Apex 2022 GRAND FINALS - Zain (Marth) Vs. aMSa (Yoshi) - SSBM Melee Tournament

[@TheRealMew2king]

Congrats to the red character for winning Apex!

[@ManuelPersona24]

Yoshi is amazing!

[@lorenzo689]

Ye

[@NVRSE500]

Hey m2k! I'm curious how you feel about the expanding meta at the moment? I feel like more characters are becoming more viable as people keep discovering more powerful Universal tech that can be used on almost any character. What do you think?

[@destinydynamites]

clever

[@patoa3481]

Can't believe Mario won a major😭

[@felixpizza]

I have the most respect for Amsa because while there was a whole community of Marth and Fox players the dude *created* competitive Yoshi. Creativity is an aspect of the game that others don’t have to play to that extent

[@AlexRoseGames]

it's crazy how amsa can make yoshi, a character who can't even jump out of shield and has no up-b recovery, look like the best character in the game. the way he's optimised parry and armour and eggs is absolutely ridiculous. and in this meta I can see it being a real problem for other people. thanks to uncle punch, everyone is so used to having such optimised punish game that they win neutral a couple times and you're dead. but amsa can just say "nope, double jump armour, my turn". but meanwhile he himself can uncle punch his combos until they're ridiculous and work on his egg throws so they hit from anywhere. his tech skill is ridiculous, he is a monster. I have felt sorry for amsa for years, thinking it was sad that he is so dope but will never be god level, but at this moment (and yes, with all the recency bias in the world), I can see amsa becoming a god of melee, and being a serious contender from rank 1 from now on. what a legend

[@tcoogz1379]

Where’ve you been? He’s ALREADY a god of Melee

[@fe0xaech997]

I am bored of you guys always praising amsa. Everyone plays godlike nowadays, you can get it after pay zain a little attention: he sdi's out of fox up air, nearly consistently zero-to-deaths people, and you guys are only aware of amsa. Dont get me wrong, amsa is my favorite player, but you are just complimenting amsa, and kind of insulting yoshi plus all the other hard working players

[@jsun1993]

No question he can be #1 soon. The gameplay speaks for itself

[@mourning_sun_]

@@fe0xaech997 obviously zain is incredible. Arguably #1. They are celebrating aMSa's win rn lol

[@thertcll]

@@fe0xaech997 I don't know why you took this so negatively. They're really just pointing out how good he's become. No need for this kind of response.

[@LexClone5]

Proof that Melee is always developing, even after 20 years

[@baileymickb324]

This game is immortal

[@juicesoapcontraptions8928]

here's hoping the actual rest of the cast gets used viably (besides the bottom tiers)

[@Dunbeezytv]

@@baileymickb324big facts. They even taking tournament video quality to another level 🤩

[@kharhazify]

aMSA has made yoshi relevant for many many years, aint new

[@geesixnine]

Games suck today

[@Ludvix]

bro I would have never thought Yoshi would win one but TWO super majors? the top 50 being only one Yoshi and one puff and one pika is just amazing showing how far u can go with any character

[@crazycoolkids00]

Time for another Yoshi top tier video.

[@user-zk5uo5io2m]

There are two pikas now in the top 50. Maybe three year end since Ralph's results in california are unreal

[@Azucar752]

Comparing Puff to pika and yoshi?! Lmao relax

[@homarsimpsom]

@@Azucar752 there was no comparison besides there being only 1 of them. Chill out.

[@Bread-kun]

@@Azucar752 The comparison being that you have characters that really only 1, maybe 2 people have taken that far to an insane degree. Nobody has come remotely close to what Amsa can do with yoshi, and it is impressive someone can take a character most see as a weaker character and come in swinging and win a super major.

[@ProDucktions0]

There is literally nobody that deserves his spot at the top than Amsa man. Dude has been committed to this character ever since he started playing and he has ascended and blown away so many expectations. His rise to the top has made 2022 one of the greatest years for Melee ever.

[@Just_Abs]

Crazy how Amsa’s breakthrough tournament was Apex and now, he’s got first at Apex

[@Presaria]

He actually won the big house against mango

[@jayjurz7170]

@@Presaria he was referring to Amsa's old breakout tournament at Apex 2014

[@rat4992]

@@jayjurz7170 I believe you mean apex 2015. He got 5th there. Did he do well at 2014 too? EDIT: okay I’m pretty sure amsa got 9th at apex 2014. Good call. He did great at both

[@Dytanious]

@@Presaria learn how to read buddy. I have dyslexia and still knew what he meant.

[@rat4992]

@@Dytanious LMAOOOO chilllll

[@voodooedits785]

20-eggs-eggs is slowly becoming a reality. If amsa wins both cups then we’re living in yoshi’s world right now. Also this set was incredible. Zain will win a major tournament from losers bracket one day. One day. And an amsa W is a huge win as always.

[@fireemblemaddict128]

eggs = 2 It's 2022 baby

[@voodooedits785]

@@fireemblemaddict128 yeah baby.

[@savaget2058]

Quickly*

[@justopinions5919]

As a melee newcomer, what does "both cups" mean?

[@voodooedits785]

@@justopinions5919 I just wanted to refer to swt and panda cup as *cups* because those are the two championships in December to end the year.

[@KolMan2000]

10:00 the shield knock back to push Zain off the platform into a down smash was crazy

[@joeschmoe4376]

Looks like he read the fastfall timing too

[@mr._otis9840]

Bro Zain even reacts to that like, "Damn I really fell for that."

[@johnkramer2144]

What’s crazy is that Apex 2015 is when I first learned who AMSA was. Now the first tournament Apex comes back and he wins it. It’s like poetry.

[@maccabanana1373]

Kings of cali set for me. I would have never thought this would happen

[@KnotchiGaming]

I think you mean Apex 2014

[@hitechnic7805]

@@KnotchiGaming Apex 2014 was his breakout, but 2015 was his first major top 8 so a lot of people didn’t learn about him until then

[@treehann]

Ah.. Apex 2015, my favorite tourney to watch. The Mango Amsa set in top 8 that year was epic. Mango barely edged amsa out game 5. And of course PPMD taking home his last championship was so bittersweet and beautiful, everyone was hugging him. It makes me feel things

[@harvstooth6917]

Absolutely incredible, Amsa is an amazing player, not just for winning, but for never giving up on red Yoshi! Just like he believes in his character, it seems the community believes that he can be number 1. I certainly do now.

[@evanpowers1537]

yeah it's really honorable that he stuck with red yoshi and never caved to playing standard green

[@enemyskill4286]

@@evanpowers1537 the world isn't ready for that yet

[@MarketUnderground]

It's makes me wanna play melee again and play with my fav character Samus

[@vectro4284]

@@MarketUndergroundMe too, Samus is also my favorite.

[@rockzyk1291]

This is it man. He's not just an underdog threat anymore who might make it to winner's semis/losers finals. We're watching the birth of aMSa the top tier competitor who has a legitimate shot at taking any tournament. Melee is SO. FUCKING. SICK.

[@warlord4964]

It's pretty poetic, the same tournament where a decade ago he became hard to ignore, 2022 he wins big!

[@mymusikrawks]

That big house win changed Amsa forever. Despite the losses this set I've NEVER seen him play this confident before.

[@emmbeesea]

Both of these players in the arms race for the #1 ranking for the 2022 year. What a crazy year it's been for this game. Zain, iBDW, Hbox, Mang0, and aMSa are all building their cases and I can't wait to see what the final month has in store. I also love to see stories come full circle. Apex 2014 and Apex 2015 were two of aMSa's biggest performances on the international stage to prove that he was a tournament threat. Fast forward to now, and he wins the tournament series that really kicked that off for him. 20EggsEggs. Melee is sick.

[@KelpyG.]

It really is. I dont have a super in depth knowledge about every little thing but enough and every set is so engaging. Ultimate can have the same but sometimes have some matchups that are horrible to watch

[@Abc-ii1he]

iBDW and Hbox don't have a credible case for #1 this year anymore. It's close between Zain, aMSa and Mango

[@jlow3777]

@@Abc-ii1he amsa would have to win another major to actually be a contender

[@voodooedits785]

Hbox and Cody don’t have arguments for 1st any,ore

[@voodooedits785]

@@jlow3777amsa needs 2 more major wins which would be the two cups in December

[@samshapira8295]

To quote the commentators at Big House- A YOSHI?!

[@sheridan5175]

Gotta love scar

[@mrm64]

JUST got back home from this. Drove 3 hours from Upstate, NY to Secaucus ,NJ to see this. Was not disappointed. I'm TIRED as hell because of how hype these matches were! (Thought HBox was gonna destroy the table after his Zain set lol). Good games from everyone and congrats to Amsa AGAIN, making history!

[@hitchhikrsguide7522]

Yo let's go Upstate

[@mrm64]

@@hitchhikrsguide7522 woooooot!

[@musicdev]

Hell yeah! Wish I could’ve seen this set irl, I’m sure that drive was 100% worth it

[@savaget2058]

Melee is just so incredible in 2022, only seriously been around since 2014 but what a rollercoaster it has been 🙌🏼

[@jman2050]

3:20 I can’t believe this is a true combo. aMSa’s mastery of Yoshi is unreal.

[@diegomo1413]

And he didn’t even look particularly stoked to have hit it. He was just like “yup, got it” *checks phone*

[@BraindeadMedic]

I'm rly happy that over 20 years after game release we have Yoshi, Picachu, Link, Fox, Falco, Marth, Jigglybuff, Shiek, Cpt Falcon, Icies, Peach sometimes even Ganon, Samus or Luigi as characters we see in top 8 tournament after tournament. That's so crazy

[@itspapaho7898]

Sakurai is smiling now that someone is finally playing Yoshi as he intended🎉

[@GabiN64]

he's more horrified by pokemon stadium transformations being disabled

[@saturnjr9136]

this is not at all what he intended

[@xenocide1307]

Amsa is definitely top 3 right now. He has just been on fire lately and super consistent.

[@plasticbudgie]

Zain, Amsa, and who ?

[@peashooter6628]

@@plasticbudgie mango

[@plasticbudgie]

@@peashooter6628 hmm maybe.

[@Choochinc]

Amsa has been absolutely on fire this year and I love it. There's nothing better than someone taking a character that everyone is convinced is garbage, and pushing them to such an absurdly high level and proving the entire community wrong. As M2K put it, Yoshi wins a major before Sheik, fix tier list.

[@urallnoobs8943]

Amsa is the embodiment of the manga/LN trope where the protagonist plays a VMMORPG and discovers a secretly OP playstyle that only he can use to its maximum potential. It's crazy to see how far he's brought this character.

[@MikeTheGamerGuy]

Yeesh

[@imtayvon]

Shield Hero?

[@eddiestilll]

i think it's official now after aMSa's wins as a solo yoshi main in 2022 melee at the off-season, the big house 10, and now apex 2022 that the year 20XX never came, and we're currently in 20EggsEggs :D

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Spoilers I had a feeling this was going to happen at another super major, Amsa taking it, proving it wasn't a one time thing. Watching him over the decade come into grinding, getting better and gaining respect while also building up the Japanese Melee community was tough. Throughout this year, he has been beating his bracket demons and over coming most obstacles. Zain consistently bested Amsa until this year where Amsa has adapted to fighting Zain. I am loving where Melee is right now and can't wait for more in the future.

[@voodooedits785]

Apex this year wasn’t a super major but it was a stacked major.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@voodooedits785 if you have all the Smash games here with side events and multiple top level players then it's a super major

[@justinm3493]

@@mandalorianhunter1 super major is determined by the level of top talent attending not the size of it

[@kisukeurahara5111]

@@voodooedits785 This event had 5 of the top 6 players. It's definitely a supermajor bruh.

[@mystraunt2705]

Give it 5 years we gonna see young link vs donkey kong grand finals. And im here for it

[@mjl167]

I've been saying aMSa has been one of the gods all along. It's so nice to see him find his confidence and his center. He will keep climbing, he's the best. My spirit is with him, I love him

[@cooolbigguy]

Amazing set, I love this era of melee with such character diversity

[@陳嘉宇-y4q]

Now we need Jmook to win a super major

[@CODYLOUIS]

I’m so happy for Amsa I could jus cry right now lol. Too many times have players with uncommon character put on a great show for viewers but just could never reach the level that Amsa has reached. Love to see it man

[@spencerying150]

wow... it's been surreal watching amsa single handedly push past this character's limit for the past 8 years, making yoshi do what we never thought was possible.

[@starfox300]

This is actually unspeakable. It's not just the technical skill but also his mind games and reads that are beyond what other top players can do. Amsa deserves this more than anyone

[@SidneyFalco666]

Such a long grind to the top! Years and years of practice. So happy for The Red Yoshi!!!

[@spencer1531]

Love this arc of Mango, Zain, and aMSa fighting it out for number 1. Would have loved to see Mango at this tournament.

[@陳嘉宇-y4q]

Mang0, Zain, aMSa, and Hbox are the big four of the modern melee

[@hoppie0389]

@@陳嘉宇-y4q what about Cody?

[@陳嘉宇-y4q]

@@hoppie0389 Just below these 4, but solid top 8

[@AL-lh2ht]

Zain, Amsa, Cody, Hbox, and mango are all in contention for number one in that order of current rankings placements. And no I won’t be taking any questions.

[@chippukumikyoku7267]

@@陳嘉宇-y4q Cody has a winning record on all the players that you listed except Mang0. He's definitely in the "big four" or big five if you wanna call it that.

[@ImRubyRose350]

The Legend of this man Its Coming finally Together...Really man...This guys is Like HungryBox..."Admirable, Consistent,Emotional and A great Guy"

[@sheridan5175]

Dawg quoted himself 😭

[@DanielJimenez-vq5gw]

I don't care about rankings, aMSa was the best player this year in my heart. His Yoshi makes me doubt everything I know about competitive video games, what a champ.

[@Masaru_kun]

been waiting 7 years for god aMSa and it was worth the wait

[@iSickle_]

the year is 20🥚🥚. everyone plays yoshi at tas levels of perfection. because of this, the winner is decided solely on the among us side event. leffen is on the mic advocating for a flutter jump limit. life is good.

[@Heartkiller999]

Saw someone in chat say “aMSa will never win another major after big house”, my my that aged like milk!

[@jaydog180]

4:34 Power-shielding the fair into double power-shielding the nair is super sick

[@freddywondercat1362]

I haven't kept up w/ Melee in a hot minute, but I already know that this set is about to be fire if it's being recommended to me in spite of that.

[@McWickyyyy]

Been waiting for this moment for like 10 years. Congrats aMSa 😩

[@Reilia_]

I dont think there can ever be a player i would root for over amsa. How can you not want this dude to win everything

[@whalenator1453]

If anybody woulda told me a Yoshi would be in grands at a major in 2022 I would laughed, now if you told me that same Yoshi would win that Major I’d say your out of your mind. But here Amsa is making Yoshi look like an immovable force. This….this is why I love Melee. It’s 21 years old and we still have Crazy shit happening in a game 2 Decades old. I love this game and can’t wait too see how the meta progresses with this absolute murderer wielding a red Yoshi. Congrats Amsa! You rock!

[@DazlMusic]

How dare you not make the thumbnail yoshi red

[@Evixyn]

This was an amazing set, it is great to see amsa push his favorite dinosaur to great heights by winning more super majors.

[@ubberJakerz]

aMSa being a Canadian resident now means he has much higher quality practice partners. He's going to continue being an absolute menace!

[@voodooedits785]

You know this amsa guy is really good at basketball. Same with yoshi

[@Nothingnowhere909]

I love how amsa is slowly becoming the hbox of his character. The only man in elite play that can play his character to that level. Love to see yoshi sitting with the “top tiers”.

[@evanpowers1537]

he''s been the hbox of yoshi for a very long time!

[@outseteddy6306]

Like Axe with Pikachu

[@etiennephilippe5077]

the difference is that there are around 3 or 4 puffs in top 50 area right now

[@firstlast-wg2on]

Even when the reign of Amsa is over, exactly like HBox I bet he’ll be one of the nastiest bracket demons for new up-and-comers.

[@ltsJoeMama]

Slowly becoming? Amsa has been THE guy for Yoshi for years. He's definitely at another level now tho.

[@BiigFigJ]

man watching amsa play is amazing. even when he slowed down he’s so methodical. the inputs for yoshi gotta be off the charts.

[@Rpodnee]

Zain was playing OUT OF HIS MIND in those last few sets! That was insane!

[@savaget2058]

MaNg0 beat aMSa in two different sets at Summit and aMSa did the same to him at Big House. It's gonna be interesting to see what aMSa can do with the remaining majors before the end of the season. Congrats!

[@Michael-hc2hp]

Mango and aMSa only played once at Summit, their record is 3-1 in aMSa's favor, aMSa's other loss at Summit was vs iBDW, who seems to be the best vs Yoshi currently

[@savaget2058]

@@Michael-hc2hp That's my bad. For some reason I thought they played twice. Everyone has been saying that Moky is the best Fox against aMSa lately. But I think in terms of top 5 player and win loss record IBDW is looking the best this year.

[@drewtweedie7408]

Unbelievably well-played set by both.

[@josesalas732]

aMSa, the first yoshi to slain a god. the one who got mang0 into throwing the controller (and almost in tears). the one who got hbox nervous as fuck. the one that can play Zain. THIS IS THE YOSHI ERA FOLKS.

[@anotherdnb]

20XX where everyone plays Yoshi and Fox players suffer with parries

[@MrAnimescrazy]

Zain is learning the matchup pretty well and can't wait to see them go at it again.

[@ollie-d]

Unreal man. It's been epic watching both of these players' careers and it's so sick to see matches like this

[@skespeon7116]

The yoshi era of melee has begun

[@hodstrat3722]

Now, I dont think it's a stretch to consider aMsa Number one of this year. He had the most outstanding progress out of all the top 10 and cannot stop this trend since then

[@traycarrot]

Rewarding progress just punishes consistency throughout a career.

[@garth4712]

@@traycarrot as we should. Strive to improve, don't rest on ur laurels

[@KevinFought]

@@XenonAgenT01 childish insult

[@voodooedits785]

@@XenonAgenT01mang0 won 3 majors. Zain has better tournament wins just as good h2h as mango and better consistency and placements for the whole year.

[@itsbrendannn7175]

zain’s up for #1 still but amsa can sweep the cups and probably steal it from him

[@MrJohnthegamerHD]

Prolly one of the most entertaining sets I've seen in a long time since Hbox's Leffen upsets. Zain and Amsa both are lightning-fast players, so these interactions are truly incredible to watch.

[@lkok931]

I never seen zain play with this level of intensity. Looking like a sith lord out there letting the anger flow through him. Love to see it, hopefully he can win something very soon. I don't hope he does, but I hope he does ^^.

[@Jacob-df5hr]

Those double parries were nuts, aMSa is cracked.

[@inumari3703]

That was really cool of aMSa for shouting out the guy who’s letting him stay at his place.

[@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot]

Top 6 in the world: one Falco, one Marth, one Yoshi, one Fox, one Jigglypuff, one Shiek. Beautiful.

[@Conqlusion19]

And soon after an ice climber and a pikachu

[@Michael-hc2hp]

Mango's been more of a Fox player recently, he only played a lot of Falco at Summit 14 because he ran the Fox gauntlet with Soonsay, Leffen, and iBDW x2, with KoDoRiN being the only non-Fox that Mango used Falco against. The one Falco should be one Fox/Falco

[@aviechan]

Been rooting for Amsa to win a tournament since I found him in 2015. This was such a lit fight from start to finish.

[@マック-f5x]

え、グランドファイナル！？　しかも優勝したああ！　アムサさんおめでとう！ 操作と対策が神がかってました！

[@skinkintreeshade3673]

20:33 the camera movement syncs with the popoff. honestly combo video material. shoutouts to the cameraman

[@bmac4]

Ive never been a huge fan of competitive melee but as a Yoshi main in my childhood who picked the character up because everyone I knew thought he was bad, seeing aMSa winning these big tourneys makes me feel so validated

[@JoshT4life]

Never seen Zain so flustered. This matchup is hard for Marth. Congrats to Amsa making Yoshi look top tier!

[@acekingdom5050]

An epic win from Zain! He 6-0d Amsa, it was so bad I think Amsa wants to retire

[@yuppienetwork1022]

Can't believe Zain taunted after that 4stock comeback

[@squeezy9011]

I've never been so jealous of Zain. He got to hug aMSa. 😭

[@Aflay1]

That was such a wholesome end. Amazing set!

[@marimbamarimba341]

Would have loved to have seen Scar in his commentating prime during this.

[@rat4992]

Literally gimr gave amsa such a big opportunity and supported him for so long. He went out on a limb and amsa never gave up and has cemented himself as one of the best to ever play the game. love both of them so much

[@porgalz1104]

Yo, Amsa is just, wow! Incredible isn't enough to describe the way this legend played tonight! Like Axe, he shows that with enough discipline & optimization, anything is possible, even for mid tiers. I believe if Amsa keeps this up, he'll be #1 for sure!

[@Jabadamazo]

This is the coolest set I've ever seen in my life.

[@CaptainEtok]

Great tournament! Nice to see a top 3 with no fox or falco, crazy how the game is still evolving all these years later

[@iMacxXuserXx485]

Awesome top 3! Marth, Puff and Yoshi. Also, all solo mains! And GF, WF, and LF were all fantastic sets going to game 5. If you told someone in 2015 that melee would look like this in 2022 they wouldn't believe you.

[@freddiesimmons1394]

This is probably the most skilled player in smash history. Facts

[@jaytahoe]

amsa winning the big house was NOT fluke, and this should cement that. He’s now won 2 majors beating some of the best players in the current meta. He’s for real!

[@hps362]

Just checked the wiki. It's pretty hilarious how now it seems like aMSa and Mang0 are gonna trade "oldest player to win a major" back and forth. Mang0 is about 6 weeks younger than aMSa, and I don't expect aMSa to keep getting wins every 6 weeks, but I still expect both of them to keep getting wins. Congratulations aMSa for being the new-school oldest man in melee!... Until Jason comes back.

[@InitialDrifterZ]

Current top 5 players in no particular order. Mango, Amsa, Zain, IBDW, Hbox

[@joelpettersson4055]

Its crazy how much zain addapted to amsa during this set. Amsa played better for sure but zain addapted far more during the match and really gave amsa a run for his money. I feel like all top players will have to start really practice on beating Yoshi so theyre prepared for the matchup and dont have to figure it out as they go like zain did here. I dont remember what tournament it was but amsa beat mango this year in another major and mango then admitted on stream that he wasnt prepared for the matchup.

[@jorgetesecum9065]

Melee is the one game where you can have your favorite and still be ok when the other competitor wins. Amsa is awesome

[@mariela9210]

Big house and now Apex. AMSA, the low tier god. HE DID IT FROM WINNERS BOTH TIMES.

[@zigorvlc]

the egg guard is so intense omfg

[@Ryusuta]

The legend has finally taken his proper place in history. Congratulations, Amsa. We knew you would do it!

[@RonDom1]

I love that amsa wins tourneys now what an awesome game we play

[@undeadmatrix4]

I got to watch this set live, it was insane. Zain made a crazy losers run but amsa just played incredible

[@Lumario23]

We are truly living in a wild era of Melee If someone told me 10 years ago a Yoshi won a major I would have laugh at them But here we are

[@supermeuhmeuh]

What a set man. What a game 🤯

[@grandadmiralthrawn66]

lloD said Yoshi was cracked back in 2018 and nobody fucking believed him... until now.

[@I_Love_Light]

I can’t believe what I’m watching. Big House 10 and Apex, Amsa is a BEAST!

[@b1llythak1ddttv27]

If zain made that comeback that woulda been insane

[@frankjoz2803]

Dude, that last stock was being played to perfection, Amsa was scared!

[@raymondlinares8307]

inZain

[@tokiko404]

What an amazing set 🥚 🗡

[@smorgborg]

2022 is the year of Yoshi

[@ray_1111]

This fight was hype af, congrats AMSA :)

[@knitest1ck]

HMW!! Never stop commentating you’re the best!!

[@JovialEclipse]

Marthcels be seething over Yoshichads

[@SophisticatedBanjo]

We're living in the best possible Melee timeline.

[@Jacob-fk6hu]

amsa is reaching TAS levels of perfection

[@-hello--panda-2215]

And Mang0 said he's top 2 after this tournament that he didn't attend. His ego stroke is too much.