ANVIL or Anvil Shaped Object

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Black Bear Forge II

Black Bear Forge II

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Vevor sent out the little 30 kg two horn anvil to take a look at.
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@shon9425
@shon9425 Жыл бұрын
I have been slowly learning blacksmithing and some casting methods and such and these videos have been the most helpful to me, keep up the good work.
@BlackBearForgeII
@BlackBearForgeII Жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@paulregner5335
@paulregner5335 Жыл бұрын
Where I live there are a few farriers that are aging out of the trade and retiring. They sometimes sell their equipment, but they know what it's worth and often want top dollar. It looks like this might be a good option for someone like myself that's just starting out. Thank you for an impartial and thorough evaluation! 👍
@herweirdoo0904
@herweirdoo0904 Жыл бұрын
You might be better off buying those high quality old anvils. Those are usually a buy once cry once deal
@joshschneider9766
@joshschneider9766 Жыл бұрын
​@@herweirdoo0904farriers anvils tend to have a narrow working face which will limit you to smaller work
@maxtrehus602
@maxtrehus602 Жыл бұрын
Ive been using this anvil for the last 3 years as a hobby blacksmith and its ate everything ive thrown at it, forged 2lb hammers on it with no issue. Probably getting close to the upper limit of what it can do forging the hammers though. Great video as always John
@erikcourtney1834
@erikcourtney1834 Жыл бұрын
There pretty good anvils. Great starter anvil or a good anvil to teach on. Letting a beginner smith or my kids use my 1923 wrought iron anvil is gut wrenching. Letting them use a cheaper functional anvil is much safer.
@TingTingalingy
@TingTingalingy Жыл бұрын
Agree
@ChristCenteredIronworks
@ChristCenteredIronworks Жыл бұрын
Great addition to the reviews on this anvil thanks John
@benjhind
@benjhind Жыл бұрын
I've got the 100lb version and the biggest cons are the paint and the useless pritchel hole. Definitely best bang for the buck where I am, and I'm happy with it.
@pjamestx
@pjamestx Жыл бұрын
Special guest appearance: hook of the week!
@Vikingwerk
@Vikingwerk Жыл бұрын
I have the same pattern anvil under another name, and can confirm every point you made, a little light for bigger projects, and not having it secured to the floor makes every project a game of ‘chase the anvil’ But if you lock it down, and only do smaller projects, it is pretty good for the price.
@nicksmith7314
@nicksmith7314 Жыл бұрын
I have this same anvil and it is great I have had it for 2 years
@FarmsteadForge
@FarmsteadForge Жыл бұрын
I was around this anvil for the first time a couple days ago and I was quite impressed with it for being a budget anvil. The horn wasn't my favorite but for the price you can definitely get over that! Thanks for the review, I appreciate how you explained the rebound.
@TingTingalingy
@TingTingalingy Жыл бұрын
I got mine when they were still $75 and I agree. I can overlook needing to completely dress the horn. Been hammering on it ever since
@RegularJohntv
@RegularJohntv 10 ай бұрын
Watching this, and a previous video on a five hundred dollar budget blacksmith’s tool list. You give me the impression I might be able to pull it off. Great work sir👍.
@robmarshallofficial
@robmarshallofficial Жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always and explains a lot about what a good and bad anvil should be
@brianfalls5038
@brianfalls5038 Жыл бұрын
Hey there John. I happen to have one of those Acciaio anvils. Mine happens to be the 60 kg(132 lbs) anvil and I got a pretty good deal on it. I'm just now starting up doing blacksmithing projects but so far that anvil is standing up ok to what punishment I'm putting it thru. All in all I think it's a good starter anvil for those of us that are just getting into the forging profession.
@erichammer5502
@erichammer5502 Жыл бұрын
I picked up the 88lb (or so) version of this anvil last Black Friday, after seeing Old Hickory Forge's review of it, and I am really pretty happy with it. I have only been at blacksmithing for about a year, but the difference between this model and my old 50 lb HF from about 20 years ago is really noticeable. The main thing that annoys me is that the hardy and pritchel holes are right on top of the bolt hold downs, so they aren't as useful for knocking e.g. a stuck punch out as the bottom of the punch often hits the bolt. Still, for the money they are great! I don't have a permanent shop spot for mine yet, so an 88 lb anvil attached to a 50 lb stump is plenty to lug out and back, and the surface is nice. I did have a tiny bit of bondo in mine, but only a little on the underside, less than 1/8" or so. After my proper shop gets done this summer I am going to try and get a decent 200+ pounder, but honestly for my purposes this little one works well enough I don't feel myself in a rush. So very nice for beginners, or those who don't do a lot of serious full time blacksmithing I would guess. Thanks for the review John, and all the wonder tutorial videos! You have been a huge inspiration. I made a new shed latch with my 6 year old daughter just the other day based on things she and I have seen you do, and it was a great time. She's a fan too, so thanks again!
@leeandmandybattersby5958
@leeandmandybattersby5958 Жыл бұрын
I have the same anvil I love it just got into black smithing I made a pair of tongs on it no problem 👍
@phillean
@phillean Жыл бұрын
Another very useful video, thanks.
@KeithSkates
@KeithSkates Жыл бұрын
I got the 40k version to start my shop with, and it's been amazing for me. I haven't anchored my stand to the floor yet, because I haven't figured out exactly where it works out best for me, and I'm still looking for a better piece of lumber than my current 9 pieces of 4x4's lag-bolted together.
@SonoraSlinger
@SonoraSlinger Жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a good stump. Here in the desert we have lots of hard mesquite, trick is it's so twisty and turny. Not easy to fin a straight stump.
@bobvines00
@bobvines00 Жыл бұрын
John, since you mentioned dressing a new anvil, here goes: How do _you_ recommend dressing a new anvil? I.e., what radii do you recommend? Do you recommend tapered radii on different edges? Etc., etc.!
@melgross
@melgross Жыл бұрын
Great review. I have the 132 lb black model. The horn shape is closer to the one on your large anvil, more of the European style. No real defects worth talking about. Yeah, the Prichel hole is in a bad spot, and is too big, way too big. But though someone else on KZbin said that they weren’t in those places because of the mounting holes, obviously they’re wrong. Whoever came up with the idea was more interested in having mounting holes than a proper Prichel hole and saved money by making them, and the Hardy holes in the same operation as the mounting holes. Ok, no big deal. I made a piece that fit in the Hardy hole, also large, that gave me a 5/8” Prichel hole and a flat surface. Otherwise, this is a pretty good anvil.
@daveharper5655
@daveharper5655 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your videos since well before you had 5000 subscribers, I’m happy that you have grown so much. I haven’t watched enough over the last while but I will make my way back to your channel. Your videos are an inspiration to me and so many people, it’s amazing how many lives you’ve touched. You are the kind of person that the world needs more of and less bs. Thank you very kindly for your time and effort over the years.
@douglasfathers4848
@douglasfathers4848 Жыл бұрын
Hi John they are a good anvil mate , I have the next size up for my grandson and I find I use it a lot when he not in the work shop . 👌👍🤠.
@SquirrelsForAll
@SquirrelsForAll Жыл бұрын
I have the 135 lb version and it's not bad. Some day I'll have a Fontanini.😀
@CausticPuffin
@CausticPuffin Жыл бұрын
A good friend of mine and both started smithing around the same time, 2.5-3 years ago. We both have one of these. For a beginner, I don’t think you could start on a better anvil. You have to be very conscious of heat and mass management, mainly do to the anvil’s light weight. Great video!
@The_Smith
@The_Smith Жыл бұрын
Great review John, that is a nice little bigornia, not that I'd want to trade my 260 lb pre-Confederation Mousehole for one, but I'd bet our ancestors a 1000 plus years ago would have loved to have it!
@brysonalden5414
@brysonalden5414 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. If that hole in the horn is intended to be used as a pritchel hole it is unfortunately located! If it's just there to bolt the anvil down, so be it, but HF's new cast steel anvil actually has a usable pritchel hole, and if I were in the market for a smaller anvil that would be my choice. Odd that HF actually has a decent anvil now!
@BlackBearForgeII
@BlackBearForgeII Жыл бұрын
I think it's only practical function is bolting sown the anvil. I did see some reviews on that other anvil and it looks interesting.
@devilsanus3510
@devilsanus3510 Жыл бұрын
$259 for the 130 lb anvil is not a bad buy for a guy on a budget. I know Roy over at christ centered iron works did acouple of videos on how to improve them.
@TheFoleyForge
@TheFoleyForge Жыл бұрын
I like my vevor anvil........ except for the fact the hardy hole is crap and is full of steel that makes it unusable.
@deryiousbarzee627
@deryiousbarzee627 Жыл бұрын
Good morning
@BlackBearForgeII
@BlackBearForgeII Жыл бұрын
Morning
@regobertoaguilar6293
@regobertoaguilar6293 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video.
@ericcartrette6118
@ericcartrette6118 Жыл бұрын
Great review! I bought that same anvil to have something light to take to shows. I haven't even dressed the edges yet. Is that a nice new post vise I see in the background?
@BlackBearForgeII
@BlackBearForgeII Жыл бұрын
It is, there should be a video on that in a few weeks over on the black bear forge channel.
@rickyricardo3551
@rickyricardo3551 Жыл бұрын
I have the 88lb model, and the biggest problem I noticed with it was how rough the hardy hole was done. It needed to be cleaned out to fit a tool, and the hole is also slightly over size . But other than that for Cheap anvil it works ok and like you said it is quite a but nicer to work with compared to some railroad track , the biggest thing to look for are defects since vevor doesn't and the customer is the quality control dept . In my experience I had to return two anvils before I got one in good Enough condition to keep.. Great video
@steveRBForge
@steveRBForge Жыл бұрын
I think Vevor cherry picked your anvil. Mine had about a third of the rebound yours has and had big voids in the horn.
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 Жыл бұрын
Great video John and good information on what to look for. Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.
@johnjude2685
@johnjude2685 Жыл бұрын
Love for you or someone to simply put a 3/4"bearning inside a plastic tube and give it, and it's compatible with the Chinese Red model of Harbor Freight. Myself that Preacher hole is an improvement location, and my hold down will rotate any direction that will make it work great! Thanks John Switzer
@SnareX
@SnareX Жыл бұрын
I got the 66lbs version. Beats the cast iron block I was using before by a mile
@SnareX
@SnareX Жыл бұрын
I don't like the hole placement
@400yearoldvampire9
@400yearoldvampire9 Жыл бұрын
Man, right tools for job are so important. Made knife out of coil spring on 3 inch steel plate as anvil, hardened cut nail in half as a test with barely visible dent, but it was hell getting to shape of knife...
@011CJ
@011CJ 7 ай бұрын
I have used the same Aso for many years. i have considered buying one of their largest anvils, but mine still works great, and i want a large older one with history behind it 👍
@வெங்கடேசன்-ள1ஞ
@வெங்கடேசன்-ள1ஞ Жыл бұрын
நான் தமிழ்நாடு நீங்க சொல்வது கொஞ்சம் கொஞ்சம் புரிகிறது காசில்லாதவர் சின்ன பொருட்களை வாங்கி பழகிக் கொள்ளவும் என்று சொல்கிறீர்கள் என்று நினைக்கிறேன்
@GeorgeStreet-m8c
@GeorgeStreet-m8c Жыл бұрын
I have both an American made quality anvil and the one you're reviewing, all I can say is that you get what you pay for!
@jairusvanberg5687
@jairusvanberg5687 10 ай бұрын
I bought this for my first anvil, I’m excited to start working metal!
@torpemonguz
@torpemonguz 11 ай бұрын
Great video.. very helpfull! Thank You!
@sladoeii
@sladoeii Жыл бұрын
What I found is that mine appeared to be induction hardened. The outer skin is hard, but the hardness didn't go very deep. This resulted in it picking up a lot of dents I wasn't expecting it to. Also, the slightly misshapen hardy makes fitting a hardy stem an exercise in patience. Still great bang for the buck, though.
@sladoeii
@sladoeii Жыл бұрын
@@Grauenwolf nah, one of the walls bulges in, so it takes a lot more work to get it to fit both snugly and be able to be rotated.
@richerworldproductions
@richerworldproductions Жыл бұрын
I had this other tiny anvil that did not work well, so my son bought me THIS exact Anvil for Father's Day. My work has improved 1000%. For a budget friendly Entry Level Anvil, i would recommend it to anyone!
@zakarysiders2020
@zakarysiders2020 Жыл бұрын
Just a random sidenote: I like the new glasses.
@DIYToPen
@DIYToPen Жыл бұрын
Sick I'm waiting for my vevor anvil to arrive rn. 60kg one
@SonoraSlinger
@SonoraSlinger Жыл бұрын
I have this exact anvil. I ad it for a few years now and it's been a hard worker for me. Harbor freight just came out with a very similar anvil, they just put the pritchel on the anvil face. Which makes me want one!
@SchysCraftCo.
@SchysCraftCo. Жыл бұрын
John great video review this anvil. Hopefully u get great use out of it for many years to come my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Forge lit. Keep Making. God Bless.
@hkhunter1
@hkhunter1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks I will check them out
@bunyanforgings7849
@bunyanforgings7849 Жыл бұрын
Hi John. Best explanation l've heard for rebound and it's importance. I bought the 44 pounder about 5 years ago when these anvils started appearing on the market. Just FYI, the specs on the anvil say it is cast out of C45 steel. Doesn't look like the casting has improved much in that time. Cheers.
@Rowganlife
@Rowganlife Жыл бұрын
ive got 135lb one, it seems good to me (a total noob)
@AkaedatheLogtoad
@AkaedatheLogtoad Жыл бұрын
Fantastic content. Everything i ever learned about working with my hands came from men like you. And I appreciate all of you.
@kuriakos
@kuriakos Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the review. Even knowing this was your honest opinion, I still have trouble understanding how these could be so cheap without some kind of QC issue.
@hollisbarels3484
@hollisbarels3484 Жыл бұрын
I was very pleased with how in depth you went into the real review of this anvil! Ive been looking forward to start blathsmithing at home for the first time. All of your videos are so helpful, and are much appreciated to a future beginner :)
@johnbloom1109
@johnbloom1109 Жыл бұрын
Love your content John! Anvil shaped object is a funny term that has sprung about. The majority of anvils in Medieval Europe, ancient Japan, and the rest of the world were just square blocks of steel for thousands of years. China had a popular anvil design that looked like a loaf of bread haha.
@gurvinderkaur6996
@gurvinderkaur6996 Жыл бұрын
Hello sir. Nice to talk to u after a long time.Nice anvil. Rebound concept well explained, 👍🔥
@thefarfiles
@thefarfiles Жыл бұрын
I have a similar anvil. I've worked 100's of pounds of steel with it. It's held up for several years.
@farmerboy916
@farmerboy916 Жыл бұрын
What tempts me a bit more and makes me more curious about the quality are the Atlas knife and tool anvils; not quite this level of $/lb, but seemingly still good value compared to other new manufacture anvils.
@Aco747lyte
@Aco747lyte Жыл бұрын
That's such a sweet little anvil! Originally, I wanted a model of yours Fontanini but no-go, so I went to Germany and bought a rare Ernst Refflinghaus Anvil, a 460 lb, South German #58 with its custom stand. Getting the blue off your anvil will make it look much better. I like the rebound that ball-bearing made when you dropped it, a very good sign. Oh, I really loved this video so much that I added to my Playlist made of your vids. Thank you so much and God bless, Wendi 🌻
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 Жыл бұрын
I am a woodworker but an anvil can come in handy on occasion. This one would probably do very well. 🙂🙂
@j.m.k.3406
@j.m.k.3406 Жыл бұрын
Thank ya John, I've been bouncing this anvil idea around As I am a fan of your channel, your opinion is valued.
@briantremblay9157
@briantremblay9157 3 ай бұрын
Hi John, as you know, I am a beginner but have over 200 hours in the shop now, I made a good little anvil from a railroad track, but now find I need a real anvil. I bought a 55lbs Vevor cast iron anvil with a 4.1 inch work space for $100cdn did I make a mistake with cast iron being on a budget?
@BlackBearForgeII
@BlackBearForgeII 3 ай бұрын
The Vevor anvils should be cast steel and are a fairly good anvil especially at that price. It should be a good next upgrade
@briantremblay9157
@briantremblay9157 3 ай бұрын
@@BlackBearForgeII Well I thought I was buying the cast steel, but when I read in the fine print from the seller it was in fact cast iron... :( I tried to cancel the order but they said it had already been shipped. Good thing there is a 30 day money back policy on it. I didn't have to pay shipping it was $114 after taxes. After I realized what I bought, i looked up videos on cast iron and was not happy with what I found. oh well live and learn. I will save up for the Vevor 66lbs cast steel. In Canada it comes to $240cdn.
@hulkthedane7542
@hulkthedane7542 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@Duckrabbit_Forging
@Duckrabbit_Forging Жыл бұрын
I'm not a big fan of where the pritchel hole is on this pattern of anvil, and will probably be getting the new harbor freight anvil, but I might eventually get one of these, probably the 10kg variant for a small bench top anvil
@BlackBearForgeII
@BlackBearForgeII Жыл бұрын
I think that hole is really only there to help in bolting it down, pretty useless as a pritchel hole.
@Tammy-un3ql
@Tammy-un3ql Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@jeffreymiller9706
@jeffreymiller9706 Жыл бұрын
I would love to know how perfectly flat your BIG anvil is...I bought a used one and the top is not level. Thanks for freely sharing your knowledge and expertise with us newbies.
@BlackBearForgeII
@BlackBearForgeII Жыл бұрын
Perfectly flat, although over time it will start to show signs of use.
@jeffreymiller9706
@jeffreymiller9706 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackBearForgeII can I resurface mine? To clean it up or should I just leave it? It's a nice 135# Peter Wright.
@BlackBearForgeII
@BlackBearForgeII Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreymiller9706 You can build the face up with hard surface welding rod. Its lots of work to do the job right and you may be better off using it as is. There should be information online describing the procedure.
@DemonsRage83
@DemonsRage83 Жыл бұрын
Harbor Freight just put out their own cast steel anvil. Almost identical except that it's RED instead of blue and the pritchel hole is in a better location. Roughly the same price. Give it a look!
@cmleoj
@cmleoj Жыл бұрын
Vevor has another version that’s twice the size. Decent price.
@tijlaerts
@tijlaerts Жыл бұрын
Since they sent it to you personally to review i'd assume they picked out a good one. I've heard reports of there being so much bondo material that the anvil is 20-25% lighter than advertised because of it.
@mercoid
@mercoid Жыл бұрын
That is such a high percentage that it is rather hard to believe even for a company manufacturing to the very lowest standards imaginable. 10 to 15% of the advertised weight I can reasonably believe, but not that much.
@davetymchyn9072
@davetymchyn9072 Жыл бұрын
Is that a Kanca leg vise in the back? I’d love to see a review on that. I’ve been thinking of buying their 6” one for a while now. Can never find a review on them. Love your videos by the way. Hope all is well
@BlackBearForgeII
@BlackBearForgeII Жыл бұрын
It is. You can look for that video on April 16th on the main Black Bear Forge channel
@Hazama27
@Hazama27 Жыл бұрын
I think this is the exact kind of anvil I got and it appears to be rusting already after less than a year, even over the painted area. I guess I'll try taking the rust off and keep it oiled between uses.
@michaelbeliveau2194
@michaelbeliveau2194 Жыл бұрын
Humid environment?
@Hazama27
@Hazama27 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelbeliveau2194 It's currently outside in a rickety metal shed, so I'm sure it gets plenty humid.
@ozarkscarguy540
@ozarkscarguy540 Жыл бұрын
Was that a walnut anvil stand?
@BlackBearForgeII
@BlackBearForgeII Жыл бұрын
Yep, Just because it was handy. I probably won't leave it on there
@ozarkscarguy540
@ozarkscarguy540 Жыл бұрын
I need to get some blocks for my bigger post leg vice and anvils. I run a sawmill and have a ton of cut offs. I was actually just thinking how I should use walnut for my anvils. Other than cost, which isn't issue for me, it's a great option.
@En-Pea-Sea
@En-Pea-Sea Жыл бұрын
This is the size anvil to mount to the back of a truck that a Ferrier would use. Thanks for the review!
@CoyoteFallsForge
@CoyoteFallsForge Жыл бұрын
That's the anvil I've got - like you said, best I could afford. Mine has more of a shark nosed shape on the horn, which is annoying. I used a flap disc to get rid of the blue paint (mine was not cured, and left sticky blue crud on everything it touched!) and smooth the finish on the horn, then I hit it with some LocTite rust inhibitor everywhere but the face and the horn to protect it. I mounted it on a square of 9 of 4x4's bolted together with allthread and made a pretty sturdy stand for it. It's been a surprisingly good anvil for the three years I've been blacksmithing and will probably continue to be even after I'm able to upgrade to larger and better anvils - i'll keep it around for smaller jobs, or as a portable anvil if I should ever need to take my show on the road for any reason.
@censusgary
@censusgary Жыл бұрын
A review sponsored by the company selling the anvil? At least you admit that’s what it is.
@pressurechangerecord
@pressurechangerecord Жыл бұрын
Made in China.
@deanrantz1112
@deanrantz1112 Жыл бұрын
Hey get with the times.....The new Anvil on the Block is the HF- Doyle 😄
@BlackBearForgeII
@BlackBearForgeII Жыл бұрын
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