Any Faster? Geforce GT 710 DDR3 vs GDDR5

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JimsJunk

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@masterTigress96 3 ай бұрын

Next up: watercooled GT710 with OC'ed HBM3 memory

@Jufa24Jaiz07 3 ай бұрын

Why buy a 4090 when we have this beast?!

@bulosqoqish1970 3 ай бұрын

Thank God that there IS a video on KZbin that isn't ruined by intrusive commercials every 3 minutes.

@raven4k998 3 ай бұрын

what are you on?

@zar7511 3 ай бұрын

@@raven4k998people like to complain about nothing 😂

@raven4k998 3 ай бұрын

@@zar7511 I mean it's youtube even if there is no ads youtube fixes that by adding their own in🤪🤪

@clear9104 3 ай бұрын

your videos are already so goood thank you, some top million subscribers hardware reviewers won't even show a frametime graph. my only critic is your charts are not easy to read

@ChrisP872 4 ай бұрын

Good video. I would suggest though that you express improvements by percentage and not just fps. If the 3 card is giving 10fps but the 5 card is giving 16fps, saying "it's just 6 fps faster" doesn't have the same impact as the the 5 card being 60 percent faster.

@jims_junk 4 ай бұрын

@@ChrisP872 thanks. I did that in the past but got away from it. I'll have to add that again in the future

@ProcessedDigitally 3 ай бұрын

i remember saying to him some years now that he needs to report in %

@mattparker9726 3 ай бұрын

2:21 this is the usecase I most expect to see, the games that this card CAN run reasonably well in the 3, it runs them NUCH more playably with the 5. Great content, subscribed!

@vladislavkaras491 3 ай бұрын

It was interesting to know the pure difference only in memory! Thanks for the video!

@SwampyF4RT 4 ай бұрын

Wow imagine if you saw the performance of the gddr5 model and ended up with one of the 48core variants 😢

@LexyDaShmexxy 3 ай бұрын

the 48 core variants are just hell to use, had a friend with one and i checked it and told him to upgrade immediately, bro couldn't even play minecraft on lowest

@MicahJohn21659 3 ай бұрын

Should definitely check the PCIE connection on the GDDR5 variant, you can see at 0:39 it’s only running at PCIE 4x which really does make a difference in memory throughput The gains could’ve been even better

@Lavadawg 3 ай бұрын

I have a rx 480 that runs off of pcie 2.0 x4, it still runs good though so 🤷‍♂

@MicahJohn21659 3 ай бұрын

@@Lavadawg it could run BETTER That’s really all I can say, more lanes = more bandwidth

@Lavadawg 3 ай бұрын

@@MicahJohn21659 I know but the motherboard cost me 20 bucks and it even had a haswell cpu in it couldn't declined the deal

@zachbeckner 3 ай бұрын

@MicahJohn21659 GPUz is great as a free program to show specs, but I don't put too much faith in the bus interface field. I've had a few times where it showed one thing but according to WMIC or device manager it was something else.

@MicahJohn21659 3 ай бұрын

@@zachbeckner I’ve had it indicate issues with my GPU connection that explained a huge performance loss

@sennpowerhv6922 3 ай бұрын

I didn’t know there was a GDDR5 version! I just thought the 1GiB and 2GiB versions launched later when Pascal came out. These cards are used in the xapple xBook G5 laptop

@RhinoXpress 4 ай бұрын

Maybe in a future video you can add more vram onto a budget gpu to see if it makes any difference. I know there is a lot more work involved, than just soldering on more vram. Someone made a video recently adding more vram to a GTX 3080 and it made a difference.

@bloeckmoep 3 ай бұрын

Hi, played with the idea of building lan party machines with low end 710 for some years now. I was gifted 4 optiplex 9020sff's, one for parts, the other 3 pristine, gathered 5 more. And decided to go for the 1030 gddr5 version, they aren't much more expensive, they have more oomph than any 710. They have the benefit to push even demanding lan games like UT3. I still have a few 710s ddr3 left from the project start left over. Gotta get rid of those. Maybe the 730s are for your workload better suited.

@oliverhoschi6135 3 ай бұрын

Love those low end comparisions. But i will never understand why people buy an 710 if they can easily buy a 1030 GDDR5 for nearly the same amount of money (at least here in germany). Sure a 1030 is even a low spec card, but you can actually play older games on it.

@zsideswapper6718 3 ай бұрын

"Remove the GPU for better performance"

@raven4k998 3 ай бұрын

pit it up against the gt 1030 gddr5 version

@chhandobhihbhushan2742 3 ай бұрын

Man, I remember back in 2015 "upgrading" my old Core 2 Duo with the original ddr3 version, it was a night and day difference. Nowadays I only find videos about how trash it is but I genuinely enjoyed my time with it.

@JamesSmith-sw3nk 4 ай бұрын

I have an Evga gt 720 1gb ddr3 fanless. The specs seem to be identical to a gt 710. It has an 8x's electrical pci-e, which makes it a small card. I use it to test motherboards & pc's.

@mattparker9726 3 ай бұрын

Now THIS is PODRACING!

@blakecasimir 4 ай бұрын

It's surprising how well, relatively, GTA5 plays on these cards. 4 was always a much shoddier experience (arguably a better story though).

@josephdias5859 3 ай бұрын

dxvk swap goes real far with gta iv the directx implementation has always been broken

@RyzesTechZone 3 ай бұрын

pretty interesting seeing how simple memory changes can affect FPS, although these cards probably only worth it if you had already owned one to start

@chen939 3 ай бұрын

that frametime difference is night and day

@betara_indera_gunung_timur 4 ай бұрын

0:28 i happened to also have a 710 gddr5 in my son's pc. ignoring your x4 @ 2.0 (which i assume wasn't taken during render), the other differences in specs are 1. the transistor : unknown (for whatever reason), 2. memory : samsung, 3. size : 1024MB, 4.bus: 32-bit, 5.bandwidth: 20.0 GB/s. it's also an Asus card, btw currently driving a 27" 1440p monitor without issues, though i suspect 2GB card will be needed if i ever upgrade to 4k screens for him

@thepirate4095 4 ай бұрын

what can he even play on a 1440p screen on a 710? looool, not even minecraft can run on that res

@Pasi123 4 ай бұрын

@@thepirate4095 He's probably not playing games on it

@betara_indera_gunung_timur 3 ай бұрын

@@thepirate4095 none at all, actually. its for mostly yt, and occasionally homework. he's 7, and i'm an asian parent (so you probably heard how it goes for most of us) if he wants to play, i'll let him outside to do actual physical stuff, or if its indoors, legos. (i mean, i spent literally thousands in the last few years for the bricks) thanks to yt, he does knows about video games, and occassionally speaks about it, but i hold it off for now, promising i'll eventually let him have my pc if he takes cares of his enough

@thepirate4095 3 ай бұрын

@@betara_indera_gunung_timur thats coola and all letting him play outside and have his childhood but what you do there is not really benefic for him, you could add some smart games like old building games like anno, maybe even warcraft 3 or civilization, of course, don't let him play games like fortnite and other stupid shooters, not for now at least, give him something for his brain, search those type of games if you never heard of them, those games should really help.his brain develop in amazing ways, especially at that age, you could let him play like 1-2 hours a day, nothing wrong with that even at his age, just dont buy him a phone yet, if hes on tiktok hes done

@thepirate4095 3 ай бұрын

@@betara_indera_gunung_timur what you do there is making him wanting to play more and more and he might just find an internet caffe one day and get addicted to the most awful games he can find, lol league of legends or counter strike, he has nothing to learn from those

@PizzaUndervolt 2 ай бұрын

in my experience the ddr3 version has only a couple mhz memory oc headroom but each counts a lot

@HedgehogY2K 2 ай бұрын

NAH! Shoot, this is a brand new crack at comparing these cards and you don't have Doom Eternal. That stinks.

@rajmangalpandey3910 3 ай бұрын

Even igpus deliver better performance than that.

@123dodo4 3 ай бұрын

Typically its cheaper and better to get a used desktop dell optiplex, and some had the SFF version.. the gt710 really is the middle guy between having a gpu on a tight psu, case, pci express version, and budget

@HedgehogY2K 2 ай бұрын

Wait what? The GT 710 shouldn't have NVENC period. Is there a variant that got special permission to add the silicon to do that? How and why? The GT 1030 only got G-Sync via a 2019 update. Shouldn't it be more classified as a dedicated accelerator over any 10 class card?

@jims_junk 2 ай бұрын

@HedgehogY2K The 710's with the 208B GPU have limited h264 encoding and decoding abilities. I too have read conflicting things from nvidia via their charts and spec sheets. I'll do a quick video demonstrating this.

@HedgehogY2K 2 ай бұрын

@@jims_junk I'll be looking forward to that.

@jims_junk 2 ай бұрын

@HedgehogY2K Very quick one but its posted: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp7Vm4GNlK9-qJo

@mattparker9726 3 ай бұрын

7:39 yeah obviously you're testing games that are too much for this little card. I'd LOVE to see you test stuff like the eXoDOS 6 emulation pack, as well as EARLY 2000s games like Battlefield Vietnam, Unreal Tournament 2003 (or is it 4?), Age of Empires, F.E.A.R., FarCry 2, some playstation X emulation, that sort of era of games. If I could buy both of these cards for $10 and shipping, that's what I'd use them for.

@zachbeckner 3 ай бұрын

@mattparker9726 I don't understand, he did show unreal tournament, fallout, nfs, portal 2, but also showed harder to render games. The point isn't to make the card look like its gold but to show how it handles in all sorts of situations. We all know the 710 is a low end card but its interesting to see how it does in larger games. If all he did was simple games like age of empires then other people would complain and say well what about larger harder to run games. If you're reviewing a car thats slow, you don't say well racing it down hill against a turtle it flew!

@mattparker9726 3 ай бұрын

@@zachbeckner yeah but I want it for a specific use case scenario, VIZ: building a dos/early 2000s rocket.

@JasperFoxo 3 ай бұрын

you know its bad when the integrated graphics of the cpu you chose is 30 percent better than the gt 730

@AshWeinstein 3 ай бұрын

I'm stuck using a laptop with a quadro k2000m The 710 is like a supercard in comparison

@InvidiousIgnoramus 3 ай бұрын

Curious. My first card was a GT 730 2GB DDR3 (the Kepler 384 core SKU), and I carefully weight my options between the 2GB DDR3 and 1GB GDDR5. I may have concluded incorrectly, but I personally believed that an extra GB of memory would be more useful, and that even low end games I was interested in would have not benefitted from the faster, half capacity memory. Actually held up pretty well, until I was able to afford to build a PC of my own with a GTX 960 4GB.

@Cyrillium 3 ай бұрын

0:29 you did not install the other one right. It should be x8 4.0 @ x8 4.0. The second one represents the gold lanes of the PCI lanes of the card - thus affecting the performance of the card.

@zachbeckner 3 ай бұрын

@Cyrillium You can't always go by that. I've had plenty of times where gpuz says one thing but WMIC or device manager showed the real info. I'm guessing that's probably whats happening here.

@rezamolaee1 4 ай бұрын

I have the worst version of 710, a DDR3 with 1GB VRAM and I love it.

@Russell970 3 ай бұрын

Can I ask why do you love it?

@rezamolaee1 3 ай бұрын

@@Russell970 Sure, I use it for testing, it's so hassle free so I love it.

@oggilein1 3 ай бұрын

there's a reason they still make the GT 710, large server owners love them for testing. they're hassle free, no worrying about power draw (the ddr3 version draws eveb less than the gddr5), low profile so theyll fit pretty much anywhere and well, they're cheap!

@randomweirdyoutubechannel8955 3 ай бұрын

I have a 1gb gddr5 710 got it for free going to swap it out with the 1660 in my other pc as it only gets used for Spotify and sell the 1660

@arnislacis9064 3 ай бұрын

There is also GeForce GT 1030 DDR4 version too.

@Stratotank3r 3 ай бұрын

This also applies to the GT1030. The DDR4 card is so crippled while the GDDR5 is a decent Low Cost Solution for KZbin and E-Sports. My daughter still uses a GT1030 GDDR5 and plays StarStable and other "Girl Games". Every OEM should be enforced to clearly mark the RAM Type and other cost savings on the box and on the silk screen.

@nvidiaplay 3 ай бұрын

tbh i5 6500 is still not that bad for "entry level gaming" - i could even play tarkov on it paired with gtx 1060 on 50-60 fps on most maps (excluding streets and lighthouse of course)

@janwitkowsky8787 3 ай бұрын

And here I am considering a GT 730 GDDR5 for a cheap-o WinXP rig.

@jims_junk 3 ай бұрын

lol not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious but just incase, do yourself a favor and stay away from the 710 and go for the 730. Huge difference in performance.

@janwitkowsky8787 3 ай бұрын

@@jims_junk Still going 730, rather than 710. But admittedly I was surprised of how well the 710 -5 model did in older games. If it can play GTA 5 like that, then it should be able to handle anything from 2004 to 2008

@iiisaac1312 4 ай бұрын

The stuttering is the 1% low FPS. So if a game runs at 130 FPS but has a 15 FPS 1% low, it will feel like it stutters instead of a smooth 130. One of the most frustrating thing about the 710 is that it didn't get included with NVK for Linux. Lots of these cards end up in servers, and because it isn't in NVK, people have to use the nvidia driver, which is Cancer + AIDS on Linux. If people want a low power GPU for their server that just works without messing with drivers, the Intel Arc A310 fits that bill. It's almost twice the price, but about 6-7 times faster.

@Jackpkmn 3 ай бұрын

Is there a configuration option for NVK I'm missing or something here? NVK does not net me even a fraction of the performance of the nvidia proprietary drivers on any of the cards I've tested (940MX, 1070, 3060 and 3070.)

@Lavadawg 3 ай бұрын

I hate old nvidia cards on linux, i have to wait hours when i update my kernel to linux 6.8 for example now i gotta pray to god someone releases a nvidia patch for my archaic gt 630 to work on nvidia 390 drivers on linux 6.8. Also dont worry i dont suffer anymore, i use a rx 480 now.

@iiisaac1312 3 ай бұрын

@@Jackpkmn Make sure you have Mesa installed, as that contains NVK. NVK doesn't come baked into the kernel by default as it is a userspace driver, not a kernel driver. NVK is only for 20 series and newer cards, so your 10 series won't work with it. You also need to be running at least the 6.7 kernel. See the Arch Wiki for both "Nouveau" and "Nvidia" for more details and make sure you aren't mixing driver types. I'm not 100% sure but I think installing the nvidia driver might blacklist the nouveau module, which would give you issues if you are trying to run with NVK as it will prevent it from loading.

@amdintelxsniperx 4 ай бұрын

quadro k420 2gb gddr5 128bit bus . hard to find this model as most are gddr3 but it exists and is about 5 to 8 frames faster do to 128bit bus

@hasnihossainsami8375 3 ай бұрын

If a GT710 suffers from low bandwidth at 12.8GB/s, I wonder how bandwidth constrained the Switch is. The Switch is over twice as fast as the GT710 DDR3, and also has basically double the bandwidth too. But then again Switch's bandwidth needs to be shared between the CPU and GPU, while the 710 DDR3 gets all the bandwidth for itself.

@reallyryan_ 3 ай бұрын

I really hope nobody games on these things... I mean modern games.

@AffectionateBeignets-mx2qd 3 ай бұрын

Is this card any good at streaming content in 1080p on KZbin, prime etc in older computers.

@Chlorindo 3 ай бұрын

Both beaten by UHD 630 and i regret buying it but still, good use for Ryzen no G cpu if strong GPU went downhill as a Backup (not playing games).

@peterpan408 3 ай бұрын

Yes, its faster, but its been a while since integrated GPU overtook them. Show it playing 4K Movies etc.. Is it still a Media Player?

@IntegerOfDoom 4 ай бұрын

How are they allowed to manufacture literal e-waste?

@1Fracino 3 ай бұрын

Anyone know if these cards can run Half-Life 2?

@jims_junk 3 ай бұрын

yup it can included that in a previous vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnOmq5trdrV-rJY

@1Fracino 3 ай бұрын

@@jims_junk ohh thank you !

@xj58 3 ай бұрын

portal 2 maybe can run almost on any crappy pc, optimization magic

@vitalyk1316 3 ай бұрын

Please compare with GT 730 GDDR3 now 🙂

@stevesmith1383 3 ай бұрын

It’s just ddr3, not gddr3. The 730 only comes in ddr3 and gddr5 versions Not to be annoying, but there is a difference Nvidia stopped making gddr3 cards….I want to say 400 series but I could be wrong

@me476210180 3 ай бұрын

Do GT 710 support UEFI GOP?

@amdintelxsniperx 4 ай бұрын

there is even a 128bit version of a gddr5 version lol

@manuelantonioalvarezalonso4042 3 ай бұрын

Sinceramente para el tipo de juegos que funcionan con ésa tarjeta no creo que se note la diferencia.

@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim 3 ай бұрын

do the same for gt730 ... i use a ddr5 gt730

@Super123456789Kuba 3 ай бұрын

Sure, the GDDR5 is better and you can game on older titles, (Minus GTA IV, that never ran well ANYWHERE you look.) but I would prefer a Low Profile AMD Radeon Card instead.

@canespastico 4 ай бұрын

the ddr5 is not that bad for what it is

@aftertheelectrike1847 4 ай бұрын

The GT 710 GDDR5 really is quite a bit better as a card in general.

@DatSun. 4 ай бұрын

who woulda thunk it

@N3xlow 3 ай бұрын

they are different gpus is not just the memory the gt710 ddr3 is just a rebranded gt520 is fermi (ddr3) and the other (gddr5) is kepler same as the other 7xx

@Matt2010 3 ай бұрын

Do not get the GT 710 one (cheap sure) but more media player then gaming, its terrible. GT 730 GDDR5 one is far better, of course someone will always complain even about that one, with some games. I don't use Windows though, and War Thunder for the 730 one is perfectly fine for me.