Star Citizen 3.24.3 - 10 Minutes More or Less Ship Review - ANVIL F7C-S HORNET GHOST MK.II

[@EvenLease44]

My expected price point is probably waaay off... my guess is what I feel it’s worth but it’ll probably be closer to $200. IAE is almost here and it's going to be a great time (hopefully). Thank you everyone for being so awesome and hope you enjoyed!

[@-DarkFox-]

Yeah, I expect this one to clock in with a $10 premium over the F7-C. Tracker $15

[@Riley8425]

Yeah the regular f7c mkII is $175 so…

[@EvenLease44]

@@Riley8425yeah! Isn’t that ridiculous…

[@ViniciusConsorte]

190$ Ghost, 200$ Tracker

[@luispedras9560]

You can't no longer upgrade guns in F7C mark II , no nose gun or turret option and no more gun ball turret nighter ! WTF they did in this ship classe !?? i didn't by only for 2 size 4 guns i bought for the extra guns mount ! I already live my vote in Issue council

[@Metro2Metro]

$140? For an hornet ghost mark 2! In your dreams... $200 is where I price that at The base model Mark 2 is $175 so it is definitely not going to be cheaper than that

[@EvenLease44]

I agree. Thought about it a lot after I made this and came to the same thought process. I feel like the MKIIs are way to high a price.

[@bobbyb6053]

@@EvenLease44 The Mark 2 should have been the update of the base hornet and not a new ship. It looks like a rework, like they did on the 300i or Cutlass for example, but this time they decided to sell the rework as a separate ship. Imagine if the Cutlass rework came out and they called it Cutlass Black MKII and charged $250 for it. I don't like this new way of updating ships one bit.

[@itsnullcraft]

The F7C coming out was 175$ thats what im thinking

[@HeatherMason455]

185, 175 warbond rn

[@Metro2Metro]

@HeatherMason-fi1qr this post was a guess on what we think they were going to sell it for. We were only short by $15 By the way, it was 165 war Bond and 185 value

[@brandoncardozo1772]

Hey just wanted to say you are my favourite channel when it comes to ship reviews, from your positive attitude and lightheartedness. How you make these videos for your son first and foremost but gained a following through it too, glad to see your channel grow.

[@EvenLease44]

Thank you so much! You’re awesome.

[@tommywu9361]

So I got the Ghost MKII and there are some issues with it, to begin with, none of the MKI nose turrets or ball turrets are compatible, so you are left with only 2 S4 guns to fend for yourself. You can remove the Ghost "ball" and also the Nose hardpoint is empty, but you cannot attach anything to them as of yet because CIG made it so MKI parts are not compatible with MKII parts. Currently waiting for Super Hornet MKII to release.

[@EvenLease44]

I believe that’s a bug with the Mk1 parts. Reported and confirmed, let’s see what happens.

[@memedbengul4350]

i've heard that insralling with a tractor beam and then storing the ship works

[@DigiBentoBox]

Wow that battle was beautiful. The sunset looks incredible and seeing the tracers streak in the sky without seeing the pip of the HUD felt so cinematic. Excellent review as always evenlease!

[@shaftoe195]

Cool. I look forward to Hornet Tracker and testing of its recon capabilities compared to other hornets and similar spacecraft.

[@IIITangentIII]

I can guarantee this ship is going to be at least $60. Unlike weather forecasters I have a 100% prediction rate.

[@EvenLease44]

At least!

[@protoni6996]

😂 no wonder why it's 100% 😅

[@SirMadsen]

According to the ships page there no hard points at the ball and nose. I believe the to wing mounts are the only ones the ship will have. Which makes sense since it's a stealth.

[@gnaruto7769]

Mk1 hornets have that retro feel that I really like. Mk1 tracker is my absolute favourite, the ghost looks much better in mk2 though.

[@commanderroddi7742]

Extra guns: YOu can either have 2 S1 on nose turret OR 1 S3, plus the ball turret you can have either2 S2 or 2 S3 (if you can get the turret form an F7A which you can't buy), and there is a Special S4 or S5 Puck that lets you put a S4 gun on top for 3 S4 and 1 S3 (though 2S4 and 3 S3 is best load if you can).; Alternatively, you can put nose turret with Strife mass drivers that have crazy range for snipping and okay damage. Question is, if you add the turret on top, does that mess with the stealth? is the cap that the Ghost have adding to its stealth?

[@VikingrBerserker]

What I am going to be really curious about is how the Ghost Mk II stacks up against the Sabre once all can be tested in LIVE. As much as I love my Comet, I could see melting it towards this.

[@gyratingwolpertiger6851]

That health pool is likely inteded as balancing. The Ghosts in lore swap out normal armour for void armour ie less hp but now low observable.

[@toecutter9372]

I traded in my Comet for this one. I just felt lately that the Sabre wasn’t doing it for me and wanted to try this one out and I loved it. It’ll go in my Polaris along side the F7A

[@itzhurg2652]

thank you for making this video! also stat wise it sounds like the mk1 is better in most areas as it has a lower detection range, better missile options, higher health and from what i can tell the same speed while the main things you get from the mk2 is higher dps with the two size 4's and the 96 decoys

[@XJR15ftw]

Thanks for the review! Appreciate seeing all the numbers in one place. I had the chance to see and try all the variants. It's extremely disappointing that the Ghost has zero new geometry other than the top module. The Tracker at least has a cool new nose, this one barely rates over a paintjob. It's also still not very stealthy, I think the gain is so tiny the drawbacks are definitely not worth it.

[@EvenLease44]

I agree with you and the price is sure to be laughable.

[@lordfraybin]

I liked the lens focal point on the intro being on your character....... but try to 'refocus' on the ship when you 'point the ship out behind you' and say it's name.

[@edgerunnerwhitelake]

God I want the Ghost MkII so badly. I absolutely LOVE the aspects and ideas of stealth gameplay and prefer it way more than traditional joust fighting. Another amazing video, thank you Even!

[@bastienhouse5202]

Hold on for now, removing the cap doesn't change anything for now, and it's apparently hard to get the turrets

[@RayathF]

What I'm excited about is the ability to purchase the specialized equipment for use with the F7A.

[@Trampus10-4]

I love the mk.I the mk.II is a good upgrade. Little bit better, even slightly smaller. Almost perfect.

[@TheThorJunki]

Ill be getting these variants in game i think. Fighters are rarely worth the irl price in my opinion

[@CMDR_MURR]

6:29 loving the battle music there

[@gabzsy4924]

The original ghost was a really good deal, and often recommended as the go to Hornet, not sure this one is, time will tell. It looks cool though.

[@s3p4kner]

Still waiting for an honest to goodness take on the Starfury, even NASA loved it. I like this Mk2 Hornet, the lines are cleaner, the design less fussy despite having more wing bits than a swarm of bees. It's reminiscent of stealth and maintains an aggressive posture.

[@jordan9632]

Whoa! I do like the way it looks compared to the mk1. It's sharp looking!

[@EvenLease44]

Looks really smooth compared!

[@mem0ryfoam]

Honestly, I love the new ghost. Will it be a bit of a glass cannon, yep, but will it be zippy for its class, yep. Paired with how low it can get it's EM down with stealth components, even with military shields, it's about on par with it's cross section which is already nice and low. Going to be a fun ship. Though, I'm not a big pvp'er, so on that stance I really have to wait and see, but for general missions, going to be fun... even if I have to refuel every jump lol

[@itsnullcraft]

Its not much of a glass cannon considering its a hornet MKII (the whole class has alot of damage) but im glad they are swapping HP for speed and I actually hope the speed gets a buff even.

[@itsnullcraft]

Also another comment, the current 700k quantum issnt as bad as you think, it can do many planetary jumps, but you cant really jump across the system twice without one refil

[@SleepyWarden1]

ooo I love the hornet mk2. I got to borrow my friends and I have wanted one ever since.

[@EvenLease44]

Yeah it’s quite the little fighter.

[@itsnullcraft]

As a owner of a F7A MKII i have to say its my favorite ship in the game. Id really advise getting a F7C if you have the money.

[@devonjanzen1335]

EvenLease44. You are the boss. Thanks for these killer reviews!

[@EvenLease44]

Thank you!

[@tylertiffin9067]

I was looking at getting a fighter, but after looking at my Corsair, it's basically a big clumsy fighter. I can get more dps than all the fighters I looked at trading my Corsair in for, and it has more hp. So I might just keep my Corsair.

[@briangueringer3673]

I don't like the changes for the Corsair but I don't think it useless. I personally don't like the wings but the back cargo bay was way more convenient than the Connies. It's just that it came from a crazy strong solo position. I think in the end the Redeemer turned out OK too.

[@Lambonights]

My Advice, hold on to your Corsair, for now at least. Sure, it's in a bad place right now but, mark my words, it's time will come again. 😉

[@connleth_208]

I really like the Mk II, but it should go through the gold standard, as you mentioned. I like how they kept the mk I in the game. I will probably try renting one and seeing how it is.

[@GUNNYCANUCK]

I wonder if we'll get a F7A-S MK II...

[@Lambonights]

Would be nice if we could add that stealth coating to the "A". Certainly, you can fling stealth components on to it.

[@hardybi4545]

actually im looking forward to the awacs gameplay and the tracker variant of the f7c

[@memedbengul4350]

how is the nasty cockpit glass glare?

[@Blkstang82]

Im not a huge fan of the hornets, but that ghost is a sexy looking bird. Way to expensive for something that can only do dogfighting, but a nice-looking ship regardless. Also, they have got to chill on the sparks ballistics hits cause. That is blinding lol

[@EvenLease44]

Yeah during the fight I felt like I needing welding goggles… insane. Agree it’s to expensive.

[@wor.g]

Very curious about the Tracker variant and just what capabilities that giant radar will provide

[@Tanksworkshop]

Let the flaming begin...this is not a troll...I like the look of the Mk I Hornets better, so I'm keeping mine. It's not a tracker, just a plain F7C, but I love it. I also like the Intrepid, so it may in fact my tastes that are error territory...

[@Shadowwolf1129]

New to your Channel but I am enjoying the videos alot. Thanks

[@EvenLease44]

Welcome and Thank you!

[@memedbengul4350]

The MK I is capable of 3111 sustained and 3600 burst. The shield can easily be replaced so there is no difference. As for the ship HP, always, always, always ignore total HP and look at HP of the vital parts. The mk I is 2550 each for nose and body, the mk II is 2750 each. MK I has 6000 extra missile damage potential. Even if the top and nose hardpoints could be used on the MK II, the sustained dps would be around 4000, assuming 'ammo and regen efficiency' is very high. So, for a 10% vitals HP gain, and 30% sus. dps gain if all hardpoints can eventually be used, you are expected to pay 32% more while losing 25% missile damage. That's an okay deal, not great. In its' current state it has 22% less sustained dps. That's a dealbreaker.

[@davewills6121]

No Gold Standard?, well that is a shame, many such as myself didn't check for that important ommision. Melted the F8 for the ''Gladius/Arrow and Buccaneer, and was hoping for a Ghost/Tracker, but not the vanilla F7AMKII. Thanks fo the heads up.

[@_Brando_69]

I hope i can actually add weapons to it at some point without having to find someone to sell me there ball turret

[@intersurfer5559]

Your channel is awesome!

[@EvenLease44]

Thank you! You’re awesome!

[@ErickSilva-hn4st]

i dont know if they are going to fix it but you can put the F7A turret in this thing and have 2 size 3 on top

[@ethanloveland504]

thats intentional, originally you could also put the f7a nose turret on them as well but they removed that.

[@migiV8520]

I'm probably looking into getting this. Just love me some hornet!

[@my_username_was_taken]

Thanks for this video, but WOW did you expect the price that they landed on? Crazy, I hope it's better than the mk1. The paint isn't as nice with the red tips. Jet black would have been better.

[@recoandmidnight1555]

100% getting this ship. The look and paint the kinda knocked it out the park.

[@EvenLease44]

Looks much better than the MK1

[@recoandmidnight1555]

@ I definitely agree with that

[@James_MacIntyre]

Now they just need to actually list all the center modules in the in-game stores.

[@KaybeCA]

Hi Evenlease. What are your thoughts on the Tracker Mk2 now that it has the same quantum range as heavy fighters? Are you thinking of making a video?

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

Saber is supposed to be a Lightning competitor not a Hornet competitor.

[@OmegaRose_Official]

Would be interested to see where it's priced. That's pretty much the deciding factor XD

[@hooperj11]

Inexplicably, this stealth ship does not come with stealth components as stock. According to spviewer, It is also less stealthy than the Mk I, both as stock and if they are each given the best possible loadout. So apparently stealth technology at Anvil is getting worse, not better.

[@Lambonights]

It's the trade-off for having those bigger weapons, I fear.

[@xyrothryu]

I expect this to be $185 if the 15 upcharge for the mk1 remains true, which is alot but still far under the heavy fighters

[@spearborn7978]

These are my favorite. Your videos are on point and you are so spot on with your timing. Keep up the Amazing work, if you want a collaborator please reach out.

[@tagged_sc_aka_pilotducky]

Without this video, I wouldn’t know the difference between the ships 😅. Thanks, if I were to purchase a fighter it would def be a hornet!

[@davewills148]

Im sure, CIG has good reason not to have given these ships ''Gold Standard'' atm, yet these are decent starter ships, waiting on the Heartseeker, should be nice.

[@VortexStolenName]

You cant change the ball turret or nose turret... 3.24.3 made sure of that (this goes for the F7C MKII and the F7A MKII as well).

[@EvenLease44]

That is only a bug. It’s being fixed.

[@VortexStolenName]

@EvenLease44 maybe, CIG did say they didn't want F7A parts on an F7C, maybe they got carried away

[@liamseven1604]

its a bug, i assume the code for the fact that the f7a mk2 was stopped from putting its parts on the mk1 was mixed into the f7a mk2 not being able to put its parts on the variants of the same type.

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

@@liamseven1604 Sounds more like yall are hoping its a bug from what I'm reading.

[@cyanetica4802]

My most beloved stealth ships are still the Prowler & Raven and as the Hornet Ghost has 51 HP more than the Raven it's obviously OP!

[@EvenLease44]

Love the options you picked!

[@rvpimp]

ball turret swaps are not working in 3.24.3

[@EvenLease44]

Believe that’s only with the base model, I was able to swap the top out with the ball turret this yesterday.

[@tje.o.a5477]

What a neat little ship, and it was under 10 minutes! YOU CAN DO IT EVENLEASE!

[@EvenLease44]

Oh… whoops… 😬

[@JayEhch85]

I'm debating with if I want this one or if I want the F7C standard model 2

[@gogogadgetGlock]

F7c is broken with the newest PU patch. I hope it will be remedied in 4.0 but who knows

[@JayEhch85]

@gogogadgetGlock yeah, there is a workaround for the f7a, but the c is broken atm

[@BlacklistSanji]

I really enjoy your reviews, it helped me a lot with my decisions, so thanks for that. I don‘t now, though, I am not a big fan of the fighter category. But really good review

[@EvenLease44]

Thank you!!

[@MeatSalad84]

I doubt you'll be able to upgrade the ball in this one. It looks like that area is bespoke for the stealth-ey-ness. Just my guess.

[@EvenLease44]

It’s available in the vehicle options screen, even though it does look like it physically.

[@DSG5]

How does it compare to the normal mk2? Does it have the same stats? (Other than the stealth aspect)

[@RicoZaid_]

Do you lose stealth if you add the ball turret at the top?

[@EvenLease44]

Adding the ball turret it self has no change but when you add weapons to that it does take away a minor amount of stealth.

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

@@EvenLease44 I'm sure it has a weaker power plant than the F7A MKII?

[@GB--]

Good evening friend, could you tell me what the distance to this ship's radar is, what would be the distance it can approach another ship in Stealth mode?

[@EvenLease44]

Currently its components aren’t not the correct ones so you are detectable much further than you should be. If you swap out the components with the proper stealth ones you drop down to 3-5k detectible range.

[@GB--]

@@EvenLease44 I understand, thanks for the information, I may be wrong, but the ghost MK1 was a little below this 3KM-5KM

[@ToutSansFiltre]

what is the spec of this ship please ?

[@Dark-Poett]

What is your Graphic card or pc setup? Your graphics are amazing.

[@snaggletoof1927]

MK2 Hornets look so much better. More "organic", hornet shaped. I dig it. And the Ghost looks best of them so far with that paint scheme.

[@anwaltskanzleimarugen178]

Cool review!!

[@EvenLease44]

Thank you!

[@valkyrie1689]

So let's say you can't get the 7a mounts would you compare this to a Saber since that's it's only price point competitor

[@EvenLease44]

Yeah I’d say so, it’s pretty competitive to the Sabre at least stock. The Sabre has 4 s3 hard points though.

[@kevinrosa5804]

Wait and see how much we will spend !

[@le4389]

Where did you get this ship in 3.24.3?

[@Lambonights]

Hate to say this, but I think the Mk1 Ghost is the better of the two. Might not look as good, but it is tougher, and those bigger missiles are perfect for ambushes. Sure, it has smaller guns, but it isn't always about the size of the gun, it's really what you do with it. Also, the Mk2 will be a lot more expensive. Likely this will be the same for the Tracker and the "M" too. This is good though because Mk1s are still relevant. I do have a F7A MkII and it's great. For me, that's the best Mk2 variant to aim for if you want one.

[@towhidalam2015]

I love this game! Star Citizen LTI Game pack?

[@codydagrizz]

W review as always

[@EvenLease44]

Thank you!

[@Jinx7red]

Keeping my Matte Black Hornet, looks so much cooler!@!

[@Soundwavesghost]

They are neat. But so crazy how much they can cost ya in game.

[@tgjaedan]

Does the Mk II Ghost have a baked in 10% EM reduction due to the paint job like the Mk I? Love my Mk I and still have it. Hornet series (and my Gladiator) really give me that old school childhood fantasy vibe of those 70's and 80's Navy carrier aircraft. I like both the Mk I and Mk II but I do agree I wish the Mk I front engine intakes were tucked in a little bit. I hate that they made a Mk II with just outright larger gun mounts and I hope they don't just ignore the Mk I now that it isn't for sale. I don't want to get rid of it but it would suck to keep something for nostalgia that just isn't a viable option into the future.

[@EvenLease44]

It’s a -28% reduction on the MKII

[@tgjaedan]

@@EvenLease44 Oh nice! Although still annoys me that they dropped the Mk II and just seem to be making them outright better than the old Mk I instead of just giving that a polish pass.

[@Seeras]

Although this looks fantastic, the possible applications are unfortunately very limited if you want to stay stealthy.

[@EvenLease44]

Very true!

[@Decompose_Corpse]

Nah set it up with tachyons and hard hitting size 4 on the ball turret. You could turn this into a sniper and shoot from 5k out or more and be totally invisible

[@Babs-md3tj]

@@Decompose_CorpseI love the idea of a sniper ship

[@Decompose_Corpse]

@Babs-md3tj it's been proven effective you just need to make sure you keep your nose to your enemy so they don't spot your cross section signal

[@Babs-md3tj]

@@Decompose_Corpse appreciate the tip! 🙏

[@ytwetsu]

I might be an outlier here, but I prefer the MK I ghost over the MK II.

[@Royaltea_Citizen]

Nice paint on that bad boy!

[@skankhunt9078]

Can the turrets be placed on the ghost mk2?

[@memedbengul4350]

nope. the components aren't available at stores in-game. C5-173f turret should fit theoretically, if you have an F7A mk II lying around you should be able to source it from that.

[@barbarusezz7008]

noice its a very nice looking ship

[@SC4RFAC327]

i had the Ghost MK 1 but this one looks so sleek

[@jch1386]

The Ghost is the one that might keep me from regretting not snagging an f7a upgrade because I didn't trust the servers and none of my friends were playing ahah

[@Lambonights]

You will get another chance at the F7A MkII. I know I would really like a chance at the F7A Mk1 as I missed that back in the day.

[@Azkr-]

This game would be a lot better if it followed such hopeful pricing like your $140 for this ship for the rest of the available vehicles

[@Weyoun359]

Planning to update my Mk1 ghost

[@EvenLease44]

Wouldn’t be a terrible upgrade once they fix the stealth components on the MKII

[@slashsf5467]

Question. I have an F7A mkII. I have no reason whatsoever to look at the ghost stat wise correct? Because if I wanted a little more stealth, I could just swap components...

[@EvenLease44]

Exactly. At this time just get stealth components and that’ll work great for adding stealth.

[@kevintsai8814]

I thought stealth ships get a bonus stealth % just from their chassis. I think most stealth ships get a 40% boost. Cpt foxy did some tests.

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

@@kevintsai8814 They do at least they have in the past. The hornet ghost should get a stealth increase based on the chasis. Putting all stealth components in a hornet doesn't make it to much less stealthy'r. The hornet ghost it will because of the chasis bonus. I've tried to load up on stealth components in a normal hornet and it didn't go down much. Now that was a year ago so much has probably changed since then.

[@Kiwii404]

Looks so cool

[@FelixNewname6917]

What recording software do you use?

[@EvenLease44]

Action! Recorder.

[@skelpie]

Absolute Cinema

[@joace9970]

$190 is my prediction for the price. Lets see what is it going to be.

[@EvenLease44]

I think you might be right… sadly..

[@oOWaschBaerOo]

no this will defenetly not be 120-140 my friend .. the mk2 normal is already much more expensive with 175 store credits, the ghost mk1 is 15 bucks more expensive than the regular hornet ( same for the tracker ) this thing will be 185-190 store credits so 165ish warbond

[@EvenLease44]

Yeah… after i made this yesterday i sat on that thought for a long time and came to the same conclusion. See my pinned message 😂😅

[@oOWaschBaerOo]

@@EvenLease44 i sure hope tho that we get 2 new concierge skins since its 2 new concepts being released :P

[@liamseven1604]

@@oOWaschBaerOo no

[@fg1110]

It will bmost like be between 150$ and 180$

[@rodrigogodoi4250]

Ghost mark 1 was like, 20 dollars more than regular mark 1? I dont think will cost less than 190 dollars.

[@EvenLease44]

Sadly I think you are right. A bit high a price too.

[@crispy9175]

I wish they had finished the MkI before moving onto the MkII at least 😢

[@EvenLease44]

Someday… all the older ships will hopefully get the love they deserve

[@crispy9175]

@EvenLease44 but you get my point about them creating a new stealth fighter when the first version of that stealth fighter was bought and sold and not finished? At least one of two things are wrong here.

[@Ristal306]

I am not a fan of making MK2 ships as then I don't see the use of the Mk1 but I will admit the Hornets look good as MK2s.

[@AFRCPE]

nice ship can't wait to try it soon. Evenlease, did you realise the new patch released today just unlocked the entrance to guest waiting hall at IAE 2954 at Tobin Expo. I tried to buy some IAE T-shirt 👕 at the booth, then got kicked from the server. 🤣 The coffee maker no longer works in this new patch. But the overall gameplay is so smooth and graphics are more crisp. I think CIG just polished the game even more. I get 60-70 fps now compared to the old version I got 30-40fps. And the planets atmosphere loads beautifully. The inventory system works flawless now. If they refresh it to 4.0 patch on Thursday do you think it will get buggy again?

[@cygnus6623]

I got booted multiple times (5) this morning...CTD. Then it did seem to work well. Hopefully that will not happen again.

[@AFRCPE]

@cygnus6623 good to know. How was the verification download after the game crash? The verification download speed used to be 55-60 Megabytes per second. Now i get 350-850KByte seconds speed. I think the servers are on full bandwidth. That is good news as it shows people are downloading and excited to play the game. ☺️ What are you looking forward to at IAE 2054 this year?

[@cygnus6623]

@@AFRCPE It seems to be working good now. 🤞

[@emcmanamna]

Looks cool, but a stealth ship with no stealth components? Sloppy work, CIG.

[@UAF_ViVi]

I feel like they could've done so much more for the Ghost in this 'redesign'. For a so called stealth ship it doesn't really look like one outside of the dark color scheme. Too many random fins and exposed weapons that will increase it's signature and detection. Always been my complaint with their stealth designs. The artists should look at more real world designs rather than just slapping on a new paint and saying it's 'good enough.'

[@tje.o.a5477]

Nice armor bro

[@EvenLease44]

Thank you!

[@EXRAY479]

This hornet may very well become more popular than the F7A

[@liamseven1604]

i mean yeah considering you cant get the f7a anymore through CIG means and the ghost and other variants will be available in-game, its pretty inevitable that it will be used more.

[@EXRAY479]

@ Yes very true, I reckon though even owners of the f7a will start using the ghost over it