Amusingly, or perhaps depressingly, the fail division that I was annoyed by had members that far outperformed many of my T7 teammates. Not sure what that says about my team.
@patrickcloete5896 жыл бұрын
am here
@Cailus35426 жыл бұрын
Flamu One semi-competent player in an Omaha can beat an idiot in a Myoko. What’s depressing is how often it feels like we see it happening, with top tier ships performing poorly and bottom tier ships carrying the game.
@ggkavlos6 жыл бұрын
Flamu Actually you can manipulate MM in fail division, team up with a Langley with Julio Cesar and you become the top dog, I know it's dirty but it's an option to deal with stupid WG mission
@nathanhartanto25446 жыл бұрын
The most depressing thing ever was when fail dived in a NY and topped the scoreboard. Thanks for that NY commentary, Flamu.
@martinwolf62026 жыл бұрын
yeah I wanted to mention that as well, the T-22 traded basically with the Maas and the one Isokaze sunk a cruiser.
@MIO9_sh6 жыл бұрын
actually the issue about shells failing to hit on beached target is not the fault of the WOWs code itself, it's more about the fact that when your ship is moving not directly toward the target, you're also giving the shells a horizontal velocity vector (because your ship itself have some speed when sailing around) in addition to the initial shell velocity when you fire, altering the resultant course of the shells and finally make the shell land slightly off the target by the direction your own ship is moving. It's annoying , but WG did made the shells physics realistic....
@cristianfernandezmoreno57816 жыл бұрын
Nope, your ships movement isn't taken into account in WOWS, look into War Thunder and you'll quickly notice the difference
@MIO9_sh6 жыл бұрын
@@cristianfernandezmoreno5781 well i actually rethink about this problem recently.... and found out wows really ignore the ship movement, as it doesnt seems to hit the target moving parallel to you in same speed same direction without leading the target
@RobTzu6 жыл бұрын
I play t6 I get t8 mm. I get t8, then get t10 mm. damn troll game
@axeltruth48446 жыл бұрын
RobTzu 1 yup, cleavland constantly gets t8 mm and Benson seems to always get t10. It’s weird
@RedShirtGuy966 жыл бұрын
Play tier 10 then
@RobTzu6 жыл бұрын
Edgy. I haven't seen such wit in ages.
@RedShirtGuy966 жыл бұрын
RobTzu 1 in all fairness I personally hate tier 6 and 7 matchmaking as well. In my opinion tier 8s fare better in tier 10 matches than tier 6s do in tier 8 matches. So I have no problem playing anything tier 8 and up. Usually at tier 8 ships have all the tools they need to survive matches. Its when the radar lines get their radar. When the dd lines become the most flexible and the BB lines get the ability to bow tank non-yamato shells.
@RobTzu6 жыл бұрын
Every so often getting t10 mm in t8 is ok, but getting every time is unenjoyable. I looked forward to my Richeliue but now that I got, it is just frustrating. Getting to t10 is good, but it does nothing to make that t8 ship more fun to play. I will most likely end up selling it once I hit t9.
@Duckquek174 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your reviews, no flattery or bullshit of any kind. Just pure honest relevant facts, along with a few life lessons sprinkled here and there.
@despinoza62056 жыл бұрын
Thx for the update. I especially thought the reminder about AP was important. It's frequently overlooked in favor of the excellent HE
@ResistLight6 жыл бұрын
once u get the zao ull never look back again
@Xavier_LD6 жыл бұрын
Zao is kinda mediocre due to lots of power creep though.
@rageusran6 жыл бұрын
Tom Chen Zao is still one of the best cruiser in the game. Even they have a lot of power creep. I would prefer zao over others T10 cruiser anyday.
@Itsallgoodtogo6 жыл бұрын
The only thing that makes Zao feel like it has been power creeped ... Lack of effective consumables. Other than that ... its a great allrounder.
@vae94306 жыл бұрын
Got the Zao months ago, played it 3 times x)
@Itsallgoodtogo6 жыл бұрын
Va e yeah it's not a fun ship since it has no special quirks. But it is consistent :)
@dmgill836 жыл бұрын
Don't take this the wrong way, but its nice to see that you are occasionally susceptible to matchmaking instead of always coming out on top. ;-)
@Juggy006 жыл бұрын
Always makes me wonder what goes on in some players heads... that BB is unfortunately usually 60% of your team
@Gyphon6 жыл бұрын
Sad as it is...this is why I keep a 19pt capt in my Aoba. I enjoy this ship.
@estoyaqui53866 жыл бұрын
What is your captain-build? I rebought Aoba recently and have a 12pts captain for her.
@Hombremaniac6 жыл бұрын
Well it's not sad. You just like bit of a seal clubbing, is all.
@shoukatsukai6 жыл бұрын
Still prefer Furutaka for clubbing... T5 is easier. And Myoko ends up much better in uptiers than Aoba tbh
@Hombremaniac6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Flamu restraining himself from swearing like a sailor, when something is not as it should be. Perhaps it's a sign of things to come?
@greasemonkey63626 жыл бұрын
Aww Flamu that Fluie bug really got you :( Sending lots of get better wishes . Thank you for this series I am at the Myoko ( all 6 of them ) grinding S L O W L Y as I am not the best CA player :)
@25xxfrostxx6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the Aoba and it is one of my favorite T6 cruisers. I totally agree on Defensive AA over hydro. The defensive AA combined with the Aoba's short length and great maneuverability make it very hard for a carrier to torpedo, particularly if the carrier can't manual drop. Also, you don't want to be pushing smoke with the long 203mm reload so that limits the usefulness of hydro and the fighter plane functions as a poor man's hydro anyway, especially if you take the captain skill to have two of them up.
@ewn956 жыл бұрын
Aoba is one of my favorites too, her defensive aa is great, better than Mogami
@SlmTm-ou5mt6 жыл бұрын
If you ever look back at the t9 French BB, I would recommend a secondary build from what I’ve seen of it. Imagine Bismarck secondaries on it.
@JN-ug5ky6 жыл бұрын
WoT is doing a great job at preventing fail divisions.
@pedjamar226 жыл бұрын
Great video thx for detailed explanation!! Cheers mate !
@livnick83546 жыл бұрын
"Your idiot, you ate all the torpedoes!"
@martyrudd53856 жыл бұрын
Biggest difference between Furutaka and Aoba is rate of fire on the 203s. The Furutaka's is in the same 15 second range as the rest of the line. But the Aoba's stands out from the rest at about 10 seconds, making for better DPM than the Furu to hunt DDs with. Without this there would be virtually no upgrade from tier 5 to 6 in the line. Then, at 7 you go from 3 turrets to 5, but back to 15 second reloads. Second noticeable change is the Aoba begins the normal (for IJN) rear Quadrant torpedo arch, while the Furu has an arch similar to other cruisers or DDs. Overall I love the line and play tier 5 to 8 in it often. I have a Zao, but detest top tier game play meta.
@axeltruth48446 жыл бұрын
I thought speed boost didn’t affect speed when active if your engine brakes, even with last stand? Am I thinking of something else
@cm1971it6 жыл бұрын
Hello Flamu, thanks for the great content here on youtube. Can you help me with a question about the US cruiser split ? What will happen to my T6 Cleveland and my T8 New Orleans I have in port ? Will I get the new T8 Baltimore for free ? Will my T6 Cleveland be upgraded to the new T8 Cleveland or will i just get the new T6 Pensacola ?
@exaltdragon6 жыл бұрын
12:45 So if a cruiser gets caught broadside on to a BB, it should ground itself and become immune to cits? SeemsGood
@Panservogn6 жыл бұрын
You shud have gotten the win, you did well.
@deanoliv28806 жыл бұрын
enjoying ur ijn cruiser guide
@dextercochran49166 жыл бұрын
Doesn't it just KILL you when you're doing EVERYTHING right and those one or two bumblefucks on your team just potato the win away?
@Ensign_Cthulhu6 жыл бұрын
It kills me when not only does this happen, but also a potato like me is either the last player left alive or best on team at the end (or both), because it means everyone else on my team was worse. Bonus aggravation points when I get a personal-best damage total for that particular ship and the loss costs me hugely in terms of potential XP for the grind.
@AndrejD3036 жыл бұрын
kind of sad when you realize that atago has same fire rate as aoba (10 every 16 seconds vs 6 every 10)
@pinkyandbrain1236 жыл бұрын
Hi Flumy hope you and Flambass find a suitable new home 🙂
@bullreeves11096 жыл бұрын
BrainzZzZz Did they really remove him to?
@pinkyandbrain1236 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@lamri13uk6 жыл бұрын
BrainzZzZz Whats happened?
@pinkyandbrain1236 жыл бұрын
Answer on Flambass' channel: Flambass Wow 4 out of 5 comments are: "Why you leave OMNI" They didn't want me and a lot of others there They were kinda blaming the streamers for their dedication to streaming and losing the games Now let's move away from the subject kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqSsY6ihaLybhZY
@bullreeves11096 жыл бұрын
Matt Green OMNI Kicked Flamu and Flambass out of there clan.
@Thenotsofamousone6 жыл бұрын
my favorite ijn cruiser bought it back and got the premium camo for it
@Panservogn6 жыл бұрын
Yay new flamu video.
@vk45de544 жыл бұрын
Aoba isn't an upgrade to the Furutaka. The guns are like 30% faster reload but the handling is worse in every way - turrent traverse, turn radius, rudder shift.
@marc61606 жыл бұрын
can you make a guide on the october révolution ?
@silentblu59686 жыл бұрын
I love the furutaka, it shown me the power of the Japanese cruiser teir. and prob gonna be my next video.
@Rymbaba6 жыл бұрын
Flamu can you make your next video about this ninja nerf that Missouri recieved? There's something wrong about this ship right now. Dispersion is horrible.
@Trygvar136 жыл бұрын
I never got past the Aoba in the IJN line. I had some great games in it but most of the time I find myself bottom tier and end doing next to no damage.
@Gundolf3006 жыл бұрын
Patrick Marchand You stopped to soon. Myoko is a gamechanger.
@sl4lrodi6 жыл бұрын
The best CA line and u stopped? Mogami and Zao are so much fun
@Trygvar136 жыл бұрын
I just played 7 games in it. All of them Tier VIII and all of them losses. 30k to go to Myoko. I don't think I will play it again :)
@Gundolf3006 жыл бұрын
Patrick Marchand Well, it might be that you're playing them wrong. They excell at sneaking up close, spamming torps and he. You can burn down anything with these ships and myoko can even citadel a gneis. Doesn't get much more bad ass than that....
@Hombremaniac6 жыл бұрын
I was also annoyend with the short range of their guns. Made it to T7 and did not play it for a very long time.
@nicodemus77846 жыл бұрын
I hate it when games end like that. I wish kills would extend the time limit in the final minute.
@luukvanhamersveld97505 жыл бұрын
First game in it I got a kraken and 120k dmg :)
@Animefreakah6 жыл бұрын
Wait, is this an old replay? I thought when you division with someone you can only pick the same tier ships as everyone in the division. Maybe iam confused with WoT or maybe they made the division after the game had started.
@Maximum4456 жыл бұрын
In divisions in WOWS you are allowed a 1 tier difference up or down. So in the vid the top tier in the div is the T5 meaning that the div can have up to T6 or T4. Matchmaking on the other hand decides to murder you and throw you into games with a 2-3 tier difference. Wargamming did change the division mechanics so instead of been able to bring a T3 into a T10 game it is now just a one Tier difference, so you can't have a T4, T5 and T6 in a div.
@OniDemo6 жыл бұрын
+flamu I dont agree with the fail platoon comment. People want to play together. Its not their fault that a 1 tier difference landed them in a tier 7 game. If it was a tier 6 with 2 tier 4s i'd agree, but a 1 tier difference is no fault of theirs. Basically you just said "fuck you. Go play without your friends and wait for them to catch up" instead of "they got unfortunate MM while queuing up" even though that's what it was.
@RedShirtGuy966 жыл бұрын
H D I'm part of a huge clan. This game indeed is good with friends. Anyone who cant afford to division in the same tier is just an inexperienced player. When you have dozens of clanmates with ports filled with tier 10s and 50 other ships. The game is quite enjoyable. You just randomly pick a tier and div up and have fun.
@OniDemo6 жыл бұрын
so you are saying people who dont have anything higher than a tier 4, but their friend has a tier 5 are inexperienced? Thanks for that wonderful insight. Nobody could have figured that out. That didnt address what we were talking about Mr. "I a part of a huge clan." What we were talking about was the fact that if they have no way to play on the same tier short of their friend staying at Tier 4 and spending money to convert the exp they gain that they could gain on their tier 5, or not playing with their friends at all because of the chance MM will fuck them and put them in a tier 7 match.
@RedShirtGuy966 жыл бұрын
BalisticChampion1 again all of that becomes moot when you have a decent clan that has enough people in it so that you can always division in the same tier. Even if you are a new player. If you join a large enough community they will be able to support you.
@OniDemo6 жыл бұрын
You are still saying they arent allowed to play with their friends and the one with the ship 1 tier higher should just sit around and wait until their friends catch up with help from clanmates. That's not how people are. If people want to play with their friends, they should be allowed without getting punished severely for 1 tier difference. Getting angry at people and calling them a fail platoon even though they had no control over what match they were put in when wanting to play with their friend is both stupid, and unnecessary.
@RedShirtGuy966 жыл бұрын
BalisticChampion1 Yes. This is a game that favors commitment and time investment. If you can't commit then you shouldn't expect to excel. Call it elitism, but at the end of the day the people who refuse to commit won't enjoy the game and may eventually drop it and those who did will reach endgame and enjoy it.
@SvenMl786 жыл бұрын
The most annoying in WoWs: Guys who pinging on the Map, like a Spambot...but not writing in Chat, what they mean...i hate it!
@junkiexl865 жыл бұрын
Nowhere near as cancerous as watching player after player fire HE at a broadsided ship...
@ConfusedBlueDragon6 жыл бұрын
To be fair I cannot stand players who both choose to play as a Battleship *and* stay at the very far back... My past experiences with unresponsive players like that tell me that unless you get extremely lucky and win, you're gonna lose no matter what...
@shchorss6 жыл бұрын
I lose games even when I do push aggressively as a BB. What usually happens is that I will push a cap, get focus fired, tank damage for my cruisers/dds but only to realize that when I've blown through 2 repair parties and I'm sitting at half health, that my cruisers are sitting on the B line trying to snipe ships on the other side of the map.
@junkiexl865 жыл бұрын
@@shchorss We should meet up in game then if you like to be aggressive as a BB. My best matches are always when I find a BB and DD willing to push with me, esp in my DM.
@stevenfu5126 жыл бұрын
Aoba or upcoming t6 Pensacola??
@bullreeves11096 жыл бұрын
hair clip 2nd Wait till they are out,
@Terrathrax6 жыл бұрын
WG should do something to help these poor, sad IJN cruisers.
@thomasbernecky20786 жыл бұрын
you need an update since the buffs here, FL. Like the new Furutaka.
@soffici14 жыл бұрын
Hi Flamu, I know it's an old video but you said that someone playing tier 4 is pretty new to the game, so there is no point in telling them anything. Then you complain that high-tier players are clueless.. In this game you had a chance to improve someone's performance while he's still at a low tier, and therefore more willing to learn than someone already at tier 10, yet you decide not to. Feels like a shame to me
@randomguy-tg7ok6 жыл бұрын
"Almost identical turret and torpedo setups". Yes, because Aoba can shot torps forward without turning broadside.
@la_potat60656 жыл бұрын
Which is why Furutaka >>>>>>> Aoba - all cause of that forward torp arcs , something that will forever be missed in high tier IJN Cruisers except Takao Class... Aoba is pretty meh and a copy and pasted Furutaka - Myoko is where the real fun starts for IJN Cruisers honestly...
@BHuang925 жыл бұрын
Hated this ship. The Furutaka does ok in its tier and a bit above but I really cant make the Aoba work. It struggles in higher tiers, being weak armor, meh guns terrible AA and torps. So frustrating when par with terrible teams.
@hpwan26 жыл бұрын
never under estimate the foolishness of your teammates..
@king-mihai6 жыл бұрын
W E E B S
@relhimp6 жыл бұрын
14:15 Omae wa mou shindeiru
@ivaniii97076 жыл бұрын
N-nani!!!
@Kletterhase6 жыл бұрын
[Influenza]Flamu (?)
@cfjruth6 жыл бұрын
Games like this are so frustrating. You have an amazing game, but your teammates can't even show a temporary glimmer of competency to help. Potatoes gonna potato.
@phungtrungkien36896 жыл бұрын
Speaking of fail div, I was in a Konigsberg while my div mate is an Orion and we ended up against tier 7. But in the end our div along with an Indianapolis killed 9 out of the enemy ships (Mine 2, my Orion 3 and 4 for the Indianapolis)
@TheD2JBug6 жыл бұрын
The Furious Taco was always a favorite of mine. I can't help feeling the Aoba is a slight downgrade
@shchorss6 жыл бұрын
It's because you can't club little tier 4 seals.
@michaelstanley11126 жыл бұрын
troll div,. For example: one T7 CV, and two T9 ships. identifical CV MM will only get you into a T7 CV games. T9 ships are guaranteed top tier
@MRapapp6 жыл бұрын
Michael Stanley you can only team +-1 Tier so your thought isn't possible to do
@tragedyofwind6 жыл бұрын
or use a T7 and team up with T8. if you got drag to T9, a random T7 CV player will get into a T9 game. you are trolling the enemy CV
@saltytattie8336 жыл бұрын
I tend to go against T8 mm more than T7
@KingofStreet35 жыл бұрын
I feel like she's abit to squishy
@Javaman926 жыл бұрын
See, here is my problem, when that BB played so stupidly I would have been furious. I have a hard time with stupid. I'm to the point where I play this game sparingly because it just isn't good for my blood pressure. lol
@vlad78th6 жыл бұрын
Aoba rudder shit time is much better thanks to rudder upgrade which make her much more survivable against BBs. Kurutaka turns like a brick and take AP volleys pretty poorly from any angle.
@RedShirtGuy966 жыл бұрын
vlad78th you must be new to heavy cruiser play. Getting raped by battleship AP from every angle is totally normal. Thats why you use terrain concealment and situational awareness to dictate the match to your terms
@andrechapetta6 жыл бұрын
Ai Jay Ene
@wesley_b6 жыл бұрын
Rough loss... potato team mates are the most frustrating aspect of this game.
@degtarev956 жыл бұрын
umm its not eyoba its aoba
@Zelectrocutica6 жыл бұрын
btw, flamu. maybe you should take a break 2-3 days.
@Eveseptir6 жыл бұрын
Damn :(
@Erick_The_Green6 жыл бұрын
i had the flu for a month, ridiculous
@SuperSadBois6 жыл бұрын
flamu, facecam when?
@Naesil896 жыл бұрын
Every tuesday on his stream.
@dejosss6 жыл бұрын
I love ur accent lmao
@Raptor7476 жыл бұрын
You can get six kills, you can play all of the objectives...but you have fail teammates, so you--you lost that one. That was a lose.
@jason41a6 жыл бұрын
Cough cough
@gilo13036 жыл бұрын
No disrespect meant, but guys like you and my flatmate worry me. You've done very well. Thanks for the vid. I just don't trust it at all. - Jus saying Go and play Counter-Strike. (player since 2003) My best learner was "Stalker"/. Played it?
@Xingmey6 жыл бұрын
2 tier 4 and 1 tier 5 are not a failplatoon, it is failed matchmaking for making them go into a tier 6 battle. they have done nothing wrong
@RedShirtGuy966 жыл бұрын
Foxi! No. You should never ever div out of tier.
@Wildboy00016 жыл бұрын
vgj
@MrAwsomeshot6 жыл бұрын
it is pronounced egg-lee
@JoeMun6 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but you definitely could have killed the Aigle at the end. That was poor shooting, and you also didn’t use your rear turret to try and have more shells flying
@Naesil896 жыл бұрын
Could have but didn't he also could have killed 10 ships instead of 6 and win that way, see backseat gaming is easy!
@JoeMun6 жыл бұрын
jjarvinen this wasn’t tho, when it’s all said and done it’s kill the Aigle or lose. And the shooting wasn’t the best