THE RAIDERS SUCK !!!!!! Year after year, this team does nothing, but let me down

[@LaSinfonia]

It was That wack ass OC that went with Minshew smh

[@berendoballbomber5977]

You have to keep in mind the NFL is fixed by the Referee's it's like the WWF the Worlds Wrestling Federation. The NFL Gambling sources had the odds the Chiefs 12.5 favorites to win. Raiders are 2 wins 10 loses. Chiefs are 11 and 1 so the fix will be made by the referee's if Raiders players mess up like they did. The rookies Aiden claps he said not looking and rookie Powers snaps the ball getting a tap on his butt by right guard. Rookie mistakes will cost you the game. Raiders kicker missed 3 field goals already. The Raiders didn't really want to win that game so the referees did them a favor whistle it a dead ball before the fumble. So it looks good that AP really had won the game his kick if had a chance to make field goal. Has a Raiders fan since 1967 Raiders need to tank to get better QB or trade for one. That whole play was Aiden not paying attention to snap. If I was AP I just play Ridder until end of season let him develop under the Turners. Aiden will have chance to win games next year maybe he come off the bench or start who knows what Telesco has up his future. In the NFL you can't make mistakes but if you do make them make sure your tanking the season like Raiders are now

[@jodymontez693]

AP needs to go! He ruined this year and AOC!😢

[@jameshollister8294]

He gave him a chance the he hot injured .then minshew got injured Aoc will be traded next year too a team with a oline hes goff bradh like

[@adonijahmorningstar493]

That's because the Luke Getsy offense *SUCKED!!!* It didn't work in Chicago, why did they think it would work in Las Vegas!?! *#12 Aiden O'Connell* is the our QB and we do not need to draft another!!! Fire Pierce and give the job to Scott Turner and keep his dad as a consultant! Keep Defensive Coordinator Patrick Graham and draft and sign defensive help!!! Also, *#12 Aiden O'Connell* IS our franchise QB and *YOU* need to stop playing that down!!! Especially since he showed that last year in the final four game, where he threw 8 touchdowns with 0 interceptions!!!

[@zeek3580]

AP is the reason we lost. Wasted that timeout and risked injury, penalty, or turnover to kill 4 or 5 secs? Stupid stupid stupid.

[@coryfeldman-hz2yj]

Ap is the reason we weren't blown out 42-3

[@charlestelk6526]

This is a wasted season. Minshew was not the long term answer. Is O'Connell? - would have been nice to know. However Getsy would have messed him up. This is Raider football. Pound the ball. Smash the QB. HIt some long passes. I'd bring back this entire coaching staff. I think O'Connell had a chance to be a QB1. Would have been nice to have given him a chance this year.

[@peacefulrelaxation7885]

Now if we win 2 or 3 of the next 5 games we are going to have should AOC ber the QB next year.

[@Lastlaugh4442]

Just stop Already he had one good game , he plays kc well

[@yanezedward044]

not how football works....if you pay someone millions to start your not gonna start the thousand dollar guy....

[@Thomas-ze2eu]

I hate 2 say this but I'm glad Munchew is done 4 the rest of......

[@williemurphy2421]

MENSHEW WAS A BAD CALL BY PIERCE. I SAID THAT MONTHS AGO.

[@coryfeldman-hz2yj]

Wow!!! it takes time.to develop a qb!!!! Nfl defenses adapt to wunderkind rookies... Welcome to the nfl know nothing fans. Its 'just win baby' if that's not you, you don't belong here. The analysts say someone else will be better, go be that fan.

[@raceroth9419]

They are dumb, that's all I got.

[@theresaturner8340]

The raider fan are the new whinnying bunch of losers I have ever seen and I thought the 49ers were whiners and u all missed 3 field goals u guys play 17 games and only play to beat the chiefs but don't worry the raiders will be back to playing losing ball next week

[@devekiomontgomery4350]

Gesty wanted minshew for his ability to extend plays.....something that AOC not all that great

[@fernandoubence4778]

How did that work out for him stupid not starting AOC

[@danzemacabre8899]

If you have to continually extend the play ,that means you have a bad play caller or a quarterback who struggles to read his progressions.

[@ObliviouslyGifted]

YOU SHOULD JUST MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT HOW YOU NICKNAMED YOUR SECKS DOLL....AOC!!!!

[@David-lo2gq]

Let me put my tin foil hat on. The raiders knew that getsy was a terrible hire. They hired him so they can lose games and set themselves up for a qb in the draft. Getsy would then get fired after losing games.