Don't forget that there were also fsb differences and memory speed differences which may contribute... 800Mhz fsb shared by both pentium D cores compared to 1066 or 1333Mhz unshared of the core 2 duo. The fsb has to be shared again when moving to the core 2 quads. Also core 2 never had hyperthreading but then again neither did pentium D only the high end versions unlike pentium 4s.

Hardly anyone upgraded from a C2D to these two either, most waited for Sandy Bridge.

I wanted to run CEMU on the FX 6300. The frame rate is disappointing at 15 fps. Even a faster graphics card doesn't help. This CPU is about two generations behind a Intel 3rd generation CPU. Even a Core i7 860 from 2009 is a bit faster.

I did a similar thing on a lower scale. Cmparing a Celeron 440 (Conroe-L, 2.0 GHz, 512k L2 cache, 200 MHz FSB, 35W TDP) against a Pentium 4 HT 631 (Cedar Mill, 3.0 GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 200 MHz FSB, 86W TDP) Yes, they run at different clocks, but we all know that NetBurst had low IPC, so it feels reasonably fair. And the Celeron came out on top in everything but 3DMark Vantage. What about overclocking? At 4.0 GHz the P4 pulls ahead, but the Celeron has headroom as well. And the one I had managed to go to 3.5 GHz, making the clock difference even smaller than stock.

From what I remember, Wolfdale/Yorkfield improved performance by about 6% on average over Conroe/Kentsfield Nehalem was mostly a frontend improvement. Integrating the memory controller, 3 level cache, native quad cores, hyperthreading.

I have a ThinkPad T440p with a GT 730M GK208 non-B and it does have working NVENC

Lol I have this card in my server because CPU needed a GPU to boot. TIL I can actually use it for something.

no they were 8 cores just cores who shared resources , but still 8

I had one of these explosives on my PC once.

My personal NVenc card is the Quadro P400, it's basically a cut-down GT1010 card iirc, but it has the same encoder and decoder in it as the other GTX10x cards, but it cost $40. Probably the best bang for your buck for a cheap Jellyfin server if you want to spend more on storage than computing.

Hm! I have a GT710 in a bucket somewhere (as my "oh no I need video" card). I'll see if it supports this and check the die.

is it worth upgrading an old I5 3570k for $50 to get the extra threads? I would think buying a new PC would be a better value.

Can u test gt210 to play a 4K video on windows media player

Where does one find this model of 710?

There's GT 710 models that use the GF119S core that came out later than the GK208 ones that very likely has no hardware encoder. I don't recall if my Galax GT 710 had the GK208 or GK208B die, but either way I was never able to get the NVENC part going on that one. Never knew if it was a lack of software support thing or drivers because I know I had problems with Handbrake and OBS among other programs where NVENC just doesn't get detected.

Good video. Checking online, the GK208B variant of the die isn't supposed to have it either, though here it's clearly shown as encoding via Nvenc. I'm wondering if it's due to lack of proper documentation? Makes me want to get a GT 710 myself to figure out more about the encoder. I already have three Kelper GPUs, the GTX 680, GTX 780, and the GTX Titan Black. I wonder if the GT710 encoder is the same as those or different?

i love this video: scientific approach to basically useless questions that i never knew i wanted to know about ❤ the pentium 4 arch is what happens when executives and marketing drive a company, let's get a higher ghz number to sell 😂 AMD has always been so much more forward thinking and back then with the athlon64 it was not even fun how ahead they were. It is similar now with zen5 vs core ultra

in my experience the ddr3 version has only a couple mhz memory oc headroom but each counts a lot

I know I built at least a few Blue-Iris security systems, that used PCIe frame-grabber cards for the per-exisiting analog cam's and used GT 710's to encode/livestream the SD streams in h.264

Wow, though that is a very explicit use case scenario. I personally don't use Handbrake because it was shifting the colors to look orange compared to it's bluray counterpart. I can't reliably use that use software due to my experience. Sides, I've been learning how to use Blender somewhat effectively anyhow. But thanks for showing this. It's certainly more than what the RX 6500 XT can say that's for sure.

Gt1010 ti 4 way sli?

Very little noticeable difference if any between the 3770 and 4770. Either CPU is perfectly fine for daily use, (whether the person be a gamer or just a casual daily computer user)!

Perfect

i5 4570 Intel HD 4600.i3 6500 Intel HD 530.

Wait what? The GT 710 shouldn't have NVENC period. Is there a variant that got special permission to add the silicon to do that? How and why? The GT 1030 only got G-Sync via a 2019 update. Shouldn't it be more classified as a dedicated accelerator over any 10 class card?

NAH! Shoot, this is a brand new crack at comparing these cards and you don't have Doom Eternal. That stinks.

the gt 710 is a menace to the GPU society. Except the 710 can be a emergency display adapter (the r7 240 too but better). 240 is available for only 12 to 13 dollars and the gt 710 is for around 25 (?) to 40 in my country...

I need Windows 10 Lowest Version for gaming for playing these new released but low demanding requirements games like Red dead redemption 1 & metal gear solid volume 1: Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7600 @ 3.06GHz 3.07 GHz R.A.M: 4.00 GB RAM GRAPHIC CARD: NVIDIA GeForce GT 710

VMware has better performance than virtual box

At 06:13 I don't get why you concluded that, as all your tests showed the 1.8 Core 2 Duo being a bit better than the 3.4 Pentium D.

Frame times are better on the 710 because it has dedicated ram, compared to shared DDR4 ram from the CPU

Good video, straight to the point. Thanks.

Depending on the BIOS, you can overclock the iGPU as well 🤔 sometimes even with voltage adjustments Also interesting would be how the iGPU would perform on DDR3 vs DDR4, as the 6th generation supports both.

Thanks. The results were about what I expected. The HD 530 trading blows with the GT 710 GDDR5. I got a UHD 630 with my i5 8500T and its fine for me since I don't do much graphically intensive stuff and the hardware encode/decode with QuickSync is quite nice considering older Intel HD Graphics (like pre HD 530 ones) have QuickSync problems or flat out is not detected. Weirdly I've been on a search for kinda modern iGPU performance but on a dedicated PCIE GPU form so its power efficient compared to my RX 5600XT when I don't need the GPU horsepower. Only the RX 550 is a somewhat reasonable purchase price-wise since the GT 1030 is like 2~2.5x of a RX 550.

When I worked a repair shop, our top of the line was 700 or 900 series. They always had a GT 740 4G available and we used it occasionally. Seemed like a decent light gamer card, nowadays crippled by no Vulkan, but was a decent card in its own right. Could you find one of those and test it?

well you could find that temperature sensor from powersupply and extend it to the CPU heatsink to get that psu fan control

GDDR5 indeed helps GT 710 a lot, back then it's almost only half as fast as HD 530

In fact, 7850 is NOT actually athlon 64 cpu, it's something in middle between athlon 64 and athlon 2. Real athlon 64 it's like Athlon 64 x2 3800+, 4400+ and so on. 7850 even was named as Athlon X2 7850, without x64. It's with l3 cache, what was only in Phenoms before(and many time after).

What was used in virtualbox? Emulation or kvm?

I think some of it also came down to driver optimization. Like for instance, I saw the HD 530 perform better in DX11 but struggle in DX9 in comparison. Reminds me a lot of Arc gpus today and how weird their drivers were, especially with them having to emulate DX9 support

I would definitely use the HD 530 more, for one thing, I wouldn't need to occupy that GPU slot with as something as weak as GT 710, and for another - Codecs, I would rather to convert/render videos faster.

Amazing iGPU. GTA settings?

i noticed that some drivers migh limit fps to 30 for intel

I enjoyed the video, thanks.

Good video. Just for fun, I tried Batman Arkham Asylum on a gt 710 1gb ddr3 that has 8x's electrical (A tiny fanless card that is great for troubleshooting) and on the Intel 770 graphics (13700k cpu). I overclocked both, I got 2000mhz stable on the Intel graphics and didn't get far on the gt 710, +40 on the core and +110 on the memory. The Intel 770 graphics was a LOT faster, it held a locked 60fps with the highest settings at 1440p. The gt 710 was limited to 1080p with medium settings and averaged around 45fps if my memory serves me correctly. I was surprised at the Intel 770 graphics.

The thing is that while the GT710 is more or less useless nowadays, the HD530 still has 'certain' use cases, namely H.265 QuickSync encoding (QSV). While recording/streaming with OBS, you can just offload the encoding to the iGPU. Of course, modern GPUs have great encoders, and by "modern" I mean Pascal/Polaris or newer, so you're only going to notice a ~2-3% performance difference. But on older cards, it can be pretty significant.

Intel really improved a lot with 530, i remember original gt 710 ddr3 beating hd 4000 and ones that came before it easily. I put one in a cheap dell with 3470 and it worked like a charm, later down the road, I got a 1030 gddr5 and the i5 was bottlenecking it so I got a 3770.

woa these results were very interesting! i was expecting the 710 to lose in every game

Upgrading/ sidegrading to an iGPU of the same era is NOT something I ever thought was possible

Actually the HD 530 has 192 shaders, like the 710. 24 is the number of execution units, which have 8 shaders each, even on newer Intel graphics.