AoS 4.0!! Skaven vs Hedonites of Slaanesh | Warhammer Age of Sigmar Battle Report

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[@bsBing0]

Love seeing Slaanesh! With temptation dice, you cant use them for hit rolls so they can't trigger crit auto wound. Thanks for the vid!

[@shinankoku2]

I just love the cheekiness of many of the Slaneesh rules with depravity dice and ‘you first, I insist’.

[@gurtana]

I love this channel. I especially like that you edit down a whole potentially really long battle report into the nuts and bolts, add good production values on the top with narrative elements and thematic music. You could have just released sloppy live play battle reports with zero editing and repost that to save you time, but kudos to you for actually editing and using post production skills to enhance the game videos.

[@bloodbathnbeyond]

FYI, can’t use 6s for hit dice, ward rolls can’t be made for damage by the fane.

[@Skinnyperegrine]

Skaven seem to be in an interesting position where we want to somewhat castle up to protect our valuable gun line, but also have so many cool mobility rules (that end up leaving fragile units exposed). I'm excited to figure out some good skaven lists (besides Jezzail spam)!

[@paingenerator8338]

Jezzail spam is looking like the best option atm, unfortunately. I feel like GW had no idea what the hell to do with us this edition. I'm trying to remain optimistic, but this batrep is making me less than excited for 4th, more so than seeing our mediocre index.

[@rotm4447]

@@paingenerator8338 the book has 3 good units, jezzails, stormfiends, acolytes.

[@scottmills4164]

The Skaven index is full of holes. It's hard to even build lists. Losing pieces from each clan, some things are just not good, it's looking rough. Hopefully when the book comes out there is some improvement.

[@rotm4447]

@@scottmills4164 They're really fragile, and they need some kind of anti-cav and some kind of durable anvil that can camp points and make people scared of coming into it like annihilators or wardens.

[@EtharealBTB]

Just a few things - Crit Mortals don't work with ranged attacks, and you cant ward the damage from the Fane of Slaanesh, which specifically states: "Allocate D3 damage points to the target (ward rolls cannot be made for those damage points). "

[@PhoenixExcess]

Wish we could have seen more than just a million archers but I understand that pain of army painting.

[@SeasonofWar]

Painted up 10 Painbringers after this match, so they'll be in the next game!

[@IbragimKastBsd]

​@@SeasonofWarnice!

[@rotm4447]

when you're trying to showcase but your whole collection is too sweaty.

[@jamesguillette3878]

worth noting, Jezzails +1 to hit if they didnt move is only in the controlling players movement phase, so it doesnt work on covering fire. Also cant use temptation dice on hit rolls

[@JoeVonFo]

Glory to the Prince of Darkness! (this comment was written when the video was only teased and is as a result, not indicative of the end result)

[@KarsunaOG]

dude your paint is gonna look sick on that Slaanesh army.

[@user-dr4iv5rs2v]

This was brilliant guys thank you so much for sharing your channel with us you teach so much about the game please keep it coming 👹👹👹👹👍

[@frankfurterberus]

Jezzails should be your honor guard every time.

[@salv.6948]

always love your batreps- really wish you still had the written overlays for battle tactic and command point abilities etc -when I was first learning AoS 3rd edition, your earlier videos really helped me learn that edition gameplay and why things were happening in game. Really hope you bring them back with this new 4th edition batreps.

[@frankfurterberus]

You know blissbarb archers are insanely good when you figure you can try “offering of carnage” on *round one*

[@mmr6849]

Somebody already mentioned the fane and crit mortals on shooting, but given the companion rule, slickblades mount attacks can’t be affected by Euphoric :)

[@Marcineska]

I think they can, you cant change attack characteristic or attack sequence - you can still give weapon abilities.

[@mmr6849]

@@Marcineska weapon abilities affect the attack sequence

[@Marcineska]

@@mmr6849 do they now... wow slaanesh is so shit now, im so sad xD

[@armoredpanzer]

really the only thing i noticed was Ridge wasnt rolling to see if he took damage from using the temptation dice. Really happy to see a comp video using the new HoS gives me lots of hope.

[@SeasonofWar]

Oh shoot I totally forgot about that part of it!

[@Kircholm]

With the new edition you could switch list so that each regiment listed as whole, For example Bastian Vindictors Vindictors Kharzi Fulminators x2 Liberators ..... Any way, as always love your reports

[@SeasonofWar]

Great idea!

[@jaquenekker2238]

Sick bat rep hate to see archer spam being so good tho🤣

[@kapitankapital6580]

It's interesting that pretty much every AoS army that's based on a WHFB army has had fairly dramatic redesigns, but Skaven has stayed almost exactly the same both in terms of units and general aesthetic. Personally I'd kinda hoped now that the Great Horned Rat is an "official" Chaos God they would lean a bit more into the body horror/transformation side of the lore; Skaven have ALWAYS been able to turn other races into Skaven in the lore and I wanted to see a bit more of that in the narrative and model range.

[@jtowensbyiii6018]

They are, they teased a new massive monster

[@gwell2118]

Forgot it’s crit 2 for ALL weapons. Shooting too. Being able to give that crit mortal now I understand the method behind the euphoric keyword and it needing a downside.

[@noicebois941]

you can't give crit(mortals) to shooting I think

[@mresclave1731]

@@noicebois941 You're right, the Crit (mortal) is only on melee. Still, crit (2 touch) on shot and crit (mortal) on melee is a great buff for a big blob of Blissbard archers.

[@adamwanat8914]

Crit Mortal only on melee weapons

[@HermitGray]

@@adamwanat8914 where does it says Crit Mortal only works on melee weapons? just read the core books and this restriction is nowhere to be seen

[@assistantref5084]

@@HermitGray it's not the core rules, it's the spell.

[@renaukint8264]

Next time a not so one sided army, i get the blissbars are ok, and minimize impact of the ability, anyways a nice demonstration of really going all in, double turn and 3 euphoric, loved that part, Shalaxi is a beast

[@renaukint8264]

Curious on the Slaanesh list and how the faction ability will work out

[@jean-francoisnormand673]

Best haircut meta. P.S. The crystal OSL archers look amazing!

[@rollnycgaming2279]

Awesome game! I'm glad the double has some more risk in this edition. But I still don't love it, I'm one of those who never have. If you're in a position to table the opponent with a double turn, that doesn't make it a very difficult decision whether or not to take it. 😅

[@jtowensbyiii6018]

The alternative to the double turn, is winning turn 1

[@assistantref5084]

Blissbarbs not going down to 12" kind-of illustrates why basically everything else did.

[@rotm4447]

most comparable foot archers are like 18" still.

[@JackCawood]

Bow snakes and sentinels are range 18” and have crit auto wound.

[@assistantref5084]

@@JackCawood And they had 24" range previously. Most stuff went down 6" in range; blissbarbs somewhat oddly stayed the same.

[@ands1983]

@@assistantref5084 They are made of cardboard, the others are not.

[@OldManRogers]

Well edited

[@Definitely.not_0li]

At 25:42 why didn’t ridge skitterleap the mounted dude instead of the grey seer to deny the battle tactic?

[@RidgeHanna]

Bexause Ridge is a dumb dumb! LOL Yeah just new edition stuff. I have gotten much better t things like that already, I promise ;)

[@jb87rell]

Skaven let's go!

[@davidraine8686]

Just a few mistakes in the game. Can’t use the temptation dice for hit rolls, only wound, save, ward and run

[@umpac123]

and charge (assuming you have 2)

[@Serra7racon]

Strange note: Am I the only one who has issues with the contrast of the minatures and the floorplans? I do love the floorplans and the nice Battlefields, but the top view is quite hard to see the armies well.

[@John.mm93]

Mounts shouldn’t have gotten the crit mortal. It modifies the attack sequence

[@chargingfromdeepstrike_studios]

thats what i thought.

[@JackCawood]

@@John.mm93 depends on when this battle report was played. Before they changed the companion rule on Monday you definitely could get crit 2 hits on companions.

[@scheikundeiscool4086]

@@JackCawood ????

[@DNolan1919]

Feels like skrye might not be the most effective build for skaven... Be interesting to see how it comes out over the next few months and what moulder can do...

[@zeria354]

love the quality and style of battle rep, top tier for those youtube. But besides the rules mistakes (always happens in new editions) , I wonder for such a big channel, why use unpainted models considering how many armies the channel has , unless of course its because this style of Slaanesh army is 'in meta strong' so you want to show it and get more hits. Its a slight critic I know but considering the quality of production , unpainted models really lowers it to me as a hobby focused player

[@haugheymatt4381]

Hey guys, at 48:04 the blissbarbs shot the stormvermin, wasn't the sight blocked by that terrain? Great video!

[@Strade8]

12:55 too on the hellpit.. I think most player have to get use that terrain actually matters in this edition.

[@Peter.B.S]

The Manifestations actually doesn't count as a unit in movement phase, so I don't believe there needs to be a 9" gap between the opponents unis and the manifestation during deep strike.

[@assistantref5084]

Ones that can move do count in the movement phase. Static ones don't.

[@craigmaxwell8352]

That is one beautiful game board!

[@TommyVincentMathieu]

I didn’t understand what was the combo with the Lord of Hubris taunt ?

[@SeasonofWar]

He forces you to fight him, or get strike-last

[@tombassett8454]

Love that battle mat where can I get it from? Great battle report btw 😊

[@damiangrootjans728]

So can you do an ‘all out attack’ after you determine how many attacks you make with random attack characteristics? For example frist roll the 3d6 and then decide if you want to spend cp for all out attack?

[@Papa_Koyote]

No, it's a reaction that says "you declared an attack", so you have to decide before rolling the number of attacks

[@Seses209]

Love the content, but as a Death player it also makes me real anxious... A lot of this game only carried on because BOTH sides had shooting, if I had to endure two turns of either volleys while only being able to fight chaff I think I might have lost my will to live haha

[@TheRealThirdME]

Jaws play already FAQed (never mind, leaving it here for context)

[@John.mm93]

@@TheRealThirdME what do you mean

[@TheRealThirdME]

@@John.mm93 it was used to screen turn 1, but neither of the manifestation types counts as a unit in the movement phase anymore (so he could have freely used the gnaw hole). This is my take on the rules, so I'm not saying this is 100. But it has been my understanding of what was changed with the FAQ)

[@orabbi]

That is only for manifestations with a "-" movement. Manifestations that can move count as a unit for movement, combat range,being in combat, and setting up other units

[@TheRealThirdME]

@@orabbi misremembered the wording on the FAQ 👍

[@reformedbugman703]

Giving the box car counter charge was a mistake

[@rotm4447]

you can either play the army or not until they change it.

[@reformedbugman703]

@@rotm4447 no need to be so defensive. Was it a mistake to give the free 12 inch charge? yes.

[@Laberding]

Can you still unbind the magical intervention after shelaxo casted her two spells?

[@Waywardpaladin]

Yes, Unbinds are a separate pool equal to your wizard power. Casts and Banishments are another pool. So you can do as many Unbinds as your wizard level and Casts+Banishments= to power level

[@Jenisandrul]

Power level is a limit on the number of spells or unbinds a wizard can attempt in a phase, if wizard is lvl2 and they cast 2 spells they cannot then unbind in the same phase. It the first thing stated under the magic rules. So no Shalaxi could not cast two spells and then unbind a spell in the same phase.

[@JackCawood]

@@Jenisandrulreread the magic section of the rules. It’s very clear that unbinds are in a separate pool as casts and you have access to both pools.

[@Jenisandrul]

@@JackCawood page 33 of the rules 1.1 POWER LEVEL Each Wizard and Priest has a power level, shown in brackets after the keyword, e.g. Wizard (2). A Wizard or Priest’s power level determines the number of Spell, Prayer or Banish abilities they can use per phase, in any combination. For example, a Wizard (2) unit could use 1 Spell and 1 Banish ability in their commander’s hero phase.

[@JackCawood]

@@Jenisandrul yep and that’s true for spell, prayer, and banish (unbinding manifestations). Same page 4.0 unbinding spells says you can unbind a number of times equal to your power level.

[@olafolafsson2755]

Do the mounts benefit from euphoric?

[@EtharealBTB]

I *think* they do, as it's not modifying the attack characteristic, however I'm not 100% tbh...

[@John.mm93]

No they don’t

[@EtharealBTB]

@@John.mm93 Does that mean Fiends of Slaanesh literally cant use the battle trait (since all of their attacks are companion weapons for some reason)?

[@John.mm93]

@@EtharealBTB yes

[@EtharealBTB]

@@John.mm93 That's so sad. I love my 6 Fiends, but they seem pretty bad now (for 150 points for 3 anyway).

[@DCleave9895]

Skaven dont start the game with a gnaw gole, they get given one. So first round should only have 1, not 2.

[@ronnieandrejohannessendahl4999]

Wrong

[@DCleave9895]

@ronnieandrejohannessendahl4999 sorry but your wrong. They get give 1 at the beginning of each hero phase (or beggining of turn) which means turn 1 you get given 1. No where does it say start with 1 on the field and get another 1.

[@ronnieandrejohannessendahl4999]

@@DCleave9895 Read deploy faction terrain section. Happens BEFORE deploying army.

[@phoulmouth]

I really hate this "lets talk out the last few turns" crap. Play the game!

[@SeasonofWar]

The game had effectively already been decided at that point, which is why we knew and could easily talk out the outcome. It was also Ridge's first game of the new Edition and we'd been playing over 4 hours, life & families only give us so much free time :')

[@MKDietz]

At that point actually moving the models, when you KNOW what's going to happen, doesn't matter.

[@Strade8]

When stuff is basically done wha does it change to do it or to say what it's happening?

[@16011160]

why wont girls talk to me? Is it my wargear?