Anvil Hornet F7-S Ghost & F7-R Tracker | A Star Citizen's First Look

[@teknoaxe]

I'm so early, my youtube resolution went back in time to 2006

[@leperamoonwalker5883]

Same no idea why specifically on this video

[@SubliminaLstv]

Looks like YT is struggling. I gave it hours to process but only SD is done...

[@puretalent5940]

@@SubliminaLstv I was wondering the same thing. I'm glad I checked comments. thx!

[@GW2Vids1]

Still the issue for me

[@Godwinsname]

Yep same..

[@propelledchuck6815]

Thank goodness the resolution finally uploaded. It was like watching the Paul vs. Tyson fight all over again.

[@SubliminaLstv]

ROFL, that was terrible. And all that to watch a fight that was extremely cringe.

[@Ron-Tag]

Think this is the first video on the mk2 hornet variants ive seen. Everyone is still staring at the polaris! So, thanks for the upload Subliminal

[@And-c7n]

Always felt the tracker should be a two seater with pilot gunner plus an electronic warfare officer

[@SubliminaLstv]

This would be nice.

[@jeffreylee123]

Feels like that'd just end up like the scorpius antares situation all over again.

[@blackberrys9321]

Missing the super mk2

[@ryeaye2278]

something like the raptors from battlestar gallactica

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

I can see it work in a single pilot configuration, afterall you're not doing intense maneuvering and operating the radar at the same time (or even doing that much fighting because you have a fat sensor profile on your back). Considering sensors' difficulty penetrating asteroid fields, then, if you're in a wolf pack trying to worm out someone hiding in it, it's thrice better to have two pilots in trackers looking at two different sides of the field over one superhornet fit with the same in place of the gunner turret.

[@InterstellarTaco]

Nose camera looks like an IRST similar to what the Mig 29 or SU27 has. And if the tracker has a big ass radar on it with the intent if being a sort of Space AWACS it's going to have a massive EM signature so it makes sense.

[@velocitymg]

R for Reconnaissance maybe ?

[@Bladescorpion83]

Yup

[@FN1980a]

@0:57 If they ever make an physical scale model with lights and stuff this is where the Micro-USB port for the battery charging will be placed =)

[@Gwydion_Wolf]

The thing on the top of the Tracker is literally a enhanced radar similar to what the Terrapin has. That thing on the nose does have the potential to be a camera... they are playing around with Cameras and Videos with the Polaris mirrors that are created by using a in-game camera that then displays what it sees.

[@jspades007]

I like how the R has extra antenna on the nose and along the tail. Small but subtle recon/ e-war vibes.

[@zantrag]

Flame and sparks completely hide the target ship in combat. That must be a "rule of fool" thing, but is detrimental to combat.

[@SubliminaLstv]

I don't think its intended. I bet someone slid a slider and adjusted a value and didn't know it would change our weapons lol. Hope they fix it soon.

[@ShadowOfHistory-wn1xh]

@@SubliminaLstv It's been like this for most of 2024.

[@SubliminaLstv]

@@ShadowOfHistory-wn1xh Ah, I haven't used ballistics since I need to test weapons for the loadouts on my website. But that was back in june so no way most of 2024 but close.

[@davotradingni7335]

The beam has been seriously reduced

[@YouCountSheep]

EM and IR is high because the quantum drive is always on when spawning for some reason

[@stinkratgaming]

I wish they would just finally make it so that ship have a base chassis and all variants of that chassis are a "kit" that you can swap out/install instead of needing to buy separately

[@UnpluggedCord]

Like the Battle Upgrade Kits or BUK for short of the Vanguard series?

[@Velthus]

Yeah that'd be nice.. but unfortunately never gonna happen.

[@_Hylke]

That was possible with the hornet mk1 so I am sure the mk2 will work the same, if it doesn't already. You used to be able to change the bit on top to the tracker dome or more hard points.

[@recoandmidnight1555]

Ooooh it’s about time someone finally goes in-depth of the new hornets

[@MrExoticViper]

@5:05 I'm forever a part of your channel! 😂

[@SubliminaLstv]

ROFL

[@JamestheKilljoy]

That sound design is so friggin good. They need to make another pass on the interfaces fo sure tho

[@0Rosix0]

To decrease signatures, wouldn't you want to cut power to things like weapons/shields/engines and keep it on the coolers? "silent running"

[@SubliminaLstv]

Kinda but also no. Try turning off a cooler what happens, first there is a massive drop in IR. If you have sufficient cooling with that you've just reduced your sig. Keep turning off coolers and you will hit a point where one can't handle the load. So the same thing happens, massive drop in IR and then the IR starts to rise slowly up till your like super nova lol. I should make a video on it. But yeah one stealth class coooler, pp, and shield would be as low as possible. I found stealth class components with mil spec shields works good and doesn't sacrafice much defense.

[@legion6712]

@SubliminaLstv read what he said again. He said turn OFF shields/weapons/QT but keep coolers ON. He doesn't mean removing them but rather turn them off in power management. He's correct. That is silent running and will reduce emissions.

[@paratrooperz1]

i do love learn mark2 variants are interchangeable across the gambit

[@solomonmitchell6048]

These ships are going to sell like hot cakes!

[@dunkyl]

Miss the blue livery of the mk I f7c-r

[@adrianslater9127]

I just came here to say reconnaissance version but I'm probably 20 minutes late on that now

[@unloyal4847]

Honestly the ballstic repeaters need a buff again, its quite weak and the ammo count is abysmal.

[@gambler1ish]

I haven't been able to find any info on this anywhere but with the releases of these new f7 mk2 variants are they gold standard now with all the component access etc or is it still just ship as you see it?

[@SubliminaLstv]

Nope, I actually checked on this when recording but I got sidetracked. It was 3am and my ADHD meds had run their course. But anyway no goldstandard... surprising. I have heard that engineering is pushed because of how many ships will need to be brought up to at least the level where you can manually swap components.

[@gambler1ish]

@@SubliminaLstv Damn, thanks for the quick reply too :) A shame seems like a missed opportunity really to kill several birds with one stone.

[@MisterFoxton]

Yeah there was no way CIG could get engineering ready in this timeframe. Adding physical components has been historically slow over the years and they'll need to do it for every single ship. Plus they need at least to figure out armour for engineering as well, which we've heard nothing about. I'm not we'll see it next year either.

[@PanicSwitched]

I think they mentioned the expectation was needing to do some manual work if you wanted to be truly stealthy. So things like reducing power to shields would be needed to reduce signature.

[@karmabad6287]

I like the paint on the tracker

[@Cornerboy73]

I think I'll just keep my F7A; these are interesting features I guess but I'd rather just have the extra firepower.

[@SubliminaLstv]

And use the funds you get from blowing shit up with it to buy these if the tracker module or stealth module get a sure thing use case. And just use them for the components.

[@sharpknifetv]

They've changed things. The F7A turrets are getting locked the the F7A and won't be transferable

[@lordfraybin]

Curious what the detection range on the tracker is, compared to a regular hornet.

[@UnpluggedCord]

I'm so pissed they removed the top mfds in my mk1 ghost. They probably conflicted readability of hemlet visor hud, but still. @SubliminaLstv question for you, I have f8c and f7a mk2 already, what would be a valid reason(s) for upgrading my mk1 ghost to a mk2? I may end up keeping it as a mk1 'collector classic' like how some car people hold onto 60yr old cars. The only reasons I can think of are: 1. Larger wing hardpoints for theoretically be higher alpha dmg? Ie deadbolt ballistic cannons for trying to 1shot. 2. Higher balistic ammo counts when using ballistic gatlings ie revenant gatlings seems like a very nice improvement. 3. Larger ship component (I think Powerplant is 1xs2 instead of 1xs1?)

[@DublinOdinson]

Waited 50 minutes and still only have a 360p resolution. Guess im watching this one on my phone.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Damn sorry fixed now a couple of hours later. YT kinda boned me.

[@btr003]

I wonder.. if you have a Ghost in your hangar already and have the F7A MK2 upgrade token, would you be able to upgrade your Ghost to a new Ghost? That might be nice. I was never interested in upgrading the default Hornet.

[@Paradox3713]

What size is that radar on top, and how did you get access to them? are they being sold in the PTU?

[@TheRealHubeau]

video seem to cut short. Also, (and I know this is kind of a lot to ask) but if possible I'd love to see a MK1 vs MK2 for ghost given the same goal (stealth)

[@Whoadayson]

Forgive my ignorance but howd you get your hands on the F7A. I mustve missed something now that Ive been offline much more often. I like that black camo paint, is that a paint and if I can acquire it (grey) will it apply to the F7A?

[@bootchoo96]

You can/could get both F7A Mk1 and Mk2

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

F7A MK1 if you had the veterans token thing from like 10 years ago. Very few people have it. And the F7A MKII there was an event and if you completed it, you got the chance to buy the F7A MKII in the store.

[@Whoadayson]

@@michaelmichaelagnew8503Thx. I found out about the event, but was still a little lost. Appreciate your info!

[@calculuspi2070]

Not sure if it was mentioned, but it looks as if the video was cut short at the end?

[@MMORPG87]

been waiting on this one

[@DoubleYouRandyBe]

What should i do know wirh my poor MKI Ghost?😢

[@SANTATRUCKS5507]

i never lose my f7a parts i put on my ghost you have to take the off in you hanger store them then repair your f7a theb those parts are diffrent and want disapeare after saving to your ghost load out

[@velocitymg]

Later builds you may possibly be able to craft turrets for Hornets with blueprints

[@gigagoose_gaming]

Wouldn’t be nice if that sensor on the nose allowed you track quantum signatures.

[@wildcard328]

hi subliminal. i have a question, i have all the old f7's and the base f7c mk 2. i have been holding on the old version because they are still in the game just not for sell. and i was wandering if CIG is going to rerelease them bigger and Badder? should i upgrade all the old f7's or wait and see what CIG will do with them?

[@SubliminaLstv]

I would wait. They may discontinue them and they could gain value on the gray market in the event you'd want to sell them. Maybe just buy the F7A if you want a new one and then buy the others in game if you want their unique components to put on the F7a.

[@papagoose1979]

I want that ghost in my hangar NOW.

[@corvoadam5598]

Since most of my fighters are stealth this thing would ruin my day, mind testing it aginst stealth ship?

[@mjones1665]

We're going to have Mk IV variants before the game goes to Beta ... 🤑🤑🤑

[@boxofcannons600]

I need to find a single crew fighter that I like that doesn’t cost $300.

[@SubliminaLstv]

F7-A MK2 during IAE?

[@Qualo7]

@@SubliminaLstv For clarity whomever may read this. F7A MK 2 is only if you did the overdrive event to completion (10+ hours) previously this year will you be able to get the F7A upgrade token that you then apply to a purchased F7C MK 2 ship.

[@fatal_bull]

Great vid.. keep it up bro! 👌

[@SubliminaLstv]

Thanks for watching!

[@fatal_bull]

​@@SubliminaLstvpersonally, I feel the Tracker sig should be huge obv in scan mode. Whilst by default.. same as the reg ship .. or maybe a lil higher cause of the additional profile? 🤷‍♂️

[@ozramblue117]

The MK IIs certainly looks sleeker than the original f7 counterparts. Are they just straight up better or are there pros and cons keeping the original line relevant? Side note, it looked like a lot of your hits weren’t registering.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Not sure I need to wait for spviewer to update to know. And even then, things will be rebalanced. Yeah, kinda hard to tell with the particle effects on 11.

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

The MK1's are phased out because they needed to update the chasis so it will have all the systems they wanted in it.

[@wor.g]

Can someone ELI5 how the signatures work for stealthiness?

[@SubliminaLstv]

It used to be simply whatever the highest number is, is how far you could be seen in meters away. So a 6k sig in any three categories can be seen from 6k away.

[@pirateradio8420]

I think the R stand for Reconnaissance and the S stands for Stealth

[@juliancain6128]

Is the top Nav speed that same as the standard Mk.2? I didn't hear a number for the Tracker or Ghost.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Yes

[@juliancain6128]

@@SubliminaLstv Thx Sub, great channel!

[@GW2Vids1]

So I don't get it, are these new ships or updates for the existing ships?

[@paratrooperz1]

darn it subliminal you failed to test the tracker as it was intended its a scan ship maybe there is new scan play? or range or something? but a tracker doesnt need to be in a fight its the first ship you send into pyro gate to see if other side is clear and then scan for anomalies

[@SubliminaLstv]

I really wanted to but to put this day into perspective I had just first looked the medipin and crusader and the three of them came out late. It was like 3am lol. And what really did me in was I didn't have access in AC. If they weren't missing from there I could have just spawned the ships and recorded data. In the verse I would need at least another person. I know it will eventually have larger scanning capabilities it could be today or not. Maybe I'll test and pin a comment. P. S. About new scanning capabilities, for sure no. I kinda did test it. Could have cut it out on accident. At most it can see things from farther away. The wormhole scanning your talking about is part of "exploration gameplay" and the that was in, you'd know about it lol. Probably the most popular gameplay loop ingame or out.

[@modusponen1447]

1:11 hopefully for painting targets.

[@SubliminaLstv]

I was suspecting maybe using it to send imagery of a player base from the air to a fleet. But I guess that serves the same purpose as you said, but your idea seems a lot cooler. 😅

[@NinjaManZX10]

0:18 R for Recognition and S for Stealth

[@alttoholic5837]

is there going to be a Mk II Super Hornet planned?

[@draemalicust1803]

Hmm I guess this doesn't allow links. On the RSI site they said the Super Hornet, Ghost and Tracker would get a Mk II when they told us the Mk I series would be discontinued.

[@draemalicust1803]

search for comm-link/transmission/19936-Hornet-Mk-I and then that info will be under Super Siblings.

[@solidcdr6]

yes

[@Poxtor]

360p ?

[@kratoa92]

I've been calling them Specter and Ranger

[@JheregCG60]

The R is an AWACS.

[@tealwraith9045]

I say R is for reconnaisance and S is for stealth.

[@SubliminaLstv]

I think so now too.

[@ElPolloDiabloCH]

I reckon the R stands for recon.

[@xXE4GLEyEXx]

They are pretty but the MK I has my heart.

[@yugbe]

Isn't the R for Recon?

[@TheKodiak72]

Original Tracker model looks way better

[@joshuabrown4030]

There aren't too many ships that look as good as the mk1 Tracker.

[@Jeddingfry]

These ships existed before and people paid real money for them. Now the MKII is a completely separate but superior ship available for purchase separately? The OG owners can upgrade for a real money fee of course. My question. Is this what's going to happen to all the old ships they sold? The Cuttys will have a MKII? The freelancers will have a MKII. The Mustangs. A MKII. The Auroras. Starfarers. Avengers. 300s. etc. etc. All available for purchase or upgrade from CIG for the low low price of X.

[@osullytony]

Nothing they are and will remain flyable they will just do only the basics on it weapon balancing bug fixes and small things like that.

[@Jeddingfry]

@@osullytony Why the Hornet MKII then? Why not just upgrade the existing Hornet like they said they would? The Hornet is the first of those 2014 ships to get a gold pass and they released it balanced as an MKII instead? If they did that with free upgrade options for existing owners I'd get it. But nope. I hope you're right. But what they did with this specific ship raises questions.

[@christianmolick8647]

the red details on the ghost look cool but are too much, should have gone with all dark

[@mylegs123]

There are way too many Hornets that I just want to avoid the series of fighter at this point. CIG should at least make all MK2s as military only variants (drop the MK2 F-7c) and all MK1s as civilian (Mk1 F-7As got mothballed/converted to Cs). Ultimately MK1 (civilian) and MK2 (military} should just be modular platforms, because I cant imagine any new player enjoys this current system. There also better not be a MK2 F8

[@HelminthCombos]

it makes no sense that these 2 are different ships when they have the same role... a recon vehicle with a camera should be stealth so it isnt removed from life and a Stealth ship that's not for recon is just a less efficient fighter once you get into attack range.

[@btoiscool]

iirc the R is Recon

[@lildeep.]

r - recon s - stealth

[@karradvall9779]

Not sure what happened but my comment edit duplicated, so I deleted one and they're both gone. Boy I dislike using my phone... Anyway, loved the f off comment when ATC stated your landing zone would be taken away due to inactivity. Said something similar myself before. Concerning the ships, I appreciate the first look. I am definitely on the fence about an upgrade to the tracker, though I do have interest in it. The IR and EM for both ships was just bananas!

[@SubliminaLstv]

Well I found out later that it is due to the stock components. I mention it later in the video.

[@karradvall9779]

@SubliminaLstv Yeah, I remember you swapping components on Erkul (great website and tool). I was just surprised at the stock components making it so detectable.

[@Voidesh]

R for Recon S for stealth

[@waitwhat3707]

PC specs? Please?

[@SubliminaLstv]

subliminal.gg/mysetup/

[@brianreyes3179]

wooo!

[@杨伟民-z3t]

Basikly, thease are F7A MK2, they sell you the F7A "exclusively", they cann't sell it any more, then they just change some figures here and there and call them two new ships! enough for CIG bullshit!

[@SubliminaLstv]

This statement is false.

[@miszionX]

destroy the shield first, lasers do better at that

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

I hear the F7-S Ghost components are such garbage it would be almost harder to detect an F7A than the ghost.

[@chipanda3814]

Disappointing he didn't test the radar

[@The-Red-Kraken]

We need to not have 50 difrent hornets, its time for new ships insted of changing a weapon mount and calling it a new ship.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Agreed. But I'm not sure how to fix the problem. I say make the new hornets better in every way except maybe one metric so it can have a niche. And then stop selling them so they become collectors items. Don't even display them at IAE unless it's like a history museum type setting. But not making MK II's isn't the answer IMO. I don't think it wastes much dev time to make them.

[@SeaRaven227]

@@SubliminaLstv What annoys me is we have modularity that works now, just make the modules available instead of making a bunch of different models. Sell the stealth cap, you put it on your hornet and it becomes a ghost. Same with the tracker module, just sell the module and when you put it on your base hornet model, it becomes a hornet tracker. Because right now it doesn't make sense, the reason the Ghost is stealthy is because of the cap, but people remove it and put a turret in for more firepower and it keeps the stealth bonus, that's just dumb and it will give people a false idea of what the ship is and we'll have another major "nerf" whine fest when they fix it.

[@SubliminaLstv]

@@SeaRaven227 Well my testing here shows that the cap does nothing today. Stealth is a factor stored on the ship for now. It's not about making sense right now, they know what needs to be done. It's about when is it a good time to do it? IMO its not that serious. We will look back on today and reminisce when the ghost had almost no downsides over the rest of the F7s (excluding the A). for sure that would make things easier. We also need to get rid of variants that are essentially just paint skins. They are slowly doing this . My gladius valiant is finally a skin that can be removed to just be he base

[@AveSinistra]

Eh

[@HelloStarCitizens]

The ghost is just lazy work

[@SubliminaLstv]

I don't know about that. More like giving us the bare minimum product for now and polish later. IMO I am fine just waiting for now at least stealth works. I put stealth components on it and it went down to like 5-6k and that is lower than I thought initially.

[@hichiroakuasa8644]

too much desinformation

[@SubliminaLstv]

disinformation* Like what? Constructive feedback please.

[@Primarch19th]

That's racist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@SubliminaLstv]

Wait what?

[@SpaceDad42]

Meh, your opinions lost all credibility with your views on solo play. Bottom of the barrel channel now.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Go play euro struck simulator and stop trying to ruin my MMO.

[@SpaceDad42]

@@SubliminaLstv Go play basketball and stop ruining games.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Why would I play baseball? It's a boring sport, real men watch/play football (jk🤣). Shit, I'd rather watch the WNBA. How am I ruining it?🤣 I've just been here telling people for years what the plan has been all along. Maybe next time don't blindly back a project and then when you find out the plan they sold 13years ago doesn't fit what you want, maybe not try to change it for all the people before you who paid money to fund it.