AOS UL7, 8 and 10 inch Ultra Long Range Frames: Fly further, faster!

[@deroskar]

I just build your regular AOS 7 Mantis frame. It flies and looks amazing with your filters and tune. I think its even an older version of the frame now because you just continue pushing out great frames all the time! If i had all the money i would buy the UL7 8 and 10 and build some cinematic long range drones. Keep it going!

[@bulufish8208]

Thanks for bringing us a different choice for this hobby we like.

[@FeelThePunkBlast]

Looks great. Perhaps I missed it in the video, but any specs for approximate frame weights? Don't see these values on the website either.

[@Thiago_TS_BR]

Dont make sense to create an ultra light frame and dont comunicate the weigt !

[@semadragun]

I'd expect to run a 6S 10,000 mah Li-ion pack with the 10" Hey Chris the footage without the ausio was really nice at the beggining, reminds me when flying LR when you can no longer hear the quad, very zen moment!😃

[@snviper]

I fly my AOS7UL with 21700 6S2P Molicel, 8000mAh. Total flight time is between 20 and 25 minutes and total range up to 25km depending on height. I only used thin nickel strips on the selfmade packs I might go to copper over the winter to get even more efficiency. Total weight is about 1650g with GoPro12.

[@chrisB_OG]

what a beautiful frame! I want to build the UL10 in X8 configuration, and appreciate the 3d-printable legs! Peace and love from Rhode Island, USA

[@JohnIn2SonAZ]

Great news Chris, AddictiveRC just got a huge AOS motor delivery.

[@MCsCreations]

Really fantastic designs, Chris! 😃 Thanks a bunch for all the tips! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@WipeoutFPV]

I was considering getting a UL8, but a friend has recently bought one and the tolerances aren't great, a significant amount of slop and twist in the arms. The slots cut into the plates have at least a 0.5mm gap. Great design, but the manufacturing needs addressing.

[@AndrewShaidurov]

Hey, Chris! You can up-scale video to 2,5K60 or 4K30 to trick KZbin to use more efficient vp09 codec.

[@edclevel402]

Really stoked to see the continued rolling thunder of innovation from AOS!

[@cine_ghost9806]

What's the innovation ? I would say it's upselling...

[@gump1119]

I’d love to see some competition to the Flywoo Explorer LR 4

[@guatemalamini]

Nice!! Getting one for my Long range build

[@ruslan_yanchyshyn]

I have AOS UL7 and can say that beams connection in the motor end is unfortunate: the motor bracket start rotating by some degree in motor spinning area. I fixed this by filling joints with two component compound. Probably AOS 7 EVO would be better frame.

[@MikeRock25]

What a great product, I’m really interested in building the 7” x8 motors cinelifter version of it. Would I be able to mount a Sony fx30 on top? If yes, what should i consider ?

[@MrZymi]

Very nice. Next we need an AOS tiny whoop !

[@diverFPV]

I have a Chimera7 for long range and I use 18650 3000 mah Li-Ion batteries 6s3p ( 9000 mah ) and it gives me around 30Km total trip flight. I have also experimented with two of them in parallel and I got 40+ Km trip distance (20Km from home). But it was to heavy for that build . That would fit perfectly to your 10'' and it would cover much more distance.

[@X862go]

Thanks 👐 this will probably be my first non DJI drone .

[@NeilKagan]

Dang. Wish I would have know. Just got done with ul7 build. Would love to see a way to attach a cine cam to the bigger 8 and 10 inch frames since you will be able to run it as a x8. Or maybe we can get a cinelifer version. That would be killer, and I would get one asap. Thanks for your hard work, and keep innovation going.

[@_burd]

While mounting the antenna in the middle of the frame gets rid of gyro noise from the antenna, you end up blocking your antenna with the rest of the body when the quad is in forward flight, pointing away from your position. That's why we place the antenna on the rear with a rearward tilt that matches the camera angle. That way, when in forward flight, your antenna is pointed straight up and effectively positioned at the highest point in the frame, clear of any obstruction. So I don't agree that the rear is the 'worst possible option' at all. Thankfully, the SMA ports can be unscrewed and re positioned where they should be, as signal integrity matters /much/ more than frame resonance in long range flight.

[@snviper]

Agreed. I mounted my antenna in the back on my UL7 for that reason. When it was in the middle I had total signal loss sometimes on hdzero.

[@_burd]

@@snviper Thats why design and simulation alone can't make a good product. You have to actually test it in the real world.

[@Anadrol88]

@@snviper How did you make the mount ? Did you print some parts, any link please ?

[@MrCaptainnemo]

Nice update Chris.

[@gregdavidd]

Weights? Your website doesnt list the weights. At least a rough estimate would be nice.

[@gump1119]

6S2P with the new P50Bs would be quite the pack. 10,000mah for about the same weight as a 6,000mah LiPo. Rated to I think 120A? Downside is it’ll fly like a 4S pack on the way home so better have enough thrust/KV. Could even consider a 4S build to save 300g of Li-Ion battery weight.

[@mcronfpv8736]

damn i didn't know about the new version I just ordered the EVO 1.2 UL7 :o Maybe I should move my Thicc over to an UL8 frame but not sure if CNC Drone ships to france

[@ricyjo]

any plans to create a 6-in or 5-in in the same frame structure with vertical arms?

[@kerrymillar4981]

Video looks like it,s bit shaky and stuttering a bit?

[@kenw8875]

hey droners: build'n out my first FPV rig based on chris' AOS 5 V1.2 frame and iFlight Xing2 2755Kv BLDC motor. basic 5in drone to enter the field. and then.....when i obtain my FAA Part 107 license and upgrade to a larger drone for cinematgic and civil enginering inspection ops....what AOS UL size is recommended? the 8 or 10? thanks in advnace for the tech assist.

[@Thiago_TS_BR]

nice job chris

[@HuMaNiTaRiAn1]

What would you say the flight efficiency is between the 7" and 10" with your suggested motor choice and similar pitched props? Is distance and flight time increased going up to the 10" or is it the 10" more suited for carrying heavier cameras/Gear?

[@chrisbee5481]

From my experience the 10inch doesn't have a longer flight time than a 7 inch. In fact the flight time with the same battery is less. But of course you can carry a larger battery and extend the flight time. So all in all 10 inch can just carry more weight, but flight time is pretty much the same with a 50% higher all up weight. For me I was disappointed from the 10 inch and prefer my 7 and 8 inch build.

[@LifeofAccro]

@@chrisbee5481 imma about to find (finding out)...built the UL7 last year, LOVE IT, very light, trustworthy and efficient. Got impatient waiting on his UL10, and all the Helion videos didnt help haha, so i bought the Pulsar 10 from geprc. Very heavy, large foot print, still working out the kinks but so far havent been getting decent flight time... and about 2kg with a small battery =/ time will tell!

[@Anadrol88]

@@chrisbee5481 Very interesting thank you.

[@runforestrunfpv4354]

UL7 V5 on X8 flies just like a 5 inch freestyle

[@alainassaf]

Nice design, it makes me want to chase races ! The cut outs (X-Cell) around the flight controller look very similar to the ones for 5''. does that mean the vibration attenuation performance of these cut outs do not depend on the size of the quad ? Another Question is why so much carbon area is needed on the top plate ? Are there quads meant to lift sizeable cameras ? Or is the lipo disproportionately big for this class of quads ?

[@BuddsSkyCam]

With your supernova motors on 8x whats the payload?

[@FedericoLigato]

Dove posso trovare un base per il tuning per l'ul10 ,come gli altri aos?

[@Thiago_TS_BR]

What is the frame UL7 and UL8 weight (in g) ? In the specs I just found "TBC".

[@dieterweik6858]

I just bought the AOS 7in V5. Sadly the spacing of 60.5mm between the two frame - mounted video antennas is ~1mm shy of the width of 3x 21700 cells So my Lithium Ion packs won't lay between them. I'll probably run a 2P configuration with two separate packs arranged fore and aft of the antennas most of the time, but if I want to run a 6S1P pack I have to mount it on edge. Also, in the 2P configuration the forward battery only gets one strap. I guess I could enlarge the antenna mounting holes to move the antennas further apart, but that might weaken the top plate. Kind of disappointing. What is the space between the antenna mounts on this UL7 frame?

[@JohnIn2SonAZ]

Chris will iFlight be making these frame kits too?

[@JustKeepLivingFPV]

Man Chris I don't feel the same way about my medium length sma antenna as you have described here and in the past, I will go as far as a long antenna could cause adverse affects due to the fact that it is weight that is extended from the body of the quad, but where I'm having problems is the fact that the TPU is mounted to standoffs that don't have allowance for movement, that would reduce the effect of the antenna movement. The antenna is not designed to be a spring my true rc antenna is very stiff in fact.

[@JustKeepLivingFPV]

I'm going to reprint my antenna mounts on my Demibot in PLA and see if the is a difference in my blackbox. The fact that the antenna being hard mounted on the plate vs soft on the standoffs I believe is negligible.

[@carlosfuhrer]

nice work, quick question can you provide a tune for the AOS 10? thats the one I will be building

[@smika710]

Got the mountian drive tee, and it's cool :)

[@smika710]

Also don't judge my mark4 clone with 7in arms with stock beta flight

[@MTB_FPV]

Any plans to stock these in the UK?

[@nuttyDesignAndFab]

lithium ion can cells have like 2x the energy density of poly packs lol. 2P 2170's would probably handle the current just fine. make sure to use chunky Ni strips!

[@dferens]

Question: in your design, both antennas are placed in a close proximity to the battery, doesn't it make any influence on characteristics of antennas? In our tests, we observed that SWR curve was changing as you bring antenna closer to the battery.

[@icebalm]

These are cool and all, but any plans on a 3.5-4" LR that can be sub250g?

[@alberfpv]

You dont recommend crossfire for long range in your website?

[@ianrmurphy]

What make VTX antennas are those on the UL7?

[@ImperialArmour]

All the frames look like they have a lot of drag while flying forwards.

[@chrisbee5481]

Why is the motor size leap from 8 inch to 10 inch props so high? You say 2808 for 8 inch props and at least 3215 for 10 inch props. The disc area is 56 percent larger but the motor is 145 percent larger. From my personal building experience : 2806.5-2808 for 7" 2810, 2812 or 3110 for 8" 3115 and above for 10"

[@tiefflieger9712]

Prop weight doubles from 8 to 10

[@thecreator1155]

My new 9" longrange/cinelifter build run's on 8S2P 8000mAh and 6S 6000mAH, flight performance is great :D X4 3214 an 9"4.5 props, 4in1ESC 65A/100A

[@chrisbee5481]

​@tiefflieger9712 not true. A light 8" prop gemfan 8040 is 11g. A light 10" prop gemfan 1050 is 17g. That's 54% more weight not double

[@b3owu1f]

Given all the FAA laws around VLOS.. and these are super long range.. do you have to have multiple people along the flight path to fly them legally? Or are you able to get waivers to fly BVLOS?

[@valden]

I think "legal" is a loose term when flying long range 😏

[@onemanmob6756]

All nice, but... I'd imagine these double, vertical arms may be pretty draggy. Flying LR, often in pretty high winds, aero efficiency is more important than in freestyle or even racing (nothing worse than watching the battery voltage going into the red zone on your way back home, while fighting headwinds...). Also, in the name of efficiency, why not make it a pusher, with arms mounted to the upper deck?

[@gadgetrc94]

Is there room in the body for single ESCs?

[@fanatic_joka]

Will there be some BNF Versions in the near future ?

[@ChaddRainsFPV]

Awesome updates, Chris! AOS frames are still the GOAT!

[@kyble3021]

What is the AOS UL10 V5 weight?

[@JamieRenken-s1s]

Have you found this out yet?

[@sky-cats]

10" should be oriented into 8S-12S....

[@The_Compass9]

I must say that I was very dissapointed with the UL7. I'm sure it flies great, but the way it is assembled is just a pain and it is very fragile. It didnt stop me from buying the regular AOS 7 EVO frame, but it was an unpleasent experience. Chris, Im sure you aware but please make the designs better next time

[@ssbailey1981]

hold on a minute... don't the arms support the body and not the motors when in flight.

[@rolliseventeen]

no weight, no interest. what is the problem with this "no weight information thing" its called ultra light? wtf, is this a joke? . i want to know the weight and no: its kinda like depending on ya config, bro.

[@Anadrol88]

Right, that is super easy to weight !

[@GrauFPV]

And… break an overcomplicated frame on the first crash

[@snviper]

Those frames are not designed for crashing. If you crash frequently while cruising don't get it. When you crash doing long range it doesn't matter anyway if your frame breaks or not it's usually gone for good.

[@GrauFPV]

@@snviper the problem is that Chris is not any kind of reputable pilot. He designs as an engineer, and almost always an engineer over complicates functionality because it looks good on paper and rarely translates to any practical benefit. His frames are a prime example of this sentiment, and his testing of products is so extremely skewed by bias, that I personally don’t believe that this guy is trustworthy in any capacity.

[@arthurgiourdjian9071]

​@@GrauFPVI don't think you need to be a reputable pilot to design a long range frame. For the most part, frames have been like 90% the same, theres some new innovations that come out like the QAV X-Lock for example. If you're designing a freestyle, bando basher, sure it makes sense to have that experience of breaking arms and frames. I just don't see a point in your comment about breaking a frame thats not meant to ever really be broken. Just my 2 cents

[@Anadrol88]

@@GrauFPV Interesting, what frame would you recommend please for mountain surfing ?

[@GrauFPV]

@@Anadrol88 honestly, I’d build something like the 533 spec 7. It’s got a strong build, and you can run it pretty light. Tunes well, and designed by actual badass pilots who understand engineering from a practical use standpoint vs this guy who isn’t much of a pilot and designs things that are over complicated and not practical at all.

[@Fpvlawndart]

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[@rizsu82]

Did we just went back 10 years in time? The frame design looks like it's from 10 years ago when these drone mania started. It looks ugly, compared to helion for example. 😶

[@ChrisRosser]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The number of pilots switching from the Helion to the AOS UL10 due to vibration/jello issues with the Helion speaks for itself I think.

[@rizsu82]

​​@@ChrisRosserSince i commented, I watched a few videos about it and its growing on me. Coming from 5 inch freestyle quads, i started to like it. Only issue i have is, can't decide between the two versions. UL or just the beefed up one. Also the version 5 not available anywhere in the UK which is a problem for me. Planning to use it with dji O4, which isn't on the market yet, hope it fits the camera assembly. Oh and I am looking for the 7" version, the helion is pretty but they don't make it in 7"​@ChrisRosser

[@rapamune]

Pretty cool, but not for me.