Anvil Atlas Full Review - After a year of using this fly tying vice - McFly Angler Reviews

[@aaronlambert8151]

Good video, just wanted to add something regarding rotation tension discussion at around 7:15. I recently got this vice and I really like it. Out of the box, I noticed a little bit of play in the rotation of the vice, you could turn the handle about 5 degrees before the jaws followed in the same direction. I'm in the UK and this vice is much more expensive than the US, so I was disappointed because the engineering tolerances weren't what I'd hoped for. I contacted the shop where I bought it to ask if this was normal and they gave me a fix: 1. Unscrew the knurled tension adjuster off the very back. Take it all the way off. it comes right out with no risk of parts falling off. It's just a bolt with a rubber grommet. 2. Loosen but don't remove the three hex bolts where the turning handle is located. No need to remove the handle itself. When you do this you'll see all tension disappear from the vice. 3. Compress the fit of the connection between the back of the vice and the stem holding the jaws. Just do it with your hands - no forcing or exertion required, just make sure all the parts are as closely located as the can be. 4. Re-tighten the hex bolts and make sure they're secure - no need to crank on them, just make sure they're secure. 5. Replace the tension screw at the back. Not only did this fix the issue I had with play in rotation, it also made the tension screw work slightly more effectively. Maybe it's my imagination but it lessened any sign of stiff spot during rotation, possibly because the tensioner works more effectively. I did have a little stiff spot but not as pronounced as in the video so YMMV. Those three hex bolts are the key to this. Underneath one of them is a pin which secures the back of the vice to the rotating shaft. This isn't very clear in the instruction manual. You're mostly led to believe that these are just blanking screws to cover holes that allow you to re-position the turning handle. My vice shipped with all screws in place but not cinched down very tightly and that's where the play came from. Making that one small adjustment has improved a lot of aspects of how the vice operates. It's rock solid now. I was considering sending mine back until I did that. Sorry to ramble on - just thought it might help someone in a similar situation. :)

[@McFlyAngler]

If someone gets this and had the same issue I am sure they will benefit from your fix. Thanks!

[@usarmyguardsman]

Thanks for the video. I had my atlas vice for about three years now and tied a wide range of flies on it. I really enjoy the vice and the fact that is a true rotary vice. I like everything about the vice except the part when rotating it isn't the same amount of resistance all the way around. It has a bit of a loose spot going counterclockwise. I don't particularly like it because it doest feel as smooth all the way around. That is my only complain about the vise though.

[@McFlyAngler]

It does seem like quality control isn’t best. I’ve had different issues than some others. I have a renzetti now. The traveler. Every one I’ve used is great. No issues with any of them.

[@usarmyguardsman]

@@McFlyAngler do you recommend the renzetti over the atlas? I was thinking about the stonfo elite. any thoughts?

[@McFlyAngler]

@@usarmyguardsman Well, the Renzetti for sure is better made in my opinion. I find it wonderful for flies from 2/0-30. Yes, I tie down to 30 with it. But if you plan on tying larger flies go with a Peak, similar to the Renzetti but heftier jaws. Not as good for smaller flies though. So if you plan on going small, go Renzetti, large the peak. Thats my recommendation. I have not had experience with the stonfo vice, however most of what I have used of theirs is good quality so im sure its great. If you go Renzetti, make sure its the cam version. The other one isn't as good.

[@JorgenSaether]

you people need to adjust the screws correctly and your rotary vice will rotate smooth. i had the same issues , but use the tools that came with the vice and take time to find out how it works :)

[@McFlyAngler]

Ok

[@henryschmidt636]

I tie bass and snook flies up to 2/0. Never a problem with the hooks not resting in the groves. Mines an original Anvil made before they were bought out by Wolfe. Nothing better than Anvil scissors and they were always made by Wolfe.

[@McFlyAngler]

The vice I had, had many problems. I didn’t like it honestly. Many parts broke on it in just a few short years. I upgraded to renzetti and couldn’t be happier

[@petercielenski3290]

Good video. Thanks for posting. I own this vise and agree, it’s a great vise for the money. I thought a few of your comments were a bit nit picky for a $150 vise. If you want perfection and a vise that is flawless, you definitely need to spend the $500+ for a high end Renzetti or comparable vise. Honestly, the biggest complaint I have with this vise is the lack of a bobbin cradle. The other cons you mentioned are not deal breakers IMO. I’d definitely recommend this vise.

[@McFlyAngler]

Well I now have a $180 renzetti (traveler) and love it. Great vice. Really no issues.

[@tj-fk4vw]

I have been using the same vise for the past 2 years. It does have the same issues with the jaws. They could do a better job of machining the jaws to get a flush fit. I have placed small shims between the jaws and the collet and this helps in closing the gap between the jaws which make the jaws clamp hook sizes 18 and smaller much better.

[@McFlyAngler]

Well that’s a cool fix. How do you come up with that one? Glad it worked for you man. Now that being said I don’t expect device to be perfect though at the price point it is. So much is good with this vice, I really have no major problems with it. However I did switch over to a renzetti now because I am tying many more small flies than I am large...

[@tj-fk4vw]

@@McFlyAngler I found a better fix for the jaw gap. I purchased Hillman

[@hm2mahoney]

Good video if you ever get in a mess with the superglue again nail polish remover will dissolve the glue (acetone)

[@McFlyAngler]

+hm mahoney good to hear maybe I can get this whole vice to start working again

[@guyrivest5876]

Just to let you know, I have exactly the same bugs (jaws & groove, material clip, uneven tension when rotating and the handle coming loose) and mine has got a machining defect that in my opinion is a beginner's fault: the threaded holes (4 of them) for attaching the handle were bored out of line with the center axis of body; in other words, the handle is always slightly crooked from the body. Now that does not reflect good workmanship and precision and living in Canada I just tought it would have been too costly to return it. But, like you say, in that price category it is one very good vise.

[@McFlyAngler]

Yeah, thanks for confirming my idea's about the vice. And wow! That is crazy yours has that off center issue. Personally, I'm happy with my new Renzetti, and I wish I just spent the extra $20 in the first place for it. LOL

[@genelangston7194]

Watched your review of the Anvil Atlas (now the Wulff Atlas) and thought it pretty well covered the main aspects of the vise. A couple of things; first, the jaw and the straight grooves to hold larger hooks. They're straight because they have to be this way. It's impossible to drill a curved hole in the jaw. With two piece jaws, you could. Not with a one piece. Also, for super gluing your vise shut...were it mine, I'd remove the jaw and apply heat to where to super glue impedes the bolt removal. You don't want to get the jaws too hot,, but if you can remove them, you've got it made. Even if you can't remove the jaw, a judicious application of flame being careful to not de-temper the jaw, turn the broken bolt with pliers when heated, and you should be good to go. I've got the Apex vise and it's a good vise for what it is.

[@McFlyAngler]

Thanks for the tips. So you are saying the dyna king vices are two peace? They have a curved groove.

[@brianbergstrom7464]

I have this same vice and agree with what you said. I have had it since it came out. The jaws can be tricky and just the other day my rotary function is no longer smooth. There are stiff and loose spots. I have probably tied several hundred flies with it at this point.

[@McFlyAngler]

Thousands of flies on my part, and yeah, I know whatcha mean...

[@brianbergstrom7464]

McFly Angler I just took mine apart and fixed the rotary issue. The top set Allen screw has an adjustable pin. I actually removed all three but the top is the important one. Remove the rear tension knob and tap out the metal shavings. Mine had a lot. When you readjust the top allen screw with pin make sure you pull it towards the rear tension knob and the tighten. It fixed mine so it is smooth like new but we will see how long it lasts.

[@McFlyAngler]

Oh thats awesome you know how to do all that. I sold mine a while back, and was fine with just getting a different vice. I now have a Renzetti trawler, and I am very happy with it.

[@joeduca8582]

Awesome channel, awesome comments, awesome review! 👍😎 Thanks Shawn!

[@McFlyAngler]

+Joe Duca thank you jJe!

[@McFlyAngler]

+McFly Angler Joe.... sorry autocorrect

[@joeduca8582]

McFly Angler lol mine does that alot!

[@anhatur]

I had to search up solvents for removing superglue, and acetone is recommended. It's a pretty aggressive solvent so use in a well ventilated area. For securing screws there´s a product for that as well, so ask at a hardware store. It's a glue that you add to the screw before you put it back in, and if you want to remove it you can melt it with heat. But I have a question: If you screw the rotary handle to the opposite side of the vice, wouldn't it balance better? It would take some time getting used to, I guess, you shouldn't need so much force that way.

[@McFlyAngler]

I’m not sure about the handle and position, give it a try and see if you like it. As for the glue, it’s called locktite I believe

[@tj-fk4vw]

I cut small strips about 1/8 inch wide and about 1/4 long and put one on each side and the jaws of the vise between the jaw and collet and bent over the strip over the collet. It does not look pretty but it works. I used the pull top from a peanut or a cashew can. It is aluminum and thin enough to cut with scissors and bend easily. Which Renzetti did you get? I am thinking of getting an HMH vise because it looks like they have a nice set of midge jaws. I tie many flies size 18 to 26 and am thinking of experimenting with another vise. With the aluminum shims in the vice, the Atlas will securely hold a 26 hook. Without the shims, the vice would not hold a 26 hook but would hold a 24 or 22 as long as I put extreme tension on the vice. With the shims, i can get the jaws to close with no gaps and can put less pressure on the clamping lever.

[@unaffiliated4]

Thanks for this and your other videos. I went ahead and bought a Wolff Indiana Atlas even after watching this video. It seems that most of the issues you've had with it are due to an unusally large amount of superglue spilling into it and then being left to dry. I was concerned about the hook size limitations you indicated but then watched a rebuttal to this video that clearly shows the Atlas holding a wide range of hook sizes. To me, that was one of several factors that set the Atlas apart from the Peak. I really didn't want to have to buy extra jaws for extra large hooks. I bought it figuring if it wouldn't hold the advertised hook sizes, I'd return it under Jann's Netcraft's 30 return policy. Fortunately, I'm happy to say that won't be necessary. The Atlas holds hooks from dinky 20-22 nymph size to oversize 5/0 3x O'Shaugnessy saltwater hooks just fine if you are careful to position the hooks in the jaws correctly and adjust the collet correctly. The difference in a hook held well and slipping can be a very small adjustment on the collet collar knurled nut. For my normal uses up to size 1/0 the Atlas will be fine, but I like knowing that I can tie very large bucktail striper jigs on it as well. The rotary feature is nice for those big jigs since you're just wrapping a lot of heavy thread or even braid around them. And the ability to lock the vise separately from the tension knob in any position is nice for tying on the bottom or sides of a fly while always having the work directly in front of you without having to peer over or around. BTW, if you are having trouble keeping the materials clip where you want it on the arm, a 50 cent hose clamp below it solves that. I haven't had that issue but expect to when I get into articulated flies. As for your loose crank handle either teflon tape or pipe dope should take care of that. For that matter some of your super glue or head cement might solve it, too. The Atlas isn't perfect, but I'm pleased with mine for $150. You could pay a lot more for less function (like the Regal Medallion bronze pedetal base that I wanted until sticker shock.)

[@McFlyAngler]

Im glad it works for you. Again, I loved my vice, its a great vice. Just there were a few things that bothered me. Yes, most of the issues had to do with Super Glue dripping. Nice idea about the hose clamp. Good thinking. I also heard that they fixed some of the issues with the recent ones. The vice is a bit smoother now, and the jaws are a bit different and able to hold. When I opened mine, the vice jaws were slightly off center. I ended up having to bend them a bit to get them back on center. That could have been the issues with not holding the tiny hooks. I mean, it held them, but there wasnt a ton of room to work on. Also, I could get any size hook to hold at one point with the vice, but some sizes just took a bit more playing with, which takes more time. Again, this was not to knock this vice, I think its an awesome vice for the money. However, I like to try and show people the good and bad about items. Glad you like yours, and I am positive you will have it for a very long time! Its solid for sure, and probably (unless you blow up a bottle of glue on it) will last a lifetime.

[@borderreiver1806]

Nah they are common .. just tollerance issues

[@jimliechty2983]

Hi ....do you still have this vise and currently using it?

[@McFlyAngler]

No I don’t, I use the renzetti traveler 2200 now.

[@rangotango290]

I was wondering if you had tried the Peak vise. It's about the same price point. I was looking at both vises. I was leaning towards the Anvil, but the Peak has more ($) options. With regards to the cyanoacrylate glue, I believe there are solvents that can help. I read that acetone can be used. You also might try and heat the glued area. Heat usually loses the glue's integrity. You might try some Locktite on the handle that keeps turning lose. Super glue seems a little extreme and the plumber's tape you're referring to is teflon tape (I believe).

[@McFlyAngler]

I haven't tried the peak, but the jaws are just too rounded for some of the smaller flies I tie. It will work great for flies that are larger than size 12 I think... But the small midges I tie for the san juan will get swallowed up by the jaws with such a rounded tip... For a vice about the same price (a little more) the Renzetti trailer is quite awesome! I bought it recently, and love it! I think its $169 or so... And honestly its the best I've used. I have had no problem holding size 1/0 hooks, and it holds size 26 just fine as well. Here is a link to it. Check it out, I think you will be happy with the vice. amzn.to/2z3FTaQ

[@rangotango290]

Understood, but I believe you can get midge jaws for the vise ($).

[@McFlyAngler]

Yes you can, but once you get the 2nd pair of jaws, then you are above the cost of a Renzetti... And, ill be honest, the Renzetti is better. It will hold the hook well (literally I can bend the hook in half before it slips) and you don't have to change out the jaws each time you tie a different fly. I can go from size 26 to size 1/0 immediately.. I am sure I can use a larger hook in it, just haven't tried yet. So, for me, I would rather the Renzetti. But thats just me. I think I've heard decent things about the peak, so you will probably be happy with it. I think though you would be ecstatic with a Renzetti after using it a few times...

[@taliesinangling3564]

Hey, the steel head are spawning in wisconsin we might be heading up there it is a great place. I caught a salmon in my video if you want to see it. You should think about going up there.

[@McFlyAngler]

+Mn Angling I would love to, but it's tough to make far trips right now and leave my family for extended time. I just had a daughter like 5 weeks ago...

[@taliesinangling3564]

Oh yes, I forgot about that. Congrats!

[@McFlyAngler]

Thank you!

[@bigpapi3636]

Thanks for the informative video. Also some excellent public comments. I'm in the market so this helps a lot!

[@McFlyAngler]

+Big Papi for the money it's a pretty good vice. Renzetti makes a great one also.

[@wvlongshooter3912]

I have thus vise but it’s from fly fish food and it’s called JMC pro. The jaws are now somewhat bent I guess. I think I’ll order new ones from the Atlas company. Thanks for the review, I think it’s an ok vise.

[@McFlyAngler]

It’s a decent vise yeah. Not sure about the JMC pro, not seen that. I can’t say whether or not the parts are interchangeable either. So proceed with caution and research. I currently have a renzetti that I’ve now had for about 4 years and love it. Put over 100k flies through it already (I tie a lot of flies) and it’s never failed me yet. Still works. I did chip the tip of the jaws off once a long time ago but it’s still going strong and it has not effected the functioning.

[@wvlongshooter3912]

@@McFlyAngler Thanks!!!! They look identical.. For $22 you can get a set of jaws. I may order it. I emailed Devon Olsen about finding jaws but he hasn’t emailed me back yet. He’s ready good about responding to emails. I have trouble tying size 26-30’s on this vise. I’m thinking about getting a different vise. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks!!!

[@wvlongshooter3912]

I may try a Renzetti as well. Thanks.

[@McFlyAngler]

I can tie a size 30 on the renzetti traveler I own. Yes the jaws are too rounded on this one in the video for tiny flies.

[@wvlongshooter3912]

@@McFlyAngler hello, just wanted to let ya know that if anyones needs jaws for a jmc pro vise, Wolff industries Atlas vise looks identical to the jmc and the jaws are interchangeable. I ordered a set fir $20 and they work perfectly!!! I’m sure other parts would be the same too.

[@americanfisherman9781]

Enjoyed the review. I want to upgrade my present vice and I've been comparing this with Peak fishing's rotary vice.

[@McFlyAngler]

It’s a good vice for sure, what size flies you usually tie?

[@americanfisherman9781]

I don't tie below 20's, mainly because my current budget vice is inadequate. I would like to tie between the range or 14's and 24's.

[@McFlyAngler]

Get a renzetti then. It will handle the smaller hooks better, all the way up to about 2 comfortably but can handle 2/0.... The anvil is better with larger hooks... size 6/0-16 or so. But can handle the small ones, just not as well as the renzetti. I have the renzetti traveler and I’ve tied down to size 30 pretty easily on it.

[@caniaccharlie]

Very nice, fair review! I think I got my Atlas just before your first video popped up on it. I can't disagree with anything you've said pro or con, you were spot on. Although, rotating mine just now and I don't notice a stiff spot in the rotation or a loose spot. I'm guessing yours has a bur or something slightly out of round. My jaws line up as perfectly as my eyes can see. I've tied a few patterns on big 1/0 saltwater hooks, like you said, it takes a little tinkering to get the hook in the grooves. I've only tied as small as a 16 dry fly hook with no issues. This vise does seen built like a tank, but even then I get paranoid about breaking my jaws or the locking mechanism and sometimes put the hooks in a little loose lol.

[@McFlyAngler]

+Charlie Wilson yeah not sure why mine rotates weirdly. However I will say, mine was an "anvil atlas" made by Wolff industries. I got it on discount. Maybe it was wolff's first attempt at it and fixed the issues? Not sure. I bought mine for $119... they are usually in the $150 range right now. So maybe my issues have to do with just that.

[@caniaccharlie]

McFly Angler From what I have read in the past, Wolf always made the vise for Anvil. Have you ever contacted Wolf? They're supoosed to be pretty good about dealing with any issues.

[@McFlyAngler]

+Charlie Wilson no I never did. I guess that's what it was then, I bought one made by Wolff for Anvil...

[@andyzamboknee]

Has Wolff gotten in touch with you after this video?

[@McFlyAngler]

No, they haven't. No one in the fly fishing/tying industry cares about my channel. I dont get products for free, or even at a discount. They literally refuse to talk with me, even though I get 100k views/month. You would think they would want to advertise. But oh well. Almost all things on my channel are payed for by me, at full price. LOL

[@tj-fk4vw]

I found a better fix for getting the jaws to hold a small hook. Hillman brass finishing washers at Lowes are made for counter sunk screws and are thin and flexible. I used a Dremel tool to widen the hole, then ground off the outer edge since the washer had a larger diameter than the collet in the vise. I took the jaws out of the vise and installed the washer on the neck of the jaw then reassembled the vise. Since the washer is bent for a counter sink and also thin and flexible, it will conform to the shape of the collet and the back of the jaws when you tighten the vise. I am now able to hold sizes to 24 securely. I feel it will now hold sized 28s or 30s but I do not have any at this size to test.

[@McFlyAngler]

Cool! I ended up getting a renzetti... haha. Works great!

[@tj-fk4vw]

@@McFlyAngler I bought an HMH vise with midge jaws and it is great for small flies. I bought it before I figured out my fix for the Atlas vise. The Atlas vise now holds a hook as well as the HMH vise. I like the HMH vise better for small flies because I can put the jaws at a high angle.

[@kubaz8702]

Thank you for the video, quick question that you may be able to enlighten me on. If you were a euro nympher that only ties size 8-18 hooks for euro nymphs. Would you select this vice or the Renzetti Traveler?

[@McFlyAngler]

Renzetti by far!

[@kubaz8702]

@@McFlyAngler Wow ok thank you very much for that.

[@McFlyAngler]

Yeah. I own the renzetti now and love it.

[@kubaz8702]

@@McFlyAngler Yeah I actually watched both videos but wasnt really sure figured you'd be the man to ask about this. Its hard to make a choice when you dont have it in front of you but the Renzetti definitely has awesome ratings and many people love it. Thank you again.

[@McFlyAngler]

Yeah man. The peak also is good. And if I didn’t think I’d tie below 20 I’d get that because it is cheaper. But the renzetti is just a little better for smaller stuff.

[@MrAndryguitar]

Very helpfoul review

[@McFlyAngler]

Thank you

[@theoutdoorangler1173]

Nice tie man

[@McFlyAngler]

+TheOutdoorAngler lol thanks!

[@nickwilliams309]

Just FYI - It's not Anvil anymore, it's Wolff Indiana now.

[@McFlyAngler]

Yes, you are correct. When I purchased it, it was called "Anvil Atlas" but it was made by Wolff which is weird. But yeah. Thanks! :)

[@sef53591]

Question about red eyes on flies is it depicting that it is a wounded Bait fish with head trauma

[@McFlyAngler]

+steve fuhrman yes red eyes can mimic a dying baitfish. I just don't exclusively use red eyes. Sometimes I do sometimes I don't

[@sef53591]

thank you so much

[@McFlyAngler]

No problem. :)

[@rickbischke2589]

You could probably use a super glue solvent to free up you vise and get it operating properly again.

[@McFlyAngler]

Cool thanks.

[@SmallBoreOutdoors]

Is it a 3/8" stem?

[@elkhair7]

GingerInTheMist Yes. Going into a 7/16 sleeve. Read my reply above.

[@borderreiver1806]

100% , same problem annoys me about jaws .. I primarily tie from 1/0 down to 18 .. was even looking for aftermarket .. LAW style jaws or shape .. rotary function has defiantly picked up some slack both up down and longitudinal ,to the point as with you hard to tighten the shaft .. that I cured with an old style tap washer bored out to give added friction .. the "O" ring fell out a long time ago. The small "T" studs with the plastic handles .. well they mostly gave up the ghost a while ago , I cured that with bedding new studs spot welded with wire and into a resin cast and rudimentary shaping .. Material clip ,,, grrr , that I wound some Kevlar tying thread around shaft up near top where you were pointing out ,then placed clip with a couple wraps through the coils .. then superglued .. works fine now, stays put .. The small handle coming loose is also a hair in butt for me , I used thread locker , not the permanent stuff but easy to remove if necessary with small pliers (Loctite Blue).. As for moving around , I have and brew my own hard resin tying wax .. so I have plenty cobblers brew and decided to put a dab of softened wax and bedded onto bench .. easy to move off if you need to and re stick by heating /softening wax with lighter and plunking it down .. As with you , I'd class this as a intermediate /unpretentious entry level rotary , for the workman like types.. good solid rotary vice for the budget minded ..

[@McFlyAngler]

Yeah seems like a lot of work to get the vice to preform. Haha! I now have a renzetti and love it, no issues for years on that thing. Tied 1000’s of flies on it.

[@borderreiver1806]

@@McFlyAngler yea must have inherited bit of the tinker .. not expensive fixes/mods .. fine tuning more than anything .. jaws and lack of grip are the primary hair in the assets, and a common complaint ..

[@McFlyAngler]

Yeah, like I said, my renzetti came out of the box ready to use and works great. No complaints, and its not much more expensive. Lots of people say their Peak also works great. I mean I liked this vice a lot, it was well built, but just those small problems you are discussing made it frustrating to say the least.

[@mikewhisky9605]

lock tite for the threads -- nail polish remover for the stupid glue.

[@oldrudedog]

the handle that keeps coming off. Put a dab of clear fingernail polish on the threads then screw it in, that should help.

[@McFlyAngler]

Thanks

[@Timothy-mz5bd]

What are your favourite vices ?

[@McFlyAngler]

Right now all I use is the renzetti. It’s great for all hooks up to about 2/0, after that size a dynaking is probably best. However, with the renzetti I can tie down to size 32 and have.

[@Timothy-mz5bd]

@@McFlyAngler which model renzetti ?

[@McFlyAngler]

The traveler 2000 series. They have the 2200, 2300, etc. All of them are great! Just make sure its the cam operated one. Here is a link to the exact one I have. amzn.to/36fjLPT

[@Timothy-mz5bd]

@@McFlyAngler is the traveller not abit light ?

[@McFlyAngler]

Huh? Sorry I don’t understand the question

[@bigron8346]

I've used alot of different types of vises and all of them twist and move to the point of aggravation

[@McFlyAngler]

LOL yes, there are always problems with each one.

[@bigron8346]

You need to check out Captain Quinn utube channel he takes a block of wood traces out a pair vise grips and cuts it out with a chainsaw the vice never moves and works great... Check him out

[@McFlyAngler]

I have seen his vids, he is funny. I like his channel for sure!

[@bradgajewski4867]

Thread locker put some loctite on it

[@Graham-1888]

Jaw tips are far too brittle, fine when your bigger hooks are set back into the jaws but smaller hooks set in the tip it's only a matter of time before they break as has happened to many Anvil vice owners myself included. I got rid of mine and would never buy an Anvil again, if you tie smaller than a 14 avoid these Anvil vices like the plague.

[@McFlyAngler]

Yeah I have a renzetti now and love it. Can tie down to 30 with room

[@Graham-1888]

@@McFlyAngler can't go much wrong with a Renzetti, I had the traveller and tied 8/0 pike plies right down to size 18 dries...obviously you can go smaller if your eyes are good enough to see them 🤓 I'm no using a Regal Medallion with stainless steel jaws and an HMH TRV and I'm delighted with both. Great channel BTW 👏👍

[@McFlyAngler]

Glad you like the channel, thanks. Yeah I have a traveler also.

[@JOBAHT]

Super glue can be removed with aceton.

[@McFlyAngler]

Thanks

[@fernandomiron7557]

👍

[@McFlyAngler]

Thank you

[@Flyrod10]

Use a soldering iron or heat gun to break the super glue bond

[@McFlyAngler]

Thanks for the tip. I’ve already gotten rid of the vice thoygh

[@elkhair7]

Do not buy this vise. It is incorrectly machined. The stem has way to much slack to prohibit movement. The C-Clamp is fine, but using the base is horrible as it wobbles a good 3-4mm. If Wolff put another lug in the stem base or machined the stem to be larger or the stem base smaller it would be a great vise. Mine is headed back to the dealer.

[@McFlyAngler]

Mine didn’t have that problem but mine was made 2 years ago, they could have started to skip corners.

[@elkhair7]

Just heard back from Wolff. Customer service guy says he has heard of the problem repeatedly from other customers, but the person in charge refuses to modify the vise. Time to cough up the extra 50 and get a Renzetti.

[@lennierichardson1387]

Vise

[@McFlyAngler]

+Lennie Richardson there was a long drawn out argument in the forums about whether its with an s or a c... the conclusion came that it totally depends on where you live. Some places call it vice others Vise. Lol.

[@davidaguiar1387]

Go back to your Renzetti Traveler

[@McFlyAngler]

This was before the renzetti man... haha!

[@davidaguiar1387]

@@McFlyAngler Ah, that explains it. My Bad. I should have compared the publishing dates. FWIW, I've owned both vises and found allot of the same shortfalls (+ a few more) with the Atlas. I have yet to find anything I really dislike about my (C-clamp, 2000 series) traveler. The amzing thing is that they cost just about the same $.

[@McFlyAngler]

Yeah! One downfall for the renzetti is for large (heafty weighted wire) hooks. There are times I have trouble getting them in. Other than that (which I don’t tie often) I have had no issues with my renzetti.